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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:19 pm

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/confirm

Apparently I'm becoming the standard PL.

Who knew.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:39 pm

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Neil.

Get an avatar.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:23 pm

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I'm actually always 3rd Party Assassin.

Get it right.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:22 pm

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Why won't you get an avatar?

You realize this benefits you as much as it benefits me in-game, correct?
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:22 pm

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EWBOP:

Your sig isn't going to help me remember your posts.

I'm probably going to look at it once and not care about it ever again.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:41 am

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Vote: jakesh97


Neil get an avatar.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:32 am

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Comment on my vote.

Now.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:40 am

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jakesh97 wrote:Comment on a random vote?

lolwut?
Oh, so you obviously know the point of RVS.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:29 pm

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Niel.

Get an avatar.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:11 pm

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D1 will be summarized by getting Neil getting an avatar.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:15 pm

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andrew94 wrote:whats qft
vote oversoul
Let Me Google That For You
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Post Post #60 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:28 am

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Neil.

You better be shitting me.

You can easily find an avatar of Dwayne Johnson on Google.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:48 am

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Note that "Exactly" option on Images?
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Post Post #73 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:19 pm

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don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.
I like avatars.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:25 pm

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TheLonging wrote:it doesn't increase the chances of a town win at all
It increases the chance of a win in Navi Mafia.

ololololololololololol

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Post Post #82 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:40 pm

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Unvote, Vote: Vifam
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Post Post #97 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:41 pm

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L-2 is a nono.

Unvote, Vote: Yourfriendlynoggin
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Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:33 pm

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Nevermind. Real vote here.

Unvote, Vote: Oversoul
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Post Post #109 (isolation #18) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:45 pm

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Oversoul wrote:
Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.




What would you like to discuss?


Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.


Wasting time discussing anything not pertinent to the game at hand is advantagous to the scum. It decreases the amount of scumhunting significantly.

FoS: Vifam



The avatar crap between Neil and Jakesh seems like scumbuddy talk trying to pass time without actually going anywhere.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #19) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:02 am

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How can you understand the second vote in a wagon but not the first?

That makes no sense.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:25 am

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Nah. This is just Neil crap town.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:23 am

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This isn't meta.

This is just crap town.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:51 am

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Neil wrote:You and your boyfriend

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You're dead now. I wish you weren't crap town so I could kill you, but I'm 100% sure you are now.

Neil wrote:you and your boyfriend called me crap town,


TL wrote:If you're talking general reads, then at this stage, no I would have to disagree.


So what's next?

Neil wrote:both of you have failed to scum hunt
The basis of the last two pages has been you getting an avatar. We haven't talked about anything but that.

This is crap.

Neil wrote:failed to make any cases, and then you place a vote on me with nothing but "oh my gosh! you arent questioning him!"
Well um.

It's Page 5 what do you expect, and his reasoning is good enough to be considered a case.

Neil wrote:You're a hypocrite at best sir, and you're not worthy of my vote.
So let me get this straight.

You've found things that were scummy about him, but he's not scum?

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Screw this.

You're not crap town.

Unvote, Vote: Neil
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Post Post #124 (isolation #23) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:52 am

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EWBOP: inb4someonecomplainsaboutoveruseofimages
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Post Post #127 (isolation #24) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:58 am

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LOL I FORGOT GUYS. NEIL WAS MOD CONFIRMED TOWN.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:03 am

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Neil.

Why don't you try to defend yourself?

Go ahead I dare you.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:41 am

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Neil wrote:I'm done responding to you. I have nothing to defend myself from. You have no case.
Idunno.

Maybe the post where I vote you might have something that makes you look bad.

Yeah, it'd probably be better to avoid it at this point.

Neil wrote:Instead I'm going to spend the time that would normally take trying to convince you that I'm town, and I'm going to use it to scum hunt.
Go ahead. Make a case on whoever is scum right now.

I mean, you criticized TL for doing it, so why can't you?
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Post Post #136 (isolation #27) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:22 pm

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Image

I think I'll use a Sasuke image in every post.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #28) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:30 pm

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How can I come back against your amazing attack?

