The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

Claus · Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:31 pm

gee thanks guys ^^

Claus · Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:40 pm

By the way, the next patch will include a new ore and new structures. Do you guys want me to "delete" unused areas of the server so that we can find these closer to home, or do you prefer to go exploring futher away to find the new features?

Claus · Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:42 pm

In post 4914, theplague42 wrote:I fourth the deletion of unused areas.

In post 4913, Untrod Tripod wrote:delete unused areas plox

In post 4912, Xalxe wrote:Crop please?

In post 4911, Maruchan wrote:
yesplz. crop the unused map.

Welll -- if anyone could make a big screenshot of the current map (from the dynmap), and everyone collaborated making the areas that are "used", it would be easier for me to know which areas to crop. I got quite a busy weekend, so I leave this for you guys

In post 4915, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'm going to need to mine up a whole lot of gold and iron for the project and the actual building process will be really time-consuming, so if you're interested in helping/donating let me know.

Ping me when I'm online, I got a few stacks of gold/iron that I don't need.

Claus · Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:27 pm

Hey guys,

I have gotten a few requests for extra warps. My position at the moment is that, no, I wont be adding more warps in the short term. If you want to build on a far or hard-to-reach place, that is a challenge that you put to yourself - you can always set your /home to your new place, or make a nether shortcut, or build in an "easier" place.

Really, the server is supposed to be "vanilla". Asking the op team for things will just make it less likely that I will add those things as temporary competition prize rewards in the future.

Claus · Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:14 pm

UT - I LOVED your garden.

As for the crop - indeed, emerald won't be that common. And you can get it by trading. I was more thinking on the lines of the new jungle and desert temples that might crop up.

But then again, I might just crop out the extreme legs that some explorers made

-- remember you guys have a VERY LAZY admin

Claus · Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:39 am

I like the roof detail

Claus · Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:54 pm

wow, you weren't kidding about the cake! Thanks!

Claus · Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:32 pm

Izak, what kind of error are you getting after the splash screen, mind to post the error messages?

Claus · Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:25 pm

In post 4974, Mist7676 wrote:yay! I should be joining you today or tomorrow in the server!

*as everyone barricades their doors*

princessdaisy is the name, what is the server?

Mist whitelisted.

Have you updated your java in the meanwhile? did you do any big updates on your computer?

Claus · Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:40 pm

Hey guys.

I'm thinking about adding some markers to our dynamic map. I tried setting up the plugin so that marks could be automatically added by putting up plaques with some specific codes, but that is not working. So just PM me the coordinates and description of the marker, and I will manually add them to the map. Please do it through PM (to not clog up the thread).

Thanks!

Claus · Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:58 am

Hey guys!

1- I started to change one of the villages in our map to be a Testificate megalopolis! If anyone is interested in helping, feel free to hop on and modify the village. The number of testificates is directly related to the number of "valid doors" in a radius around the city. A valid door is one where the number of "covered tiles" between the inside and the ouside of the door are different. If you find this complicated to understand, just follow the examples that I have already built there -- our you can prettify the existing NPC buildings, or build a small house+beds around the nether portal, etc.

2- I took some pictures of the construction process:

http://imgur.com/a/EurDU#0

3- To get to the testificate village, go to the blaze farm, and take the path leaving from there -- right now there is not a path actually - just follow straight until you find the portal -- if anyone would like to build a path and a portal house in the nether, that would be great!

4- added some markers to the map

Claus · Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:49 am

Door/village !!SCIENCE!!

http://www.reddit.com/tb/vcjzf

Also, walling it off is cool, but dont worry too much about it - if there are less villagers than 1/3 * doors, villagers will start spawning again, it seems

Claus · Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:43 pm

Done, welcome!

Claus · Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:35 pm

The "daily" worldmap is not being updated anymore. The new host is messing with my automated backups, and I'm having to copy the backups over manually. If you want, I can give you a link to the most recent backup so you can make an image of the world map yourself

Claus · Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:08 am

Well, like I said in the post where I took the pictures of the Testificate Village:

Sometimes, when walking from point A to point B, you pass through places and see things that you didn't see before. So the points of a overworld powered rail, even when we have /home and /back, can be:

- Making an asthetically pleasing building
- Challenging yourself to gather the materials and make the gargantuan project
- make a route that can be used to see some nice views

In an previous single player world, I had a nice "finger" like mountain with a tower built on top of it, and with some rail spinning around the mountain to the tower. It would be much simpler and easier to make a simple back and forth rail inside the mountain, but the rail outside gave me great views of the mountain ranges nearby. (it was also fun to try and snipe mobs far away from the moving minecart).

Claus · Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:37 pm

Actually, I just condensed the map to a radius of 800 around 0,0.
Have fun!

Claus · Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:22 pm

Uh. That was a joke (whooosh?).

If I cropped the map at a 800 radius from 0,0, most of the interesting constructions of the server would have been kaput.

I just forgot about whe whole cropping thing, to be honest.

Claus · Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:23 pm

ms.seion.us:8321 is working purrfectly. What is not working anymore is conclave.cs.tsukuba.ac.jp/MS-MC

Claus · Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:54 pm

I have your drawings saved - I will probably revisit the idea of cropping the idle parts once 1.3 is out. No point in doing it before then.

Claus · Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:17 pm

yup, server still seems to be down. Corin is performing maintenance on the server. I will let you guys know when it is back up.

Claus · Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:18 pm

Also, maru: Not really interested in hosting a second server, but thanks for the offer!

Claus · Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:17 pm

Server is back online.

Claus · Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:59 pm

In post 5288, Om of the Nom wrote:Modifying the file directly isn't patching. I would consider replacing the file or using another program to modify it as patching.

uuuh. Modifying an executable file directly is the textbook definition of patching

Izak, what kind of piston design are you looking for?

Claus · Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:54 pm

In post 5362, izakthegoomba wrote:Also: a Raw Fish enchanted with Sharpness enchantment.level.100 appears to do only punching damage to the Enderdragon, but will one-shot anything else except small Magma Cubes.

!! Science !!

Claus · Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:41 pm

JDGA, are you still have troubles conecting?

izak: Server seems to be up now.

Claus · Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:27 am

Xalxe, when was the last time that you were on? Some awesome buildings were built. A testificate village was founded.

Claus · Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:44 am

So... it seems that we might see 1.3 next week

release candidate should be released later this week.

Claus · Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:44 pm

1.3

Claus · Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:59 pm

In post 5577, Kcdaspot wrote:after an investigation im not letting m little bro on the ms server again.

sorry claus

O.o? What did he do?

Claus · Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:30 am

In post 5590, CJMiller wrote:Whitelist me please.

IGN: Ketsuban

Added to the whitelist. Good thing you guys seem to be solving your problems while I'm away

Claus · Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:53 pm

In post 5650, Xalxe wrote:
In post 2290, Claus wrote:Awesome

I'll be updating this once a day. Have fun!

Reiterating my request to have this in the OP.

This is not updated once a day anymore, now that we have this:

http://ms.seion.us:8321

Claus · Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:56 pm

The server is not down.

Claus · Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:17 am

In post 5669, izakthegoomba wrote:Well, I can't access it. Maybe try restarting it?

Weird... you seemed online... you guys should PM me when this happens

anyway, preparing to update the server to 1.3.1 right now.

Claus · Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:43 am

1.3.1 online ^^ enjoy the cocoa plants and the trading Testificates!

Claus · Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:15 pm

added

Claus · Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:54 pm

Hey guys. It seems that Bukkit for 1.3.1 is out. I probably will have the time to install it either friday or sunday.

