Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[Belisarius]

I'm not getting the lynch I want either

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #49

DrDolittle (0)

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kanyeknowsbest (0)

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Belisarius (0)

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waynegg (0)

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pieguyn (4)

- waynegg, Empking, Majiffy, AGar

AGar (0)

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PeregrineV (0)

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leviathan93 (0)

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Svenskt Stål (0)

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Empking (0)

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Majiffy (2)

- leviathan93, DeasVail

Pyrotechnics (0)

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Sakura Hana (0)

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NachoKoopa (1)

- DrDolittle

DeasVail (1)

- kanyeknowsbest

Matias (0)

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ArcAngel9 (7)

- NachoKoopa, Natirasha, Sakura Hana, talah, Pyrotechnics, pieguyn, Svenskt Stål

talah (0)

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Natirasha (0)

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Kalimar (0)

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No lynch (0)

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Not voting (5)

- Belisarius, PeregrineV, Matias, ArcAngel9, Kalimar

20 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-23 11:46:30)

[ArcAngel9]

there is whole lot of lazy asses and scum are in my wagon... as soon as i get hold on with this game... i ll smack eachone your butts!!!!!!

[Natirasha]

I'm not getting the lynch I want either

Which lynch is that?

[Belisarius]

The guy who's playing the way I did in my first non-replacement scumgame.

I haven't exactly been making it a secret.

[Natirasha]

Refresh my memory.

[Svenskt Stål]

there is whole lot of lazy asses and scum are in my wagon... as soon as i get hold on with this game... i ll smack eachone your butts!!!!!!

are

you

calling people lazy?

[PeregrineV]

Requesting butt smacking.

Vote: ArcAngel

[Majiffy]

Oh god, i had no time and you already built wagon on me
Nacho, why are voting me.. I am not scum..i am very much town...

Quickly! Aboard the piewagon! It is made of town and win!

Requesting butt smacking.

I, too, am anticipating having my posterior stricken.

[pieguyn]

I'm an M. go for it w

[AGar]

1183 is really scummy.

I think it's best not to lynch either Kalimar or Pie today. Both their alignments will be more obvious later.

Vote: Majiffy

"Post by Player X is really scummy. Don't worry, I'm not going to elaborate at all.

vote: Player Y"

Get the fuck out.

I couldn't have put it any more beautifully.

I think it's scummy to assert strongly that a "town dayvig" is actually town when they've just

unilaterally

killed a strong town player who no-one was scumreading.

I have seen precisely zero lies, misreps, or insane theories from pie.

You missed the part where Jiff is a scumbag who picked up his shitty crumb early on today and still decided to try and wagon him to DOOOOOOOOOOM anyways, so he could confirm that he is, in fact, a vig, instead of, y'know, just killing him tonight.

Kalimar indicated to me in Death's Diner that he is a player with a solid understanding of the game. Let us consider the players online at the time of the shot.
-Me
-Sakura Hana
-waynegg

With a simple dayvig claim, I would have unvoted to dodge a quicklynch and Sakura likely would have followed suit. Wayne was not interested in a Kalimar lynch and likely would not vote. He was under no pressure to burn his shot like that. Instead, he initiated an unnecessary tempo shift by shooting--and not even at a good target, but a strong player who scum would definitely want dead if he was town. Mastin was under mild suspicion, but not enough to burn a dayvig shot on. For him to be town, he would have to be critically incompetent, and I am not relying on such thoughts.

Now who's not reading?

In 4+ years of playing, I have never once made a decision on the basis of who was online and who wasn't. I also don't know of anyone I've played with ever saying "Well I saw X online, so I didn't do this." I think that spans 70-80 games.

That's a terrible fucking reasoning for someone to be scum.

And then we have a ton of terrible theory talk.

Proper balancing involves swing you twit.

I don't actually think you can say that, jiffy.

I can.

Proper balancing involves swing, you twit.

And yes Nacho, we are beheading Majiffy.

If a faction can win or lose solely based on a single player's competency of a role mechanic, you're gonna have a bad time.

By that logic any game with a vig or cop is imbalanced? A mafia team can just lose if the vig hits scum with every shot.

If it's an unlimited shot vig, yeah. That's why you make it even/odd night, or x-shot.

Which only supports my argument that two vig types (with one unlimited) on the same alignment is unbalanced.

