Mini 506: The Siena Syndicate - Game Over!

[White]

If you're in any games that are around 10 pages aren't aren't mini's or Newbie's I can probably replace for you.

[clockwork]

So White... mind explaining your ChannelDelibird "bandwagon" vote? It doesn't matter as much now, but I'm curious why you did it.

VampanezeHunter, I urge you to respond the allegations piling up against you

soon

.

[Xdaamno]

Page Huit Votecount

ChannelDelibird: 3

(Cynic Clinic, ChronX, White)

VampanezeHunter: 2

(Peers, ChannelDelibird)

Not Voting: 5

(Hadhfang, clockwork, Avinyl, tyhess, VampanezeHunter)

Player List: Hadhfang, clockwork, ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, tyhess, VampanezeHunter, Peers, White, ChronX.

Six (6) to lynch.

[White]

Clock, the vote was purely for conversational purposes. Normally people will get real up in arms with an unexplained bandwagon vote. This thread is having trouble keeping post count so I figured a bandwagon might jump start it.

Hmm, I thought I was voting VH...

Unvote, Vote VampanezeHunter

Mod: You were voting CDB, but I'll count that in the next VC (Obviously)

[VampanezeHunter]

What I can't see any aligations please tell me and White, if you wanted to replace me in an Open with 5 people in. Please can you all tell me your reasons for voting me as I don't know them.

[Peers]

Maybe you should re-read the thread?

[White]

*laugh* Nice Peers.

Listen VH, I went through all your posts and did a nice pbpa on you. I'm not going to repost that. Instead i'll redirect you to the bottom of the last page about 2 days ago I posted post 168 which has the case against you.

[ChannelDelibird]

What I can't see any aligations please tell me and White, if you wanted to replace me in an Open with 5 people in. Please can you all tell me your reasons for voting me as I don't know them.

All I can say to this is: dotdotdot.

[ChronX]

unvote

I'm not sold that VH is scum, my other experiences with him is that he is just a weak player who likes the idea of mafia better than playing. However, he's not the sort of player we want around at LyLo so its probably to the town's benefit to lynch him either way. But I want to *cringe* reread before I vote him.

[Hadhfang]

What I can't see any aligations please tell me and White, if you wanted to replace me in an Open with 5 people in. Please can you all tell me your reasons for voting me as I don't know them.

All I can say to this is: dotdotdot.

Interesting observation,

Vote: Vampaneze hunter

[ChannelDelibird]

What I can't see any aligations please tell me and White, if you wanted to replace me in an Open with 5 people in. Please can you all tell me your reasons for voting me as I don't know them.

All I can say to this is: dotdotdot.

Interesting observation,

Vote: Vampaneze hunter

I'm here all week.

Nice bandwagon vote.

[tyhess]

I'd like to ask for a replacement- this has been a low priority for me and you deserve better in a game.

Mod: Thanks for notifying me before this got out of hand.

[clockwork]

What I can't see any aligations please tell me

Post #168 is the major one. #166 and #117 also have some.

Mod: You were voting CDB, but I'll count that in the next VC (Obviously)

Not to step on any toes, but he unvoted CDB and voted VH at the end of post #168.

Mod: So he did! Thanks for catching that, I'll update it in the next votecount.

Clock, the vote was purely for conversational purposes.

Hm. Okay, thanks.

[Xdaamno]

Glork replaces tyhess, effective immediately.

Mod: Cookie for the quick replacement .

[Glork]

I've read only the first few pages so far, but my first impressions are that White and Avinyl are protown.

I'm going to read through the rest of the game in just a bit.

[Peers]

Welcome, Glork!

No jokes about rereading the thread, please.

[Glork]

Ok, at least one of Cynic, Green Day, Vamp, and Clockwork are scum. The wagon on Originality is just crap. He may be a terrible player, but running him up like that does no good.

ChronX might be scum, but I'm somewhat doubting it. As odd as it may sound, I'm more suspicious of the people who set him up rather than the guy who knocked him down.

(Also, I notice that Green Day was in fact scum.)

Minor FoS: Peers and Vamp

for their reactions to GD's death. The most sensible explanations are Vigilante or Serial Killer.
Have either of you encountered any of these roles before? Your "confusion" seems feigned.

Also, extra minus points to Peers for speculating on the lack of a protown kill. Scummilicious. And even more minus points for asking where "we [should] put our effort." If you're protown, you should put

your

focus on whomever

you

believe is scum -- largely independent of what others think.
Bandwagon mentalities and groupthink speculation are both generally bad for towns. Thus, promoting/suggesting and asking about them are definite scumtells in my book.

I like ChronX's D2 posts.

