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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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theaceofspades Goon
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In post 1464, Skybird wrote:TheAceofSpades - Have you played with MetalSonic before? in post 1280 you have MS as one of your strongest town reads? I don't read him that way at all and wonder what you are seeing that I am not.
I have. lemme lookAs the king of all cosmos remarked "is it really fun? or that it let's you forget yourself?"
aceofspades is the worst poster on site and anyone that hasn't got him on ignore is doing themselves a disservice ~N
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theaceofspades Goon
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cutthroat kitchen and robbery at the casino are the games i played with him. Granted one was a hydraAs the king of all cosmos remarked "is it really fun? or that it let's you forget yourself?"
aceofspades is the worst poster on site and anyone that hasn't got him on ignore is doing themselves a disservice ~N
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Imperium Jack of All Trades
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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If this game is multiball, there will beIn post 1469, Cephrir wrote:Took me a second to arrive at the multiball conclusion, but yeah.to pay.HELL
I already had to live through (rather,Ilive through) ONE role-madness-pantheon game, and here I am, volunteering to enter into another when I have every reason to expect similarly-negative thoughts. After THAT level of suffering, if on top of it all, I then have to deal with lolSURPRISEMULTIBALL, then I'm murdering dramonic. And then going on a rampage to destroy the scum as a royally pissed off goddess.didn'tMy academy.
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Skybird Mafia Scum
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Hi Imp! Nice to play with you again Tammy. I don't think I've ever had the opportunity to play with Nacho.-
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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Also,
Vote: theaceofspades.My academy.
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Skybird Mafia Scum
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Skybird Mafia Scum
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In post 1502, theaceofspades wrote:cutthroat kitchen and robbery at the casino are the games i played with him. Granted one was a hydra
Thanks. Now can you explain why he's one of your strongest town reads?-
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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In post 1469, Cephrir wrote:Spoiler: Cephrir moors his ship in an unsuspecting port town central on the spice trade routes...
It's hard to explain but here is my best try.
Gut is gut. When I feel something there is a reason there I can't really explain but when I saw the push on brantz it wasn't for what I felt or read and it was just weak points.
I'm glad someone is on the same pages as me for some reads, sorry I'm not up to you expectations.
*takes knife out of heart*
You can have that back I'll just die a little at the insult.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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iHouse Townie
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In post 1500, Aeronaut wrote:I'm going to at least try to read what's happened, but in reality, it's gonna be a very rough skim.
Anyone want give me a summery?
You're scum again.
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iHouse Townie
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In post 1503, Imperium wrote:TSO - When you're done flirting with iHouse, can you please answer why you're voting for us? I'm trying to nail down your alignment. kthnxbai!
Stop trying to steal him away from me!Hydra of House and eyestott-
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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In post 1502, theaceofspades wrote:cutthroat kitchen and robbery at the casino are the games i played with him. Granted one was a hydra
Not everyone has played with ms.
Just saying.
In post 1500, Aeronaut wrote:I'm going to at least try to read what's happened, but in reality, it's gonna be a very rough skim.
Anyone want give me a summery?
Vote ace.
Sky has changed my view already.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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IVE ALWAYS WANTED TO PLAY WITH MASTIN
Oh my god it's finally happening
Oh god what do I say what do I say
I'd like to thank my amazing director and showrunner who made this all a reality2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 1512, farside22 wrote:In post 1502, theaceofspades wrote:cutthroat kitchen and robbery at the casino are the games i played with him. Granted one was a hydra
Not everyone has played with ms.
Just saying.
In post 1500, Aeronaut wrote:I'm going to at least try to read what's happened, but in reality, it's gonna be a very rough skim.
Anyone want give me a summery?
Vote ace.
Sky has changed my view already.
What has Ace done specifically.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Imperium Jack of All Trades
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In post 1511, iHouse wrote:In post 1503, Imperium wrote:TSO - When you're done flirting with iHouse, can you please answer why you're voting for us? I'm trying to nail down your alignment. kthnxbai!
Stop trying to steal him away from me!
