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Alarm bells. GuyInFreezer is my first scum read. The use of "gut" to explain a townread is weak, imo.
Orc is very probably town though. He's pressing people, scumhunting, he's even questioning why people have a scumr ead on him. I'm only up to page 4 but orc is easily the most active person.
I like this post. I've been scum before with two legit miller claims out there. I was happy to sit back and let town warp itself into a steaming pile of wtf.In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
Here, have my flavour too... Tyrea, Colonist Aligned Miller Tracker.
I don't care if I die today because a) miller sucks and causes too many problems for town, and b) tracker is not a great role, in my experience.-
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Sorry I've got my posts mixed up, multitabbing etc.
He claimed tracker as well? This is why I wanted to read up before claiming. If I was just miller, I would've just claimed first post. But the fact I have a PR on top of my miller role means that I wanted time to assess my move.
You expect me to know he's claimed miller before I post? I posted, what, 4 minutes after mod confirms I'm in... clearly I haven't read anything at this stage.I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.
I'm town miller, and yes I'm tracker too.-
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Nacho, why the "town as fuck" read on GiF? Forgive me if something has been said since this post that implies town, but up until this post he's my sole scum read. Agree about cabd and orc though.In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.In post 105, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven
MS is a boring vote.
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This guy is scummy. Leaving the miller around is a beautiful scum strategy, because as endgame approaches, the miller becomes easier and easier mislynch bait.In post 114, BROseidon wrote:I'll buy Sven's miller claim for now.
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I think nacho is town too, but I'm only up to beginning of page six.
So far...
Town = orc, cabd and to lesser extent nacho
Scum = GiF, BRO
Everyone else is null. I'm going to bed, it's 4am here, I will resume my read through tomorrow afternoon.
pedit - lol... to be fair orc, my reads are based on first six pages, and you're giving BRO a pretty hard time at that stage of the game.-
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Can't argue with that logic.In post 1417, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
VOTE: ReverendIn post 1416, TheReverend wrote:lol I've been here 5 minutes and already I figured out that jiffy uses caps and mollie doesn't, it's easy to figure out who's posting out of the two.
Oh god why do I join a game that has 57 pages on day 1? Someone motivate me please.-
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Ok so I'm gonna read up if I'm still alive at night. Sorry but I just can't be bothered to read 50+ pages to then get lynched, especially on d1 when info is minimal and my reads are most likely to be flawed.
I'm not going to go down crying though. I'm miller and therefore a very good lynch today, if town can come up with nothing better. Just don't expect a scum flip if I die today, because it's not happening.-
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I can sheep you today. But not blindly. Why AJ? I've played him before, he's easy mislynch bait because his town game seems scummy. Is there a case on him?In post 1422, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:How bout this
You just sheep one of nacho, myself, or bb for your votes
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This surprised me when I read this because you (jiffy) were in the game I was thinking, but it's me who's confused. I was thinking of Overly Posh Mafia, you and I were town, as was AJ, final day it looked like either you or AJ was going to get lynched. I thought he was mislynched because I remember thinking he was scum and recall being surprised he was town. But it was penguin who was mislynched for the scum win. My bad.In post 1426, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I don't think that I have played a game where aj was lynched and I have played like 5 with him. what game did you play with him where he was mislynched?
Still, I found him scummy most of that game, and he was town. So the point isn't moot. He's easy to push.-
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I'm bored of looking for it. I *thought* I had tracker role before, and made no use of it. But in searching for said game, I could only find a game where I was watcher, not tracker. I might be getting that confused, or I might just not be looking hard enough in my post history. Sorry I can't help you much here.In post 1435, ² wrote:
Could you link me to the game in which you experienced a tracker not being a great role?In post 1365, TheReverend wrote:I don't care if I die today because a) miller sucks and causes too many problems for town,and b) tracker is not a great role, in my experience.