That'd be impossible!
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Post Post #140 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:57 pm

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:Dodging with sarcasm is a scum tell.
Using words is a scumtell.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:25 pm

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I'm bored. Let's get this over with Shotty.

I really don't want to argue with you because it comes down to, like it will this time, where you will lose because you use semantics against me. So here we go.

Shotty wrote:He slipped right under the radar with the avi thing.
No, I didn't. I talked about the avatar issue, but I also addressed other issues.

Like in #29, I voted Jake, and talked about Neil getting an avatar.

The next time I talk about the avatar issue is #46 where I make a separate post about it. Everything else is game related.

From there on, Page 3 was all about avatars except for one vote that wasn't explained.

I come back with an in-game post on Page 4 with the vote of Vifam.

Now unless because I was in discussion with others about Neil getting avatar, I was able to get under the radar by doing so and getting annoyed at Neil for not seeing Exactly on the side, I was never able to slip under the radar this game.

shotty wrote:He made way to much off topic and anti town conversation
I made as much, if not a little more than anyone else.

If you want to count, I made around 10 posts out of 30 off topic. And by off topic they weren't too off topic, they were jokes. I've still been contributing. If I've made anti-town conversation then you should probably note that, because I haven't seen any note of anything I've done that's been anti-town.

Now, if you consider talking about avatars anti-town that's a different dispute. Even so, I wasn't the only one doing it, so you can't just blame that on me. This is basically the only point you have on me, and you'll see that's the truth when I finish and not respond to your rebuttal.

Neil wrote:Also Neil is his partner.
Theories by Shotty.

Proven to be 100% Wrong 100% of the time.

Neil wrote:Hiraki effectively put neil in the victim zone by attacking him for something not game related, then he goes on to defend him and, without meta, writes off his bad play simply as bad town.
I never attacked Neil for the avatar so that's a complete lie.

I defended Neil by calling him bad town. Only bad town would go against what everyone else wanted Neil to get, an avatar. He then was apologetic for his actions.

I don't see why scum wouldn't just go with town in order to stop looking a little more scummy than usual. This is why he is bad town, rather than bad scum.

Basically Scotty, like usual, you have a faulty case that is like a rocket. A rocket with no engine, wings, fuel, or even the rocket parts.

It's shit.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:29 pm

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EWBOP: Sasuke image

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Post Post #145 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:03 pm

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Shotty wrote:Lies again. 10 of your posts were telling him to get an avi.
Attacking him = Asking him to get an avatar.

So right Shotty.

Those 10 posts weren't exclusively avatar either. Some of them were off topic posts that were jokes. It'd then be like 6.

Why is this not important? Because out of 30 posts, I have still been able to deliver 20 posts worth of content. If I had 15 posts, then I'd say you had a fair case.

But I don't I have 30.

Shotty wrote:Or he's a noob and you are coaching him and sweeping down to save him.
You got me.

Seriously, you did.

I'm going to buss on D1.

Shotty wrote:Or maybe scum???? Everyone else wants scum lynched, but scum doesn't. Also if I kill your mom and then apologize is it cool?
That's a lie. Scum want their win condition fulfilled. If they really had manipulation on their side, they'd want a NL everyday or a mislynch.

And yes. But still that's not the point because his avatar controversy only made one page worth of annoying discussion. We're on Page 6. 3 pages after.

wheee.

Shotty wrote:Lies again.
Yup.

Shotty wrote:My point was you slipped under the radar, as in no one noticed your scummy actions. Thus why I am pointing them out.
You still haven't singled out a single post of mine and found a scummy action. All you've done is complain about the content in my posts at this point.

I hate arguing with Shotty.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:31 pm

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Shotty wrote:Hiraki/Niel Scum team is a go.
Herp derp. Shotty still doesn't know what he's talking about. And is still being stupid.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:08 pm

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Btw.

