NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[KoreanBBQ]

GM: apparently mason buddy. Don't touch her either.

Bert: my god I hated his readlist. Absolutely hated them. It is as horrible as SC's initial readlist and SSK's that readlist. I don't care if it was his gut's reads. It is absolutely HORRIBLE

SC: go die if you don't know my read on him

P-Edit: never said you used it to call yourself town. But you indeed use it against MCM.
I won't bother myself to find the exact post, but I know it was around the point where I was drunk, because I remember forcing myself to call you town out of spite because I hated those posts.

[KoreanBBQ]

Well in that sense it's prob not called a "defense"

[Tammy]

I still see no town motivation for the moronic way she provoked me that night and I'm not going to suck up to her because she's supposedly a mason.

[KoreanBBQ]

Not blaming you for it.
I just hated it as a pet peeve and that is all.

[KoreanBBQ]

Pieguyn: scum for the next few minutes just for sake of attempting to make me waffle again on SC

[KoreanBBQ]

Norl: I think he posted once and disappeared. Lurker or just plain ol' future replacement

Bro: haven't seen him for a while either. Prob yet another replacement

Desp: I still think he's town and I'm gonna keep it.

[KoreanBBQ]

The rest: idc. They weren't that memorable as far as the post goes. From there, cephrir is the towniest.

[KoreanBBQ]

K I'm done with the readlist thingy.

At least ppl won't bitch about us not doing shit in this game.
Hah!

[KoreanBBQ]

No wait I'm not done yet

Generic is still town even though his posts sucks.

Meant to say that Bert null (slightly leaning scum just for that readlist)

[Bert]

Vote: Stuffed Crust

[Bert]

Yeah, I'm not really pleased with my content here and what I've managed, but anyways give me two weeks and I should have lots of late night computer access then.

[Bert]

Also, I ask for some leeway too as this is my first large game that I've stuck with (only other was Xenogears and I replaced out immediately) and I'm a player that only skims.

[Sakura Hana]

Unvote
Vote: SC

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: StuffedCrust
Because, deadline.

[geists]

Geists: fery has been awfully waffly today. I don't even remember if I've ever seen her this waffly. As Nero pointed out, her claim to follow my read on SC when I already had a read on him before then was weird. I didn't bother reading nati. Ultimately town, but with little bit of reservation.

I absolutely am waffly and I'm not making any bones about that. I thought this player list would necessarily lead to strong day 1 reads. That mostly hasn't been the case. My reads have veered and reversed course again and again.

What I am not is hedgy.

[Bert]

Haha, I accuse Ffery of the same thing every game. *sigh* Waffly has no bearing on alignment I don't think. interchangeable with hedgy sorta I guess

also this game is way over my head lol but I wanted to try a different kind of game for once (And once only) and not think twice, and plus cool mod and playerlist.

[geists]

waffling and hedging are not the same thing.

[Bert]

OK.

So if you were to die tonight, who are your scumreads?

[MC Maraca]

godfuckmylife

VOTE: desperado

[MC Maraca]

Sakura Hana
Norlkaz
Ser Arthur Dayne
BROseidon
MafiaSSK/Bert

these are my null's in the order of towniest --> scummiest

I think Sakura is town.
Norlkaz is pure null.
SAD is null leaning town right now. Bert point on why SAD is unlikely to defend SSK as scum is actually a pretty good point.
BRO was town before, but I have less faith in that read than I did before.
SSK, no clue.
Bert, town.

you thought Bert was town in the Open game.

[Bert]

Mara go away and go look for your wallet

<3

[geists]

Players of concern are Bro, zmuffin, domo and to a lesser extent Ceph and Sakura. I'm not totally buying in to the blacklist tell variant.

I have no idea how to read SAD or llamarble at this point.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

TOWN ANGELS:
Tammy
Geists
Maraca
Falcon
Bert
Goodmorning
Sakura Hana

ANGELS IN WAITING:
Generic
Stuffed Crust
Pieguy
KoreanBBQ
Cephrir
Desperado

CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN:
BRO
Norlkaz
SSK
SAD
DOMO
MuffinMan

This is great. I was thinking somewhat similarly but with a few modifications.

