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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:48 am

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HITO AND SPYREX WITH ME?
THE STARS HAVE ALIGNED.
ITS A DREAM COME TRUE.

*runs off to shower DGB in praise and devotion*

I get the feeling this'll be somewhat like Comedy of Whims... :igmeou:
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:52 am

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Good deal.
Now I can claim NK-Immune Vig to DGB.

JACK.
WHY YOU GOTTA BE OVER THERE WORSHIPPING NOBODY.
COME OVER HERE.
I WONT STAB YOU WITH A LIGHTNING BOLT AGAIN. :twisted:
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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:01 am

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Oh look at Nobody, all uppity and high-strung.

Imma chill over here with the Goddess of Rewards, and eat magical fruit. <3
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Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:04 am

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Hey zoraster.
How will flips go? Will PRs flip PRs?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:06 am

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DeathRowKitty wrote:
Jack wrote:lol, NS has already revealed himself as the evil god.

After some chat I claimed to be scum and he straight up revealed himself.
^ LOL
Scum #2 caught.
This is pretty easy.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:38 am

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LLD wrote:You cannot stop me Battler. :3
DAMEDA, ZENZEN DAMEDA.

I've already offered to claim to my Goddess. And for the record, DGB is divine. None can stand next to the Goddess or Rewards and not prostrate themselves at her feet.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:52 am

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Image
NO U

Jack can do whatever he well wants in pregame.
DGB wrote: For now, be certain not to share anything overly important with the gods;
About that... :oops:

I call Hades, DGB.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:12 am

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Nobody Special wrote:
Andrius wrote:And for the record, DGB is divine. None can stand next to the Goddess or Rewards and not prostrate themselves at her feet.
Of
course
she's divine, dummy, she's Immortal.
I meant that to be a double-meaning, dummy. :P

/loljk
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Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:23 am

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You mind bolding and coloring your text, NS?
Thanks.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:38 am

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I'm a HIGH PRIEST
motherfucker
.

I don't agree with hito, actually. I feel like he should post in color mainly because he can. Oh well. My preferences.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:50 am

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<3 hito

Idea: All the scumbags are concentrated in one support group.
Tinfoil: They're all supportive of Red.
Tinfoil: NS is scum.
Therefore: All reds are
communist bastards
scum.

Discuss.




:P
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Post Post #49 (isolation #11) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:02 am

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I was honestly thinking 4-5 scumbags for some reason.
Forgot there are FIFTEEN of us, not like 18-20.
Definitely 3-4 then.

I actually like 4 better; leads to less outguessing when we actually get dead scumbags.

I echo the sympathies of my Goddess.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #12) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:16 am

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THE GODESS IS CORRECT.

Statistics is FTL.
NOBODY SPECIAL LIKES SCUM.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #13) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:20 am

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DO NOT DARE TAKE ARMS AGAINST THE SERVANTS OF OUR MISTRESS.

In the infamous words of a dead terrorist: I kill you!

predit: O_o
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Post Post #78 (isolation #14) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:56 pm

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1. Long.
2. Immunity.
3. HRM

MY GODDESS IS CLEARLY SUPERIOUR TO YOURS, LAMBADELTA.
YES, I AM TOWN.
BUT I AM LOYAL TO MY GODDESS AND FOLLOW HER TO THE END.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #15) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:34 pm

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Vote: Me=weird

You were scum in Succession Mafia.
You deserve to die.

I have played with everyone here but LLD and themanhimself before.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:05 pm

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Its been awhile, FishytheFish. :D

Moar votes on M=W.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:38 pm

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hito, the policy lynch is here.
M=W

I love being alive in a game with you. xD
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Post Post #90 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:08 pm

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Image
8DDD

In somewhat-related news, I SEE FISHY POSTING ELSEWHERE.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:46 pm

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Dear FishyGod,

DGB and her devoted vassals are already contemplating how to use the immunity.
You have nothing to fear since you are Immortal. We lesser beings need some protection from the violence abroad.

-Hades
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Post Post #113 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:04 am

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hitogoroshi wrote:We either catch a lying scum or learn which god is the scum god. HOW IS THIS NOT THRILLING
I am very down for this plan. 8D

hito... </3
Vote: Jack

GREAT JUSTICE AND GREAT REWARDS
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Post Post #115 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:41 am

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KNOWING NS is the scumlord is worth the tradeoff.
Spy, its like sacrificing 4 VTs to get rid of a Bulletproof RoleCop. :P
(Not that extreme though.)
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Post Post #118 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:46 am

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Ok guys, why would knowing who the scumgod is NOT be worth it?!?
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Post Post #121 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:49 am

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I don't, actually.
Give me a night and I'll get back to you. :P
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Post Post #180 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:08 pm

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Just responding to something quickly-like.
farside22 wrote: Where did you get the idea this would happen?
The 4 VT thing for 1 BP RoleCop came from Lord of the Rings Mafia. They lynched the Mordor Mafia's Bulletproof RoleCop D1, but lost 3 VTs and a Jailkeeper that night (forgot the JK the first time). So it was a tradeoff.
I was just insisting that losing ONE townie to confirm two Gods as town and one as scum is DEFINITELY worth the tradeoff.
Hell, I'd volunteer to get lynched if that was guaranteed.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:53 am

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I've never seen DRK so active in my life. :P

Will catch up later, but
Why is Jack still alive? :?
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Post Post #270 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:28 am

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Jack needs death.
DGB is probably a town god.
NS is most likely scum god.
Fishy is in the middle with a meh.

LLD is town, though I don't necessarily like her attitude. :igmeou:
Spy is town.

Need to seriously read this game though; haven't been paying much attention, tbh.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:52 am

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I'm here I'm here.

*Insert I've-been-unusually-busy-this-weekend that no one cares to know about, so yeah*

I meant to read this weekend; it hasn't happened. I WILL catch up.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:24 am

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Massive wall incoming.
Drop altitude.

Do a barrel roll.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:28 am

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I am lazy. That's my excuse.
I have read.
These are my thoughts.

I subscribe to the theory that Jack is a smart cookie, and doesn't do things aimlessly.
So why do this? Because he's scum and doing his thing. Namely: sowing discord and "oh no jack wouldn't do a thing like that because that would be dumb". Seriously. He's either A: scum B: retarded. And we know he isn't the latter. /allude to Greek Mythology and how we were supposed to be together so I think I would know if he were mental/postal ;D

Why would you not claim your powers to your God? Lady LaLa is pretty much saying her God is scum, but NOT claiming her powers. I trust mine enough to claim. After all, to gain alot you must risk alot; the
Reward
of having a masonry with other abilities would outweigh the cost of outing myself to scumgod-DGB (who isn't). So I like the tradeoff, and am still confident DGB is town.