Neil wrote:Anyone with eyes will read your posts and roll them, more then likely ignoring you.


muahahahahahahaha
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Post Post #156 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:09 pm

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Andrew wrote:also, u said neil was bad town, why did you suddenly not think he was bad town anymore,.
I did, before analyzing his posts deeply.

Then I realized this had to be scum.

Andrew wrote:@Hiraki now you are dodging that? You are so scummy!
I'm dodging what? I haven't even posted.

Neil wrote:The fact that I'm a leading wagon, and nobody has a single case against me, shows just how pitiful and sad half this town really is.
Shut the fuck up.

I'm tired of this shit about a case I get in every post from you after 3 people, calling it both townie and scummy, have validated it to some extent.

Andrew wrote:post 147 of shotty = good
Uh no it's not.

If I vote Neil, I must be bussing if there's a scumteam of me and Neil.

The Oversoul vote comes from the FoS post, which gives me a bad vibe, and his lack of content and valuable votes..

If Neil was not here, I'd be pressuring him big time.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #36) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:55 am

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Neil's new post is lmffo. I don't really want to say where, because it's pretty obv. he's scum now.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:16 am

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Oversoul wrote:
Also, Hiraki, please stop posting those very ambiguous and cryptic posts. You have done it in this thread and you have done it in [redacted]. It is getting annoying.
You have to ask nicely for me to explain my posts.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #38) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:39 am

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I do.

Don't think we're all newbies either.

Neil wrote:I've already admitted, I've not attempted to scum hunt once this game in all reality. I did some ISO's and read over the game again, but I've not posted any of my reads or cases. For a reason.
There is no town reason to with-hold content. I hope you realize this.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:54 am

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Don_johnson wrote:What?


I'm not with-holding any content. How can you plausibly say that?

Fixed.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #40) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:10 am

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Yes, I make short posts.

Are you telling me these short posts are devoid of content?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #41) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:20 am

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So you're saying we shouldn't get rid of people that are anti-town?

HMM.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #42) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:10 am

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Everything anti-town is a threat to the town, that's why it's anti-town.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #43) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:32 pm

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Oversoul.

Scum. Reads are tampered so that you get massive town appraisal and points.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #44) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:49 am

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What could I possibly be dodging?
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Post Post #195 (isolation #45) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:15 pm

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You know Shotty.

This would be much easier if you just asked the question again, instead of posting it twice.

I have no want to look at your posts anyway.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #46) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:24 pm

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What Sigma posted was my response to that question.

I answered that question.

It is valid and there is no if, and, or buts.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #47) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:35 pm

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No, and absolutely not to your end paragraph.

Let the big boys hold these reigns.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #48) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:40 pm

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I'm very helpful to the success of this game.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #49) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:40 pm

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:
neil1113 wrote:
Hiraki wrote:No, and absolutely not to your end paragraph.

Let the big boys hold these reigns.


Are you going to be helpful at all and play the game? If not, you know you could just replace out?

Neil you are the most useless player here.
For once, Shotty hits the mark.

Let's get ready for butthurt Neil.

amirite? Yes, the last line confirms this.

Perhaps we'll talk tomorrow. I'm tired.

Shotty wrote:@Hiraki why are you trying to be over dominate? Only people with info should be like that, and ell only the mafia in the game can get info.
I don't try to over dominate.

Where does it seem like that?
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Post Post #223 (isolation #50) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:22 am

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Truth=/=Overdominating
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Post Post #226 (isolation #51) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:04 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:You are being condescending and intimidating.
In your opinion.

Considering that I'm quite sure that Neil will flip scum, what's the point of arguing now?
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Post Post #228 (isolation #52) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:05 am

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Claim.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #53) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:08 am

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You made a VC.

After one vote change.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #54) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:29 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:She was announcing that she was looking for a replacement.
I realize that after.

I had to criticize the mod.

Y'know.

Neil is butthurt. But still scum, looking for an emotional way out of being lynched.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #55) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:26 am

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Let's not.

