Mini 506: The Siena Syndicate - Game Over!

[Peers]

You guys are the most dry humorless bunch I've ever seen. If you really want to vote for me for not understanding the jokes please go ahead.

We understand the 'jokes'. They're just not funny. Your jokes have all the humor of the corpses of Farley and Belushi being dug up after rotting in the ground all these years -- you don't want to see them and want to cause physical harm to the person displaying them for the world to see.

[originality]

I'm not defending myself, I'm serious vote for me.

[White]

What are you? A jester?

[VampanezeHunter]

I'm not defending myself, I'm serious vote for me.

Ok I will...

Vote: Originality!

Seriously those jokes aren't funny also I like what White said! It was funny!

[White]

Originality. You're at -2, i'd suggest thinking about a claim soon.

[Green Day]

Originality! What are you doing? I don't think Originality is scum, but I think he is acting very scummy. I think he's just giving up under the pressure. That is usually so scummy, that it usually results in a townie being victimised and cracked under pressure. But anyway.

FOS: Originality

Like White said, I'd suggest thinking about a claim. Even though I'm not sure you are scum. You're at -2.

[Cynic Clinic]

unvote

I was right the first time. And you guys called me a poor sport for it.

vote: originality

for not helping.

[Avinyl]

I did notice something. In 37 you posted a FoS against everyone that voted Originality excluding CC who posted 2 hours before you. You couldn't have cross posted with him so...why exclude him?

I didn't FoS everyone for voting Originality, I FoSed them for seeming suspicious. Cynic Clinic voted for Originality but wasn't suspicious, so i didn't FoS him.

HoS Originality

for acting scummy, acting as if White is confirmed scum, joking about a daykill and not giving any defence. However, i still have the bad feeling that he is innocent. I think he should claim (Posts 52, 54, 56, 58, 59, 61, 72 and 76).

FoS Cynic Clinic

for putting Originality at Lynch -1 (Post 81).

[ChronX]

Even if Orig is as town as town can be, his play hasn't been helpful in the least.

unvote
vote Originality

Yes its a hammer. At least we'll have something to talk about day 2.

[Xdaamno]

End-of-Day Votecount

originality: 7 (tyhess, White, Hadhfang, clockwork, VampanezeHunter, Cynic Clinic, ChronX)

Avinyl: 1

(Peers)

White: 1

(ChannelDelibird)

Green Day: 1

(Avinyl)

Not Voting: 2

(originality, Green Day)

Before many can react, you string up originality by the gallows. Just as he dies, however, something falls out of his pocket. I'm not quite sure what it was, but it definately proves he was a roleblocker.

originality

, pro-town roleblocker has been lynched Day 1.

It is now Night 1, with 11 left alive. Please send in all night-actions.

Player List: Hadhfang, clockwork, ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, tyhess, VampanezeHunter, Peers, White, Green Day, ChronX.

Deadline: 72 hours from this post

[Xdaamno]

The citizens of Siena are granted a good night's sleep; well, the innocents do; the mafia wake up to find one of their own dead.

Green Day

, mafioso has been killed Night 1.

It is now Day 2, with 10 left alive. Good luck.

Start-of-Day Votecount

Not Voting: 10

(Hadhfang, clockwork, ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, tyhess, VampanezeHunter, Peers, White, ChronX)

Player List: Hadhfang, clockwork, ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, tyhess, VampanezeHunter, Peers, White, ChronX.

Six (6) to lynch.

Mod note: Apologies for the late day, was without internets for a period of time.

[Peers]

.... The Mafia killed one of their own?

...

I'm confused now.

[VampanezeHunter]

...I'm confused too =/...
Was their target a role that reflects a kill?
...Maybe you are right... They killed their own...
But I believe that later one is unlikely. Still...
WTF? This game is VERY STRANGE!

[Peers]

Well, with Originality dead, we know they weren't roleblocked... or there's two roleblockers, which seems a little severe.

[Avinyl]

I think that it is more probable that the mafias target was protected and

Green Day

was killed by someone else.

Green Day

17-18: Votes Cynic Clinic, which could be distancing.
67: Attacks

Originality

.
80: Does not think

Originality

is scum, but wants a claim.

mFos Cynic Clinic

for being random voted by

Green Day

.