NS, DGB is "good". And why is "good" written in red? You trying to subtly inception your way into our town-lists? Because it isn't working.

Lady LaBa, is this a scum-read on your God again?

Mina is townier than thou.

Me=Weird is still scummy.

`
hito wrote: Sorry Spy and Andrius, but I think LLD is my favorite person here.
</3
Despite my town-ish read on Lady LaLa (and support from DGB) I don't get warm personal fuzzies from her. :igmeou:

So why didn't this happen again?

You're still scum and I'm town. You can't argue that I "know you're town" if I don't. You're basically saying "andy is scum because he is scum and knows I'm town". Which doesn't hold water. Or sandwiches.
Feysal wrote: It was SpyreX who said you would flip town. Andrius simply followed up on that. Are you even paying attention?
I wouldn't be surprised if he weren't paying attention.

Equinox is townier than thou.
Though, how exactly is Jack doing the "NS claimed scum to me" a gambit that's supposed to HELP us at all? Besides for making me want him strung up.

Jack is scummier than thou.

Wait what just happened here?

Lurkylurky SpyreX makes me sad. Why? Because a sheep once said that if Spy isn't ovtown then he's scum. And I know he is much more active as town. WHY DOES IT GOTTA BE THIS WAY SPY?
SpyreX is scummier than thou.
Me=Weird wrote:[quote=""Andy"]]The 4 VT thing for 1 BP RoleCop came from Lord of the Rings Mafia. They lynched the Mordor Mafia's Bulletproof RoleCop D1, but lost 3 VTs and a Jailkeeper that night (forgot the JK the first time). So it was a tradeoff.
Let's not talk about that.[/quote]
Sorry about that. ^///^

Good townposting.

Nobody Special is scummer than thou.
DRK wrote: Oh no, did I miss policy lynch time? :(
[b\Vote: Andrius[/b] Unfortunately I think he's town :/
Wait. You say you missed the policy lynch. (past tense)
And then come in to vote me and then say I'm town?!?!? (present)
SAY WHAT?!?
DRK is scummier than thou.
Jack is not town.
Lady LaLa is not scum.
Jack wrote: Andrius is scum, but it's something you have to see.
No one sees it, Jack.
Because it doesn't exist.
The coginitive dissonance thing won't magically reverse itself, even if you High-Priest will it to do so.
DRK wrote: Why weren't you policy lynched again?
Because I'm actually GOOD at this game now?

BENMAGE WHY.
PLAY THIS GAME WITH ME.
COME BACK TO MEEEEEEEEEEE /fail-treebeard impression
Tbh I thought you were a big dick when I first "met" you, but you do what you do well; just have it in for Fate with a passion. ;D
Equinox wrote: I'm not feeling the DrippingGoofball read. Unlike God of Useless Judgment over there, she's been posting her opinions of people. I'm warming up to Fishythefish, too;
THIS. Even if you're some immortal being with powerz reads still matter to us mortals.
DGB wrote: Andrius is town. I will vouch for this until he makes a mistkae.
I don't do mistakes. Not so sure about these "mistkae"s though. ;D
SpyreX wrote: My QT's stay logged in at home forever DGB.
Same here.


>_>
I don't like that face. Brings up memories I'd rather continue to supress.
Equinox wrote: :igmeou:
Ironic, considering [REDACTED].
Sadly, I'm not too sure of what you're getting at here. I know the game, buuut..?

Just realized I don't have a read on TMH. Because I haven't really been paying attention to him.

OH GOOD YEAH LETS ALL SUSPECT ZANG. :igemou: I'm not sure if I've ever actually played with him before... :?
Somehow Trader Mafia comes up, but I thought the other scumteam was Fishy and Steam-powered shovel (who is an alt?).

Dearest NS,

I love that you are active for once.

Sadly, I still think you're scum.

Yours in service to the Goddess of Rewards,

High Priest Andrius

Lady LaLa wrote: Jack, does Feysal=Andy?
Say what? No we're not the same person.
farside22 wrote: Andrius - I feel on the fence with Andrius. He's doing more joking around then scum hunting. His last post has town/scum but admits to not paying attention. Not sure how he can have a true list then. I don't really point to him and say SCUM, but nothing in his post really screams town either
I always joke around in the beginning of games. Keeps things light-hearted and not so serious. (Unlike playing with vollkan, who is always SRS BSNS.)
I was merely enforcing my previous reads. I was not paying attention but those were my strong reads, so I posted them as reinforcement. (Reenforcement?)
farside22 wrote: I'm not sure why finding the scum god is a priority when we can't lynch or kill the God.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

M=W is scummier than thou.
populartajo is scummier than thou.

Sadly, they can't ALL be scum.
Fishy wrote: @DRK: where are you?
Not here, apparently. And not a town-tell at all.

THIS IS ME POINTING OUT SPYREX NOT BEING HERE.
Carry on.
farside22 wrote: Spreyx may be scum, he's not striking me as town. No pushing, questioning, moving things along. More fluff then anything.
Hello DRK.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't use obscure-ass names in your quote tags.
<3
Andy
Equinox wrote: Hmm... Suddenly, the memory of Andrius comes to mind.
Look at me.
Now back to the thread.
LOOK AT ME AGAIN. /is here now
/lame OldSpice meme
equinox wrote: Why did you think Andrius was town at this point?
EXACTLYYYYY
Equinox wrote: DAMN YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR ONGOING GAMES
*coughcough*
YOU RIGHT HERE wrote: :igmeou:
Ironic, considering [REDACTED].
Feysal wrote: @Andrius: Can you explain your reads in #270?
I believe I've talked about Jack enough. :lol:
DGB is townier than thou.
NS is scummier than thou.
I read Fishy more town now.
Lady LaLa stands.
SpyreX leaning scum. :(

YAAAY MORE GREEK GODS!! :D :D :D

DGB why are we not lynching tajo?
DRK wrote:
Equinox wrote:Why did you think Andrius was town at this point?
It was mostly (or maybe entirely? I don't quite remember) for this. I wouldn't expect scum to be willing to lock themselves into a claim this early by choice and it doesn't sound like something he would make up if he and DGB were both scum.
Makes sense though.
And for the record, I have claimed to my Goddess. Out of love and charity and in the interest of furthering our expanding masonry of Rewards.
Mina wrote:
Mina's Giant Catch Up Wall Post of Doom






UNVOTE: farside22
VOTE: SpyreX







The End.
10/10, would read again.
Fishy wrote:@Spyrex, Andrius: who is scum?
Read this post pl0x. Everything you need to know is here.

