STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1723 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:23 am

Guys, help me out here. I am trying to jump in the game quite unsuccessfully.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1725 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:31 am

This game has a lot of complex mechanics. If someone could just give me their summary of them all.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1727 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:38 am

Okay thnks

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1732 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:23 pm

Okay, I got further clarification from the mod on my role. This is paraphrased, but on a factional scale, I will eliminate all role abilities with a shot limit and will end the alliance for everybody. The thing I am still confused on is what faction means. Everyone on my team, or everyone in my alliance? I'll PM him again.

Oh, and I'm also not denying my role looks scummy, that is what I was thinking after I had begun to understand it. I guess it is a role that appears anti town, but has the potential to be strategic, like if I wanted to stop all scum actions.

Its full title is 'Self Inviting Demotivator'

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1734 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:27 pm

Varsoon said everyone on my faction. I don't know if that means everyone on my team or everyone in my alliance.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1767 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:26 pm

I swear to the Lord Almighty that I will blow up all your threads and power roles if I get to L-1. Try me bitches!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1772 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:05 pm

I'll take the risk. I really don't like how Bins claimed this role when it could get me mislynched. Right now, intimidation is the only tool I have to stay alive. Now I could just be bluffing, but then I might establish a reputation as a bluffer, so you tell me.

Contrary to what Titus blvs, an anti-town role is not necessarily a scum role.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1776 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:34 pm

I just nuk'd my alliance, and I can't justify why now, but I promise you'll be thanking me by the end of the game. Also, Tunnels is conf. scum

VOTE: Tunnels

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1780 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:40 pm

I told you there were repercussions to threatening me. Did I ever once get an apology?

Anyways, I had my reasons.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1781 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:41 pm

Even if the nuke didn't have the intended effect, I'm still happy I did it. So worth it to see wguerts rage.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:44 pm

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:45 pm

Relax Wguerts. Contrary to what the elitists in charge of this site want you to believe, this is still just a game.

I'm laughing my ass off, and to top it off I feel like I just did us all a great service. Cheers!

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:58 pm

Just a personal request before I go. Can you guys have Cerberus hammer?

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:11 pm

I can do that or I can explain my numerous reasons for nuking the thread. I will do neither of those things though, because you just threatened me. Somebody other than you better ask.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:15 pm

BTW, I'm not afraid of being lynched, particularly in this game. Yet I still don't want you thinking I am being a troll, because that is not why I did it.

Right now I am harmless, but I'll get another pwr during the climax according to my role PM, which may be useful. I can't really know for sure.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:30 pm

Yes, he's a dayvig mass commuter with the abillity to recruit two players.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1808 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:05 am

Claiming characters doesn't do any good, because all the mods here hand out fake claims. Wguerts can't shoot me because I vaporized his role. I also made a very strategic move which I still believe was a good one. As I said, I wasn't doing it to troll.

Titus, I am not a supersaint, I don't know where you got that idea.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1809 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:06 am

In case you all decide to character claim though, I am Kevin.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1810 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:22 am

*Sigh*, Varsoon never finalized my action so I could withdraw it, but then I would be killing myself because I believe Wguerts had sent in his vig. I'll do it anyways, just because I was being a dick for not asking you guys before making this important judgement call.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1811 (isolation #19) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:24 am

Okay, I edited the message, so by my account, Varsoon can never actually verify that I called in the nuke, therefore he cannot destroy the rave alliance. Fuck, I feel bad about this one.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1812 (isolation #20) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:25 am

Still laughed my ass off at this whole situation, but guilt tends to settle in once the lmao'ing dies down.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1816 (isolation #21) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:33 am

Well I am not as sure now since that outburst seemed pretty legit. I was pretty confident in my read on Wguerts, and the fusion/alliance system heavily indicates that at least two scum will be together. Wguert's was justifying keeping me around, and I'm like, WTF, if I was in Wguerts shoes not even I would keep me around. I considered it him trying to keep me around as an anti-utility role.

There were a couple of other things, and I pondered upon the idea for awhile before calling in the nuke. I read the thread and saw that the only factor shot ability claimed was the vig, so I thought in truthfullness I would only be taking Wguert's ability to dayvig away.

I didn't want to express this plan in the thread, because I was paranoid that Wguerts would try to reactionary vig me if I started being vocal about all this.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1818 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:34 am

No, I edited the message that sent in the nuke, although it means that Wguert's wasted his dayvig on me, so I should be dead by the time varsoon comes on.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1820 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:35 am

I still don't think it was a bad idea. Not until someone here said one of the people in the PT was an x shot doctor, and then I was like "oh shit, I fucked up bad!"

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1823 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:38 am

I DID use my power, but varsoon was offline so I edited the PM so it now says something different. This wasn't a reaction test. Calling in the nuke meant I was going to be shot by wguerts, and now that I retracted my power, I AM going to be shot by wguerts.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1825 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:39 am

Dude, it was not a fucking joke. I thought I was vaporizing two scum powers, and I still think that was what would of happened had you not all pressured me.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1828 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:42 am

That's bcus you guys are funny as shit in rage mode. It made my day, I'll say that.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1829 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:42 am

That's bcus you guys are funny as shit in rage mode. It made my day, I'll say that.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1830 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:42 am

That's bcus you guys are funny as shit in rage mode. It made my day, I'll say that.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1833 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:43 am

^WTF?!

