"This guy?" Who are you referring to?In post 2148, TiphaineDeath wrote:this guy.
I didn't, in any way, shape or form state they were scummy.In post 2151, Mac wrote:I see Ghost; didn't get a pedit. However the point still stands, surely you should find them null instead of scummy if there is literally nothing pinging your scumdar?
and mollie, why is Majiffy so quiet? I'd expect him to be preaching about how scummy I am by now.
I know I've been away for some pages, but I'm going to catch up with posts now.In post 1914, Varsoon wrote:It's interesting that both sides of 2 didn't say anything when I asked who they thought was scum.
They didn't mind quoting other posts of mine, though.
It's a somewhat important term in developmental psychology too. I've used it in one of my papers ;DIn post 1923, Nachomamma8 wrote:you said that word and i loved it because it explains so much
Metal, could you give explanations for your reads? From reading your posts I'm under the impression that they are made up ad hoc merely to give others the impression that you're active and that you're reading the thread when you actually aren't.In post 1925, Metal Sonic wrote:andrius town
broseidon leaning town
ghoslin leaning town
2, nacho varsoon cabd strong town
This does look town-motivated. TD was also the one noticing Metal's infamous 1-min read IIRC. Will talk this over with f.In post 1930, TiphaineDeath wrote:Third paragraph of 1785 is a scum claim.
He's making himself sound unthreatnening, pandering to town interest, after forgetting that his counterpart claimed tracker/miller he is now making sure that all take notice. There is just so much subtle deflection in this post it does the opposite for me.
The paragraphs above are saying wifom is ok and not a big deal while at the same time inspiring a whole load of it is also bad. These kind of tactics are the same i often use as scum to great effect, thus I can spot them.
"happy to try" "Prove my alignment" "curious" these words are still in the, "look at me I am a happy team playing townie" vein of speech. While maintaining the stance that he's not angry at anyone who thinks he is scum.
1793 is more of the same.
"Simply hoping you'd save me the bother"
"form my own read"
Every word out of this mans mouth is trying so damned hard to be town he cannot possibly be.
I am completely certain that MS is scum, however given that no on else is I'll lift my vote on him to vote reverend, I maintain that anytime anyone wants to vote ms I'll be right there with them.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: reverend
You were probably right about him -_-.In post 1932, Nachomamma8 wrote:And let's talk about TD some more because his recent posts are really really town even though I don't necessarily agree with them.
What do you mean with the bolded part?In post 1934, TheReverend wrote:Nah I'm not self voting. You're wrong TD.You'll see my flip soon enough.
Could you elaborate on the supposed lack of opportunism? What I see is a whole bunch of arbitrary reads thrown out there to make us think he's actually reading the thread. I think he'd do this every time he's scum and sometimes when he's town.In post 1944, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sort of liked this post because it was a connect with someone else who trolls around a lot.
In post 757, Metal Sonic wrote:nacho town
freezerguy town
orc town
vassoon town
beautybeast town
mac town
tiphaine scum
sven trollIn post 1153, Metal Sonic wrote:varsoon still town
cabd quite town
ghostlin leaning town
rach town
sajin leaning town
aj the epic leaning scum
broseidon leaning scum too i guessIn post 1388, Metal Sonic wrote:I'll give reasons after the posting dies down. 50 pages(1000+ posts) in 72 hours, please no its torturous
2 getting scummier
aj leaning town now
ghostlin town
mac stil town
reverend a+ slip contradiction strong
beast leaning town
andrius town
also good luck with reading john or whoever had to read 50 pages
cabd and guy in freezer very town right nowIn post 1394, Metal Sonic wrote:ok i just iso'd tiphaine
except for #901
the rest of his posts are shit
yep scum
VOTE: TiphaineDeathWhat I see here is a blatant, blatant lack of opportunism. I think scum in Ms's position would be a *tiny* bit opportunistic, but nope.In post 1925, Metal Sonic wrote:andrius town
broseidon leaning town
ghoslin leaning town
2, nacho varsoon cabd strong town
Why is complaining about the pace of the game alignment indicative? The only thing I can think of is that scum metal perhaps would not do the complaining when he's also faking reads because that would create attention on the fact that he's faking his reads, but that's really stretching it.In post 1946, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 757, Metal Sonic wrote:I skimmed the whole 700 page of wallIn post 1153, Metal Sonic wrote:god damn 16 pages in 8 hoursIn post 1388, Metal Sonic wrote:I'll give reasons after the posting dies down. 50 pages(1000+ posts) in 72 hours, please no its torturousThis is definitely the feel of a townie who is struggling to keep up with the thread. I can see scumSonic left behind in thread and annoyed about it, but I'd expect him to use being behind as a bit of an excuse, but he hasn't at all ever. He just complains because the game goes too fast.
From what I can tell, there is a lot of thought behind this post. I havn't been paying close attention to f and Nacho's talk regarding AJ, but he'd have to be a really good scum player for this to not be town-indicative in my opinion.In post 1978, Aj The Epic wrote:I'm not going after you, though. If Nacho continues to believe your scum, he has some reading to do yet.
If Nacho remembers, the reason I got a hydra with him in the first place is because I have issues in large games. This is how I play large games, I try to find one or two people and go from there because I can't manage all 20 in my head. This is why I'm going after one at a time. In a 9 player game, i can find scum easily because I have an easier working to go through. I think in pictures and visuals so generally I look for a web of connections. That's a challenge in a 20 player game. (And it doesn't work when half the game is quiet). That's why I tunnel.