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Here's your link to my watcher game... http://www.forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopi ... 23&t=23831In post 1449, ² wrote:I'm not liking Rev for 1446. The part b) explanation of post 1365 seems fabricated based on 1446.
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My flavour was gay spiderman. That raised a few chuckles.
I don't care if you don't like my explanation. My flip will show you that my thought process is sincere, although flawed. I wouldn't be so quick to post crock of crap explanations if I were scum. If I'm scum, I can defend against not declaring tracker role quite easily, without having to say it's not a great role in my experience. I can just say "I had no intention of claiming tracker on d1", which there is truth in. I'm surprised that sven full claimed tbh. I wish he hadn't.
I understand why my slot is a problem for you guys. But you have to ask why as scum sven would first of all claim miller, then full claim miller-tracker for no apparant reason, and why I would come in and say stuff like "tracker role sucks" without having the means to back my comment up. I'm a lot more careful, at least I try to be, when scum. I tend to be haphazard when town, because I just post what I think and don't worry about how it's perceived by town. When scum, I read back my posts to try and make sure I'm not fucking up. Of course, this is self-meta, which isn't of any use to anyone who doesn't know my game. But jiffy is aware of my town game, and he knows I can be all over the place.
Here, have my only scum game on this site... http://www.forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopi ... =1&t=23589
All my other games on MS are town. I can link scum games from another site I play at if required.-
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^ this post inspired me to ISO MetalSonic, and wow, what a crock of shit is that? It seems to me like he's making up scum and town reads on the spot without even reading. His attempt to explain his reads is really bad, and this post is awful...
It took me around that much time to ISO you, MS.In post 1406, Metal Sonic wrote:go iso yourself and see if it doesnt take 1 minute
This is really lazy scum imo.
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I just ISO'd TIUEHGRKEW and TD. (Yes I just did a T and then hit lots of random letters, like I assume he did when he picked his name).
Both read town to me, though neither can be strong reads. Their posts seem sincere.
Metal Sonic's posts do not seem sincere.
Ghostlin is reading town to me at this stage. Again, seems sincere, he appears to be trying to figure shit out. Same as nacho.
So based on my limited reading, I have TJKWEAGFJKEWR, TD, nacho, orc, cabd and jiffy/mollie as town... GiF, BRO and MS as most likely scum.
There's some names I don't even recognise, haven't read anything from. Like dntfckncare and jon. I'll ISO them next.-
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Shall I just float by and say nothing? I couldn't give a crap if people read me as scum, it's not like I'm expecting to make lylo. People will know I'm town before it matters.In post 1462, Nachomamma8 wrote:Please stop doing this. I recently started reading you as town, and it hurts that you do things like this to me.-
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My bad. I saw him saying he thought 2 was scum and assumed that's where his vote was, I've read some of nacho's ISO and he's had his vote there at some point.In post 1557, Mac wrote:@Reverend - Nacho is voting AJ.
Can't say I'm unhappy with my vote though. Orc has placed his vote there, nacho thinks 2 is scum, I'm happy this is a good lynch for today. If orc and nacho go for AJ, then I'll probably be on that one. I'm more confident in my town reads of orc and nacho than I am in any of my scum reads. That's why I'm happy to sheep them.
I'm looking forward to the bit where nacho changes to you.In post 1556, ² wrote:Enjoy your sheeping-journey. I'm looking forward to the unvoting part of it.-
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No, I'm not. I'm not gonna get into a rev vs jiffy argument with you when I'm miller, fuck that. This role is gonna be hard enough work as it is. If you think I'm scum, fine, you'll find out you're wrong soon enough.In post 1606, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:pretty sure rev is the scum tracker
The fact I'm tracker as well makes my role a little more interesting for town. I should be left a few nights, and then either policied, or shot by vig. That way, I die giving town info, and there's a chance scum NK me because of my PR. Depends if they think I'll make good use of it I guess. This is a large game, there's no hurry to lynch me. Just don't let me get to lylo, and I'm not a problem.
I don't pretend otherwise.In post 1609, ² wrote:You're disgustingly terrible.