And when Neil flips scum, you're next. Easy.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #56) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:01 am

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I didn't see it was a hammer.

erghle.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #57) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:57 am

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Vote: Vifam


This will prove Don_Johnson scum.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #58) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:29 pm

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Vote: Vifam
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Post Post #259 (isolation #59) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:23 am

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Hiraki wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Vifam


Hiraki wrote:
Oversoul wrote:
Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.




What would you like to discuss?


Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.


Wasting time discussing anything not pertinent to the game at hand is advantagous to the scum. It decreases the amount of scumhunting significantly.

FoS: Vifam



The avatar crap between Neil and Jakesh seems like scumbuddy talk trying to pass time without actually going anywhere.
Don_John and Vifam are scumbuds.

It can be easily found right around...

don_johnson wrote:let's lynch vifam.

unvote, vote: vifam
There.

That looks good.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #60) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:25 am

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EWBOP:

Neil wrote:But if it’s no bother I would like you to explain a little more how you went from reading Neil as “bad town” to “pretty obv. he’s scum now.”
Because he was inconsistent and he was being blatantly anti-town.

To the point where he was calling himself the only scumhunter, however he was doing absolutely no scumhunting. Even if he did do any, which I do not care to check for, it was probably shitty at best. He was just butthurt because he thought he was the best. Nothing major.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #61) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:52 am

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Coventry wrote:I mean the argument could be made pretty convincingly that almost no one on the train did much in the way of scumhunting on day one. I suppose that isn't so unusual for day one, depending on the personalities. So was it just the volume of Neil's uselessness or did you just become so tired of his "butthurt" that you were anxious for him to leave the train regardless of his affiliation?
I didn't care about the others.

It was a combination of both. The second coming later in the game when he gave up.

Coventry wrote:I'm sorry to come back to this but you moved very quickly from seeming very certain Neil was bad town to very certain he was scum. And once you'd decided he was scum you seemed quite terminally focused on him throughout the rest of the day.
Because I assumed that he was going for everyone assuming or trying to think that he was bad town, rather than scum.

Coventry wrote:As certain as you now seem about Vifam and Don_Johnson, based on Don_Johnson jumping in to make the appearance of starting a last minute wagon on Vifam being evidence that they are in evil league together.
That is true.

Not only that, but Vifam was numero dos.

Once Vifam flips scum, Don_Johnson will flip scum too.

You make some good points that bad play doesn't equate to scum all the time, but that's the point of the game. Scum usually make bad play, and we're out to get them. If we aren't looking for bad play=scum, then what are we looking for?

Don_Johnson wrote:I think hiraki should go Next.
bwahahahahahahahaha.

Don_Johnson wrote:This game needs scum to play fast and hard and thats exactly what hiraki has done.
That's your case?

I guess it goes inline with some Coventry favoring.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #62) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:56 pm

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I've already stated that, and that might be one of the most shittiest pieces of logic I have ever looked at.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #63) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:34 pm

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If Vifam flips scum, Don_Johnson is scum.

If Vifam flips town, I'll need to look somewhere else.

Does that make it easier?
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Post Post #273 (isolation #64) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:39 pm

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It doesn't work the other way around, and Vifam is already scummy like I have already noted.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #65) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:21 am

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Coventry wrote:So I am that dense. So then the scum have both of their bullets still and we're two mistakes away from losing? Is that correct?
Yes.

Coventry wrote:And if Vifam is town it somehow clears Don_Johnson for his action.
It does.

Coventry wrote:You haven't made any sort of case for Vifam being scum apart from this interchange. But you have made me reread your posts to this point. I mean voted for Vifam in your in-thread post #82. But in your in-thread post #107 you posted
Allow me to explain. While you may have looked at my posts in isolation, I am now doubtful if you looked at Oversoul's in isolation at the points in which this matter occurred. Not to mention, Vifam is already a better lynch due to information, but we'll get to that.

Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:no its not. but whatever.

vifam: how do you know what i am interested in?



nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.



This post implied you were wanted to start some serious discussion.