YES CMAR ALL FOLLOWERS OF THE GREAT GODDESS OF REWARDS HAVE QTs.
<3

Is tajo actually in peru? O_o
Lady LaLa wrote: I forgot about Andrius. He'll need to be examined.
Suddenly the scene where Beato leads Battler down the stairs by a chain leash popped into my head. o_0
tajo wrote: Andrius is town.
I appreciate the sentiment, but why? I was expecting... idk. Not that. :/
DRK wrote: "Hi Andrius, why am I scum?" "Because you were all like "LOL" and scum would do that." "Okay."
Unvote, Vote: DRK
:P
Jack wrote: unvote, vote:drk

I will go with this for now, the andrius wagon is going nowhere.
That's right. Buss a buddy since you can't touch
this
my townieness.
Jack wrote: unvote, vote:Andrius
...
<3 you too Persephone.

farside wrote: I like this vote better right now. I don't like people making excuses and lying about things like RL when they clearly are here on MS and no it's not just doing mod duties.
I didn't give excuses. I know people don't care to hear them.
I didn't want to put in the time to read 19 pages of game, so I didn't.
I'm lazy as hell.
That's why.

DGB, Jack is both dense AND scum. (dun dun dun DUNNN)
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Tajo, I suspect you are bus'ing DRK.
Now we're getting somewhere.
tajo wrote: Why is Andrius assuming Jack is town here?
I'm not.
I'm saying that a townie would accept the trade-off. Jack didn't accept it, and is scum.
If I could confirm two players with my death, I'd do a [/b]Suicide: Andrius
right now.
tajo wrote: why is andrius town again?
YOU JUST CALLED ME TOWN TWICE YESTERPAGE.
THE FAIL...

IT IS TOO MUCH.

OH NOES DRK IS GOING ON V/LA. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS RIGHT?!?!?
I like my DRK vote, but am also willing to vote the following:
tajo
SpyreX
Jack
NS (emphasis)
MAFISCUM.NET wrote: Your message contains too many smilies. The maximum number of smilies allowed is 12.
WTF?!?!
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Post Post #460 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:29 am

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I KNEW I should have used area tags... :(
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Post Post #462 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:38 am

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But yeah. For reasons above, and to follow my Goddess' lead:
Unvote, Vote: populartajo

So i herd u were popular.
Dem votes really liek u.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:57 am

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Hey cool. 2 non-voters.
CMAR.
VOTE WITH US.
VOTE WITH OLYMPUS.
tajo wrote: but you sure fail at reading comprehension.
this may be true.

its not about ns not being able to die. its about confirmage and scumbags not wanting to die.

p.s. so i herd u dun liek dying, tajo.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:11 am

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tajo...

WHY YOU OUTING OUR TRADE SECRETS BRO?
WHY YOU TELLING ALL THEM PEOPLE ABOUT OUR SECRET AFFAIRS?
Of course if a townie is VT they'd sacrifice themselves for a PR.
Only scum wouldn't.
Logic 101 time.

Come again? I don't specifically remember us arguing about why I voted you.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:38 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Holy shit Andrius-kun.

That is a large wall.

I read the whole thing, but I have no motivation to even try and tackle that thing. I will say this though. I agree with a lot of your posting, and I feel confident in my read on you after that post.

On the other hand, DGB, can you explain to me as clearly and succinctly as possible, the exchange between you and Tajo? I know that's you've both posted about it, but I get the feeling that you were both exaggerating more than a little. Can I get the facts?

Also, can I get some opinions on a potential Fishy-scum scenario?
Yeah, when I commit to reading I commit.
I just have to actually sit down and do the reading.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:49 am

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...wwwwhich is why you need to support a tajo wagon.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:27 pm

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tajo wrote: these things should NOT be secret specially when you suspect your god can be the scum god.
BUTTTT i like how youve cleared dgb from the go, it speaks well of your scum status or more likely your stupidity.
You're missing the picture, aren't you. :roll:
You clearly are missing the train, or are just missing the wagon. No big.
DGB is my #1 pick for town-God of all three. Ns is #1 scum.
tajo wrote: when did I say that if I were a VT I wouldnt sacrifice myself for a PR?
DGB/you QT yeS?
DGB anyway.

It wasn't rolefishing. It was an innocent Q.

I can, actually, read.
Lady LaLa wrote: You know, this combined with the "Anonscum" slip, is kind of adding up against you Tajo.
Lady LaLa wrote:+1 misrep

OH GOD I WANT TO VOTE YOU SO BAD.
You aren't doing so... why?
hito wrote: Andrius gets a few points for such a motivated but slapdash catchup. While it was nothing too game-relevant, I envision scum being hesitant to say so much with so little attention paid to any one part. It's a risky signal for scum, too easy to make a slip.
Since you seem a bit let-down by my catchup, anything you want to ask me? Anything I can do to help?

HAI CMAR.

ON that note, anyone have anything in specific for me? I think I've been fairly open in my catchup.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:37 pm

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Except tajo is ALSO scum AND a better player. So yeah.

MOVE OVER HERE OR ILL USE YOU AS A SACRIFICE FOR THE FIRST TWILIGHT.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:39 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
DeathRowKitty wrote:I vote stupid town on Tajo.
Haven't gone thru yet, but saw this and wondered if it was a scumbuddy coming out of possible V/LA to buddy his scumbuddy?
DeathRowKitty wrote:
LA the 10th through the 14th
. might not be posting so much until then either. i'm not sure yet. could possibly be V/LA until the 10th. i'll post as much if so.
I agree with these sentiments.
tajo is definitely not "dumb town". Or dumb at all.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:47 pm

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Equinox wrote:THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF ME

(Translation: I'm catching up late tonight.)
Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?

(Translation: I'm Obi-wan Kenobi.)
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Post Post #536 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:33 pm

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SpyreXDearest SpyreX.

I miss you.
It'd be cool if we both started playing and kicking ass, ok? :D
I miss what we had, and I want it back.
Let's lynch some scumbags! >8D

<3,

-Andrius "Kairys" Walker
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Post Post #537 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:34 pm

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OH shoot.

zoraster, I have this affinity for area tags. If you'd rather me not use them that's cool.
Also, how about the spoiler= tags?