Cheers!

Claus · Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:54 pm

So, yeah, I was lazy and didn't do it this weekend. I didn't even read the forums this weekend

(So, if you need me for anything, PM is a surer way, since I get an e-mail notification on PMs).

Sure, I'm not in a hurry to bukkit up our server (although dynmap was fun).

Claus · Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:53 am

Done! I don't know why it was on easy for so long - I guess I forgot about it.

BEWARE! Mobs do a bit more damage right now

Claus · Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:52 pm

Yeah, that is extremely cool for the maps -- I always wanted to fill a wall with contiguous maps since they were first announced. Being able to frame other items is a bonus.

Claus · Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:05 pm

Hey guys,

As a heads up, I'm leaving for a trip from the 20th to the 10th. I will still be kinda connected to the internet, but I will be very spottly checking on the thread. If you need me for anything, please PM me.

To make up for it (and for the lack of dynmap) I've updated the old map:

http://conclave.cs.tsukuba.ac.jp/MS-MC

Cheers,

Claus · Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:39 pm

In post 5837, izakthegoomba wrote:HOLY CRAP THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT

WE HAVE... WALLS!

Spoiler:

Cool, but notch must be rolling in his grave

(well, not grave, but you get the idea).

Claus · Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:35 am

Nom is complaining of heavy lag on the server. Is anyone else having the same problem?

Claus · Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:54 am

In post 6136, Maestro wrote:
In post 6135, izakthegoomba wrote:He's an op, he can /give or /gamemode himself.

LAME.

LAME.

Claus · Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:20 pm

I hear you. Will look into that.

Claus · Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:43 pm

Server is back up, thanks for waiting guys! (should be much faster next time).

Claus · Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:43 pm

Also, with Buckit, Essentials, dynmap and the shebang:
http://ms.seion.us:8321/

Claus · Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:07 pm

It always did

Claus · Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:34 pm

1- No idea, maybe. Someday I'll look into it.
2- Give me the coords for the arena, and I'll do it.
3- type /warp without comment, and it will tell you.

Claus · Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:13 am

The easiest way to make sure a portal will take you where you want is to build the portals in the appropriate locations in Both worlds.

Overworld location: X, Y
Nether location: X/8, Y/8

If you build both portals (and activate them), they will take to each other without fail.

Claus · Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:06 pm

Xalxe -- Awesome idea with the Video! Make sure to include the "red panda" ruins and the jungle temple

Claus · Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:29 pm

So, if anyone ever feels like playing single player, here is an awesome seed:

http://imgur.com/a/UdYsj

Claus · Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:36 pm

In post 6575, Fishythefish wrote:Lots of recent building (ie. route to desert temple) in the nether seems to have vanished? Overworld stuff done at the same time still around. Could this be something to do with bukkit update?

Hmmmm, It is possible. Fortunately, I backed up everything just before the update. But I have no time right now to restore the nether backup and check if everything is correct. Maybe I will have some time sunday, if you guys want to try it. Until then, try not to build on the nether too much.

Fishy, send me a PM on sunday if you want to help me check it out

Claus · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:08 pm

PSA: Don't build in the nether. I will try to restore from last week's backup this sunday.

Claus · Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:15 pm

Ok, so I'm planning to restore the nether backup now. Can anyone give me an idea of a place that was lost in the nether due to the Bukkit activation, so that I can check if I restored the backup correctly?

Cheers,

Claus · Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:16 pm

Reck -- If you want, I can teleport you and Grimm to an un-explored, remote area of the server, so that you will have a more "unspoiled" experience, while still being able to talk to people and join then if you want to.

Unlike Terraria, Minecraft's world is infinite, so you can just move away if some area is overdeveloped.

Claus · Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:06 pm

Hey Guys.

Please let's be reasonable when it comes to exploring. The world size was 500Mb last weekend when I made a backup and installed bukkit, and now it is 700Mb. The size is still not that bad, but if it keeps increasing at this rate, I will be forced to start clipping the world.

So if you just want to go to somewhere far way, take the nether. You will generate much less chunks than by taking a large sea voyage.

Claus · Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:12 pm

Anyway, making a backup of the world now. I identified the nether problem. Some people lost from two weeks up to two months of work on the nether. Ouch. I will be resetting the nether to the state it was on Sept 22nd when the backup is done (about 3 hours from now). If you want to mine some glowstone, now is the time

Claus · Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:31 am

Reck: There isn't a lot of "Terraria-like" content, like world bosses or multiple tiers of gears, or anything like that. Minecraft is much more about building.

There are some hidden structures to find (temples, dungeons, etc), and as Om mentioned, one world boss. But you end up setting up most of your goals, like building roads, castles or complex machines using redstone.

Claus · Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:32 am

Also, I finished backing up the server, and I'm taking it down to try and reset the nether to how it was last weekend. Wish me luck

Edit: Done. Let me know if anything went horribly, horribly wrong.

Claus · Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:53 pm

In post 6730, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 6715, Om of the Nom wrote:To mine obsidian you need a diamond pick (also in case you don't know yet, obsidian can be made when you put water over a lava source block (so not flowing but standing still basically). The only boss right now is the Enderdragon, but in 1.4 there will be a new boss mob called the Wither boss (or something like that).

I could not figure out how to generate obsidian. It just kept turning into stone

The dynamics of water and obsidian follow some rules:

Liquids, in Minecraft (lava and water) come as two kinds of blocks: Source blocks, and Flow blocks.

Source blocks are the ACTUAL lava/water blocks, the blocks that you can pick up and place with a bucket.
Flow blocks are the blocks that are generated by source blocks. You cannot pick up Flow blocks with a bucket.

When any water (source or flow) touches a lava SOURCE block, obsidian is generated.
When any water (source or flow) touches a lava FLOW block, stone or cobblestone is generated (depending on the position of the water and lava).

Note that whether water or lava is "moving" or not makes NO DIFFERENCE. Source blocks may appear moving under certain conditions.

Claus · Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:21 pm

So, I just found out about a neat cool program for people who want to be spoiled a bit, but not too much: AMIDST

Amidst will generate a minecraft biome map from a seed or save game, so that you can see landmasses, biomes and villages without generating those chunks. It is very handy for exploration, so you don't get lost at sea lookign for a new landmass, or to find where is the nearest large desert. Worth checking out!

(PS: the biome generation varies widely between minecraft versions, but the landmass generation has stayed constant for a while -- biomes shown by amiss might be different from those in older chunks in our world, but the continents are quite accurate)

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:01 pm

In post 6843, Maestro wrote:but Claus made some comments a little while back - try and stay close to others because the server's getting huge.

Hey guys, just to make my "server is getting huge" comment clearer.

The thing that makes a world bigger in Minecraft is not how far apart people are from each other, but how many chunks are generated. So it is not so much a problem of you living somewhere remote, but of the many many useless sea chuncks that are generated when you do. If you really want to find new land, I would suggest going through the nether, since that generates 1/8th of the land.

Why is it a problem if the server gets too big, though? Well, the real practical problem is backup problem. If each world is a 700Mb beast, it limits how many backups I can keep on my hard disk at the same time (maybe I should buy a Minecraft dedicated hard disk

), also, it means that making backups takes longer (right now it takes about 4 hours for me to download a backup from the server).

Anyway, if I ever decide to clip the world, there are plenty of unused sea chunks to be axed first, so don't worry yet!