Now tell me, how does putting me at L-2 create any discussion other than the tunneling of me?
This proves the former.

And,
Oversoul wrote:
Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.




What would you like to discuss?


Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.


Wasting time discussing anything not pertinent to the game at hand is advantagous to the scum. It decreases the amount of scumhunting significantly.

FoS: Vifam



The avatar crap between Neil and Jakesh seems like scumbuddy talk trying to pass time without actually going anywhere.
That was my basis for the Oversoul vote. As you can see, Oversoul is being extremely hypocritical here with only 5 posts, most of them being small snippets and promises of more content.

What did Oversoul do? He provided content.

He's not scum.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #66) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:49 pm

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You do realize that PRs don't exist in this game, right?
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Post Post #296 (isolation #67) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:57 pm

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:God damnit! You killed his fake claim a pr gambit!
I know.

Gotta help me scumbuds.

But seriously, Coventry isn't scum.

So there's no point to that.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #68) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:58 pm

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don_johnson wrote:yeah, good point. i'm not really paying attention.

vote: coventry


because he's posting the shit out of this thread so theres no way he could be paying less attention than me and yet he still couldn't seem to grasp the venge kill mechanic even though its part of the only townie pm. *breathes*

uh huh.
Oh.

So it wasn't a gambit?

...

This is the worst vote I've seen in awhile.

It's also the lamest fake scumtell I've seen. I mean really? Misreading a role P.M. that is stated right on the OP?

Don_John.

Can you stop making me think you're scum? Or is that impossible because you are scum?

HMM?

HMMMMMM?
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Post Post #299 (isolation #69) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:09 pm

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:He has a point Hiraki...
He has a small miniscule point that doesn't point toward scum.

I'm very well aware of that.

Are you thinking about joining him?
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Post Post #301 (isolation #70) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:51 pm

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It's not a good point.

You're saying that because Coventry misread something, all of her contributions should be invalid.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:36 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:Yes, how doesn't it point to scum?
It's null that's why. There's no certainty that Coventry just didn't read the part with Citizens having the ability to shoot after being lynched, or if she didn't read it because she's scum.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:21 am

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I didn't notice this until now.

Don_Johnson wrote:you were willing to test your theory with the vifam wagon, why not coventry?


LOL

Coventry. You get my drift now then?
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Post Post #312 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:38 pm

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DO YOU SEE A PARTICULAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VIFAM AND COVENTRY?

I haven't stated
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thing of a relation between you and Coventry. I have stated relations between you and Vifam.

I did answer it, you just obviously are blinded by wanting to get away with a better lynch also known as a mislynch.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #74) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:51 am

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nice distancing attempt
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Post Post #335 (isolation #75) » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:11 pm

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?YHW
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Post Post #347 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:50 pm

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lol
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Post Post #359 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:55 pm

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Fuck this.

Either D_J and Vifam are screwing with me, or I just don't know how to play anymore.

Anywho, I can't stay here.

Unvote, Vote: Don_Johnson


Especially that deflection.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:31 pm

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D_J.

Here's what I got from your last post.
1) Bawwwww
2) Willing to sheep a wagon that one of his scumreads is on, his largest at that.
3) Has nothing on me, so that's why he's not been able to go on me until this BW started to form, which really only became valid to him after Glowball joined the game.

The main problem is his wishy washiyness toward Vifam and I during this day.

Tell me, Don, what's your case on Vifam?
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Post Post #378 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:45 pm

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You realize that things can change?

And that nothing is definite in mafia Don_John?

Come on.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:49 pm

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Vifam wrote:
Hiraki wrote:You realize that things can change?

And that nothing is definite in mafia Don_John?

Come on.



You realize you've been kicking him the balls since D2, right?
Considering that you've decided to talk about how I'm scummy and how you're not scummy, this is futile.

Not even that, you've only been able to find relationships, nothing concrete.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:36 pm

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Vifam wrote:
Hiraki wrote:
Vifam wrote:
Hiraki wrote:You realize that things can change?