A question for you, White: Given Originality's previous behavior in the thread, how much merit would you have given to a roleclaim from him at Lynch-1?

....and Peers expresses exactly that in Post 105. Plus point for him.

CDB's post 117 is pretty much the sexiest post ever made. We seem to be operating on the same wavelength, which is a good thing.

ChronX's Post 125 seems somewhat propagandic (like his "translation" of Clockwork's ContributeOrDie post -- I've always seen it as a valid pressure threat), but I think he makes some good points as well.

Okay, I more or less skimmed Pages 6-8 because I'm ADD like that. General Feelings:
--CDB is still town
--Hadfang's bandwagon vote looks bad
--I am less confident in a VampHunt lynch now because of two things: Bad wagon on him and ChronX's observation
--ChronX is still town
--White appears to be going after people with gusto, but his wagony attitude is a little much. If he's scum, he's probably an SK who seems more intent on making lynches than lynching scumbags
--Wavering on both Clockwork and CynClin. I could go either way on them right now.
--Avinyl still hasn't done anything that stands out as scummy to me; leaning protown
--Peers is still slightly scumbaggish for his earlier behavior, though he seems to have shaped up somewhat

Man, that's a lot of noncomittal statements. Go me!



No vote yet. I want to look over the thread some more later on.

[ChannelDelibird]

Glork is here! Hurrah!

[Glork]

Eh, I changed my mind.

Vote: Hadhfang

, whose contributions have been minimal and whose recent vote looks quite sketchy.

[Xdaamno]

Page 8 Votecount (Updated)

VampanezeHunter: 4

(Peers, ChannelDelibird, White, Hadhfang)

ChannelDelibird: 1

(Cynic Clinic)

Hadhfang: 1

(Glrok)

Not Voting: 4

(clockwork, Avinyl, VampanezeHunter, ChronX)

Player List: Hadhfang, clockwork, ChannelDelibird, Cynic Clinic, Avinyl, Glrok, VampanezeHunter, Peers, White, ChronX.

Six (6) to lynch.

[Peers]

Unvote

While I still don't like VH's "I don't like these three because they lurk" post... yeah, it's turning into a bandwagon, and I'd rather have him lynched for a good reason than bandwagoned.

But I not sold on Hadhfang. Why vote for him? A sketchy bandwagon join and lack of activity? That's not much to go on...

Minor FoS: Peers and Vamp

for their reactions to GD's death. The most sensible explanations are Vigilante or Serial Killer.
Have either of you encountered any of these roles before? Your "confusion" seems feigned.

Yes, I have encountered those roles before, but only in large (20+) person games. If one is in this game, it'll be my first small game with one of those roles -- although this is my first non-C9 'small game'. Someone said that 12-person games then to be three scum and an SK, so I'm more willing to believe there's on here... which, on the plus side, means the scum'll be looking for him too.

[VampanezeHunter]

OK I am VERY Sorry for lurking I promise you tomorrow i will post an in depth anlysis. PLease just let me have one more day to get my defense together. I promise! I have swimming tonight so I can't but tomorrow it will be Friday for me so YAY! Also yea
@Peers-My "I don't like because they lurk" was a quick list. I will have a better one soon!

[Peers]

So, it'll be... 24-48 hours before you post again, you'll say you need to re-read the thread again, and not give us an FoS... but you'll promise you will next time?

... someone remind me why I unvoted?

[White]

Glork, i've got some words for you. Remind me endgame ok?

Otherwise your analysis seems nice and good.

In answer to your question, no. I would have given little to no pause and would've wanted him lynched anyway. I would've likely come up with some legalistic excuse and doubted the probability of an rb in a 12p and probably would've pushed all the harder on him. Due to this wagon and another wagon I was involved in where we lynched the doc i've decided to give careful thought to the likelihood of someone actually being what they claim to be.

Glork, you didn't really mantion Hadf in your analysis. Are you going after him for lurking?

[Glork]

Glork, i've got some words for you. Remind me endgame ok?

Otherwise your analysis seems nice and good.

Er, okay?

In answer to your question, no. I would have given little to no pause and would've wanted him lynched anyway. I would've likely come up with some legalistic excuse and doubted the probability of an rb in a 12p and probably would've pushed all the harder on him. Due to this wagon and another wagon I was involved in where we lynched the doc i've decided to give careful thought to the likelihood of someone actually being what they claim to be.

So what exactly is the point in your harping on ChronX for not allowing the chance for a claim?
What if he had allowed the claim and Orig claimed Doc, for example? Or Mason?

Glork, you didn't really mantion Hadf in your analysis. Are you going after him for lurking?

I believe I stated that he hasn't contributed much, and that what little he has (such as his wagon vote on Vamp) has been uninspiring. Combination of two things, really.