By the way, if you are building in the middle of nowhere in the sea, make sure that your building is clearly visible from dynmap - a big flag or somehting. If you want to build an indetectable secret base, I suggest doing it under a land mass

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:13 pm

Oh, and I'm upgrading chevre's contest (because I love building contests).

The winner of the contest, besides whatever prize Chevre gives, will also get one week of Fly-mode in the server! The week can be redeemed any time between when the winner is announced, an December 31st. Just send me a PM.

If the winner is a mod of the server, the highest placed non-mod winner will get this prize.

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:14 pm

In post 6878, Hinduragi wrote:The only big downside of that is you would need a lot of obsidian and you're going to make a lot of portals that just end up on small little 4x4 islands, which there's a lot of out there. It would take even longer to do it that way due to how many different places you might end up.

Hmmm. That is true. Well, let me know before doing any big sea expeditions, so I can check for server size and prune the useless sea chunks as necessary.

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:46 pm

Reck, about slime:

Non-spoilery:
Slimes appear deep underground (under depth 20), in wide open spaces. They are very rare.

Spoilery

There are specific chunks where slimes can be generated. If you google "minecraft slime finder", you will find many webpages that can list such chunks based on your seed. After finding a slime chunk, carve a large room, at least 3 blocks high, and keep it well lighted. Slimes will eventually spawn there, even though they are still rather rare.

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:47 pm

Klazam -- come play on the server!

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:20 pm

Reck:
- I think the seed number is displayed when you press "F3", if not, I will try to find it later.
- The cap is based mostly on the memory capacity of the server. I can upgrade it if needed, but I don't think we reach that cap that often. It seems to me that we have at most 5-6 people online on very busy days.

Claus · Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:32 pm

That looks pretty impressive Reck, good job! I think the fiery pathway may look better with fire than lava (we see lava all the time in builds).

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:36 am

In post 6921, Hinduragi wrote:
Non-ops can't see it. I tried when Reck asked me ingame. Also, when you guys do get the seed, can you list the warps with /warp. The bukkit permissions for that aren't set up so that we can see it either.

Ah, I did the "/warp" thing on purpose. It allows some "secret" warps to be created

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:17 am

We *can* have secret warps... not that we *have* them.

But if one day you find a chest in the middle of the forest, with a book with strange words in them...

Just saying.

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:42 am

I'm not sure if that is the case, because I did not remove the configuration files when I re-installed essentials....... I will check it out later today, thanks for the suggestion!

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:55 am

Huh, you're right. Lava, TNT, etc were blacklisted. Funny, I remember going through the config file the first time I installed essentials, and I don't remember those being there.

You should be able to place lava now. Also, fire will spread again - take care!

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:36 am

In post 6934, Fishythefish wrote:I still can't seem to place lava.

Forgot to reboot the server after fixing the options. Oooops. Done

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:59 pm

If you make the floor of the maze glass, and put lava everywhere under the maze, it will be REALLY hard to tell if there is a hole in a given corridor or not. In the first Mafiascum server I had a house with a "glass over lava" floor. Someone once broke just one of the glass blocks, and it became a ninja deathtrap.

Just saying.

Claus · Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:33 pm

I think the end sign can be modified by anyone. It is just a normal sign, right? I will try out your maze later tonight and populate it with prizes, if Xalxe/Izak don't do it before me.

Claus · Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:51 pm

In post 7018, xRECKONERx wrote:any idea when 1.4 is dropping?

The plan is to release 1.4 on October 24th.

Claus · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:37 am

Wow, loved the ravine village story

Good Job fixing it up!

Also, I've just spent some time reading up the updates for 1.4.

Maps are being completely overhauled!

Crafting a map creates an empty map. The empty map can be activated, by right clicking it, or left as is.

You can clone a map by crafting an active map with any number of empty maps.

Also, you can "increase" an active map by crafting it together with 9 sheets of paper. This makes the map "zoom out". There are 5 zoom levels, from 128x128 blocks up to 2048x2048 blocks.

Also, you can FINALLY put maps on walls using frames.

Wowzers!

Claus · Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:09 am

I thought that the babies were random - a new villager baby could become any kind of villager (with a given probability)

Claus · Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:17 am

In post 7034, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 7031, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 7028, Om of the Nom wrote:At least I tried to protect the villagers from the zombies lol.

You failed terribly. You can't imagine how bad those holes are up close. Klazam was up there too. It was so bad he instantly noticed some houses got creepered
twice
.

Uhhh, if the creeper holes are the only reason the villagers got killed then it means I was pretty successful at protecting them
from the zombies.

Technically correct, always the best kind.

Claus · Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:18 pm

Vinelands is at -40k, -15k from spawn. When I used to build railways back in the old server, simply a 1K railway was already a huge headache.

Maybe make a nether path + railway first?

Claus · Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:46 am

In post 7114, Rhinox wrote:
In post 7064, Xalxe wrote:But the point of SPAWNTOWN is to have a place close to SPAWN for people to build in and start in. There's shit all around the town. Why move to another town that newbies will have to get to by figuring out how warps work? Easier to just expand the walls like I suggested.
It would be cooler to just add more walls around the current walls rather than tearing down walls and moving them farther out. It'd be like, different districts or something. Rings on an old tree.

I made this suggestion a long time ago, and I support it wholeheartedly. It would be beautiful, in an procedural kind of way

Claus · Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:53 pm

XD Hey guys, no need to make a storm over it. I used not to like "zzzzz" either, but you get used to it quite quickly

Claus · Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:25 pm

When I played, we didn't even have cubes - we had to make our structures with lines, and we liked it!

Claus · Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:47 pm

In post 7157, UltimaAvalon wrote:
Remember when Spawn was 3 blocks underground?

That was the third Mafiascum world right? The one before the current one?

That was fun

Claus · Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:33 pm

Reck: your pumpkin/melon farm is all dirt, right? It could have been an enderman

Claus · Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:01 pm

They can't. But they can spawn in dark areas and then teleport to brightly lit ones.

Claus · Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:03 pm

I suggest making a "Wither Arena" in a well secluded area in the Nether, so that people don't go summoning it near anything important

Claus · Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:13 pm

So,

1- It was not Jackal - he has not logged since September 22. I'm going through the logs and backups to try to find out who it was.
2- I have added "chest protection" to the server using Lockette ([edited]). See the tutorial here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VcU_ZPgF0E

(I did not allow the locking of doors, just chests).

I REALLY didnt want to add this to the server (no idea how it will interact with backups), but I simply don't have time to go all CSI with the new players.

Have fun.

Claus · Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:13 pm

Hiraki. That kind of comment is extremely frowned upon. There are few things I hate more than internet drama.

Claus · Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:29 pm

Maruchan: Sure. Lockette hasn't been updated since august, though. I will look through those.

Claus · Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:04 pm

Ok, I've changed the locking plugin from essentials to Lockette, on Maru's suggestion. Please try it out and let me know how it goes. The tutorial is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VcU_ZPgF0E

Use it at its own risk: Remember that the plugin might be deactivated for a few days when we move to 1.4 next week. Anything REALLY sensitive should be put in ender chests.

Claus · Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:57 pm

Xalxe! I look forwards to the server Video

Claus · Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:14 pm

Wow, Ourathanos looks amazing! Is that on our server?

Claus · Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:17 pm

In post 7360, mikehart wrote:Can I get my son whitelisted? He just got a new pc and his own account cause he wants to play online. He is only 10 but he can handle himself and follow the rules of no griefing/stealing. I understand if some feel that may be too young for the server and id be ok with whatever decision is made. But the idea is attractive to me because at least ill know he's in a safe, friendly, and helpful server. His ign is countblack00

Added, welcome!