Cop was a ridiculous addition to your position. Incompetent cops get innos which don't hurt and competent cops are easily stopped by roles such as millers, godfathers, framers, etc.

Actually you just proved my point with your addition. If you design your setup around the fact two vigs are in the game(scum doc, bulletproof, roleblockers, etc) you can balance the setup and make it less swingy.

Millers and godfathers passively subvert a cop. They don't require the cop

being so covered in their own drool that they claim Day 1 unprovoked

to claim to be dealt with.

Vigs actually have to be actively subverted unless you put in an unlimited shot BP, which is just dumb because then you have dumb endgame scenarios.

Hope your vig isn't incompetent.

If you're balancing your games on the competency of your players, urdoingitrong.

BTW, for everyone saying Kalimar went under after, y'know, he confirmed his role - pieguy did the same thing of late. Only his claim is sketchy as fuck, and unconfirmed. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

[kanyeknowsbest]

huh every single one of arc angels posts is a prod dodge or promise of future activity. i went from being really mad @ that wagon (because i assume its a nacho started wagon) to not actually minding it at all.

[talah]

Prod dodge here (not trolling the ^above)

Waiting on actual content from scumspects and happy with this lynch for today.

[talah]

Just by the way kayne,

I like it a lot better when you typo stuff because when you don't it looks like you're getting way way serious

And based on the few things you've done this game, I don't think that level of seriousness is warranted. I thought you might be town because you came back and did a nacho push but now I'm seeing you do practically nothing to advance the game and you ain't voting AA9 although you're basically saying you might

Hey pie: my current vig pool is:

(Kalimar | Dolittle | Majiffy | Waynegg | Empking | Fuck it Beli) and AA9 if that's not lynched

I would also accept 'I didn't Vig' tomorrow and would like it if you considered town-wifom in your Vig considerations. I'd also like to hear from Nati, Sakura, (fukn Matias isn't replaced), Pyro (especially Syr), possibly dolittle and Nacho too. If we get a pool of three and you Vig what you think best, I'm happy. Is PereV in this game?

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura

Hi

I'm happy with a vig between (Empking | Majiffy | Waynegg) and like you AA9 as well if she's not lynched.

Also do NOT vig levi like ever.

[Belisarius]

Refresh my memory.

talah.

TBF, I don't blame anyone not-me for refusing to vote a player for playing like scumBeli. That dude's balls to the wall awesome.

[kanyeknowsbest]

itd actually make me really happy if u vigged nacho actually.

[Pyrotechnics]

Need to catch up on this game but a waynegg vig?

[kanyeknowsbest]

Just by the way kayne,

I like it a lot better when you typo stuff because when you don't it looks like you're getting way way serious

And based on the few things you've done this game, I don't think that level of seriousness is warranted. I thought you might be town because you came back and did a nacho push but now I'm seeing you do practically nothing to advance the game and you ain't voting AA9 although you're basically saying you might

Hey pie: my current vig pool is:

(Kalimar | Dolittle | Majiffy | Waynegg | Empking | Fuck it Beli) and AA9 if that's not lynched

I would also accept 'I didn't Vig' tomorrow and would like it if you considered town-wifom in your Vig considerations. I'd also like to hear from Nati, Sakura, (fukn Matias isn't replaced), Pyro (especially Syr), possibly dolittle and Nacho too. If we get a pool of three and you Vig what you think best, I'm happy. Is PereV in this game?

just cus im not mad @ the wagon doesnt mean i want to see it come 2 fruition.also im pretty much always serio ous so i dk how u would feel that i am sometimes and then othertimes not.

[kanyeknowsbest]

i think waynegg is town.

[kanyeknowsbest]

like i actually really hate your vigpool now that i read it talah.

[DrDolittle]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=29888

See this game. AA9's actions here remind me of it. She was town. I'm not saying AA9 could be scum here, but her inactivity is at most null.

The fact that Nats was the mod for that game, and still voted AA9 without making any reference or doubt makes me uncomfortable.

[Pyrotechnics]

itd actually make me really happy if u vigged nacho actually.

we can lynch nacho. unfortunately wayne is most likely town, will never be killed and will be used by scum. He's a much better vig target.

[DrDolittle]

itd actually make me really happy if u vigged nacho actually.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not saying AA9 could be scum here, but her inactivity is at most null.

The thing is that she was posting like 3-5 times a day on multiple games but here.