You can have him back! I only want him for a tiny minute.A hydra of Nacho and Tammy!-
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Xombie Goon
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My current vote sucks!
And I haven't even finished all those walls yet
I will follow youuuuuu.
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Xombie Goon
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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You're not gonna like where my vote was before.In post 1513, Aeronaut wrote:IVE ALWAYS WANTED TO PLAY WITH MASTINMy academy.
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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(And I'd go back, too, it's just that I have no problem being on theace wagon, in part because I feel scummish about them, in part because I like the names driving it, and in part thanks to its steady build.)My academy.
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Solar Wind Goon
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These are ffery-reads. We haven't fully synched on our reads, though I think there's a fair bit of convergence here.
TOWN TOWN TOWN
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho) - separate town reads on both heads.
23. Bitmap - really liked the way he went about sorting me and his reasons for towning me based on both neighborhood and game thread interactions. We have played 3 games together (all newbies). In one he was flipped scum before I joined the game in 3p lylo, and metaing him for interactions with his scumteams helped nail down my read on his scumbuddy. In one he was scum and gave me a very easy townread on day 1 which flipped to trying unsuccessfully to get me lynched the next day. And in the 3rd game he was town, and was offput by my lack of overt meta dives and scumread me for not doing stuff he thought was emblematic of town-me. His point for townreading me here was a feature of my townplay, but not one that he's seen a lot of in our tiny list of mutual games. And he did some set-up to make an interaction happen in a way that would elicit something he sees as an aspect of my town play. That looks like an awful lot of work to go through as scum to develop a fake read.
14. FourTrouble - his reads and pushes have the kind of nuance that I've come to expect from his town games, and he's pointing up stuff I'm noticing in the game at the point in the game where I notice it - which is not a super-powerful town tell for me, but it's something that I weigh into a read when I know that the player and I tend to synch that way when we're both town. I don't have experience with scum-FT, so I'm relying to a fair extent on F-16's read of him as well.
24. Xombie - I think his reaction to MS' gambit was pretty town. I am basing this somewhat on how I personally would react to such a gambit. I also liked his reaction to being scumread based on his confirmation stage play. He's consistent and thoughtful. This is something of a gut-read, but if I were replacing into this game and his slot had needed replacing, I would have taken the slot without hesitation. (I really should read every single iso in every game I play with this mindset, but I never do).
TOWN
Farside22 - her pushes and reasoning look town to me. Would consider moving her up one, but I have very little experience playing with her and haven't exhaustively meta'd her so this is not a strongly informed read.
7. -Blonde- - I came away from our interaction thinking he's town. His assumptions held together, and I liked that he voted us on a whim/to piss me off, and then was disappointed that I didn't care about the vote. I think that was genuine, though probably not scumhunting/trying to provoke an alignment indicative reaction. His style of play isn't srsface, and that's something I don't read well, which is why he's here and not in my top group.
17. RachMarie - lots of town notes here. I like her questioning the townreads she picked up early in the game. My one question mark is why is Mastin scumreading her, but since I'm not sure mastin's town, I'm not weighing that read heavily atm.
19. Ankamius - This is another read where I had to iso. I like his intereactions with/about Imperium. I like his reactions to metal sonic (and the point about MS forcing masons out in a recent game is something I'd missed earlier). I have it down as a minor point to meta to see if his annoyance about the gameplay during the confirmation phase has shown up in other games since he called it a pet peeve.
KINDA TOWN
1. Angrypidgeon - I think sitewide he's a little disengaged with mafia right now, and this game has that sense to me. I thought his reaction to F-16's push looked townish. More data, and reactions to recent game stuff would be nice, and I think this read will probably move up.
9. Ooba - this read has faded a little. I know ooba tends to be a quieter player, but this still feels like low-content. though there's definitely content and some of it has resonated strongly.