Claus · Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:39 pm

Reck - Send me a message with the times you want to check, and I can tell you. It is actually super easy to do that.
I have half a mind to temporarily un-whitelist everyone who logs on the server but doesn't bother to post on this thread, with the all the recent incidents.
Unfortunately, I am really busy at work until the end of the month, so anything too complicated will have to wait.

Also:
1.4.1 is coming out tomorrow (frames! zombie testificates! Anvils! Half walls!). Do you guys want to upgrade as soon as the new version hit, or do
you prefer to wait until bukkit is out? (this is not a vote). Cheers!

Claus · Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:22 pm

In post 7442, Untrod Tripod wrote:wait! don't unwhitelist IUsuallyThink, we're still building together

In post 7441, Maestro wrote:(Ummm, except for Mike's son right? .....since he, you know, can't post? )

Don't worry, I still have to think it through how exactly I want to implement this rule. Since I'm really out of time this month, I will try to think about it during the weekend.
Of course there will be some sort of exception if you have someone to vouch for you on the thread in your place.

In post 7441, Maestro wrote:
P.S. @Reck/Claus: I'm pretty sure that things like dropped items and flora/fauna growth are only registered by the game when the chunks are loaded.

Of course. Also items like eggs de-spawn after 5 minutes, so I'm not overly worried about that part.

Claus · Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:45 pm

1- Awesome costume!
2- I'm not too big on putting player-requested spawners, or using wither heads as prizes
3- On the other hand, some simpler mob eggs (zombie/village eggs? no creepers) could be a nice prize.

Cheers

Claus · Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:09 pm

So, I had this great idea: "de-whitelist people who are not posting". Well, guess what? there is simply no one who logged in the month of October who has not posted in the thread within three days of their last log in.

So all these "stealing and missing stuff" is either one of you guys doing it. Or one of you guys getting creepered near each other's place and not owning to it. Which is quite disgusting, to be frank. It is a damn virtual game, how hard is it to say "sorry, I got creepered near XY's place and I don't have the resources to fix it". I would probably just creative in the fix anyway.

I will look into "blocklogger" mods, but to be quite honest, I'm this close to just handing the server to someone else, because I have no interest into putting time and money into this kind of shit.

Claus · Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:10 pm

Hikari/KDCA -- To be quite honest, I'm of the mind that teleportation, /home, etc are unnecessary luxuries. I would have switched to 1.4 in a heartbeat if it were not for the fact that apparently now our community is dependent on chest protection plugins.

Claus · Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:44 pm

Mist: No need. Once I install the logging plugin (just waiting for the backup to finish), it should be possible to know exactly who touched a given chest at a given time.

Claus · Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:50 pm

CoreProtector installed. Now can we please stop messing with other people's stuff?

Izak, it does better than that: you can filter interactions with a block by player, time, everything. It is lovely. I will send you and Xalxe a PM with details on how it work. (or better yet, can you log on, so I can show you?)

Claus · Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:18 am

The chest-touchers and inventory voyeurs need not to worry. Looky Looky but no Touchy! (Oh my that was terrible

)

Claus · Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:32 pm

That is a pity. I thought the mod prize would make more people interested in participating. Still, that creeper is awesome!

Maestro, you get *1 week* of free flying in the server, redeemable until December 31st! PM me when you want me to activate your prize!

Claus · Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:04 am

What is the difficulty level, Chevre? If I'm not mistaken, infection chance increases with difficulty.

Claus · Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:45 pm

If I were less busy/lazy, I would build ships in Spawntown's bay, or maybe some balloons! How about that?

Claus · Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:02 pm

Is it okay guys if I change the water in the well for lava then? Should fix this "only die 50% of the time" problem

Claus · Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:03 pm

In post 7784, Pizzadudes7 wrote:
In post 7783, Xalxe wrote:I'm really good at smacking right onto the well on the spawntown warp.

^This

Also, it is literally 4 blocks from my house. GTFO mah house beeyotches!!!

Uh, the warp was there before your tower house was built, though :-/

Claus · Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:46 pm

What is bone's idea?

Can't we just make the well a bit bigger?

Claus · Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:39 am

In post 7839, Maruchan wrote:Until Claus makes a payment to the new host,

Stop right there Maru. The way you put it, it seems that I did not pay for some silly reason. I CANT do a new payment if the new host wont get their shit together.

1- Seion.us moved to another company. I was not informed, until I made the payment to seion.us last thursday, which came back, and Corin finally told me they were moving.
2- I asked our server to be moved as well. I made a new account in the new host, and asked if it was possible to make quarterly payments, as I used to do on Seion.
3- I was sent a 3-month invoice... except, that the price was for three months, but the date was for a single month.
4- IMMEDIATELY I sent a ticket asking for either an invoice with a correct date or, if not possible, a single month invoce. I'm still waiting for an answer.

So there it goes. The server is down because the host is fucking up with the invoice. Not because I "didnt pay something".

To add insult to injury, all of this took place while I was preparing for a week long work trip to Africa. I'm posting this from a shitty internet connection literally in the middle of nowhere.

New hosting suggestions are welcome.

Claus · Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:45 am

In post 7834, Moneybags wrote:
In post 7833, Xalxe wrote:Oy!

And we haven't updated because Bukkit hasn't updated yet.

I play a server that uses Bukkit that managed to update. They have a dev that knows what he's doing though so he might of figured out how to do it himself.

It is not a matter of "knowing what one is doing". Bukkit did not release a stable version for 1.4 yet. They are still fixing the 1.4-bukkit bugs. Anyone who wants can install these beta versions, but they are still bug hunting, so screwing up savegames is a real possibility.

So yeah, we are waiting for stable 1.4 releases of:
1- bukkit
2- coreprotect

Claus · Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:49 am

Oh wait... here is a message from them

"Oh, the invoice looks like monthly, but it really isn't".

Yeahhh.... that is not how money works.

Claus · Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:37 am

In post 7854, Maruchan wrote:But if you don't like BoN you can always go back to daddycheese, they are the next cheapest I have found.

I'm sorry if I was snappy Maru. It is just that this week has been rather "intense" for me.

I'm totally willing to give them a chance this month -- specially because I'm in no condition to go hosting hunting at the moment.

Cheers,

Claus · Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:05 pm

Sooo, since there is a high chance of me being eaten by lions in this next week, I'm handing over the server to Maru!

The king is dead, all hail the king!

Claus · Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:15 am

In post 8031, Maruchan wrote:
In post 8025, izakthegoomba wrote:You may want to keep them in a chest if you intend to use them for anything other than decoration. We can track chests, but not regular blocks.

i think he installed coreprotect which can track blocks, idk if its configured properly yet to do so, but i know it has the ability.

Yup, you should be able to track blocks the same way that you track chests. For easiest results, just put any block in place of the missing block and inspect it.

Claus · Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:16 am

Watching the bidding is fun

Claus · Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:05 pm

In post 8276, Mist7676 wrote:Hey guys, I should have been on earlier, but my house got ransacked ._. Getting on the server now to fix my other ransacked house THAT IS NOW FUDGING TNT

Do you mean RL house or server house? If server house, better not to touch it until one of the OPs can CSI the ransacked parts.

Claus · Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:19 pm

I was thinking of an event to hold on the server, if there is interest from enough people.