@Ricastle - Eh, he wasn't actually conf. scum, but he was a scum read. I'm a little pissed bcus I think I just got shot by scum. Anyways, I'm dead now, so my commitments are finished to this game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1834 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:45 am

Not trolling, just making a bad situation into a good one. I feel like you guys will only accept me if I beat myself up over this and degrade myself, which I am not going to do. I think this post is important though for ppl trying to understand my motivations.

Well I am not as sure now since that outburst seemed pretty legit. I was pretty confident in my read on Wguerts, and the fusion/alliance system heavily indicates that at least two scum will be together. Wguert's was justifying keeping me around, and I'm like, WTF, if I was in Wguerts shoes not even I would keep me around. I considered it him trying to keep me around as an anti-utility role.

There were a couple of other things, and I pondered upon the idea for awhile before calling in the nuke. I read the thread and saw that the only factor shot ability claimed was the vig, so I thought in truthfullness I would only be taking Wguert's ability to dayvig away.

I didn't want to express this plan in the thread, because I was paranoid that Wguerts would try to reactionary vig me if I started being vocal about all this.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1836 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:47 am

Like, in honesty, all I really did was ATTEMPT to remove someone's dayvig and possibly a hidden scum pr. Or so I thought.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #1837 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:50 am

@Ricastle - One of the other reasons I didn't mention was that it would of given me the ability to enter a new alliance during the next climax

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:14 am

I do think Wguerts sent in the vig at one point. We'll have to wait and see.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:17 am

If you think Frogger is scum then at least explain why

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:09 am

TunnelWarriors lied about the dayvig before I factored into play. He was already in a mode of discussing how he was going to use his dayvig before I even started talking in that thread. The fact that he lied made absolutely no sense. I consider that way worse than me attempting to end the Rave Alliance based on a suspicion he was scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:15 am

@TSO Because I am pissed off, that's why. He said he was going to use his commuter ability tonight, but now we find out that his role PM says he can only use it during the climax. Seriously ppl, read your role PM.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:16 am

No, lying to town is never a logical thought process unless you have a powerful role

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:24 am

I guess we'll just have to disagree then. Though, to be fair, i really didn't expect Mr. "lol rage harder at my terrible play" to judge actions based on the logic behind them.

Me and ricastle have a lot in common in this game. We both made unpopular plays because we brainwashed ourselves into believing that asshole Wguerts was scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:25 am

Had wguerts not lied about having a dayvig I would of never justified using my nuke.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:28 am

Book of Constantine (215:118) : Thou shalt not lie as town

It's in the bible m8

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:36 am

First of all, my power nvr got used, so let's not go there. I couldn't really talk with anyone on this thread about my decision making policy because I thought Wguerts would of lynched me in reaction.

Your just wrong on justifying Wguerts lie though. He never scum readed me, yet perpetrated a fake role to contain a problem that was at the time non-existent, and in the end all it did was encourage me to try disabling his 'fake' powers, while creating an aura of controversy around him that led to his inevitable dayvig by Ricastle.

The good book says not to lie as town, and here we have a perfect example of someone lying as town getting poetic justice.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:45 am

I understand his reasoning, it still isn't right though. The

primary

reason both me and ricastle attempted to use our powers against Wguerts is because he said he was a dayvig. If he had never claimed dayvig, I guarantee he would be alive right now, and none of that controversy about me attempting to dissolve Rave would of ever taken place.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:46 am

Anyways, I am making a post in the PT that you might find important

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:49 am

Point taken

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:03 pm

@Frogger I'm not misrepresenting anything. Making up a role you don't have is bad town policy, and the actual justifications for doing so are rarely good. I do accept that I used my power prematurely, but if anything I feel like Wguerts sealed his own fate here.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:15 pm

Unproven logic was what it was. Wguerts would not of been dayvigged had he not claimed a vig himself. Therefore him claiming got him killed, and I consider that neither logical or pro-town.

Why am I taking this so seriously you might ask? I really hate when town lies, there just isn't an excuse for it. Even worse when people try to defend the act instead of rightfully siding against the liar.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2114 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:46 pm

Can you guys all get along? Sheesh, there is so much attacking in this game among players.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2122 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:13 pm

vote: niccage

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2191 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:16 pm

Replace in, paraphrase your flavor and quote in your role PM.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2227 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:37 pm

For the last time, my role isn't a vannilalizer. It only removes x shot abilities. After tonight it will most likely be powerless.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2228 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:45 pm

@Fuzzy - Do I have to remind you that I didn't get Wguerts vig'd? He did that to himself by fakeclaiming.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2231 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:30 pm

You have yet to explain why you think nuking your PT was a good idea

Also if your role is not a vanilizar what is it???