[Cephrir]

Town: Desp, Bert, Muffin, Tammy

Scum: DOMO, Ceph, MC?, geists?, Casso?, SAD?

I'm not known for saying my scumbuddies are hardcore town on day 1. The only time I can recall calling a scumbuddy that town was the one game I played a year ago before disappearing again, and that was like day 5. I probably called Cabd town day 1 in NY165 but not this strongly. It sort of baffles me that you would think I would do that regardless of meta? Also, I think BRO is probably town solely because he is not trying very hard to look town (see: ny167, special case admittedly, and to a lesser extent ny165)

That would involve me posting their entire iso.

But in a nutshell, their entire iso is off. Mara is trying to affect an "I'm a badass" image, which actually started with her response to my statement that everyone with a start date within the last year was new. It was fake, she was all pfft you're saying I'm new, which is true, but whatevs. Then every single thing she has posted has been her trying to create an affect like she's in control of the game, which some people can't help but do when they're scum. (If on the slight chance she's not scum, I suppose it could be her trying to show off for her hydra partner and create this atmosphere of something she's not, however it more lines up with her scum).

Anyway read their iso, there's a smugness that's there that denotes not one ounce of town trying to figure out the game but scum posturing every chance they get.

fucking BINGO

bingo, baby

maraca is scum

I guess I can actually sort of maybe understand this logic

I've been wondering about mara for a while now. there's some things she's said that seem off, but I didn't investigate further. now that more people are saying she's scum I'm way more interested. I can elaborate if you want

Also the comment about SC is atrocious. You are happy on the casso wagon, don't like the SC wagon yet are willing to trust GIF over it, which could be GIF bussing them?!?

o I meant scum bussing SC, not GIF. sry for confusion

Where do I start with THAT!? You trust scum on a wagon you have bad vibes for, you prefer the casso wagon but are ready to move onto two other wagons and you don't want indecision anymore but are open to a new push on mcmaraca....

essentially I'm fine with all 3 of them, yeah. we need some better wagons and IMO projecting that I'm happy with all 3 could make people more inclined to hop off their respective wagons to form a better wagon

Every once in a while you say these really weird things and I don't know whether to call them scum craplogic or townie moonlogic =/

Ok, so you voted for casso only after he voted for you. You had a major arguement prior but only when they pulled the trigger so to speak you did.

You also had cephrir as a major scum read that you spent several posts linking to casso, but the moment they to v/la they aren't on your radar at all.
Stuffed crust is a consistent read of yours but if you are scum with cephrir trying to setup casso or if you are scum with casso bussing each other then you are setting up town mislynches on two people I happen to be town reading...

I'm gonna think on this, you are heavily on the radar here Pieguyn.

Wow, I read an entire Generic post! And I even liked it!

Vote: MC Maraca

Quite happy to lynch this hydra today.

zzzzzzzzzz

ffery what the fuck you better not be scum

I feel like you make statements like this a lot but either way I am finding this pretty insincere sounding.

Below are quotes from when MAra was linked. Wow, my Chosen Mafia memory was bad, they were only at lynch -3. But the other two add, though.

Spoiler:

26th Vote Count (26th of Day 1)

Ms Marangal - 7 (RachMarie, 50 Shades of Purple, Wisdom, Sakura Hana, TiP, notcience, saki) - L-0

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Sakura Hana - 1 (Ms Marangal)
50 Shades of Purple - 1 (notscience)
goodmorning - 1 (bert)
malakittens - 1 (goodmorning)
RachMarie - 1 (Scott Brosius)

A lynch has been achieved!