And that nothing is definite in mafia Don_John?

Come on.



You realize you've been kicking him the balls since D2, right?
Considering that you've decided to talk about how I'm scummy and how you're not scummy, this is futile.

Not even that, you've only been able to find relationships, nothing concrete.




Says the guy who has been pairing me and DJ this whole time.
Nice job of still not addressing the valid point, but going with another question.

I've paired you and DJ after, you're a null at the moment, rather than scum. DJ is scum though.

If I really need to make my points I will, which unfortunately it seems I will.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:39 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:I'm willing to maybe hammer. Someone convince me to do so, or not to.
You can't hammer anyone because no one is at L-1.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #83) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:24 pm

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wheeeeeeee
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Post Post #399 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:59 am

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Yeah, so sorry guys.

Looks like I'll have to try harder for reactions next time.

D_J isn't scum.

Unvote, Vote: Vifam
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Post Post #411 (isolation #85) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:34 am

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The mod has made only 2 vote counts.

The chance of a deadline: .0000001%
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Post Post #413 (isolation #86) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:36 am

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EWBOP: Scratch that, I thought 2.2 correlated with the days, rather than the number.

Still, if I was mod, I wouldn't due to lack of activity in this game. Shameful, really.

Pre-Edit: I guess not.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:41 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:So they don't out them selves, and who says scum is on the wagon?
?
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Post Post #422 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:05 am

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don_johnson wrote:Hm. Hiraki, can you see the glowball/vifam love? Its kind of wierd...
Considering Glowball has done basically nothing but vote me in this game, yes.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #89) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:53 am

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You also haven't looked, obviously.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:09 pm

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Oh.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:13 am

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Coventry wrote:Actually, would anyone who is currently pursuing Vifam care to...ummm...make a case?
FFS.

Have you even peeked into my ISO? You think everyone on the Vifam wagon is blindlessly sheeping?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:17 am

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Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.




What would you like to discuss?


Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.
Right off the bat. This already looks a bit slippy, but in a
very
minor way. The best point here though is that Neil getting an avatar would not increase the chances of town winning a game at all. It just made things convenient when Neil was alive.

Vifam wrote:
SigmaEXE003 wrote:
Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.

How so?





It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.
Remembering reads doesn't lead toward a town win, getting scum leads to a town win. These are all minor so far, but the big points will be up ahead.

I'm just done with this shit.

Vifam wrote:
SigmaEXE003 wrote:
Vifam wrote:It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.

... I don't see it. An attempt to look pro-town maybe? Or perhaps an attempt to prolong this phase of not really doing anything. Either way, seems pretty scummy. For now:

Unvote
Vote: Vifam




That's terrible reason to vote someone :igmeou:


I've always found that avis help me remember reads a lot easier, not an effort to look town, just my personal experience.
So let's recap. Why is this vote terrible? Because avis help people remember reads.

Again, we lead to the same conclusive point that Vifam brings up. Avatars don't help the town win. They help reads stay organized via memory due to avatars.

So, was this vote really that bad?
No.


Vifam wrote:
how about this ridiculous math?

vote: vifam

go go vifam bandwagon.



Why would you put me at L-2 so early? We're only four pages in.


VOTE: don_johnson
L-2 isn't really a horrible spot to be in.

L-1? I can agree. L-2? Not really. Vifam gets paranoid from here on out before people start defending him(stupidly).

Vifam wrote:Because Don-john was the one who wanted discussion to happen, a lot faster, and that totally contradicts that with him putting me at L-2. He could be trying to apply pressure but I feel like a player who really seemed like he wanted to discuss things wouldn't act so rashly, unless he was scum.
Did he bring discussion due to the forward of his vote on you to L-2? Did he get pressure on you by voting L-2?

Yes. So, I would believe that Don_John is still being townie.

Vifam wrote:There is no real reason to put someone at L-2 in the first place unless it's to pressure them into claiming or searching for reactions. And Don didn't seem to have any interest in that before the BW on me started.
Assuming.

makes an ass out of u and me.