This is how I know you have been skimming.

why was nuking a vig a good town move especially after they flipped town

Derp, I can't nuke a townie if said townie is already dead. I did it before he was vig'd, when I thought he was scum.

u still have not given a good reason for Voting Nic.... you have not have not mad any attempt make a push on NC who you are voting for or explain why you have not made a push for him

Others had made cases on my behalf. In fact, there cases are what convinced me to change my votes around. It happens, and it isn't a direct indication a player is either scum or town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2232 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:32 pm

Fuzzy = Furry

Furry = Gross

Gross = Bad

Fuzzylogic = Badlogic

Badlogic = Scumlogic

Care to explain that, scum!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2233 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:34 pm

Btw, despite all the stupid things I've already said about this statement

why was nuking a vig a good town move especially after they flipped town

He wasn't actually a vig. Ricastle figured it out and that is why he is dead.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2264 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:25 pm

I thought Chiefs and Chieftains were the same thing?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2266 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:36 pm

Waw?

chieftain. early 14c., cheftayne "ruler, chief, head" of something, from Anglo-French chiefteyn, Old French chevetain "captain, chief, leader," from Late Latin capitaneus "commander," from Latin capitis, genitive of caput "head" (see capitulum).

cheif. a leader or ruler of a people or clan

thesaurus. cheaftain. synonyms - cheif, ect.

Why are you lying, Scum! Okay guys, we caught Titus red handed. Who's in for a lynch?

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:21 am

5 bucks the new guy votes St Constantine

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2390 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:58 am

I don't get it. Town can be all over the place too.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2425 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:31 pm

The replace in wagon seems legit to me. This is about the fourth time I've considered moving wagons from niccage to replace in. What is he at right now?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2428 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:42 pm

Don't use mod psychology

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2457 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:51 pm

You shouldn't of pushed me
VOTE: Replace In

Cheers!

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2508 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:41 pm

Mastin2, you made two very passionate posts on how one should NEVER hero-vig, and here you are telling ricastle to hero-vig.

Do one thing, say another, know what I mean?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2515 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:24 am

Froggers probably town. I ain't as confident in Replace In and MS, but MS always looks scum to me.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2516 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:26 am

For the second last time, I am not a vannilafier. I am a self-inviting demotivator.

As in I invite myself into any alliance I want, and have the potential to wreck the alliance and any one shot abilities.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2539 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:37 am

VOTE: CoolDog

OK.

Titus?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2540 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:45 am

I am always suspicious of wallposts, and I mean the really long ones like Cooldog had. At the same time saying something that is false doesn't cause a scum read in my gut, because obviously Cooldog misread a post in the game that led him to believe the things he were saying are correct.

Cooldog probably isn't scum, I would focus on replace in.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2543 (isolation #67) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:12 am

Yeah, that's where I'm at as well, I cannot know for sure whether he just isn't paying attention.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2644 (isolation #68) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:40 pm

it looks like the Hermit wagon is filled with my scumreads.

Let's join the townreads wagon

Then vote your scum reads, dipshit

That's a bunch of crap by Replace In. He was the last one on the Hermit wagon of the four that were on the wagon at the time he just switched to Cool. So he voluntarily joined his "scum reads" on the wagon.

^

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #2645 (isolation #69) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:42 pm

Replace In is scummy. Titus's play is off.

Titus, are you married?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3344 (isolation #70) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:40 pm

Damn, you guys are crazy! Don't prod me every 24 hours on this site when we have 2 week posting times.

@Xtoxm - Suprised you want to ally with me knowing my power

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3345 (isolation #71) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:41 pm

I think fuzzy is scum too, but am not super confident.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3350 (isolation #72) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:50 pm

Maxwell makes sense in his wall post on page 132. I am pretty in tune with him right now, because we have been thinking a lot along the same lines.

Right now I feel there is scum between Xtom and Cooldog.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3351 (isolation #73) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:50 pm

^and Fuzzy

VOTE: Fuzzylogic

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3352 (isolation #74) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:08 pm

Fuzzy, what was your flavor again? I get the feeling you are lying about your role, and I was suspicious when you first tunneled me bcus the arguments sounded so fake.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:06 am

Everything is gut in this game for me m8, except when roles can make an argument for me.

Wouldn't a pizza delivery role better suit this guy? http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Kofi

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:53 pm

I guess it is possible for Fuzzy and Maxwell to both be scum

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:55 pm

I feel better about a fuzzy lynch though. If there was any truth to him being a motivator, that lynch should take priority.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3520 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:29 pm

It depends on whether the moderator allows the motivator to double the night kill. In that case it is extremely powerful.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3534 (isolation #79) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:29 am

I'd ask what changed besides the inevitableness of maxwells position that made you take the jump in your read on him between your last string of posts until now.

But you'd probably just say 'gut' again..

Gut?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3535 (isolation #80) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:32 am

You are scummy, fuzzy.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:13 pm

It is foolish to leave Fuzzy alive. He is scum. Motivating a townie wont change the fact, and for all we know, the people volunteering to be motivated could be scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3599 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:25 pm

Seriously?