From nothing to riches

We get X people (at least 6) to go on the server at the same time. For an extended time (8 hours? 6 hours?) we try to build a castle/temple/whatever in a completely non-developed area. We decide the area and the general theme beforehand. Maybe even gather materials in preparation. Everyone should be contributing on the same construction, not simply constructing independent buildings on the same area. If any mods are available, they can record the progress, make a timelapse, whatever

Is there interest in this? I will (finally!) have a free weekend on the 1st and 2nd of December.

Claus · Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:42 am

<b>From Nothing to Riches</b>:
Claus
Izak
Xalxe
Klazan

Please send me a PM with windows (in GMT) that you would be free on the 1st and 2nd of December. I will try to arrange a good schedule for everyone involved

Claus · Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:35 am

Rags to Riches Building Event

** Update **

Goal: To make a community building from scratch, through a building mini-marathon: 4-8 hours of cooperative building on the server.

People interested in participating:
- Claus
- Izak
- Xalxe
- Klazan
- Tbone
- Rhinox
- UT
- Maru

Suggested times:

Since I didn't get many PMs with time suggestions, I will suggest three time windows below, and you get to vote which you are able/prefer. Please PM me with your preferred time window, and also if you could make it on any of the others.

Time Window A: Saturday, December 1, 0:00GMT to 8:00GMT
Time Window B: Saturday, December 1, 9:00GMT to 17:00GMT
Time Window C: Sunday, December 2, 0:00GMT to 8:00GMT

Suggested Places

I will investigate some virgin places on the server and post suggestions here later. If you could PM me with your preferred Biome (Forests, mountains, etc), I will take that into account. I should decide the place on wednesday next week at the latest, so that we can gather material there. (I will try to build a small shack with an enderchest nearby to make transportation easier).

Let's make this happen!

Claus · Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:41 am

Good idea! (The vineland one)

Claus · Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:45 pm

In post 8622, Maruchan wrote:
I hereby claim this island in the name of Blake/Maruchan

Sweet island! Lucky portal!

In post 8624, izakthegoomba wrote:Give it a good home. Or just have a blast griefing the shit out of the place. Hell, rip up my mountain for the cobble and dirt if you want to.

I'll lay a claim for his buildings as cultural patrimony of the server. Please don't grief them!

(go for the sweet loot, though. Gogogo!)

Claus · Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:45 pm

I just read Maru's "OP" post, and I think this is a storm in a cup of water. I'm a pretty vanilla guy, and I don't think most of what Xalxe has done is as bad as Maru posts it. I'm currently writing a longer post with my opinions about the issue, but it will take some time. (It would be oh so good next time you guys decided to stir drama, you did that on a non-working day

). Please stand by.

Claus · Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:22 pm

Hmmmm. My opinions on this

1- We certainly do not need many more OPs anymore. I was OP'd by UA because he needed someone to keep an eye on griefers. But now that we have core protect, all we need an OP for is to help with whitelisting, checking coreprotect logs, and sometimes fixing glitches.

2- We do need an OWNER, who will set down base rules, admin mods, and sometimes do helpful magic (like creative-only items for contest prizes, etc.)

3- I do think that the OWNER of the server should have the final say of the server rules. I understand what Maru's said about "this being MS's server", but as far as I'm concerned, small internet communities benefit from "benevolent dictator" systems. Also, I fully trust Maru to be this benevolent dictator. When he asked if he should host the server in my place, I did not accept that without thinking about it.

4- As far as rules for "OP cheating" goes, Maru as the owner of the server has the final world. The rules that I used were much more lax than what the angry comments in this thread seem to imply. I did not think that there is any problem in an OP/Owner using fly/TP and other movement related commands at will for monitoring user activity. I think that "creativing in" items would be cheating. I also think that the Owner should have the discretion to break this rules whenever he thinks it is necessary. Once someone (was it Nom? Pizza?) told me he was having a really shitty day, and wanted to blow up stuff. We located a very distant village, and I gave him some flying powers to explode it. I see nothing wrong with a server admin making snap decisions like that.

5- I'm strongly against the "Check and Balance" system of keeping good morals. To me it is a drama ticking bomb waiting to explode.

6- Chevre is awesome

Claus · Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:54 pm

In post 8695, izakthegoomba wrote:There were plenty of times when we would fly, or use creative, or use other powers somewhat frivolously. I'm pretty sure Claus was aware of it.

To be honest, no I was not aware. But that is my fault, because I was very very little online, and didn't have time to notice such things.

I largely agree with what Rhinox said. Specially with what he describes as the OP roles: fly and TP to check if everything is going smoothly, and using creative powers sparingly for rewards and such.

Claus · Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:09 pm

My suggestions:

Normal Players: /home, /warp <warpname>
What OP can normally use as players: Any transportation command (Fly, TP, tppos, top, jump, etc), /inspect
What Admins can use to do Adminy stuff/special cases/contests: All commands, except WorldEdit.
Also, I don't really think that we need World edit. That would go into the "very rare circunstance" maybe.

Reasoning: We should have an experience as close as vanilla as possible. Warps are grandfathered in because we have already used them to colonize far away places. Flying and Teleporting should be perks for OPs, but other than that they should play by the same rules as regular players. Still, there are exception for every rule, so all commands should be "available", just in case. Also, editing large parts of the world at once via WE is not really what the server is about, in my PoV.

------------------**------------------------

Also, rages to riches is happening this weekend! I'm sorry for the delay, but I'm having a super busy week. Will try to post exact time and locations tonight or tomorrow night. Please prepare your resources

(The location will probably be the cliffy island SE of vineland)

Claus · Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:21 pm

In post 8740, Maestro wrote:
In post 8736, Maruchan wrote:plus i hate ugly water

Of all the things you've admitted to doing with OP Sorcery, this is the one I would think would be most useful...
Oh my dear, dear friend "//fixwater" -
HOW I MISS YOU SO!

Be a man, fix every messed up water block MANUALLY.

(Not Joke -- not that hard)

Claus · Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:23 pm

In post 8739, Maestro wrote:P.S. @Claus/OP's: would it be alright for the winning team (and their amazing Mod) to get an on-server prize after the game is completed?

I don't really consider myself to be an OP anymore, but I think it would be more appropriate to build a monument for the winners on the server instead

Claus · Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:26 pm

In post 8736, Maruchan wrote:worldedit is only installed for the usability of Snapshots. You know rolebacks?

I think CoreProtect also offer some rollback commands, no? If I'm not mistaken, you can do an area-based rollback, or even a player-based rollback.

Claus · Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:52 am

From Rages to Riches!

Given the responses from the players, and the fact that the server is currently down, I've selected timeslot "C":

GMT (Sunday 2) 0:00-9:00, EST (Saturday 1) 19:00-3:00 -- It should be time enough for the server to be up

The selected location are the cliffs in the large island to the southwest of the vineland train station. I will try to build a small shack there with an Enderchest by Saturday.

The time window is pretty large so that everyone can try to be on a little at least part of the time

Let's see what we can build together! Will it be a glorious monument, or a chaotic patchwork?

If anyone could set up some sort of voice chat server for the event, it would be awesome.

Claus · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:27 pm

In post 8805, Chevre wrote:oh yeah I signed up for that kinda sorta

What do enderchests do anyway?

Enderchests work like a portable extra inventory. The contents of all enderchests is the same, for each player, across the server.

So, you can fill your enderchest with cobblestone in spawntown, and take out that cobblestone from another enderchest in vineland.

Very handy for connecting storage of construction materials with construction places. Just keep in mind that you need a silk touch pick to pick up an enderchest.