#104 is the only post that shows that Vifam does actually have a valid point. However, again, Vifam is still assuming.

So now you may ask, what's so bad about Vifam's play thusfar?

Well. Assuming isn't a scumtell per se, but the reason that he/she is actively participating in the game, but decides to care about an L-2 vote, while ignoring the rest of the votes is already a bit odd. I mean, Vifam doesn't even call out any votes against her excluding Sigma's vote.

That's a bad reaction.

Vifam wrote:He didn't seem like he was really going for that, IMO. It seems like she thought I was legitimate scum.
Back with assuming after you've already stated multiple times that Don_John was going for serious discussion. Do you believe that Don_John just decided to be an idiot?

#146 is fine because Neil was scummy.

However, n.b.

Vifam wrote:Yeah, Hiraki hasn't done anything scummy, back up shotty.


Vifam wrote:Don_John can you get anymore scummier?
Lawlful. You haven't stated one real scumtell on Don_John, just some assumptions you've made on his actions.

Vifam wrote:But his "Hey let's lynch Vifam to prove Don-John is scum" is painfully flawed. Especially when you think about how close I was to being lynched D1, how he managed to edge out ALL of the BW that were on me to don_john, is very shady.
Here, Vifam basically says that his/her lynch is bad because it had a large BW.

lol

Vifam wrote:Also Coventry didn't slip that's ridiculous. She's town, even if she has the same style of play of politeness and well spaced out paragraphs, she's still way too straight forward to be mafia. Her effort to extract answers are completely genuine.
There is absolutely 0% of content here that would lead to Coventry town rather than Coventry scum. Coventry scum can be polite and write well spaced out paragraphs.

Vifam wrote:I really doubt you two actually think that was a slip.
What is it with these assumptions?

Look, this is post 329 in the game. The only scum tell that Vifam has been able to provide on anyone in the game is on Neil, and that's because he was blatantly scummy. Other than that, Vifam finds small scumtells that don't really mean anything in the end and null tells. That's it. Top it off that his/her play is scummy, and you got yourself a nice package.

#375 is where Vifam starts to get logical.

However, Vifam gets logical in a sense that it would be logical if she didn't assume. Again, we come back to the original Vifam who complains that there's no real reasoning against her own lynch, but can't provide a decent scumtell on me either.

Therefore, D_J, her other scumread, apparently is scum with me because we distance all the time.

It can't be anyone else that she's mentioned and forgot about.

Like Shotty.

Then, from theory land, we travel to hypocrisy to the max.

Vifam wrote:Also, Hiraki's became so passive aggressive against me it hurts. :X


While in the next post,

Vifam wrote:You realize you've been kicking him the balls since D2, right?
Instigation.

Vifam wrote:Says the guy who has been pairing me and DJ this whole time.
Instigation.

Vifam wrote:Again with the ignoring of my posts.
How the fuck is anyone supposed to respond to those posts? They're obviously posts that you don't respond to and you just look at them.

But then it gets juicier.

A SWITCH!!!!!

Vifam wrote:How about we all lynch Don_John

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Don_Johnson


And what may cause this turn of events?

Tragedy wrote:
Hiraki [3] -
Vifam
, Glowball, andrew94 (L-2)
don_johnson [1] - Hiraki
Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik,
don_johnson
(L-3)


Over-reacting scum is over-reacting.

Vifam wrote:Seriously guys, explain to me how Hiraki is NOT obviously bussing?
lol

Your turn.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:38 pm

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NO.

I'M REQUIRING THIS LYNCH.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #94) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:48 pm

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Tragedy wrote:
I was more disappointed with the player's, in fact, mostly with the activity and the replacement.
Oh the depression.

On the other hand, Vifam looked obviously scum.
Kind of why one of us needed to die.

As planned.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #95) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:49 pm

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EWBOP: No offense Vifam, but if you kept your cool, you could've had smooth sailing rather than infrequent WTFscum tells.

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