Anyone

could

be scum, therefore that is a risk we run with

everyone

who has been put up to be motivated by Fuzzy

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3604 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:30 pm

Thanks Xtoxm, that pretty much sums up what I was trying to say.

I have heard several plans on how to use Fuzzy's role tonight. The use of his motivate power does not clear him, and I do not understand why any of you are acting as if it will.

Maxwell is a mislynch. Fuzzy is a lot more likely to be scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3605 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:32 pm

Or we can just screw the Maxwell vs Fuzzy debate for today and lynch cooldog, it is up to you guys

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3622 (isolation #85) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:38 am

Maxwell is a mislynch

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3649 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:32 pm

I agree with Trench Warfare.

Fuzzy, Cooldog, Mastina, and Xtoxm are all people I am comfortable lynching.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3650 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:33 pm

In post 3648, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I don't mind your vote on me X. I miseed two scum which is bad. To be fair if I was scum I would of voted Max to earn town cred, My play is sloppy which points to ne being town. I understand your vote but you are wrong and I am going to flip town

This is a scum tell btw

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3666 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:58 pm

Night Action Analysis

Fuzzy motivated Sonic as we can clearly see
There were two night kills, unless Niccage treestumped himself, which seems unlikely.

If we assume there are two scum left, and scum directly targeted Niccage, then we can also make the assumption that Fuzzy is town. Also it doesn't make sense for the scumteam to target Niccage with Fuzzy because Niccage was defending Fuzzy if I remember correctly

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3667 (isolation #89) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:59 pm

So the story of how Niccage became a treestump needs to be outted

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:09 am

In post 3500, Varsoon wrote:
"I'm the warp master!"

-Steven,
Island Adventure

"That's nice, Steven."

-Sadie,
Island Adventure

VOTECOUNT 4.04

thefuzzylogic99 (4):
St Constantine the Hermit, grapes, Trench Warfare, Sonic X

MaxwellPuckett (3):
grapes, Xtoxm, NicCage

CooLDoG (2):
MaxwellPuckett, farside22

mastin2 (1):
Thefuzzylogic99

Not Voting (4):
vezokpiraka, CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, Mastin2

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2015-08-21 15:00:00)

thefuzzylogic99 is on V/LA until 8/15
MaxwellPuckett is V/LA

In post 3576, Varsoon wrote:
"See those holes? Their shape and pattern is repeated over and over. Some might say it's a coincidence. I say there's something... more."

-Ronaldo,
Keep Beach City Weird

"Like what? A
double
coincidence?"

-Steven,
Keep Beach City Weird

VOTECOUNT 4.05

MaxwellPuckett (4):
grapes, Xtoxm, NicCage, farside22

thefuzzylogic99 (3):
St Constantine the Hermit, Trench Warfare, Sonic X

CooLDoG (1):
MaxwellPuckett

mastin2 (1):
Thefuzzylogic99

Vezokpiraka (1):
grapes

Not Voting (4):
vezokpiraka, CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, Mastin2

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2015-08-21 15:00:00)

thefuzzylogic99 is on V/LA until 8/15
MaxwellPuckett is V/LA

In post 3625, Varsoon wrote:
"Oh, Steven. Humans just lead short, boring, insignificant lives, so they make up stories to feel like they're a part of something bigger. They want to blame all the world's problems on some single enemy they can fight, instead of a complex network of interrelated forces beyond anyone's control."

-Pearl,
Keep Beach City Weird

VOTECOUNT 4.06: LYNCH

MaxwellPuckett (
LYNCH
):
grapes, Xtoxm, NicCage, farside22, Sonic X, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka

thefuzzylogic99 (2):
St Constantine the Hermit, Trench Warfare

CooLDoG (1):
MaxwellPuckett

mastin2 (1):
Thefuzzylogic99

Vezokpiraka (1):
grapes

Not Voting (4):
vezokpiraka, CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, Mastin2

With 13 Alive, it took 7 to Lynch.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:11 am

I think TSO was right. Both Maxwell and Fuzzy were scum.

VOTE: Fuzzylogic

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:18 am

We know that Niccage and RR are confirmed town now. Our lynch pool is pretty big still.

- Vezok
- Fuzzy
- Trench Warfare
- Cooldog
- Mastin2

I am also in there, but I know I am town. Everyone else not in that list isn't worth seriously considering right now.

Did you guys notice that Mastin2 pushed Maxwell but never voted him?

UNVOTE: Fuzzy

I need to think about this some more

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:20 am

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:23 am

I think we should lynch between Trench Warfare, Cooldog, and Fuzzy today. Maybe Xtoxm, who could be lurking his way to victory. The guy doesn't say enough to get an effective read on him though.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3714 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:22 am

VOTE: Fuzzylogic

I am cleared if NC was targeted by scum... I sent Sonic a piece of pizza. Since players can only perform one action per night. That's if NC was killed by scum and not by a random vig

I think we are at point where everyone seems to think you are to scummy to actually be scum. Was that your intention?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3715 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:25 am

I want to massclaim now.Flavor and role.