Claus · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:46 pm

No Saturday 7PM EST is the time for the RtR (Rag to Riches) event.

Claus · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:06 pm

Yup. Better than not planning anything

Claus · Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:01 pm

Hey Maru,

When the new box is set up, give me an FTP (or better yet, normal user) account and I can probably do the automatic backup that I used to do during daddycheese time

-- Although removing some ocean to reduce file size would be wonderful.

Other than that, you guys talk too much. Go play some single player and post the screenshots here.

Claus · Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:41 pm

I'm not hot on a new world. I like spawntown a lot, even if I built very little on it. But then again, It's not something I feel super strongly about.

Claus · Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:37 am

So, I tried to log in, but I appeared in the middle of a forest, in a tiny structure, with a hole to the void in front of it. What's up?

Claus · Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:03 pm

In post 8931, Maestro wrote:
In post 8930, Rhinox wrote:And there is also the option of moving spawn 5-10,000 blocks in some direction and we can just start over without nuking the existing structures people want to keep. Could even be a good idea for the rags to riches community build - to build a new spawnpoint welcome structure off in the wilderness somewhere. :shrug:

I like this suggestion as well.

This Rhinox guy, he is pretty smart!

Claus · Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:52 pm

That's a plan. We could also postpone it to some other day, if getting everything set up today seems difficult

Claus · Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:41 pm

Hey Guys. I'm sorry about that, but I will have to leave home now. Can anyone else take the heeds of RtR, please?

Thanks!

Claus · Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:33 pm

Guru is far from true, but it is true that I used to be mad about IRC. XD Thanks maru!

Claus · Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:33 pm

I make a checklist of things I'd like to do in Single Player worlds... that keep me entertained for a while.

Claus · Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:49 am

I kinda regret deleting some of my single player worlds on updates instead of just moving to new chunks. It would be awesome if I was still building on my original snow spawn on 1.2 beta.

Claus · Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:59 am

There was a thread on r/Minecraft with what is a valid door for a village. I'm pretty sure I linked that thread here somewhere.

Basically, you have 1 villager for every 3 valid doors. Villagers are counted within a certain radius from these valid doors, so if the villagers escape this radius, the doors produce more. Or something like that.

Creating a place full with villagers with dirt rat traps is not that hard... making a good looking apartment complex on the other hand is much more interesting

I usually start my Single Player worlds by building farms for all the farmable objects, a restaurant, a magic tower. Then I go exploring some caves in search of dungeons. Build some beacon towers in interesting location within viewing distance of my town, and try to begin a rail system between these places. This is usually where I start to get lost/busy with other stuff, though. I had a really cool town going around in my beta1.8 world, but I stupidly deleted that one too when 1.2 came around.

Claus · Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:02 am

In post 8989, Rhinox wrote:
Also we should reschedule the R2R! I was ready to get on after I got back from the movie but there was no claus and only a couple people online . I think It was probably just too chaotic with the server being down until just before.

Yeah, I was planning to stay on from 0:00 to 6:00, but with the server shenanigans, I left around 3:00 to meet some friends instead. Unfortunately, I'm already booked for the next two weekends, but you guys should totally organize that without me! It's the kind of event that we could do multiple times, and should become better with practice.

Claus · Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:39 am

Because that image is not actually updated with any useful info

Check the IP.

Claus · Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:08 pm

There should be some good free IRC clients for iOS. A quick google search points to "Mango Lite"

IRC chat is so much better than the Dynmap one, it's not even funny

(Android has Andchat and androIRC as the biggest players)

Claus · Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:40 am

In post 9040, Klazam wrote:I do not pirate. If something should be paid for, I pay for it or do not get it

?? What are you talking about? None of the free chats I posted is pirated.

Also, piracy is such an overused term, every time someone is inventing a new act to be considered "piracy". Beware of using it. For example, you bought a music CD, you want to copy one of the songs to your phone for listening. Is it piracy? Some people want you to believe it is. Anyway off-topic.

Claus · Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:12 am

If you are in a work PC, you should just use the link to the chat in the first post. It is quite decent.

Claus · Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:26 pm

In post 9113, Maruchan wrote:
When Corin was bought out by Bowl of Noodles, Claus happened to be at a sticky point in rl where he had no time to deal with the switch/etc, and i said I'd gladly get everything taken care of for him and pay the bills, without a thought of helpiung2admin, and then he went and said i was admin SAYWUT? so lyke yeah.

TBQH, I was not online or checking the server for a few months at that time. Having me or no one as an admin was about pretty much the same thing. You on the other hand were super active, and basically solving all the technical problems even before that, so it made sense to make it official

Claus · Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:33 am

Sorry, completely off topic, but if you guys could lend me a hand with Ludum Dare, by giving me feedback on my game, that would be awesome!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4545846

Claus · Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:24 pm

In post 9501, Chevre wrote:Just letting everyone know that I won't be playing on the server until at least the 7th due to data limits. Don't dewhitelist me or something.

data

limits?

Claus · Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:07 pm

Corin posted on the chat that the server is working on 1.4.6, 10 minutes ago. Anyone care for testing it? (make sure you can back up to 1.5 if necessary)

Cheers

Claus · Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:43 am

Quoting this from the "nether" thread.

In post 2, Rob14 wrote:made me realize Testificate Village is only connected by Nether

Lol, stop using netherroads and TP and go take a walk outside. The path from spawn to Testificate village is BEAUTIFUL, with a few great builds on the way.

And get off my lawn while you're at it.

Claus · Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:47 pm

Great Idea.

Claus · Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:34 pm

So, I was just exploring the server a bit -- who built the area around the "fireworks" warp? It is seriously awesome.

Claus · Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:48 pm

You guys should talk less, and post screenshots more

Here is what I spent my weekend on:

Spoiler: Mansion on the resort island

Click here for the full album

Claus · Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:25 am

1) Resort island now has a basketball court, and moar paths. More pictures to come when I finish landscaping.

2) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25141

Claus · Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:00 pm

Nice

Claus · Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:20 pm

Post some pics then

Claus · Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:46 pm

In post 10721, Chevre wrote:
In post 10719, chkflip wrote:/: You guys aren't even playing the same game at this point.

It's just that Minecraft has so much potential. You are likely not yet disillusioned with the vanilla game, which is totally fine, but I've been playing for 2+ years. The mods add whole new content and sets of rules, and just when you've "completed" one, there are a hundred more to try. And then you go back to the vanilla version to enjoy its simplicity, and the cycle begins again.

I don't know. It seems to me that the more mods you add to the game, the less time you spend actually building stuff.

The vanilla server has so many awesome buildings (the mazes, izak's caves, spawn town, the many different castles)... I've yet to see what has been built of AWESOME in the modded server...

(Or maybe this is a reverse-psychology attempt at getting you guys to post more pictures

)

Claus · Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:12 am

Well, I will challenge my own question, though.

I've been watching Etho's let's play series on an FTB server, and he is doing something really cool with the mods: He is using some mechanism (don't know the name) to build giant stone blocks in the sky, and then using the mining laser and jetpack to mold those stone blocks into floating islands. Then he is using some railcraft to make jumping trains to connect the islands.

So there are certainly things you can do. Now go out there and do it!

Claus · Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:36 am

In post 10943, Rhinox wrote:I spent a little time on the nilla server yesterday for the first time in a while. Only had time to gather some resources for what I'm planning on doing, but I noticed when I was chopping trees at the tree farm is spawn town there was a lot more lag than I remember, especially for me being the only one on at the time. Is there any way to make that go away?