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nacho changed to you before I unvoted, didn't he? Ha.In post 1637, ² wrote:
If you're insinuating what I think you're insinuating you may even be worse than I thought.In post 1627, TheReverend wrote:I don't pretend otherwise.
One thing... if you're town and I'm terrible, why aren't you all over me?
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It's friday night. I've been drinking and smoking and playing cards. I don't care if I'm terrible. I'm miller. I hope I die soon. Until it happens, I'll continue blurting out my opinion, because otherwise there would be no point in me playing, would there?
My point is... you've loosely complained about my self meta, you think I'm terrible, yet you don't seem to be making any attempt to apply any pressure on me. I don't sense any doubt about my role. You know I'm miller, don't you?
jiffy's suggestion I'm scum is sincere. He's wandering if I'm scum tracker, considering the reasons why sven might claim miller and then later claim miller tracker. This is town thought process. This is what you're lacking, little squared symbol.
I'm fully expecting a scum flip with 2.-
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Oh yeah I gotta remember this slot is not just jiffy. Sorry. Me and jiffy tend have a tendancy to argue. It's quite fun actually. When your slot accuses me of being scum, it's easy to imagine jiffy looking smug. I don't even know what jiffy looks like. A cat reading a newspaper or something like that. So yeah, a smug cat. That's jiffy.In post 1654, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
mebbe revIn post 1629, Nachomamma8 wrote:I know at least one of your scumreads is wrong because TMT has dropped at least 6 newscumtells.
and rev you are talking to mollie. I will be gentle
Town should decide today if I should die quickly or be left around so my PR can assist town. Now might be a good time to discuss how to get the best out of my role, should I be left alive. That might make it easier for town to decide if it's worth it. I'm not sure how to get the best out of a tracker role, especially when scum already know my PR, and that I'm a claimed miller for good measure. I'd quite appreciate discussion about my role tbh.-
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This took me 4 reads before BAM the logic smacked me in the face. I feel a lot better about varsoon now.In post 1707, Varsoon wrote:Wait, wait, wait, I just thought about your whole argument and it doesn't sit right with me.
You're saying that he's made a list of scum-suspects and so scum'll NK everyone not on the list, right?
So, is that a subtle way of showing you see Nacho as town?
Because I'm not seeing scum motivation for a Scum-Nacho to make a list if his plan was to NK everyone not on the list.-
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Mollie, you've played me when I'm town, right? I'm more than capable of spreading WIFOM when town, either for personal amusement, or to fuck with scum.
I obviously don't know what was going through sven's mind when he posted that. But in my experience (see malp in my scum game I linked), millers tend to play a strange game because it's a shitty role. I guess he wanted to amuse himself to make the game that little bit more enjoyable for him.
It's going to be very difficult for me to explain why sven was saying certain things. All I can say is it's obviously not a scum tell from my pov. Like I've said plenty of times already, so long as I am not allowed to make lylo, I am not a problem for town. There's a good chance we have a vig, that's how I expect to die tbh. Honestly, worrying about my role at this stage is wasting your time and effort. I'd suggest you focus on people who might actually be a problem for town later on.
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What gambit? I'm sorry I haven't read the thread yet, I've just been ISO'ing those with small ISOs.In post 1742, Varsoon wrote:@Rev: We could always use my gambit to confirm your alignment/role.-
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I don't like it. I'd rather just be lynched. Even seeing who would be willing to be join the gabit might give scum clues as to whether they are PR or not, if I were cop for example I'd be very careful about stepping up to the plate. I feel this is going to help scum narrow the cop pool. So no, I don't like this idea. Maybe if orc and nacho want to play, I can play then, because orc and nacho have been named by me, and not stepped forward, and these guys are obviously high NK priority anyway, so it minimises scum information.-
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I guess you are high NK priority, along with orc and nacho. Certainly if I were scum, and assuming you're all town, I'd be suggesting one of the three.In post 1751, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:why do you not think that our hydra would not be a high nk priority?
