Open 314: CSL Express [SCUM WINS]

[drmyshottyizsik]

I see!
I think both on the left are a pretty good team.

[Tragedy]

HAPPY SCUMDAY TO DMSIS.

Votecount 1.9

TheLonging [0] -
Glowball [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [2] - Coventry, andrew94
Oversoul [0] -
Hiraki [2] - Vifam, Glowball
don_johnson [0] -
andrew94 [0] -

Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik, Hiraki

(L-3)
Coventry [1] - Don_Johnson

Not Voting

: TheLonging, Oversoul

Required 5 to Lynch, 4 to No Lynch.
Deadline is at July 10th, 3 PM.

[drmyshottyizsik]

=D!!!!!!!

[Tragedy]

Prodding TheLonging (AGAIN).

[Oversoul]

I EAT TOAST FOR BREAKFAST!

YOU MONSTER!!!

YOU WILL PAY FOR THE DEATHS OF MY FAMILY!!!

[glowball]

I already did. $1.99 for the loaf!

[don_johnson]

unvote, vote vifam

[Vifam]

unvote, vote vifam

You sure showed me.


Why?

[don_johnson]

A better question is : why not?

[Hiraki]

Fuck this.

Either D_J and Vifam are screwing with me, or I just don't know how to play anymore.

Anywho, I can't stay here.

Unvote, Vote: Don_Johnson

Especially that deflection.

[glowball]

Am I missing something here?

[Oversoul]

Welcome to my world, between this game and [redacted] I can never discern Hiraki's post. I just gave up.

Between posting pictures and voting anything he finds suspicious, Hiraki is ... nuts. lmao.

[don_johnson]

thats laughable. he's been campaigning for the vifam wagon all day and saying that vifam scum = donscum and then when i vote vifam he tries to kill the wagon and vote me. makes no sense. in any case, if we're not lynching vifam, i'll vote hiraki. i get town from shotty.

[Vifam]

God the way you people call for BW is astounding.

[Vifam]

It's like you just expect it to happen.

[drmyshottyizsik]

It's marathon day and the 4th so I won't be posting.

[Hiraki]

D_J.

Here's what I got from your last post.
1) Bawwwww
2) Willing to sheep a wagon that one of his scumreads is on, his largest at that.
3) Has nothing on me, so that's why he's not been able to go on me until this BW started to form, which really only became valid to him after Glowball joined the game.

The main problem is his wishy washiyness toward Vifam and I during this day.

Tell me, Don, what's your case on Vifam?

[andrew94]

fine

unvote vote hiraki

[Tragedy]

HAPPY MARATHON DAY TO ALL! I honestly felt drunk yesterday.

Votecount 2.0

TheLonging [0] -
Glowball [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [1] - Coventry
Oversoul [0] -

Hiraki [3] - Vifam, Glowball, andrew94

(L-2)
don_johnson [1] - Hiraki
andrew94 [0] -

Vifam [2] - drmyshottyizsik, don_johnson

(L-3)
Coventry [1] - Don_Johnson

Not Voting

: TheLonging, Oversoul

Required 5 to Lynch, 4 to No Lynch.
Deadline is at July 10th, 3 PM.

[Coventry]

A better question is : why not?

No. A better question is why.

Not that you're voting for Vifam any longer anyway. Now you're voting for Hiraki.

And by the way, Hiraki taking his vote off Vifam when you put your vote on Vifam is a town tell, though it's not enough to give me a town read for him. At this point I would be tempted to jump off any wagon that had you and Shotty both on it, no matter what I thought my reads were telling me. I'm sorry, but your behavior has been that consistently suspect.

And Andrew, could you be so kind as to explain any reasons you might have for your day two actions?

Thanks to either of you for any explanations you provide.

[don_johnson]

No. A better question is why.

no. i am obviously not wallposting cases in this game so asking me "why?" seems like a waste of time. noone can give me a reason why i am scummy aside from pointing to my playstyle, which is simply the least accurate way to scumhunt. vifam is criticizing those of us who are voting and saying things like "lynches don't just happen," but is not doing anything himself to achieve a lynch. i.e. its just a bit hypocritical. all i'm saying is i want him to give me a reason not to lynch him, and he doesn't. but whatever.