For some wierd reason MS meta is against role claiming, but that has always been the best way to catch scum, and I feel as if the lynch pool is just small enough where we can do that.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3716 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:29 am

Also Xtoxm and Cooldog are in the lynch pool, and it would be great if one of their role claims could help narrow down the lynch pool.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #3841 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:43 pm

I'm not. Mastina may have scum read Maxwell, but she didn't vote him. Scum buddies often do this to each other to appear town.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:05 pm

Did you notice that I claimed to be a fucking. voteless. townie?

Apologies?

There isn't more to your role though? We already have one treestump this game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:48 pm

Besides attempting to be objectively skeptical, I am pretty sure Fuzzy is scum and that is the route I want to take today. Sometimes he makes me wonder though, but I am pretty sure this is the right path to take.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:49 pm

Fuzzy, Cooldog, and Xtoxm are the reachable lynches for today.

If I understand this right, and it wouldn't surpise me if I didn't, but Xtoxm claimed rolecop and Titus is upset because that has already been claiming twice?

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:23 am

Everyone, please roleclaim and share your action history. This may help us narrow the lynch pool, and usually there is always clues in the actions by day five.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:08 pm

This is in the best interests of town, whether this is accepted or not. It is typical to massclaim by the third day, but not on MS. The solution to the problems this game has presented, are found within the clues that emerge during the night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:22 pm

There were two night kills and Fuzzy is a motivator. That is what makes sense to me right now.

No townie has claimed to have information on why two people were killed last night. We need to continue claiming our roles and night actions, otherwise we will be in the dark here.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:25 pm

In case ppl forget too, I am Kevin. Maxwell guessed the night I allied with him, that the thread change to "rave" mod-confirmed my flavor as Kevin.

Therefore I am mod-confirmed to be Kevin, which is evident by anyone who I choose to ally with in the night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:33 pm

Yeah, the fact that the PT turns to "Rave" and my ability is to "crash the party," I am hoping that will be considered enough evidence that my real flavor is Kevin and I will be out of the lynchpool for today.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:39 pm

*Considering that the antagonists are all obviously apart of the Crystal Diamond Authority

I agree with Niccage that flavor claims are a good idea right now. Fuzzy's claim confuses me. He is both a motivator and a pizza vendor, yet he claims cool kids. My theory I brought up earlier was that the pizza vendor would be the actual pizza guy, Kofi, who appears in about five episodes of Steven Universe, more episodes than several of the already claimed characters (plus he is pretty unique and creatively written)

My suspicion is that Fuzzy fakeclaimed, and two of the options Varsoon provided were Kofi and The Cool Kids.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:47 pm

^This is fake

We haven't even had a back and forth discussion, in which you would then be justified being frustrated and calling me a wall.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:51 pm

Fuzzy, do your alliance PT's have a special name?

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:57 pm

No need, I believe you

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:03 pm

TBH I forgot what Sonic claimed

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:09 pm

@Fuzzy

Because you have a universal tendency to post before you think of the consequences.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:10 pm

If you are town, don't even bother saying you lied

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:47 pm

Wow! Drixx is a master for pointing that out! With the way Titus/TSO and Sonic were playing, Drixx had a stroke of luck catching that!

VOTE: TunnelWariors

I wish I could of caught some scum myself, but the least I can do is put my vote where it belongs.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:50 pm

If there was a book on how to play scum, TSO and Titus would write it. This is assuming RR is right of course.

Titus played some major wifom about one of the rolecops being scum, which made me oblivious to the fact that Titus might be the scum rolecop all along.

One thing though. Why did she tunnel me back in the alliance with RR after I threatened to demotivate?

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:51 pm

We won! We won!

Three cheers for Cerberus and Drixx!!!

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:57 pm

Credit where Credit is due then.

Drixx, you are 1/100th of the man Cerberus ever was. Be ashamed!

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Also yeah, I meant VOTE: TrenchWarfare

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:59 pm

In post 3921, T S O wrote:would you say if I told you that we were mod confirmed to be Steven Universe?

Is this sarcasm? I don't get it...

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:04 pm

Well the hole in RR's case is if Tunnel Warriors role copped Sonic

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:09 pm

@Fuzzy

He is probably being patient. Learn from his, as he may of just won us the game.

@Xtoxm

If that is true, then TW is going to have a hard time explaining this to us in a way that will make sense.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:11 pm

@Drixx

Hey m8, I was just kidding anyhow. You delivered the case quite professionally, and resisted the temptation to straight out tunnel Titus. Often players make really good cases delivered really poorly.

St Constantine the Hermit · Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:06 pm

Sonic thinks TW is scum. Everyone else seems to think TW is scum. There has yet to be a reasonable explanation for a town TW.

Therefore we should lynch TW and stop worrying about Sonic.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:50 am

What is this shit?! Stop it!

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:14 am

Wouldn't it be funny if I claimed scum and still won?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:03 pm

I didn't do anything last night. I wont do anything tonight either.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:32 pm

It makes sense for Yellow Diamond to have a gladiator. Let's do this all cinematic and such.