As for my town WIFOM, ask your hydra partner to read up on my first game at this site... the one where I was town and hammered jiffy town on final day for scum win. WIFOM is not necessarily a scum tell, it might be if one can find scum motivation for said WIFOM so I wouldn't say that it's a waste of time trying to figure out the reasons why someone would do it. Usually I do it to amuse myself, and that's what I assume sven was doing. There might also be a "fuck you town" mentality thrown in due to being miller getting a lot of grief, I have no idea about sven's meta so I really don't know.
I'm not going to throw my toys out of the pram if I get wagonned. I just don't really want it to happen for a few days so I can at least try to make use of my PR. But since my presence is a distraction for town, I'm a good default lynch if we get a claim near the deadline, or something like that. This is one reason why claiming miller as scum is not something you see often, it's very difficult to continually dodge lynch. Hats off to anyone who has actually survived as scum when claimed miller.
When have I played with you before?In post 1765, ² wrote:Rev is being the same kind of anti-town that he was the last time I played with him and he was town. I think being anti-town might be a town-tell for him.
@varsoon... I'm willing to try your gambit out, though forgive me if I'm skeptical. I'm not quite sure how it's going to prove my alignment, especially since I'm aware it's a gambit. But I'm curious, I must admit.-
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Why does it matter? Because it's a lot easier for me to compare meta if I was actually involved in the game I'm reading. If you can't remember, don't worry, I'll find it, I was simply hoping you could save me the bother. I'm not suggesting you've made it up. buldermar is vaguely familiar. I'm pretty sure I haven't played ff.In post 1791, ² wrote:
Are you really going to make me find it? I know we've played before and IIn post 1785, TheReverend wrote:When have I played with you before?willfind it if you suggest that I'm making this up. What does it matter?
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I must admit your push towards MS and BRO is giving me doubts about you. My vote is on you simply because nacho is so sure you're scum. But you seem to be reading MS and BRO same as me. I think these two look like scum too.
Let's see if I can find our history then. For now I'm gonna unvote and form my own read on you.
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Ok it was posh mafia where I played bulder. Here's a thought though... he says I was anti-town in a past game with him, but then goes on to say he can't remember which game it was... how can you remember the details of my performance if you can't even remember which game it was? And it turns out in hindsight that I was actually on the right track with ninja and vifam, so I feel it a bit harsh to be called "anti-town" for that performance, when compared to the average townie. And why am I playing anti-town in this one too, bulder? And if I am playing anti-town, why aren't you pushing for my lynch?
My vote is going back. Now it's my own read, rather than a sheep vote.
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Why do my reads suck? Because you disagree with me? I'm beginning to think maybe my reads on BRO and MS do suck, but that's due to 2's push at them at a time he's in trouble. Of course my reads suck, I've probably read 10% of the thread. I could just skate by doing bugger all, but then my reads won't develop into ones that hopefully don't suck. I'm not sure why you're so keen to slap me down tbh orc.In post 1798, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Because your reads suck-
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I'm looking forward to it. I might even self vote if it's a compelling enough case.In post 1802, TiphaineDeath wrote:1785 and 1793 are scum posts, I am off to a tourney or I'd do a more thorough case, expect one later tonight or tomorrow morning.-
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Alright, whatever. I'll maybe take your anti-town comments on board if you flip town. Maybe. I still think you're scum, I find it strange that you're not applying any pressure on me. I'd expect townies to be extremely wary of me, because of my tracker modifier. Mollie is on the ball when she worries about a scum tracker. Like I said earlier, town thought process. Scum know I'm miller. Townies do not know. You don't seem to be interacting with me in a way that makes me believe you don't know what my role is. Therefore, I think you're scum. So my vote stays.-
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Sort of. What doesn't make sense is that you actually thought posting my flavour paragraph in its entirity would be ok. I've already posted my role, that's as close to the line as I feel we're allowed. I'm happy to quote my wincon too, since it's the same as vanilla wincon in sample role pm in #2. But obviously that doesn't help determine my alignment. You've got my role flavour, you can decide for yourself if I'm scum who found a good flavour for sven's bullshit claim, or if mod had flavoured fakeclaims for scum, or if I am truthful.In post 1819, Varsoon wrote:Does that makes sense?