[clockwork]

Maybe we have a Bus Driver amongst us. They could have switched Green Day with whomever the mafia targeted.

[White]

Wow. Well, don't forget the possibility that we have a successful doc and a vig/sk.

[originality]

You weren't supposed to take me seriously but whatever, my fault. Jerks. Go town

[Peers]

Yeap, your fault. Remind me to drop from any game I see you sign up for. Now be quiet, you're dead.

Avinyl, what do you think is more likely... the person who Green Day random-voted for killed him... or the person who actually voted for Green Day killed him? (That would be you, BTW.)

And in either case... there's been several suggestions already. Green Day got killed my the Mafia as a confusion plan (not bloody likely); the Mafia got misdirected onto Green Day; the Mafia hit was stopped by a roleblocker or doctor and a third party (vig or SK) killed Green Day. In at least one of those cases (vig), we really, really don't want to out whoever killed GD; in others, it was just random fate and trying to find out who did it is wasted time; in at least one (SK) finding out who it was is going to be vital to the survival of the town.

So... where do we put our effort? Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, or somewhere else?

[White]

After rereading CC's posts i'm getting a town vibe from him.

I think we should focus on Avinyl or Chronx for the scummy hammer.

Chronx, care to explain why you hammered without a claim?

[ChronX]

A Day One claim in a game that started day has no merit in or of itself. Scum could lie and claim something unlikely (like roleblocker, or psychiatrist) or lie and claim something useful, like cop or doctor, causing a situation on day 2 where the real McCoy had to counter claim, or where the town is misled into thinking they have such a role available to them. In any case, it leads to all manner of WIFOM scenarios.

The way Orig had played to that point was awful, and in my judgement it was pro-town to spare the town all the WIFOM angst. I'm also fairly convinced that the game where he picked up the daykill tactic from, it was employed by scum, so I (mis)read it as a scum ploy here. I thought when he cited me directly as part of his "ruse" he was setting up a WIFOM argument with that.

I will offer up my own WIFOM argument that while reckless, my hammer would be foolish if I were mafia. If I pay for it by being today's lynch, a lot will be learned by anyone to smart enough to analyze votes and tactics rather than words when my alignment is revealed.

[White]

Why even offer a WIFOM argument when it's just that? WIFOM.

[ChronX]

This is exactly an example of why I voted, and you clearly DON'T get the point I was making in that paragraph.

Parsing out every last word someone says accomplishes nothing. No one except a raw noob is going to confess to being scum. ANYthing anyone says can be spun as scummy if you are seeking a reason to target that person. If I had said nothing, it would have been , see, he must be scum he's "lurking" or avoiding my question. I offer a reasonable explanation, you latch onto one phrase and try to give it legs.

Keep in mind that YOU started the bandwagon on Orig, drove it out of the random stage, and badgered the shit out of him throughout. Should we revisit your reasons and make you justify each utterance you made (17 posts on Day 1, the majority hammering on townie Orig)?

[White]

Don't try to spin this off on me. My actions are clear and it's very visible what I was doing. It was taken out of my hands by other people's votes and I wanted a claim, you prematurely hammered. Now we've lost a roleblocker which could potencially have stopped the scum from killing innocents had he chosen correctly.

Your whole last paragraph is OMGUS.

[ChronX]

My suspects based on Day 1 voting and behavior which seems intended to lead the town down garden paths:

1. Clockwork, right in the middle of the wagon, and seriously, a BUS DRIVER?
2. White led the charge against Orig (his own words post 73) and had plenty of opportunity to relieve some of the pressure and instead called for a claim. Could be scum tactic to drum up targets.
3. Vamp-H, portraying the slightly overwhelmed player who doesn't understand what is going on. Cast an important vote (L-2)
4. Avinyl, keeps throwing around suspicions for strange reasons. I don't see the tie in for CynicClinic to be suspicious because GreenDay random voted him. I would say
5. GreenDay is more suspicious for his post in which he asks for the claim from orig. As stated earlier, I don't think a gallows claim from orig was in the best interestes of the town, at all.

FoS Clockwork

will probably lead to that being my vote to start today rolling