10. ZZZX - low content, but I feel like there have been a few town notes.
15. Cephrir- After playing a game where Ceph was really, really obvtown to me, I am a little sad that I didn't get that sense from him this time. But, there 's a relaxed playfulness to his catch-ups that I like and I kinda think are town. I think the fact that he's read my slot without forming a read on me personally is going to make it hard to firm this read up.Mantisdreamz, Flames682
3. Mastin2- there's something I look for in scum-Mastin that I'm not seeing here. I feel like this is a negative space read, but at least I'm reading her. This is the first game in quite a while where I feel like I have a read of my own here, and am not depending on a hydra partner.Dcane
5. Theaceofspades - I was going to put him in the next lower group but post 1280 gives me town vibes. So far, this is the only read where I've gone back to look at the iso.
vezokpiraka - I see the reasons he's being town read and they make sense to me. It's disconcerting to have to read someone I've played a few games with this way, but when I look at him through my usual lenses he always gives me bad vibes. there are just not many points of congruence in how we approach games.
21. iHouse (House and Eyestott)- on his own, I had House as middling town. The hydra is a less clear-to-me read, plus I kinda have this "why" thing going on regarding him switching to a hydra, specifically a hydra with eyestott.House
4. Skybird- BRantz was a slight town lean before the replace-out. I liked his push on vezok and I felt 607 and 659 both show a town mindset in terms of how he's questioning people. I want to meta Skybird. I modded one game where she played and thought she gave off town vibes as town, but I knew that in advance watching her play.BRantz
MAYBE TOWN
8. TiphaineDeath - this read has faded. If there's scum in our neighborhood, it pretty much has to be him. I was/am open to the possibility that our neighborhood is all town, though. One of the things that bugged me was the way he went after Metal Sonic right away. This has happened in every game they've played together with me, regardless of his alignment, so it comes down to a question of whether the read makes sense. Right now, I dunno if it does.
2. Metal Sonic - some of his play has given me town vibes (his early push on me, mostly), but the whole mason thing left a really bad taste in my mouth.
18. The Mask - this is a pretty null read. I feel like the abrasiveness is an over the top affectation, and there's very little meat beyond that in his iso.
T S O - not seeing much scumhunting here and it bothers me. I'd consider moving him down one.
25. VysePresident - there's not a lot to go on here, but I modded a newbie game he recently played. He was way more involved, and was right in there developing stances as soon as he replaced in. So, I know he can catch up in a game he replaces into. I feel like he should be able to do that here, but this game's pace is fast, and many interactions are deeply affected by prior games. I'm comparing his play to say mask or blonde, and he comes off more apologetic. I started this write up in kinda town, but in writing it down, I think he belongs in maybe town.
NOT SO TOWN
11. PeregrineV - I feel like pere always winds up here on day 1 due to heavy-duty lurking. It seems like even heavier duty than normal, though, with very little content
6. Beastcharizard - reading his iso, it's all posturing with no reasoning whatsoever about his stances. I could say the same about Mask, but in Mask's case I don't have any experiential meta to say this is off his usual town play. In beast's case I do.
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usual disclaimer: this list is not in seriatim order.
There are some maybe town players I'd be willing to lynch, but there's not a place at least as that group is currently ordered where I'd draw a line. After f-16 and I do some more synch that will probably change.-
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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I'd ask where the scum are, but that'd be hypocritical of me and I've learned better.
I don't really feel like compiling a readslist right now. Will say the TOWNTOWNTOWN section's all good for me and is top-tiered town for me as well. Thereon downwards, not so much. (Not as scum, just not as town.)My academy.
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Solar Wind Goon
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T S O Survivor
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It ain't me."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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T S O Survivor
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Look, Imperium, I voted you to try to invest myself in this game and hold myself responsible for doing something in this game. It's happened before where I've been very detached from games and I've just clicked into them rather arbitrarily and then proceeded to do well. I was hoping it would happen by this - it didn't.
I have no reason to vote you, really - I'm sure in my ISO, if I went to look, there'd be some kind of reason I could concoct which would fit with your thoughts and get me a townread - and much as I'd love a townread right now I don't feel like putting in work just to be manipulative. Sorry, I guess.
unvote"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis
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