Thanks! :D
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Post Post #539 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:43 pm

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Mysterioys things? :?
What do you mean M=w? I like the tajo wagon thxmuch.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:56 pm

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Cool. Then I'll just wait for it to come my way via DGB.

farside22 wrote: Do you feel the QT is a good thing to have?
Do you use it?
What do you think of people that don't post much in the QT?
Yes. I enjoy them for entertainment and communicating info to players outside the thread.
Yes. We're nearing 100 posts, so. :D
It makes me sad that a good thing goes to waste.
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Post Post #545 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:04 pm

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Andy, for hito wrote: Since you seem a bit let-down by my catchup, anything you want to ask me? Anything I can do to help?
*whistles*
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Post Post #547 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:10 pm

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No big. Sorry for being annoying. I just was kinda' put off. :igmeou:

Honestly, that was the big thing. I'd have to ISO him for clarity, but the biggest thing for me was the non-posting.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:42 am

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SCUMMIER THAN THOU:
DRK
tajo

We're doing pretty good IMO.

@ tajo: Use your brain; you can attempt to WIFOM and/or manipulate your god if you think they're scum.
DGB is town. *goes to offer fruit*

tajo wrote: DGB: hey would you sacrifice as a VT to help a PR?
DISTRACTED FOLLOWER 1: mmm, if I were a VT, I would.

That kind of answer indicates to me that FOLLOWER 1 is not a VT.

DGB: hey would you sacrifice as a VT to help a PR?
"I TRUST DGB" FOLLOWER 2: yes, I will sacrifice myself for a PR if you wish my goddess.

I dont care if these scnearios actually happened, the possibilities of it happening are not low and THATS what Im fighting against now.
tajo, let me give YOU an example:

DGB: Hey if you were a VT would you sacrifice yourself to help a PR?
Andy: Of course! :D

True story.

Another one:


DGB: Hey if you were a VT would you sacrifice yourself to help a PR?
hito: Of course! :D



DGB: Hey if you were a VT would you sacrifice yourself to help a PR?
SpyreX: Of course! :D



DGB: Hey if you were a VT would you sacrifice yourself to help a PR?
CMAR: Of course! :D


And finally:

DGB: Hey if you were a VT would you sacrifice yourself to help a PR?
tajo:
I see you drivin' round town with the girl I love...
U ROLEFISHING


Don't leave Mina! D:
OH NO, NOT THE OTHER-GAME REFERENCES. *dun dun dun DUNNN*
Mina wrote: Andrius: So if apparently, your only issue with SpyreX is that he was lurking...um, why exactly do you trust me? If you're looking at pure activity levels alone, I'm about ten times worse than SpyreX. You don't see anything wrong with his individual posts, other than that there haven't been many of them? But you still think he's scum?
Because you can be both friendly and call him out as scum. And I liked it because you're a wallposted and was like "oh im just voting spyreX here". Leaning scum, Mina. Leaning scum.
SpyreX is usually more active and protown, calling people out and stuff. :/


Someone want to explain Jack's gambit please? I'm so confused. :S
Hito wrote: Yes, I do - less quality control here. Seems like scum would put less effort into generating content to keep the same level of editing, rather than vice-versa.
I admit, I was more focused on reading and getting my thoughts out there than making it look clean and concise. I only edited it because the site said I had too many smilies in my post.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:38 pm

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Benmage - I offered to claim because that is how I play; I like to gamble a bit where I can control things, and crumbing is what I do.
I don't crumb when I'm afraid to claim, so I offered.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:35 pm

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Benmage wrote:
Andrius wrote:Benmage - I offered to claim because that is how I play; I like to gamble a bit where I can control things, and crumbing is what I do.
I don't crumb when I'm afraid to claim, so I offered.
But do you have any idea if you'd be claiming to the scum god or not?
I did claim, and I'm very certain she's town. :D
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Post Post #593 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:37 pm

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Feysal wrote: As for Andrius, I'll have to reverse my read of him and say he is town. I know Andrius has a thing for masons, and him claiming his role to DGB, even without confirmation of her being town, sounds like what I'd expect from him as town. I can understand him taking the risk that he is wrong about DGB - I once did the same thing in an off-site game, taking a leap of faith and claiming to another player I could talk to on night zero, which turned out to be the winning move. The potential benefit outweighed the risk, and I can see Andrius thinking the same. If he were scum however, I doubt he would want to lock himself into a false claim this early.
You're good.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:49 pm

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hito wrote: You do make a good point about Andrius-town, though.
:D

p.s. I really need to study for a test tomorrow, so I'll try not to be on here the rest of the night. :igmeou:
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Post Post #601 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:50 pm

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farside22 wrote:(2) DGB was scum hunting in here group looking for reactions.
This definitely happened.

Also, I pity the followers of other "gods" who are to self-righteous to speak to their own High Priests.

*offers fruit offerings to DGB*
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Post Post #611 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:39 am

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Jack wrote:
unvote, vote:drk
I could get behind this wagon too.
If Jack leaves
hellooooooo Persephone. ;)
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Post Post #626 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:40 pm

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Well fuck.
If I'm dead then DGB knows my mind better than anyone here.
If not then it was a nice try, DTM.
Feysal wrote: For one, Andrius said they had close to a hundred posts in their QuickTopic, and I find it hard to believe DGB could keep fooling him that long without slipping up, let alone SpyreX and hitogoroshi, if they're talking even nearly as much.
We've been busy. :P

I'm actually kinda' sad, since I just caught up and everything. :(
DTMaster, I had just caught up and redeemed myself (in my eyes).

DRK is scum.
tajo is scum.
NS is scumGod.

Not sure if this is legit or not since I've never played with you (DTM) before, so. :shifty:
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Post Post #633 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:05 pm

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I'm alive. That's cool.
Farside22 wrote: I was about to cry when I saw DTM do the fake kill. I almost believed it, except I thought in my head would a town vig kill someone without a full read?
For a moment there I was convinced you were concerned that I would die. :P

Agree with DGB on the whole QT thing.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:55 pm

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I agree that I am town, naturally. :roll: tajo is still scum.

LOL @ NS who gave in to us mortals. HAHAHAHAH

Broke 100 posts in our QT! :D

Seriously, more votes on DRK/tajo. Good work there guys.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #56) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:55 pm

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Sad to see CMAR go though. :(
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Post Post #677 (isolation #57) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:12 pm

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Activity overview doesn't work, Spy. :(
tajo is scum. What ARE you smoking?
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Post Post #679 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:34 pm

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Spy, are you on moonbeams?
He's scum. Vote DRK and sheep DGB.
Together we will be the Vanguard of the High Priests and usher in a new era without these dark gods/priests whatever they are.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #59) » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:56 pm

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Yo DGB you mind if I votehop to DRK?
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Post Post #687 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:58 pm

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Nobody Special isn't reading; he's scum remember?

I posted that here because I can, tajo.
And hoping people would come back to post, which they did.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #61) » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:43 pm

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*sets up an umbrella over the mangos*
Voting tajo is fine too. :/
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Post Post #714 (isolation #62) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:21 am

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Mina wrote: The one thing holding me back was that I find a few of his posts rather fluffy, and he seems quite buddy-buddy at times. But I think Andrius is always pretty friendly and jokey.
I'm always like this, especially on D1.