I've been noticing a lot of lag too, and I'm building in the middle of nowhere :-/

Claus · Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:53 am

Ok, true... there is a Desert Village nearby, but not much else...

Claus · Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:34 pm

In post 11039, Klazam wrote:
And a community is difficult- I would have no idea how to do it without total resource integration like the crash tower... For old people on the ms server, how did you all found spawntown and get spawn town running?

1- Don't be a dick to each other;
2- Be awesome to each other;
3- Find a super spawning location.

I think that about sums it up

Claus · Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:26 pm

Hey guys, can anyone point me to the post with the how-to to setup the modpack? I might pop my head in the modded server from time to time to see what you guys are doing (since no one EVER posts any pictures of the modded server.... NEVER)

Claus · Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:19 pm

I'm not sure Feb 14th is the 2 year anniversary of the server. It is the 2 year anniversary of this thread, which, if I'm not mistaken, is the second Minecraft thread in MS

Claus · Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:32 pm

First MS Minecraft World -- ???? - ???? -- I was not there to see it. Supposedly, they had weird mods like flying machines and stuff.
Second MS Minecraft World (Art Gallery, etc) -- 1.2 up to 1.4 -- 13/feb/11 to 3/apr/11 -- (??? I thought it started earlier)
Third MS Minecraft World (MSTA!) -- 1.4 to 1.9 -- 4/apr/11 to 19/nov/11
Fourth MS Minecraft World (Spawntown!) - Release 1.0 onwards -- 19/nov/11 to current

Didn't realize we've had the current world for so long (or the initial world for so little)

Claus · Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:55 pm

That, but I think we were toying with the idea of a restart anyway, because of Strongholds and stuff.

Claus · Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:32 pm

In post 11123, UltimaAvalon wrote:
Then the host deleted both the world and the auto backups I paid them for when I missed a bill that shoulda been transacted through autopay, then again when I ditched that host for good. I cant remember if I gave the server to Claus in April or May, but I thought it was May.

You actually gave it to MME. Or better yet, MME had a personal server on DaddyCheese and we all kinda moved there.

@Eek, Scot's Art Gallery was the world before the one that got griefed, but it was during my tenure (I still think the griefing was hilarious, tragic though it was. Some guys thought they were griefing someone elses server entirely)

Oh, I kinda remember that.

Claus · Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:52 am

Heh, people come and go

It's the nature of the game, I guess

Claus · Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:35 pm

In post 11135, Rhinox wrote:Also, 2 things:

1) is there any way to make it possible to zoom farther out on the dynamic map? I know it used to zoom to the entire explored world on launch and it doesn't do that anymore. I can't find anything further away than about 5000 blocks from spawn because I don't know which direction to search for it.

2) who built the small hut built out of iron blocks with random rails and stuff inside. I happened across it while exploring and was wondering who it belonged to, if anyone. Seems like a pretty big waste of resources just sitting there

1- The thing is that the world just got bigger

A while ago 5000 blocks was enough to see the entire world. That said, while people like big numbers, there are a lot of perfectly unexplored areas within a 3000 block radius of spawn (We found an untouched village 3000 from spawn).

2- Hut with random rails????????

That is a legitimate Small Scout UFO

Claus · Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:39 pm

So I played a bit of FTB single player last week. It is pretty fun, there are a lot of little nooks that could use more love (brewing beer and coffee, that is cool!)

Izaak, why do you need all that power?? It seems to me that the top level machines in IC2 are not all that useful, since you can make most everything with the lower levelled ones... I mean, I could power a diamond generator and a miner relatively well with a small tree farm and a simple generator.

The thing that gets me is that you need to be much more organized with those megapacks... My first day playing FTB I did a reasonably nice looking 1 floor home using some of the different minerals, and then I spend the next three days mucking around with macerators and batteries and miners and my poor house remained unfinished

It seems very easy to forget exactly why you need all those resources anyway.

Thaumcraft is surprisingly polished. It is one mod that really made me regret looking the wiki - finding out stuff using its internal system is very fun.

Steve carts look cool too, but I have yet to dive into that mod.

Turtles look extremely awesome, but with a high possibility of lagging a server to death with bad scripts.

Mystcraft is a great idea. The "portal central" aspect of it seems to be extremely underlooked (make a small stable age, and fill it with linking books to the nether, different parts of the overworld, and BAM you don't need warps anymore). The fact that ages can spawn TC dungeons with loot is OP to me though.

Portalguns are super OP. Moving spawners around? really? I mean, I could understand this if you had to build your portal gun with the ender star recipe, but you can get one relatively easily from TC+Mystcraft.....

I'll post some pictures later.

Claus · Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:17 pm

In post 11247, Klazam wrote:i have portal central in my home for my own use.

Meh... this is why I'm really not motivated to play in the FTB server

If everyone is hidden in their underground bases with their personal systems, why not play SSP with less lag? ;-P

Claus · Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:00 pm

In post 11249, Klazam wrote:No, everyone still interacts a LOT

Pics or it didn't happen

Claus · Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:04 pm

In post 11250, Maruchan wrote:So I played a bit of FTB single player last week. It is pretty fun, there are a lot of little nooks that could use more love (brewing beer and coffee, that is cool!)
Have you looked at plant corss-breeding with IC2? I'm just diving in to that

Yeah, that is what I was talking about. You can apparently get coffee and beer from IC2 plant breeding

Maruchan wrote:
Izaak, why do you need all that power?? It seems to me that the top level machines in IC2 are not all that useful, since you can make most everything with the lower levelled ones... I mean, I could power a diamond generator and a miner relatively well with a small tree farm and a simple generator.
Now imagine 50 of these miners and diamond generators set up side by side, to continually power them one generator isn't enough. Now imagine a solar panel that can output enough power to power all of these AND charge 10 batboxs to full in under a minute. Yeah, infinite power rocks.

Only if you can put all that power/constructions to good use.

Maruchan wrote:
Portalguns are super OP. Moving spawners around? really? I mean, I could understand this if you had to build your portal gun with the ender star recipe, but you can get one relatively easily from TC+Mystcraft.....
tell thsi to klaz who is (again) the powerhouse of end-game content n our server, this time obtained from creating mystcraft ages and looting like crazy the thaumcraft stuff

Yeah... I hope they nerf this in the future, it seems a bit dull to just create multiple ages to get random endgame level loot.

Claus · Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:08 pm

http://imgur.com/a/HKfYf -- Solar power is the past. Cow power is the future

Moo!

Claus · Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:21 pm

Chevre, no love for Thaumcraft?

Claus · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:17 pm

Thaumcraft is awesome because it adds things really different to the game (the research gameplay, the way to use the crucible, flux mechanics) that still feel kinda "minecraft-y", and because it is super ultra polished. The Thaunomicom is a thing of beauty. It is a mod that doesn't just feel hacked in when you play it (*cough IC2 and xycraft*)

Claus · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:26 pm

Don't take me wrong, IC2 adds a lot of fun things (jetpack, wheeeeee!), but the block designs and the recipe designs just feel... I don't know, they feel standing out like a sore thumb.

Claus · Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:09 pm

Ah, I see. Ok, here is a simple, non-spoily comment - but keep in mind that I, myself, have explored the mod very little yet.

The mod is mainly about creating magic items. You can create blocks with magical properties (they do cool stuff), or you can create magical items like magical coal that burns for longer, or magic wands (such as a digging wand).