Yellow Diamond (Sonic) vs Steven Universe (RR), let's do it.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 pm

Well one thing is that your claim sucked

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:08 pm

Yes, gladiate me! Do it!

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:08 pm

I dare you buddy! Come at me and prepare to be whipped!

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:02 am

Sonic X, gladiate your top scum read and then we'll talk

St Constantine the Hermit · Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:35 am

Cop, Vendor, and Motivator?

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:51 pm

You cannot prod a treestump

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:51 pm

That would be illogical!

And who would want to replace in for a tree stump anyways?

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:54 pm

Die scum

VOTE: Metal Sonic

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:55 pm

The lynch pool right now is him and fuzzylogic, so I feel pretty good about our chances.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:05 am

Actually reviewing the vote counts, scum fuzzy makes more sense than ever. His lack of cross voting on Titus and Maxwell for example.

Just a reminder that the lynchpool is xtoxm, mastin2, fuzzy, and me.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:07 am

Well, when I think about it, scum Xtoxm makes ever more sense than scum fuzzy.

St Constantine the Hermit · Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:07 am

VOTE: xtoxm

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:12 pm

That makes this easy

VOTE: Xtoxm

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:13 pm

UNVOTE: xtoxm

Xtoxm can easily end the day by voting Grapes. You need to unvote too.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:31 pm

I wasn't aware you had to pick up prods. I did acknowledge it though.

Really though, keep dramatic

bolded

messages to the mod in your outbox. All you are doing is making me want to get defensive, so if you have something to say to the mod, only say it to the mod.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:33 pm

I am a bit uninformed on the site wide activity policy, so any rules about prods need to be explained to me, because I wouldn't understand them otherwise.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:34 pm

Anyways, I am worried that Grapes could be scum. I just am not as worried about him as Xtoxm.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:39 pm

@Cerberus

Not sure how you have more knowledge of Varsoon's messages to me.
I think I contacted him 8 hours or so after the final prod with my desired night actions, so I am almost certain that I am still in this game.

Out of common courtesy though, you honestly need to keep complaints about specific players private. Nothing I do justifies making "myself" into a public issue.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:41 pm

Xtoxm has been a scumread of mine the whole game. His association with Titus made me consider lynching him a lot after her flip.
He also was one slippery bastard who avoided death more times than can count. I saw fuzzy as a counterwagon to him twice.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:54 pm

I'm not mad. Just a bit frustrated at the number of times I get disrespected on this site.
Not sure what I did to deserve this, but I try to treat others with the same consideration and regard, as I would expect for myself IRL

Believe me too, if I were intentionally trolling, this is not how I would go about it. I really think Xtoxm is scum!

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:02 pm

@Drizzx

The set-up would not be broken by having your identity outed. Anaylzing scum strategy is also a dead end for me when it comes to deciding lynches.

I think it is pretty clear that by Xtoxm's posts, he is more likely to be scum.
Of course, he could be town and grapes could be scum, but I think it was you who said we should make decisions based on what is likely, and not what is unlikely.

If grapes was scum, the best argument is his hammer of fuzzy, but I don't buy into that being a contradiction. At worst it was staged, since there was obvious buildup.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:03 pm

I don't want to keep discussing my behavior. I have some concerns about a number of players in this game, but I was pretty adamant that other human beings should not be made into "public issues" in a game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:04 pm

I wish pisskop were here.

Drama Sniper 2.0

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:29 pm

@Cerb

Given the circumstances, the case on Grapes is relatively strong, just a little less so than xtoxm (for me personally). That is why this lylo is hard, because I am left with two scum reads, opposed to the 0-1 scumreads I usually have going into lylo.
If you can get Mastin2 in on the lynch, I would happily join.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:30 pm

Personally I was suspecting for myself to recieve more attention than both Grapes anhd Xtoxm coming into lylo.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:38 pm

Okay, let's see where this goes

VOTE: Grapes

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:42 pm

If xtoxm is third party, the day could actually end upon a mislynch, and with a subsequent nightkill, town would lose.

If that isn't the case, then I really do not have any objection to lynching Grapes actually.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:03 pm

I am really close to confirmed town. Mastin2 explains why in her ISO, and their are a couple of other reasons.

Seriously considering scum mastin2 now.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:03 pm

*there

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:05 pm

Think about it Cerberus. Why are you still alive all this time? Why would scum xtoxm not leap on the chance to vote for me in mylo?

Mastin2 is the final scum. Probably a godfather.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:05 pm

VOTE: Mastin2

Still can't ease my suspicions about Xtoxm, but Mastin2 is starting to make a lot more sense to me.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:22 pm

We have no intention of voting for anyone other than you today, and since it takes 3 to lynch, that means you're getting lynched.

If you want to be stubborn, be my guest.

Xtoxm could be scum, and Mastin2 is probably scum, but one thing I know is that I definitely am not scum.

Sort of amusing that you are trying to get us to vote for the person you tried to kill last night, though.

Is it also amusing that I am going to spend the day desperately begging for you guys to join a hopeless lynch on scum.