Mina leans town for me. Catching up is a bitch, and she seems honest about it.

nopoint!! <3 DGB is the best to worship, so. :D

I'm "oblivious and frustrating" to NS because he's scum and I'm uber-town now so he can't justify his earlier reads on me anymore.
I'm shining now. Can't touch this. *dances*
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Post Post #727 (isolation #63) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:08 pm

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You know, if all of the DGB group jumped to DRK we'd have a near-lynch.
Spyscum can be dealt with later, just like tajoscum.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #64) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:21 pm

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You're insane. :P
That good? xD
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Post Post #732 (isolation #65) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:33 pm

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Spy's going to have to create a "hydra" account to hide his talking-to-himself syndrome. :P

But seriously, DRK first.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:33 am

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benmage wrote: It was nonetheless illogical of Andrius to auto-trust DGB.
It wasn't auto, just really fast.

Jack needs death. Still. He's not trying anymore.

Unvote, Vote: DRK


Me and DGB are chatting about reads and stuff in-QT rn.
DRK, you look just like I knew you before. :(
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Post Post #823 (isolation #67) » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:13 pm

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DeathRowKitty wrote:I'll get to other things later, but I would prefer it if we didn't discuss which god is scum. Not only is it useless for the time being since we can't lynch or kill them, I would go so far as to say it's harmful. Let's say for sake of argument that fishy is the scum god and everyone suddenly comes out and calls him scum. He suddenly has no reason to keep up the charade of acting town. I would prefer our gods have a reason to at least try to appear pro-town for as long as possible.
Did you even READ DGB's latest post?
GOD.
WE GET CONFIRMED MASONRIES IF WE OUT ONE SCUMGOD AS SCUM.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:16 am

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Hellooooo scumgambit.
NS, stop trying to be as cool as the Goddess of Rewards & Co.

Equinox is an honorary Priest to Rewards, as he's ovtown. :D

lol @ nopoint finally seeing I'm town. :roll:
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Post Post #842 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:21 am

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He figures that because he's scum, obviously.
And he's getting away with it.
All his town-supporters should move to the Land of Rewards. Much nicer over here.
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Post Post #844 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:28 am

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1) She's open to us about the going-ons within the high priests supporting her
2) her dayplay is great
3) you're ovscum so she's ovtown

srsly, I've been saying this all game. Are you just not even reading?
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Post Post #847 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:47 am

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I think we should ALL keep eyes of NS.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #72) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:57 am

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He doesn't
have
a heart, DGB.
Scummy cur.

predit: OH LOOK AT NS ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY AND "OH NO I DIDNT DO ANYTHING"
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Post Post #853 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:01 am

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DRK isn't gaining any townpoints for that.
Still scum. Trying to save her.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #74) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:01 am

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EBWOP: Scum are trying to save her (scumbuddy).
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Post Post #860 (isolation #75) » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:17 am

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Yeah, I did call you a she, DRK.
Sorry. :/
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #76) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:09 am

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DRK
is
bad.
TBH I've fallen behind a couple pages so I need to catchup.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #77) » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:46 am

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Yeah I posted yesterday I think.
Reading now. (Fuck Aristotle.)
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #78) » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:22 am

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SpyreX's inactivity is totally not cool.
He's not acting pro-town like we all know him to be.
Evidentially going from POWERFUL WIZARD to HIGH PRIEST did something to his brain.

tajo is pushing Feysal oddly hard. Have to ISO to see if this is new.

Jack is also scum, but he won't say it. No wait he already did P1.

Jack still hasn't outlined why I'm scum besides for some misplaced gut-read.

DRK IS lazy. We need to do something about it because we won't magically make her any more active than he wants to be.

Don't like how Benmage is playing right now. Not getting an overwhelming town-read, which is unusual.

And now tajo magically thinks I'm scum? :? Why the reversal?

My LLD read is getting soiled. :/ I'm not reading her as protown as I did earlier.

Benmage is more bitter this game. Not sure why.

The umineko thing, while cute, needs to stop.

Agree with 945.

Somehow I don't suggest the vig shoot Jack. Idk, the BP claim seemed more legit to me than anything else... FFFF
DGB wrote: Ask Andrius, I had kittens over this in the QT - because I don't believe for a second that the power to grant BP is a role... since I grant BP once per 4 days and I'm a GOD ***fruit-flavored thunder***. So I tell Andrius, what kinda friggin gambit is this? Who is going to believe that nonsense? Is this a scum gambit or a town gambit. I suggest that DTMaster is behind this and sure enough... DTMaster posts within minutes of my QT rant.
I confirm this. She doubted the BP claim and began to question DTM's alignment further.
And post DTM did.
npiau wrote: @Andy: I would have been onto you if DGB hasn't insisted that you're town. And yes, I trust her enough to claim to her if you're wondering.
So without DGB I'm scum to you?

DTM claims Town. Hider.
Hider = scum.
Lynch away.
Unvote, Vote: DTMaster[//b]

SPYREX WHAT IS THIS ABOUT DTMREDIRECTOR READ. /fail

Jack doesn't have a scumread on me. I explained this already.
Jack wrote: If you really think Andrius and hito are scum, shouldn't you, gee, I dunno, be trying to persuade us that they're worth lynching, at least tomorrow?
Which is why he isn't, because he's scum.

SpyreX is probably scum, sadly. :(
He leads as town, here he's just waiting for things to happen and not help MAKE them happen.

I stand by my Goddess on her BP-give read.

Willing to hammer if need be. /runs off to DGB's Temple
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #79) » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:22 am

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And that was meant to be a vote.^
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #80) » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:32 am

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Ah.
Somehow missed that.
But still, Hider is meh.

Unvote
for now.
Battler, I said I'd move votes later on; making a point.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #81) » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:42 am

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I'd like my kills to work too god damn it!
I DESERVE WORKING KILLS.
TownVig you better do the right thing and shoot scum tonight.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:20 am

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Following DGB's plan to the letter right now:
Vote: Feysal

Will adjust if necessary at deadline.
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #83) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:17 am

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I TOLD YOU SPYREX WAS SCUM.
SEE, MINA?!? WE WERE RIGHT!! :D

*runs off to DGB's altar with fruit*
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #84) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:26 am

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Oh and hey Faraday! :D
Results from DTM please.
Vote: Feysal
continuing with the DGB plan. :D
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #85) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:35 pm

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Because we think you're scum.
Simple as that.
And you refuse to talk in the QT anyway, so.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #86) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:22 pm

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Faraday IS awesome.
Faraday wrote: Andrius is scummy too and has been all game but there's something that makes me hesitate slightly.
SSshhh don't tell the scum about mah breadcrumbz.
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #87) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:35 pm

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Leaning town carryover from D1.
Haven't really looked at him in awhile tbh.
Following DGB's lead right now.