pedit... how do scum know I'm miller? I dunno, because they know I'm now scum, and they would naturally question why a cop, for example, would fakeclaim miller when it runs the risk of a PL on d1.-
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Can't say I'm getting a scum vibe off AJ. I don't like the "confirmed scum" comments though. It's not that I disagree, I picked up a really weak town read when ISO'ing TMT but I emphasise really weak. It's the language. No-one is confirmed scum here.
But I feel good enough about AJ to move him into my weak town camp.
I'm busy over today and tomorrow, I'm trying to keep up as the game develops.
Here's what I have in my note file for now anyway... I'll be looking to expand these notes into something more substantial during the night phase.
scum pool... ², BROseidon, GuyInFreezer, Metal Sonic, RachMarie, Varsoon, Keybladewielder
weak town read... Andrius, Cabd, dntfkingcare, Ghostlin, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Aj The Epic
strong town read... BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac, orcinus_theoriginal, Sajin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath-
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Nothing. I thought jon's total lack of interest hints at town, but that alone isn't enough. I'll judge this slot on keyblade's input from here.In post 1985, Mac wrote:What have they said that indicates scum Rev?
Anyone null is in the scum pool, ie rach and keyblade. They're gonna have to get towning.-
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Obvious scum is obvious.In post 1541, Varsoon wrote:
Eh, Iso me.In post 1538, ² wrote:
Okay. Where do you mention any reason for this scum-lean?In post 1536, Varsoon wrote:@2, I've had you has a scum-lean for most the game so far.
*crosses arms*
Why vote AJ, Nacho?
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If there's not any good reason in there, then, gut, I guess.
Regardless, I'd like to see your flip.
Just going through this gambit nonsense. Seems to me like a ridiculous charade designed to give him town cred. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think it's ok to post the info he asked for. I find it easier to believe he knew the gambit would not be accepted but that he felt he would look town for suggesting it.-
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I'm still here...In post 2022, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:What are your other reads besides Varsoon?
In post 1982, TheReverend wrote:scum pool... ², BROseidon, GuyInFreezer, Metal Sonic, RachMarie, Varsoon, Keybladewielder
weak town read... Andrius, Cabd, dntfkingcare, Ghostlin, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Aj The Epic
strong town read... BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac, orcinus_theoriginal, Sajin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath-
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Could you scum it up any more?In post 2028, Varsoon wrote:@Rev, Give me a second, I'll refute all your points. I care, and I have you as town, but you're making me really doubt that, and, as town, that's probably not something you wanna do--make town think you're scum, that is.
Again you use subtle town references to emphasise your alignment. I don't feel the need to do that when town. This follows from your very first post, which is a town claim. This is what I mean by obvious scum. It's almost too obvious.
I don't care if any townies think I'm scum. I'll either get lynched or vig'd, then yay the miller issue is cleared up. It's actually a lot easier to play miller than I anticipated, at least so far it is.-
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This is feigned anger. Yet another scum tell. Does anyone think he's actually pissed with me because I ran a case vs him? I don't see why he'd be pissed if he's town.In post 2032, Varsoon wrote:Then fucking vote for me, you shit.
I'm like 95% sure we have scum here in varsoon. I'm certainly willing to put my vote there.
vote - varsoon
If town doesn't want to swing for varsoon, I think I like an AJ lynch over 2 for this reason...
An AJ scum flip will look really bad for varsoon imo.In post 675, Varsoon wrote:@Orc: Man, what do you have against me? I'd rather be your friend.
Also, why bring up something like "AJ or Varsoon, the guy who sheeped him", when in 367 you do the same thing with your vote?