Also, this claim is baseless and incorrect. I didn't do anything last night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:25 pm

Also explain why you are still alive, as conftown steven universe, for about 5 days now? The only player who would have any motivation to keep you alive as scum is Mastin2.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:34 pm

Okay, good point.

Now is not the time to be stubborn though. I don't care if you think I am scum, but saying that you wont take your vote off me under any circumstances is what really worries me. The same one sidedness led us to mislynching Grapes.

Xtoxm (who I would be voting immediately were I actually scum) or Mastin2 have a 50% chance of being mafia from my perspective. Pretty sure Mastin2 and me were confirmed, and it wouldn't be unreasonable for Yellow Diamond to be a godfather, just saying.

St Constantine the Hermit · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:35 pm

They both look scummy to me too. Xtoxm for his association with Titus, and Mastin2 because of meta, posts, and apparent scum strategy.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:48 am

Please show where Mastin was confirmed as "yellow diamond"

Assuming the last scum is Yellow Diamond

Good point? What do you mean, good point? Are you referring to the strongman death right before he could haget killed us as a good point? Why is that a good point TO YOU.

Because it defeated my argument. It legitimizes why you are still alive. I was thinking Mastin2 was the only one with motivation to leave you alive as scum.

Wtf is this. If I have a link to Titus it's because she intended it. But please, explain.

A lot of it had to do with the distance and nature of your interactions when they did happen.

1.) Why do you claim you didn't do anything last night when we already said we know you visited Mastin? If it wasn't a kill attempt, what were you doing?

Your information is wrong. I did not do anything last night. What is this information based on?

3.) Why does Godfather matter for anyone besides you, since you are the only person alive who has a claimed cop investigative on them?[/quote]
It should matter to you, since the only way I am scum is if I am a godfather. Too bad I didn't confirm my role earlier.

Also my mod confirmed "Rave" flavor doesn't exactly scream Homeworld Gems.

4.) Why did you refuse to create an alliance with Mastin like we asked you to?

To control the game. The last person I allied with was MaxwellPucket.

Titus hardtunneled me (not her meta is we were scumbuddies) and Maxwell put me as his top scumread along with xtoxm.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:31 pm

Xtoxm is scum then.

What question didn't I answer?

I was defending myself or trying to enlighten you?

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:33 pm

I shouldn't of listened and stayed on Grapes. We could of ended the day yesterday.

VOTE: Xtoxm

I buy that mastin2 is not scum. Even without method of deduction, xtoxm has a really scummy play which I have been pointing out the past couple of days.
Also, if you are going to defend Mastin2, at least accept that there are more reasons to townread me than her.

St Constantine the Hermit · Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:18 pm

Yeah, I'm done being played around with. The joke isn't that funny.

It's on you RR. If you think I am scum, then vote me so we can get this over with. I already know where this is going.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:40 am

I spent all of yesterday trying to get xtoxm lynched, and you convinced me to vote for grapes

You can't explain why people are scum in this game. When you know, you fucking know, and if you don't, you eventually will if you keep playing.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:43 am

I mean, well played xtoxm (or mastin2 but not so sure anymore). I cannot really get on cerberus and drizzx right now, because they did listen to me and unvoted at least for awhile.

The association between Titus and Xtoxm was clear. It isn't something you can explain, but it is something veterans pick up on. Like how we can tell the difference between scum walls and town walls.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:47 am

Cerberus, if you are not unvoting, should I just self-hammer or do you want to dwell on xtoxm some more.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:52 am

Hold on, what did Mastin2 claim flavor

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:57 am

Anyway ... asked you some questions ... you gonna answer? It wasn't hard ... why did you want US to be the ones to hammer you earlier in the game?

If I had some sort of plan, you could of just ruined it.

Mylo Tips to live by

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:00 pm

people are just too stupid to realize that Xtoxm is scum. But wait, it might be Mastin. You're not sure anymore.

After 9 days, there are strong reasons to scumread everyone still alive. I would not be surpised if Mastin2 flipped scum, but you convinced me Xtoxm has a better chance.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:07 pm

If she were a gem, we would have fused.

I mean, in the show, connie was able to fuse with steven.

What did xtoxm claim?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:16 pm

Titus was dwelling on me hinting at being a supersaint. Probably tipped off xtoxm in the scum PT, which is why he is being smart enough not to vote me.

Did you ever ally with Xtoxm, Cerberus?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:17 pm

Unvote just for the duration of this conversation btw

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:18 pm

Actually don't, that would be a bad idea now that I think about it. But seriously, did you ever attempt to ally with Xtoxm?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:25 pm

Why do you think I am insulting you Drixx? I am perfectly calm and rational, having accepted my fate.

If Xtoxm fake claimed, you guys should be able to fuse with him tonight if we VTNL. It isn't lylo, I say we use the extra night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:27 pm

Permanent neighborhood? Makes sense set-up wise to have Steven Universe and Yellow Diamond in a permanent thread together, especially considering there is no known fusion in the TV series.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:06 pm

So have xtoxm vote me and lets get this over with

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:20 pm

Then I guess we are waiting

Although this means nothing until after my flip, town lost this game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:06 pm

I never made cases in all my time playing this game.
I catch a lot of scum though. It is more gut than anything, and the longer you play, the better your gut gets.