Is there reading material Re: hito_scum orrr...?
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #88) » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:19 pm

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Specific points would be lovely, Faraday. <3
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #89) » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:59 am

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Cool beans we're purging those fruitless supporters of yours, DGB. nopoint needs death, and Jack and tajo as well. :(
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #90) » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:35 am

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Unvote, Vote: tajo

Can we do this now?
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #91) » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:23 am

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Persephone, darling, Equinox was protected by DGB last night.

<3,
Hades

But seriously. I am behind a Jack/tajo wagon today. DGB and I are working it out in QT (approaching 200 now!!) and we think they're the most likely scum. Especially within our temple.
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #92) » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:24 am

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hito, Jack is Persephone. I'm Hades. :P
Apparently we could use some marriage counseling. :roll:
/lack of communication
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Post Post #1404 (isolation #93) » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:17 pm

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Unvote, Vote: Jack

The Temple of Rewards is on the march.
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Post Post #1501 (isolation #94) » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:29 pm

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Hey guys. I'm totally not feeling the mafia fervor like I used to, and my activity levels are suffering across the board. I'm just fed up with alot of different games and people so I'm not as into the game as I used to be.
Feysal wrote: As for Andrius, I still find him townish, based on his huge catch-up post on the first day, and the fact that he and DGB seem to be really talking in their QT. Last he said they were approaching 200 messages. He is not very transparent though in thread, which makes him hard to read. We're apparently supposed to take on faith that he and DGB know what they're doing.
My willpower for mafia right now is low, but I'm very active in the QT. DGB speaks for both of us at times, since she is kill-immune where I am not. We established this bond very early in the chat.
Feysal wrote: PS. I like blueberry flavor.
Say what?

I like how I don't even make DGB's traitor-fishing list. :P I'm nowhere to be seen. xD

Benmage reads town. As does farside. CMAR's slot needs death IMO.

Still don't like tajo (what are you doing DGB we need to shoot that alpaca).

JACK NEEDS CLAIMING.
farside wrote: With the responses from Andy I'm almost certain he is scum too.
I had a small part to play in SpyreX's death, tbh. ;)
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #95) » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:44 pm

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Dearest Persephone,

Please claim.

Love, Hades
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #96) » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:05 pm

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Just vote Jack and we're good.
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #97) » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:09 pm

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DGB only can use a double-vote today, farside.
I forgot if we had a plan for that too... /goes to read
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #98) » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:05 pm

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Sweet. Jack isn't claiming.
Probably scum.
Is scum.
I'd hammer him- for old times' sake- if I could. ;)
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #99) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:59 am

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Is that a question or a statement, farside?
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #100) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:17 am

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The Temple of Rewards doesn't only deal in fruit, farside.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:27 am

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I agree with the Feysal/Jack notion. nopoint is definitely on the list, Equinox will take some doing.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #102) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:10 am

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Approaching 250, and now we're focusing on HOW JACK IS NOT LYNCHED.
WTF GUYS.
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:40 pm

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Every time one of you says "Temple of Time" I think Legend of Zelda.
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #104) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:53 pm

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I love the sarcasm in farside's posts. :D
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #105) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:05 pm

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*AHEM*
*points DGB to my Devotional*
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #106) » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:06 pm

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/ninja'd by DGB

/nm
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Post Post #1610 (isolation #107) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:59 am

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:lol: @ tajo
DTM isn't confirmed. Yet.
And I'm totally not scum. Just because I'm in DGB's camp of wanting-you-dead doesn't make me scum.
/back to the Devotional
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #108) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:59 am

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DTM, I think we've already established that NS is the scumgod WEEKS ago. :P
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #109) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:07 am

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GUYS.
FFFF
CAN WE JUST FUCKING LYNCH JACK?
HE HAS PLENTY OF DIRT WITHOUT THE FUCKING TRAITOR PIECE.

This is totally consuming our time.
We'll just put our reserves of cherry pits to good use.
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #110) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:14 am

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I have reads. They coincide with DGBs on the most part.
We have an entire conversation/ War Room chat going down in my Devotional, so that is the focus of my attention.

I read SpyreX as scum.
What happened?
He died.
I have my reads, and unlike you I make sure they are tested. The benefits of actually using the Devotional with DGB.

@ DTM: Clearly you don't get what "cherry pits" refer to.
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #111) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:20 am

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Feysal, Equinox, hito.
In that order.
If I could lay out how the bodies would hit the floor, that's how they'd look. (Only using the names you gave me, if I had free reign, you'd be there too.)
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #112) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:32 am

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We're fairly equal in-QT; no one really "leads" discussion as we're fairly equal on posts and responses.

Tajo, your brains need to be splattered with a coconut.
You're town enough... for now.
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #113) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:36 am

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I'm heading out too; need to cram for a test that I've been putting off far too long.

Cheerio!
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #114) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:37 am

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Oh hey, p.s.
If all scumteam members telegraph the Traitor, it'll be more likely picked up than if one person does it.

I Bake. I can't receive that well. So the more apparent the easier it is. xD
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Post Post #1653 (isolation #115) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:27 am

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OHMYGOD ALMASTERGM.
<333

Persephone turns into Ares?
This game couldn't get better!

/back to studying
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #116) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:10 pm

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Nobody Special wrote:
For the record, I have not yet communicated with AGM.
Hellooooooo just-in-case-he-is-hammered-and-flips-scum-i-need-to-distance-from-my-minions-of-evil.
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #117) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:13 pm

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But him being evil confirms DGB and FF as town.
HELLOOOOO MASONRIES. <3
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #118) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:22 pm

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Hang on, didn't DTM Hide behind nopoint and clear him as town? :?
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #119) » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:30 pm

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I've seen nopoint as scum.
We were scumbuddies in Trader Mafia (another zoraster game- which was awesome BTW) and recently in Blackest Night Mafia, where I grabbed him by the neck and strung him up single-handedly.

So, Equinox, why are YOU not voting him then? Because hito's more glaringly ovscum than NOPOINT?

:?
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #120) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:36 pm

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I was the one who called for SpyreX's head.
He's blatantly ovtown when he is, and this game he was failing miserably at getting ANY form of townread from me. I did the whole "SpyreX's head needs lobbing" and DGB was like "that we can do".