I feel like you're scum-slipping, and you're trying too hard to play town-leader.-
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Cabd, you think TD is bussing varsoon here? I'd be more inclined to look at TD in the event of a varsoon town flip, though tbh I'd expect to die very fast if that were to happen. I have TD as town because his attack at me felt genuine. He might just have fooled me, sure, but I'm sticking with him in town pile for now, especially with his shift to varsoon. But if varsoon were to flip town, his vote would then be very opportunistic, and would rightly deserve scrutiny.-
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If accusing people of being scum is rude, then I'm extremely rude, yes.In post 2096, Varsoon wrote:It confirmed Reverend as town for me, even if he's a really rude player.
There's a lot for me to take in here. MetalSolid defending varsoon so hard is interesting.
Referring to me, and this is true.In post 2100, Ghostlin wrote:He's not someone we can take to LYLO for example.
Ghostlin's #2108 is an excellent post, it strengthens my town read on him and in turn has me looking at TMT.
Two very good questions.In post 2118, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:WAAAAIIIT a minute. how do you have nacho and orc down as town for the reasons you gave and me as scum when they are both sheeping my reads? like how does that even work?
also @ varsoon
you keep putting us in town and then you are putting us as scum and there is zero progression of your read. explain
I'd like to hear GIF and nacho's opinion on varsoon, in particular compared to his first game here. I had a look at varsoon's meta, I think this differes from his town game, but since nacho was a vet in varsoon's first noob game here, maybe nacho will be able to read his meta better than I will. GiF was the winning scum in that game, so his opinion on how he reads varsoon would be interesting too.-
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Here's a link for nacho and GiF... http://www.forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopi ... 11&t=25954
One difference in particular I was looking for in varsoon's noob game was his reaction to town accusations.
Here's an example...
This is sincerity at its most blatant. I see none of that here. It took a long time for varsoon to acknowledge why he might appear scummy to people in this game. He has defended with insults and deflected with weak return attacks. This is in stark contrast to his attempts in his first game, where he defends with honesty and humility.In post 92, Varsoon wrote:I don't blame you for thinking I'm scummy. I guess my noobishness is showing, I thought that encouraging people to chat a lot would be a good way to foster communication for town.
Varsoon is scum.-
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I don't like the use of the term "mob mentality", it seems like he's appealing to fear, implanting ideas into town thought process. My case on varsoon mustered up one vote, hardly mob mentality. This stinks of an attempt to nip this wagon in the bud before it takes off.In post 2055, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Varsoon, I think you're scum at this point, but honestly, I think a lot of it is mob mentality-
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This isn't sitting right with me at all. MS has 37 posts, I joined this game under a week ago and I'm up to 59 already. Up to this point, MS has had literally nothing to say about varsoon except "town" and "strong town". There's no explanation of how he has reached this conclusion. If MS is town, wouldn't you expect him to consider that maybe he's wrong about varsoon? To those townies here, how many of you read my case on varsoon with an open mind? I expect all of you. MS didn't. He's refusing to budge on varsoon, depsite being largely inactive.
If his reads are strong enough for him to hard defend, then he is actively lurking the hell out of this game.
And if his reads are not strong enough, then he is acting very anti-town by asking me to back off varsoon.
MS is scum. This is too easy.-
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Believe me, strong town blocks like this are scum's biggest nightmare. They're forced to infiltrate or allow town to be directed by them. And infiltrating is very difficult. I get a sense that perhaps this is what 2 has attempted, but he hasn't shaken off scum reads. It kinda reminds me of my masons game, where we had a town block of me, DJD and malakittens, and we owned the shit out of the scum. They just couldn't influence the wagons like we could.
I'm more than happy to sit back and allow a town bloc of orc, nacho, b2b and mac run this one. I kinda feel like a suicidal front line guy with an AK and a belt of grenades. I'll put my opinions out there, but I know full well I'll be voting in line with these four by the end of the day.-
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