How the mod works: Every "component" (item, block, etc) must be found out by doing research. You do research by sacrificing blocks at a research table. For instance, an arrow gives you research on "combat" and "flying". When you accumulate a certain number of research, you unlock a new part of the mod (a new knowledge).

To create a magical block or item, you need to do two things: 1- Craft it in a special crafting table, 2- infuse it with "essentia". Essentia are the same elements as in research, so you "sacrifice" items with that essentia to finalize the magical recipe. When you do that, you usually waste some essentia (which becomes flux). If you waste too much essentia, too fast, bad things happen, so you may want to limit reckless use of magic.

Finally, the Thaunomicon is VERY well explained. The description of each facet of the mod (items, mechanics, etc) is done in a very clear and concise way, it is almost like having a portable wiki in the game, so you never really get lost while playing around with TC.

Claus · Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:22 am

In post 11328, izakthegoomba wrote:On that note, does anyone know where I can find documentation on RedPower? I'm trying to build a diamond factory in a creative world, but buildcraft pipes are waaaay too buggy.

I haven't seen any documentation yet (haven't looked for it), but Direwolf20's you tube video series, videos 9 and 10 I believe (sorting system part 1 and 2) does a VERY good job of explaining the Redpower tube system.

Actually the entire series (season V, uses the same modpack we're using right now) is really good.

Claus · Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:33 am

Did you guys manage to get hops yet?

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:54 am

I love the multiple death points

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:45 pm

If you guys feel it is necessary, I would be happy to make automated backups of the Vanilla server - I just need SSH access and read permission to the Vanilla world directory.

In other worlds, which is the favored mode (in terms of not loading the server) of chunkloading? Is the default chunkloader (enchant table+gold+ender pearl) OK? I remember we had this discussion before, but I don't know if it is still current.

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:30 pm

In post 11537, Rhinox wrote:
Is it even possible to recreated the vanilla seed anymore fresh?

Yes and no. There were some biome generation changes, so the general landmass would be the same, but the older biomes will be different. The newer chunks should be the same.

The seed used is "numbat", and the spawn was artificially moved to its current location (It was originally closer to Maze 3, me and MME moved it to the mountains near the village).

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:21 pm

In post 11547, Maruchan wrote:
In post 11545, Rob14 wrote:Can we get a tl;dr in understandable language of all future Corin/Maru interactions? Thanks.

tl;dr, claus can't have SSH without compromising the security of my business, but he can have FTP. ftp can be configured by M without me or corin assisting.

SFTP (more secure or some shiz?) can be done but corin will get mad at me if we do it because it makes a security risk in M's server.

Uuuh, that is not exactly true -- FTP passes password around in plaintext and is generally insecure. SSH can be made secure (else there wouldn't be Virtual Hosts). SFTP simply didnt work with commandline scripts last time we tried it

Anyway, here is a no-account needed alternative: make a wgettable symbolic link to the latest world backup, and I will set up a script to download it every day. But if it is too much of a hassle, just forget about it, not a big deal.

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:44 pm

Well, like I said, no big deal then

Claus · Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:48 pm

http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/co ... changelog/ --

It seems there will be a new version of DW20 coming out soon, with three new mods - One of them adds quite a few magical items, and the other adds magical bees.

Claus · Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:02 am

Check the other mod, there is a pouch item that seems to work like a portable barrel: a pouch that can absob up to a few thousands of a single item type.

Claus · Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:47 pm

In post 11567, Rob14 wrote:
In post 11566, Maestro wrote:4) Yes. Just switch to your normal Minecraft install rather than using the FTB Launcher - although you CAN, however, login to the Vanilla Server using the FTB Launcher and the Modpacked installation, when you go on the Vanilla server, it'll obviously not use any of the Mods except for anything not related to game content. (e.g. the Rei's Minimap Mod still works)

That's cool. Does NEI still work too?

Wait... does that mean I can use "Y" to sort my inventory in the vanilla server by connecting through the launcher? Does it auto-replace my broken tools as well?

That is pretty sweet.

Claus · Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:04 am

http://imgur.com/a/8nvZ9#0 -- a small tutorial on RP2 sorting

Claus · Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:32 am

So I spent some time this weekend on the FTB server doing this: http://imgur.com/a/HKeuV#0

There is now a quite neat wool farmer near spawn using a turtle. The turtle is programmed to go around the sheep shearing them, and bringing the stuff to a chest. It is smart enough to avoid leaving its base if it doesn't have enough energy, or if the chest is full. You can also flip a lever to tell it to stay in its place. It "should" survive server restarts and loading/unloading.

On the other hand, it is a bit slow, because the sheep take forever to eat grass and regrow their wool.

Anyway, feel free to grab some wool from that chest, if there is any! (if you drop by, also drop some fuel into the generator - Shirley the shearing turtle thanks you!)

Claus · Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:48 pm

No love for my turtles

In post 11657, blake5135 wrote:Why? ^^

Water updates cause a lot of strain in the server. This is true even in Vanilla Minecraft - you don't want a lot of water updating at the same time.

Watering/de-watering a quarry means tens of thousands of blocks updating in a very short span of time.

On a side note, what's up with the attitude, Maru/Klaz? It is a sensible rule, with a simple explanation that is not immediately obvious.

In post 11669, izakthegoomba wrote:
the first, why is everybody so insistent upon not using a lava-free age to mine in?

Another option is using IC2 miners. If you put a pump by the miner, it will put all the lava/water in nice canisters. It also doesn't leave a mess in the landscape.

What if you want the obsidian?

pump+miner and mix the water/lava you get. Or just minium+wood+automatic crafting table (need 2 minium stone for this)?

Claus · Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:40 pm

Hey Maestro! Thanks for the heads up! It is a pity about your void castle!

Claus · Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:43 am

Sooooo... did anyone mess with my shearing turtle? It was replaced with a normal turtle. It was pretty cheap to replace, but still it was annoying.

Please, other than taking the produce, don't mess with the working of my farms. If you want to set up something similar in your place, I'd be happy to help.

Claus · Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:09 pm

In post 11795, Klazam wrote:I've been looking fruitlessly for a place to live in the over world- all of my machines and shit will be in Egypt, but I want my main living place, farms, etc in the over world.

It looks like I'll have to do some massive terraforming somewhere. To avoid this, Anybody know of a plains or meadow biome, not riddled with caves or ravines, with water nearby, and a non forested mountain biome bordering the plains on one side? I don't want it to be entirely ringed by mountains, and I do not want snow or deserts to be nearby.

Klaz, Behind the forests behind spawntown there is a largish meadow without ravines. I did not explore it fully, so I don't know if it borders any mountains. But it is reasonably close to spawn (around 300 blocks)

Claus · Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:14 pm

Also, I've finally finished the outer shell of my Vanilla Pyramid

No pictures yet, I want to at least make the throne room, and that will take a day or two of work. Any good soul who does not feel like playing in the vanilla server anymore would donate me a couple of diamonds?

Claus · Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:18 pm

Pffff. Don't attribute to griefhood what can be explained by ignorance and/or bugs

Claus · Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:54 pm

Browsing the FTB dynmap:

Spoiler: two volcanos

Wow, this is a pretty awesome location, not THAT far from spawn. Is anyone building here currently? If not I might move my Thaumlab here.

Claus · Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:24 pm

In post 11816, Rhinox wrote:speaking of dynmap, vanilla is still broken

Yup. I've spent about 5 hours working on a pyramid yesterday, and it is still not showing up.

Claus · Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:29 am

This is from my girlfriend's place. I Think I have better net at my own place, will post results tomorrow

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