Faraday, I told DGB SypreX was scum. I convinced her, in-QT, that he was the best vig shot. He died. And Mina totally agreed with me D1, so that helped- the knowing I'm not alone.
SpyreX is amazing when town.
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #121) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:39 pm

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Lost Butterfly wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
populartajo wrote:why didnt you guys vig me? I thought all your followers, specially HITO and even YOU thought I was scum by the end of day
Hito really didn't want to kill you, but we compromised after I made a voting analysis, narrowed it down to a couple of players, run it by Andrius, and the credit goes to Andrius for picking SpyreX.
LOL
That's right.
Andy's too dumb to be useful.

Its not like I'm improving at all. *coughBlackestNightMafiacough*
:(
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #122) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:11 pm

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Lost Butterfly wrote:that wasn't what I found funny, the whole situation just reads really absurd. i thought you were the vig for a time, especially with your not so subtle LOLness a few pages ago.
:(
I totally claim credit for Spy's death though. :D
Totally my idea.
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:10 am

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Ok, update.
Just laid out a massive case on my thoughts for tonight's vig-shot in the Temple.
Can we just lynch AGM now?
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #124) » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:43 am

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I'm going to reiterate what I said in The Devotional here; apologies if its boring. :P

If we infer the following:
a) scum are evenly distributed among the temples
b) if there's one scum among the temple of judgement
c) further justification is the one scum being in the same group as the cop (Lady LaLa)
d) FLIPS:

JUDGEMENT: Benmage. AGM. DTMaster.

DTMaster claimed Hider, and is thus a VERY POWERFUL TEMPLE. Cop and Hider? So there's probably one scum hiding in there.
I was originally posting this for DGB to relay to hitovig, but this works too.

We should lynch one of Benmage/AGM.
Unvote, Vote: AlmasterGM


If this isn't clear that's cool. I'll clarify.
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Post Post #1966 (isolation #125) » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:56 am

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I saw that, Equinox.
I walked right by it and chuckled.
It wouldn't be the first time a mod said something to prevent breakage.
But still; the likely hood of ONE scum being in Judgement is THIS HIGH. *stretches arms out really tall*
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #126) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:29 am

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What case, Equinox?
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #127) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:56 am

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Andy wrote: Jack is also scum, but he won't say it. No wait he already did P1.

Jack still hasn't outlined why I'm scum besides for some misplaced gut-read.


...

I subscribe to the theory that Jack is a smart cookie, and doesn't do things aimlessly.
So why do this? Because he's scum and doing his thing. Namely: sowing discord and "oh no jack wouldn't do a thing like that because that would be dumb". Seriously. He's either A: scum B: retarded. And we know he isn't the latter. /allude to Greek Mythology and how we were supposed to be together so I think I would know if he were mental/postal ;D


...

Though, how exactly is Jack doing the "NS claimed scum to me" a gambit that's supposed to HELP us at all? Besides for making me want him strung up.
And a side of the traitor-fishing. :D
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #128) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:57 am

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Ok that looked a whole lot more impressive in notepad. :P

His D1 gambit was to do WHAT now?
And it wasn't to kepp important-pr-jack alive longer since he's VT.
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #129) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:02 am

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Sure thing Equinox. *runs off to offer fruit to Our Goddess*
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #130) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:48 pm

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AGM, I still think you're scum (sry horrid slot) and you're not reading. lol

I'm TOWNIER THAN THOU. Don't even try otherwise. This is like BNM; you and your scumteam are boned. ;)
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #131) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:14 pm

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Lost Butterfly wrote:AGM is town (Andrius was very scummy during the course of the game)
Everything will be made clear when men with arms left die.
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #132) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:29 pm

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Post Post #2090 (isolation #133) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:19 am

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Sorry Equinox, but I'm holding my ground.
“When a person of good character decides on something, they need to hold their ground and budge for nothing.”
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #134) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:39 am

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Not if they think the number of town PRs are extremely limited. Like fakeclaiming Doc/Cop in a Newbie game where everyone is VT. Boom: scumlynch.
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #135) » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:20 am

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AGM, I want you lynched.
Sorry. :(
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Post Post #2140 (isolation #136) » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:35 am

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You are reading me incorrectly.
Yes, I'm playing off, but this is for effect.

The Temple of Rewards has a plan.
Be glad to know you are a part of it.
A tool in our design for righteousness.
Because you, AlmasterGM, Ares, are scum and in our way.
Fall down and pave the way for the righteous townies.
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #137) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:05 am

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Seriously, our little Neighborhood of Vig-oversight is working quite well. *bows*

FARADAY. </3 OF COURSE IM TOWN.

Going to do some ISO hunting later. VERY disappointed that tajo was NK'd by scum. But in the end I did think he was town.

And we're over 325 in QT posts now, ftr.

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Post Post #2200 (isolation #138) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:15 am

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hito wrote:I'm really weirded out that both DTM and myself are alive. I suspect DTM was roleblocked (if scum don't have a RB when they're up against a hider and a vig...jesus) and me being given a free vig shot makes me think that the scumteam felt pretty safe from me. Feysal I can understand - the question is, who is/are the other scumbag(s?) who wasn't at all worried about me?
TOTALLY just posted something on him in-QT.
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Post Post #2215 (isolation #139) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:51 pm

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Benmage is forcing me to bash my head against a wall.

Working on a plan in the Temple of Rewards, stay tuned!
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #140) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:10 pm

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DTM and LB are town.
As is hito, but we knew that already. :roll:

Andy_Deductor wins at finding more town.
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #141) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:14 pm

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Well, its always nice to be sure, via deduction. :D
You ARE amazing as scum, and your first scum-loss was because of me, so. :roll:

But yeah. I'm working slowly to establish my reads and crap.

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Post Post #2222 (isolation #142) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:20 pm

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Oh stop, Faraday. I couldn't support you with my Bakery, its just a small business; we couldn't settle down that easily. :(
*sigh*
Though lulz if this is Mina. :P
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #143) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:23 pm

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NO I DIDNT CALL HER A CHEAP WHORE.
T_T
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #144) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:25 pm

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Mina immitating Faraday, is what I thought. <3 Mina
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #145) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:30 pm

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We have a lead!!
Vote: nopointinactingup


Farday is snowflake? lulz
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #146) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:35 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Hey

Who did DTM hide with?
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #147) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:39 pm

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OK SO VOTE NOPOINT.
We'll get hito to spray one of the others' brains on the wall and then we're good. :D

/zor mod-meta time... after dinner then...
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #148) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:41 pm

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^lol who is this clown?
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #149) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:42 pm

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That was supposed to be pointing to Eddard. :P
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #150) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:44 pm

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Exactly...
unless they kill one and block the other. :/


predit: OH STOP FARADAY. <3 SPOILER FOR GAME OF THRONES
BUT EDDARD GOT KILLED BOOK 1. :lol:
DONT READ THIS IF YOU HAVENT READ GAME OF THRONES

Mod Edit: added spoiler tags around that. I take spoiling Game of Thrones VERY seriously. If you're not careful, I'll make you take the black.
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #151) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:05 pm

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zorastermod wrote: If you're not careful, I'll make you take the black.
"Ours is the Fury."