Bro, you skimming or scum? You missed a ton of points I expected you to find and hit recently. (This is what separates Andrius to Bro... Andrius is actually catching the main points).
2 is town. That last discussion with nacho cemented it. Nacho, your points were almost mirrored. Get over it, that read is wrong.
TmT is scum. Everyone knows it.
MS is still not useful if not scum. He needs to at least admit to not reading anything.
Actually, Rach is more town than anything to me. One thing I notice from a lot of games is scum wait until their target posts to vote for the target player. Rach didn't do that, which suggests a more certain freedom in action. That's more town than anything else.
(It's pretty obvious that some of Nacho's town reads are right, including Cabd, Mac)
B&B is town. The 'empathetic mollie' does not exist here. That alone is enough, but they've also got a good synergy and their reads generally seem to add up to what the other thinks. Synergy in a hydra is a towntell especially when posting independently because it means they're actually looking.
Varsoon can drop back down the ladder again. He wants me to be scum, is unhappy with my play, but sheeped me on my first post. He still hasn't played all that solid and he almost drew in Rev to be modkilled.
I like Ghostlin. I don't know what problem you guys have with him, but his posts play better than a lot of people's posting. They've gotten better, are more in touch, and he also agrees with me on TmT (which is, of course, immediate town points).
Sajin is town, has been that way forever.
This is what leads me to believe that scum is simply lurking. Bro, TmT (Both my major scum reads) are lurking. This is a common theme for many not on my list. Lurking. It's not the people posting (but perhaps Varsoon) that are scum so much as those who can't post anything worth reading.
Mac, why are you reading us as scum again? I've put aside my emotions and frustration and will do my best to walk you through any thought process related to posts that you think are scum indicative.In post 1991, Mac wrote:you & 2 are my strong scumreads.
This underlines my previous statement regarding AJ paying closely attention to the content of posts.In post 2004, Aj The Epic wrote:Isn't it Mollie who always says "Town thinks/moves in groups"? Or something cheesy like that? I personally don't believe it, but hey. Your points were both very similar, but at the same time different in small aspects. You're thinking on the same wavelength as Nacho unless you basically c/p'd the post he had, and I doubt you did that given the comments after.In post 2002, ² wrote:hehIn post 1978, Aj The Epic wrote:2 is town. That last discussion with nacho cemented it.Nacho, your points were almost mirrored. Get over it, that read is wrong.
that is not and should not be a point that pushes his read of us townward.
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Could you explain this a bit more?In post 2008, TheReverend wrote:I'm reading varsoon's ISO and I'd like to rephrase that last comment...
varsoon is scum and it's obvious as shit.
Aw thanks, glad this isn't punctuated!
I mean what it says. I don't expect to be alive in this game for long. I was lazily defending vs TD, the "you'll see you're wrong soon" defence. I can't be btohered to fight my corner to be honest, I feel my time is better spent trying to scumhunt.In post 2160, ² wrote:What do you mean with the bolded part?
More fluffy questions. Again, it means exactly what it implies. I think varsoon is scum, I ISO him, as I read through, my scumread strengthens significantly. The language he uses. The manner in which he attacks people, and defends himself. The relentless townclaims. The shrugging off of awkward questions. Why don't you read his ISO and see if it becomes obvious to you?In post 2166, ² wrote:Could you explain this a bit more?
I find the 3rd last and last quote of post 675 to be the most convincing, but I'm not entirely sold. His play style reminds me of a style a guy in my very first game played. I thought he was scum and mistakingly pushed his lynch.
This is what I pointed out earlier when commenting on AJ's wall-post fwiw.In post 2018, ² wrote:but, that hilarious plan to post role PMs for comparison was...wow. hard to see that coming out of a scum team.
I expect others will be asking you about this in the subsequent posts.In post 2036, TiphaineDeath wrote:Wow, just wow.
vote varsoon
I hereby formally apologize rev, I think I was wrong about you.
Rev, would you not agree that his shift to varsoon could also be an opportunistic one? I didn't like the "Wow, just wow" comment, it didn't look particularly sincere to me.In post 2039, TheReverend wrote:I have TD as town because his attack at me felt genuine. He might just have fooled me, sure, but I'm sticking with him in town pile for now, especially with his shift to varsoon
This is how I feel about it and it hurts deep inside what I told Nacho wrt TD some posts ago.
In post 2171, ² wrote:Rev, would you not agree that his shift to varsoon could also be an opportunistic one? I didn't like the "Wow, just wow" comment, it didn't look particularly sincere to me.In post 2039, TheReverend wrote:I have TD as town because his attack at me felt genuine. He might just have fooled me, sure, but I'm sticking with him in town pile for now, especially with his shift to varsoon
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The answer to your question is in the post of mine you quoted. I can't help feel your trying very hard to make it look like you're probing.In post 2039, TheReverend wrote:Cabd, you think TD is bussing varsoon here? I'd be more inclined to look at TD in the event of a varsoon town flip, though tbh I'd expect to die very fast if that were to happen. I have TD as town because his attack at me felt genuine. He might just have fooled me, sure, but I'm sticking with him in town pile for now, especially with his shift to varsoon. But if varsoon were to flip town, his vote would then be very opportunistic, and would rightly deserve scrutiny.