There are few actual definitive arguments on Xtoxm, but if you anaylze his ISO and mainly his interactions/distance with Titus, he should ring pretty scum to most players.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:09 pm

Still a couple questions left.

You claimed to know that I targetted Mastin2, but I know I didn't. Did you ever answer where this information came from?

Why didn't Xtoxm vote for me? Did Titus hint in the scum PT of the suspicion she expressed in the game about me being a supersaint?

Why was there no nightkill? What possibly could of stopped a nightkill?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:10 pm

Does the mod confirmed flavor "Rave," sound like the kind of flavor homeworld gem scum would have?

Why are you in a permanent alliance with Xtoxm? Wouldn't that only make sense if he was Yellow Diamond and you were Steven Universe, considering the lack of an actual fusion in the show?

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:24 pm

You still haven't answered how you "know" mastin2 was targetted by me last night.
If xtoxm isn't just messing with us as scum, then Mastin2 is 100% the final scum going off that assumption.

If this helps, I am not a supersaint, just for future reference.

St Constantine the Hermit · Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:26 pm

Yes, I did get that scum vibe from Mastin2 as much as Xtoxm over the course of this game, and Xtoxm is giving me reason to want to put my chips behind Mastin2 again.

VOTE: Mastin2

Will be mad if he is scum though, considering he had been fucking with us for quite awhile.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:58 am

VOTE: Xtoxm

Supersaint theory was correct. Lynch this.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:01 am

Sneaking in a vote without explanation is my greatest mafia pet peeve. Even worst when someone does it in mylo,

Xtoxm should ring scum, for that vote, and he is not playing like a townie,

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:54 am

Great game guys.
Awesome moderating Varsoon, you earned some serious rep points from this game.

My only complaint is that I think lynching me was incredibly stupid that final day, but I guess I have to adapt to account for bad scope from other players during Mylo.
Thinking Mastin2 was scum seems a bit of a stretch now that I consider it as well.

Best players were Maxwell, Titus, and Cerberus by far. Titus actually had the model scum play this game if it were not for RR calling her out on that slip.

Xtoxm, you played like a pro, but I am wondering why you drew out the ending. Did you think I was a supersaint? Cerberus unvoting and you revoting is the equivalent of declaring yourself scum, but I guess you knew what you were doing since you got Cerberus to hammer.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:55 am

I think we might of won if I didn't have that change of heart on Mastin2 and opened the day going hard on Xtoxm.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:57 am

This was a really tough one to lose, since I can be pretty competitive as town. I kind of saw from the start of mylo that I was going to be lynched one way or another.

Since I had fun though and got to learn about some of the veteran players here, I can walk away quite satisfied.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:58 am

Drixx

- Pro tip. Plays are only scummy when the player ends up being scum. You can't go around using that as an excuse for mislynching, but I think I know where you are trying to come from.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:00 pm

Drixx

Keep trying m8

You and Cerberus have the potential to be some kick ass players. Don't let constructive criticism demotivate you.
A couple times this game I tried to give you advice, but you interpreted like I was demeaning you, and I didn't want you to go away with that sort of vibe.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:03 pm

Xtoxm

I'm expecting people to realize sooner than later that my meta is unconventional.
A lot of players have expressed frustration at their inability to read me. Burn it with fire! <--- That kind of thing.

If you want someone to not lurk though, that isn't me. I have to lurk given how long the time interval is between day and night.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:04 pm

Cerberus

Don't mean to break it to you, but the only thing that means anything in this game is gut.
Notice how the veteran players become more and more susceptible to short one line posts over walls.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:07 pm

There is a word for it, but I can't remember it right now.
Certain knowledge is impossible to explain through verbal or written communication.

When someone is scum, it doesn't matter how hard you push a case, you just know what they look like when they make to much noise. Logic is good for vote count analysis and night action analysis, but it wont do anything for raw scumhunting abilities.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:09 pm

Titus

Your big on anaylzing vote trends, which I agree with are a good way to catch scum. When your gut gives you correct scumreads over 50% of the time in a game with this many players, you know that it wasn't luck that identified scum.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:10 pm

Cerberus

Your tune will change, guarantee it. Not stating this as an argument, in so much as a fact.
Raw ability at identifying scum (gut) is the most effective tool one can have this game.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:11 pm

Am I using the wrong word, Titus?

What word should I be using instead of gut?

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:28 pm

I'm well into my 2nd decade.

20 years? Wow, I'm impressed. You must of been playing it as Werewolf in the 80's.

St Constantine the Hermit · Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 pm

The most impressive part of the game was when Cerberus and Drixx caught Titus and Sonic through that scumslip.

If that scumslip never happened, I have a hard time believing Titus would of ever been lynched. She played really well this game, it almost makes me paranoid of the next time I play with her.