Deadline August 10, 11:59 PM US Eastern Time (GMT-4)

Nightfall is in (expired on 2013-08-10 20:59:00)

As all men know, the Chosen are a life form greater than any other inhabiting this world. They harvest their energy from the Core using the Great World Spine and grow weapons and great ships. Even a soldier's armor is organically grown, molded to their bodies as a second skin of extreme strength. Yet even these titans must bow to the laws of nature; she does not take kindly to strangers flouting her age old edicts. One of the Chosen believed themselves above these rules, yet how wrong they were....

magenta_thegreat,

Neutral Survivor

, (

formerly

Vanilla Townie

)

has been modkilled Day 1.

It is now Night 1. Please send in all actions within (expired on 2013-10-14 18:00:00)

Town lover

Voodoo Lady was lynched

Ms Marangal thought it better to die then to live in this world. Ms Marangal walked into a dark alley with a crowbar and paid a hobo to beat her/him/it to death. Such a tragic end to a mentally fucked up couple.

Voodoo Lady

and

Ms Marangal Town Lovers

died Day 1

Day 2 Begins NOW

Votecount 2.0

5 votes to lynch.

macmollie

- L5

Nachomamma8

- L5

Wisdom

- L5

absta101

- L5

The Acting Method

- L5

Nachopappa

- L5

Core_H86

- L5

Mutleyddmc

- L5

Vigilante Ventriloquist

- L5

GuyinFreezer

- L5

Not voting

macmollie
Nachomamma8
Wisdom
absta101
The Acting Method
Nachopappa
Core_H86
Mutleyddmc
Vigilante Ventriloquist
GuyinFreezer

Deadline (expired on 2013-06-28 16:13:07)

P-edit: Ffery I'm paranoid about you, don't act surprised lol, paranoia does not equal scum, but I'm still gonna make observations about hwat I don't like. Did you see Sakura on my scumreads list? No. Or Generic? Nope. I mentioned the cons about them in this game so far too. It's not just you. <3

@ffery:

I still think you're town, but to be blunt I'm wondering what the hell is up with you this game. you're still misreading me and this is the first time that's happened. not only that but practically everything you're scumreading me for is bc of my failure in large games. you're scumreading me bc I'm not asking "as many" questions, or cross-referencing "as many" reads. the fact that you attribute these differences to me being scum, rather than me being bad at larges, and your failure to see the town motivation in my actions is starting to worry me

especially when (I think it was you) you townread BRO for being lost, and looking through your ISO you yourself admitted being lost at some point (or mb it was Nati)

and I'm starting to get pissed off bc both your and Bert's scumreads on me are bc I'm not doing "what's expected of me". what the fuck am I supposed to do with that? have you seen any completed large games with me as town? no, bc none exist. there is no way you can know what is "expected of me" in a large game as town. I've explained why my play in large games is different. you act like I didn't. combined with the town motivation in my actions, you should be able to see that I'm town here. rather, considering we have 3 completed games together and we've got along well in the past, I'd expect you to see that I'm town here. but you're still misreading me? wake up

Do you

normally

literally ever try this hard Mr. I barely read threads???

yeah, to some extent

I'm trying to figure out what's going on bc ffery hasn't misread me before.

but I think her reasons for accusing me are really off and not smth I'd expect from her. I still think they're town but their push on me is worrying me a bit

Yuck.

I am not sold you are town. Still null at this point. You could be an actual Mason. You could be a VT fake-claiming Mason. Or you could be scum fake-claiming Mason. Regardless, Mara made a dumb move earlier in the game. If you were competent town, I'd expect you to own up to it and back off. You didn't. You continued acting as if you were in the right and OMGUSing me. That makes you (Mara) either scum or incompetent town. I am not sure which. That's why you are in my annoyance pile. Only incompetent townies tunnel mindlessly. I backed off of voting you several pages ago so if you are actually town and this ends up being TvT, it is not my fault and you better not blame me at endgame, just saying that now.

Dunno what you're going on about but I do know this post rubs me the wrong way.

Reminding myself this happened

[Cephrir]

Players of concern are Bro, zmuffin, domo and to a lesser extent Ceph and Sakura. I'm not totally buying in to the blacklist tell variant.

I have no idea how to read SAD or llamarble at this point.

How did I fall down your scumlist in the intervening 40 pages without doing a single thing?