Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Xisiqomelir]

@Xis, just to claify something else, when did me being open about the light green card become a town tell to you?

When I got my own. It's clear you were telling the truth about a ridiculous non-ability, which is pro-town to reveal since it would invite suspicion.

So you still had me a suspect when you investigated Jal?

I'd say you were a tie for 3rd with SafetyDance.

@Jake

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@ Xis - why investigate Baby night 1 instead of SC who you were more suspicious of?

Investigating Jal makes no sense either when mehndi or guile were better options.

I said earlier I saw a lurker/xis connection and this claim really sucks. You definitely made it seem like you caught someone when you started the day. Also your comment about nobody slipping makes no sense because you didn't have a guilty.

The only thing keeping me from voting you right now is because if you were scum, why make this claim like that?

My head hurts now

Mafia Theory, but I think it's better to clarify a more ambiguous read than go for a stronger one. I have adopted this consistently for the four investigations I've done on-site.

Discworld Mafia N1, I had Shamrock as top scumspect, but investigated Thor (who was NKed). I then voted Shamrock off the bat D2 and got him lynched (he was town)

Discworld Mafia N2, I had Cherry Nog as top scumspect, but investigated Calcifer and got a guilty.

N1 here, I suspected SC/Cheery most, but investigated Baby because of awkwardness over her "notebook". I voted SC to start the day, but then Monkey's defences unravelled.

Last night, in the end I decided that TBG leaving himself out of his own plan was scummier than Jal wanting to vig her co-wagoners, so I investigated Jal, planning on pushing TBG today.

The NK and investigation make this fairly straightforward for me. We still have the unresolved doc/did-not-doc 1v1 from Mehdi and SafetyDance, and then one of the neighbours is likely scum.

Currently, I'm stuck between you and Mhork. StrangerCoug's performance is weighing down heavily on you here, which I know you can't do anything about, but I consider the actions of former slotholders telling, as in the case of NumberQ/guille.

[Jal]

Sigh. Our best bet is NL and set up a security permeter around our townies.

[Jal]

Our "perceived" townies anyway. Force scum to remove a baddie town from the game.

[Lord Mhork]

@Mhork

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@Xis

What do you mean by end of quicktopic? That we both kinda suspect each other? Sure, I guess. It's more numbers, though, and the number of confirmed townies and obv towns leave little room for arguing there.

See below response to Cheery. More generally, what scumreads do you have?

You, Cheery, and Jake. Yay for PoE!
But yeah... I don't like your Jal investigation, remember? Also you had the purple card and Guille said to watch out for it.

And what do you mean by 'fair assessment'?

Is this accurately portraying your actions this game, or is it not?

pedit - The read of Medhi - not thinking Medhi should be vigged which I understood to be a townread, which happened near the deadline of day 2 - and then he was feeling conflicted of Mehdi in the neighbourhood. Being conflicted about someone I would have thought would make an okay vig kill, to solve having to read the troublesomeness of him. But the statement in thread was telling me Mhork had Mehdi as a town read. (Just checked it; 86% chance a list of people including Mehdi were town)I also didn't really see any attempts to actually read him better from Mhork yesterday anyway, just rejecting my theory that Mehdi was possibly a ninja was really the only talk about Mehdi he joined in with yesterday before he voted)

Sure, I guess. I had thought Medhi was town, but he was acting kinda scummy so I had no solid stance on him.

[Lord Mhork]

Sigh. Our best bet is NL and set up a security permeter around our townies.

Isn't that optimal play anyway?

[Jake from State Farm]

It's optimal play if you don't know who scum is.

[Lord Mhork]

K so, Jake, is the copping Jal thing what makes you think Xis is scum? Is there anything else?

[Jake from State Farm]

K so, Jake, is the copping Jal thing what makes you think Xis is scum? Is there anything else?

the whole thing about him getting a result on safety when nobody visited safety is pretty damning

[Lord Mhork]

I see.

Who actually has a town read on xis at this point?

[Cheery Dog]

Sure, I guess. I had thought Medhi was town, but he was acting kinda scummy so I had no solid stance on him.

86% chance of town sounds pretty solid to me.