Not that you're voting for Vifam any longer anyway. Now you're voting for Hiraki.

pay attention. my vote is on vifam.

And by the way, Hiraki taking his vote off Vifam when you put your vote on Vifam is a town tell, though it's not enough to give me a town read for him.

how so? hiraki said a vifam lynch would help determine donscum, but when don supports him he changes tune? i was voting vifam when you were still peeing your pants and stumbling into coffe tables while yuour parents were getting drunk at the bar next door. jk. but seriously, what has changed between then and now that makes hiraki want to change his stance. has vifam done something pro-town that i missed? is hiraki backtracking on his earlier hypothesis? the fact that you are ignoring these things does not bode well for you.

At this point I would be tempted to jump off any wagon that had you and Shotty both on it, no matter what I thought my reads were telling me. I'm sorry, but your behavior has been that consistently suspect.

what "behavior"? i've been voting rather consistently. are you referreing to my playstyle? what are your reads telling you that you are choosing to ignore?

[Vifam]

No. A better question is why.

no. i am obviously not wallposting cases in this game so asking me "why?" seems like a waste of time. noone can give me a reason why i am scummy aside from pointing to my playstyle, which is simply the least accurate way to scumhunt. vifam is criticizing those of us who are voting and saying things like "lynches don't just happen," but is not doing anything himself to achieve a lynch. i.e. its just a bit hypocritical. all i'm saying is i want him to give me a reason not to lynch him, and he doesn't. but whatever.

How am I supposed to give you a reason to NOT lynch me if you won't tell me WHY you're doing it in the first place.


Also, I'm doing something to "achieve a lynch" right now, I'm voting Hiraki. I gave my reasoning #323. Which you ignored, btw.

[Coventry]

Don_Johnson,

I'm not ignoring my reads. I said that if you and Shotty jumped on a wagon I was pursuing I would be tempted to.

I'm voting Shotty. He is the person I am most suspicious of. At the moment Hiraki would be second. You would be third, though your response has certainly moved you a bit in the pro-town direction, at least for me.

But believe me, if I was voting for someone and you and Shotty jumped in to vote with me I would certainly consider moving it. Why? Because based on your actions I do not have faith in your motives.

And see, you still haven't given me a reason for why you are voting for Vifam. You said instead that you wanted him to give you a reason not to. But that ultimately devolves to just picking someone randomly and waiting for them to talk you out of lynching them.

And why is essential, don. Why is the reason you make the choice you do, why others might be persuaded to follow your lead or at least explore their own feelings toward the person on whom you've cast your vote.

And thank you very much for answering.

[don_johnson]

vifam: i did not ignore 323, in fact, it reinforces my scumread of you. in it you say that hiraki is scum, and that i am also scum. is hiraki/dj scumteam really still plausible to you? and if so, why? the fact that you havent moved your vote from hiraki to me forces me to assume you are still hard on for the hiraki lynch. as sig's flip showed us, some of the bigger proponents of the neil lynch may very well be town. do you think the people actively pushing neil are more likely to be scum than those players who simply hopped the wagon? which category do you place hiraki in(pusher or hopper)?

cov: the more i think about your "pm mistake", the more i think it actually confirms you as town. i have to assume that scum have daytalk, which would make your "mistake" a town tell or the cleverest scum gambit i have ever seen. so i apologize for that. in regards to vifam, i think his voting record(being on the mislynch) is reason enough for a certain amount of suspicion. i don't have "reason" to vote him other than PoE, his mislynch vote, and his recent posts which just don't seem to make sense(hiraki/dj scumteam suggestion). so whatever. i think he is a good place to start in looking for scum on the mislynch wagon. at this point i will be very surprised if he flips town. i don't think hiraki is a great lynch as i get the feeling he may be in the same boat as sigma(well-intentioned but misguided town).

[don_johnson]

seriously, go back and reread from the day 1 lynch forward and then ask yourself why hiraki would possibly have unvoted vifam to vote dj. according to hiraki(who you pointed out manufactured a false history of vifam suspicion) dj town=vifam town and vifamscum=djscum. so there is no reason AT ALL to move his vote the way he did unless he is scum with vifam. think about it. if you guys want to lunch hiraki first i am game, but i'd like to start with vifam out of sheer pride(i.e. i nailed him on day 1 while the neil wagon was chugging in the wrong direction.)