But I have no idea why anyone ever puts their town reads in percentage form. and you've gone with Xis being scum now after he investigated Jal, which sounds to me almost as bad as the reason for him investigating Jal in the first place. - One small mistake is making someone scum.

VOTE: Mhork

[Lord Mhork]

Cheery, that doesn't make any sense. The percentage thing was a joke. How is finding him scummy after copping an obv town me looking scummy?

[Cheery Dog]

Cheery, that doesn't make any sense. The percentage thing was a joke. How is finding him scummy after copping an obv town me looking scummy?

It doesn't on it's own, but with me rereading that he was in your list of joke high percentages of people likely to be town, to which you also had Mehdi in and changed your mind on, I think you're just attempting to put points against him for need of someone to attack, even if I am still finding Xis odd myself, I'm finding you more likely to be scum.

So why wasn't Mehdi who you had no solid read on be a good vig choice for night 2?

[Lord Mhork]

I just realized that both possible scum teams have xis as a part of them.

VOTE: Xisquelomir

He was a good Vig choice 'cause he looked like he was purposely trying to make other people doubt their reads on him.

[Cheery Dog]

wait what?
I'm talking about this comment from you

I just know that Mehdi prolly shouldn't be shot, or Jal unless Monkey flips town, or Xis, or Brawly. I'm, like, 86% these guys are town.

[Lord Mhork]

Hehehe... You're silly, Cheery.

But let's put this 'me-scum' thing aside for a moment. Do you think that xis is town? 'cause jake made done pretty good points.

[Cheery Dog]

Hehehe... You're silly, Cheery.

But let's put this 'me-scum' thing aside for a moment. Do you think that xis is town? 'cause jake made done pretty good points.

I'm not going to ignore a scumread in MYLO, why would I do that?

[SafetyDance]

Busy day and I'm exhausted, will get back to this in the morrow *prod dodge*

[Lord Mhork]

Because I'm not scum? And unlease the team is you/jake, xis is obv scum?

[Cheery Dog]

I only have your word for that.

[Cheery Dog]

I'm not convinced that Xis is scum because he got a result on Safety, he would have done Safety was being watched, so faking a result when not actually visiting would just be stupid.

I think it's somehow one of the mods non-interaction things.

[Lord Mhork]

But what about the purple card? And the whole copping Jal was just ridiculous.

[Cheery Dog]

But what about the purple card? And the whole copping Jal was just ridiculous.

They're possible, why are you so upset that I'm voting you anyway?

[Xisiqomelir]

Sigh. Our best bet is NL and set up a security permeter around our townies.

Isn't that optimal play anyway?

I just realized that both possible scum teams have xis as a part of them.

VOTE: Xisquelomir

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But what about the purple card?

What about it? I received it last night. We all admit, I believe, that it does nothing. Please tell me why I'd hide it from town as any alignment.

And the whole copping Jal was just ridiculous.

I abide by this decision as well.

Question for you, Mhork: If I'm scum, how do you regard my investigation results?

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't beleive xis received the card last night, that means mehndi had it and he paid attention to this game more than others. I'm not buying the excuse that he forgot he had it.

Idk why anyone would keep that info secret except for possibly setting the people who had the purples.

As for the result on safety, he's obvious putting it in a 1 v 1 scenario and if you recall he tries to argue I was roleblocked which I say I wasn't. Why would he lie about the result? Idk but he's not pushing my lynch even though the evidence suggests its him or me. He'd rather NL and save his ass.

Also if cheery wasn't watched, why on earth would scum leave him alive?
IMO it's xis/cheery as scum. Cheery's vote on mhork makes no sense. Today's only options are xis, me, or NL. Cheery wanted to NL and instead votes mhork? Makes no sense.

[Lord Mhork]

But what about the purple card?

What about it? I received it last night. We all admit, I believe, that it does nothing. Please tell me why I'd hide it from town as any alignment.

Because it actually does do something awesomely scummy and you wanted to hide that fact? You having it means that Medhi was lying earlier, right? Why would he do that?

And the whole copping Jal was just ridiculous.

I abide by this decision as well.

Question for you, Mhork: If I'm scum, how do you regard my investigation results?

As safe bets to give the least amount of information possible to the town without looking like you're wasting our time? Seriously, who cops the uncc'd Vig?