Fruity temple reasons are cool and all but me/DGB/hito QT would be awesome.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #152) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:29 pm

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Hoooooly hell DTM.
..
DTM, you are one lucky bastard.
I was campaigning for you being killed last night for confirming you. Good thing they didn't listen. :lol:
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #153) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:37 pm

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Because nopoint fails at scum.
Again.

Seriously, are you a Bomb or something, npiau? I'm willing to hamemr you and all, just let me know first.
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Post Post #2293 (isolation #154) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:50 pm

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DTMaster wrote:Also Andruis: I assume you had a scum read leading into the night. Because that sentence makes noooooooo seeeennnnnnnnnnssssse at al.
What makes no sense?
I advocated a Feysal kill because he was a scum-read.
But it would have been soooo easy to confirm you as town OR kill you if you were scum.
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #155) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:26 pm

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So yeah.
ISO'd Feysal.
Corvuus is town via Feysal.

nopoint/DTM is lynch for today. And if DTM is scum, we've got the game! :D
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #156) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:44 pm

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Unvote, Vote: DTMaster

Temple of Rewards is on the march.
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Post Post #2302 (isolation #157) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:50 pm

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The read was irrelevant, DTM. If you were town you would have survived, (barring Maf. RB, which is why we didn't shoot you) if you were scum you'd be deadscum.
But yes, I read you as leaning scum.
Confirming you as town would have been a bonus. :)
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Post Post #2311 (isolation #158) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:32 pm

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I had a kill-list. We all have kill lists for each night.
Summarizing later, I'm being Skyped.
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #159) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:55 pm

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Naw, I wanted you dead.

tajo kept squirming over him getting potentially shot by us.

My kill list, after taking you off was [[Feysal, nopoint, Benmage]]. DTM, you've always been in the back of my mind, with confirming you. I entered N2 with that kill list, and you always there with a "you know we could confirm benmage and nopoint via this way" deal.

DGB finally killed your kill with something like "we have too many leads on scum to confirm DTM". So I then switched to my next big target.

I don't know how much goes through to hito by means of words, but I know he shot Feysal, so. :D

So you want me to do what? Summarize our QT? Or was that for Corvuus? :?
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #160) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:06 pm

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"Bus"?
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #161) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:31 pm

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I'll sweep, DGB.
We're not lynching until our Goddess gets back.
The info-dump isn't over.
We've been working on stuff in the QT, so might share tomorrow if we're still here.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #162) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:35 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Benmage wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Exactly. Hito was the obv kill. Tajo was lynch bait, vig-bait, even.
And ur reasoning for why they didn't?

I think I know why. But I will only know for sure if DTM flips scum.

If DTM flips scum, we pretty much have the game wrapped up.
QFT
Srs bsns, if DTM is scum this game is over.
Rewards has this down!
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #163) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:41 am

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My contingency plan is shooting scum.
Which is FAR better than anyone else outside the temple has done. :roll:
Don't give me that crap, Equinox.
So who ARE you willing to lynch?
Inquiring minds (and pineapple launchers) want to know.
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #164) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:42 am

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Comments? NS and DTM are scum on the scum wagon.
I'd support a nopoint lynch second to DTM.
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Post Post #2488 (isolation #165) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:44 am

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Fine.
I can settle to lynch nopoint.
But I'll still push for a DTM-pineapple-to-the-face tonight in the Temple of Rewards, so. :P
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #166) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:49 am

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You know, Faraday, shooting people from SAIII has seemed to work pretty well so far for this here temple.
You feeling lucky?

predit: Faraday do you have ANY scumreads? Like, anyone AT ALL? Because all I'm hearing from you and Equinox is "sheep tracker, sheep bus driver; oh wait they don't exist back to mah town-reads".

^bitterness that is usually confined to the Temple
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Post Post #2533 (isolation #167) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:02 am

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AGM pretends he can meta-read me, DTM. :roll:

Well yeah.
Obviously the Vig is doing quite well by himself, and is NOT scum-influenced.
Why? Because he's shot two of them. :lol:

*bows to hito*
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #168) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:03 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
You can't save DTM.

If he's not lynched, he'll be vig'ed.

Let's get this show on the road.
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Post Post #2543 (isolation #169) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:08 am

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hito and I are town.
There is no denying this fact. :roll:

Yes I claimed creds for the SpyreX kill.
I definitely helped in the Feysal-kill decision-making process.

Its not actually an inside joke. I'm incredibly readable and obvious as scum. :P
He's wrong because I'm town; he and VV are near-spot on regards to reading me.

Links in my wiki. :D
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #170) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:12 am

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How have the NKs been werid?
hito has done an amazing job with the "shooting them scumzorz" and DGB and I have some theories over the NK targets and why. :P
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #171) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:12 am

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And if anyone cares, The Bakery branch of The Temple of Rewards is about to break 400!!
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #172) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:16 am

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How the hell did AGM "reignite" a case? All he did was go "imma vt dont shoot plz... oh and andy is scumz0rz from an unreliable tell and from me not even reading lulz".
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #173) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:19 am

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You mean AGM flipped town. :P
Yes, I know I modded that game. :lol:
I don't see how this is comparable. AGM's lynch was at deadline with plenty to go off of. Yours was scum-led by Fate.


predits: Ok I see what you're saying.
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Post Post #2564 (isolation #174) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:44 am

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Its not like her ideas didn't lead to Feysal-scum. :roll:
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #175) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:16 am

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1. DTM
2. nopoint
3. corvuus

^ lynch preference order
My suggested shot will be whoever's left +.
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #176) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:47 pm

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Yeah, that's right.
Keep non-voting LB and Equinox.
We know who's not getting a piece of the victory fruitcake when town wins! :D
hito join the DTM wagon plzkthx.<3
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #177) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:58 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Andrius wrote:Yeah, that's right.
Keep non-voting LB and Equinox.
We know who's not getting a piece of the victory fruitcake when town wins! :D
hito join the DTM wagon plzkthx.<3
Well we know Fishy will never vote DTM, haha.
Hence me not including him. :P
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #178) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:12 pm

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lol @ useless Butterfly.
Well.
We're not in LyLo.
What does this mean?
There's ONE SCUM LEFT.
>8D
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Post Post #2653 (isolation #179) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:13 pm

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Oh no wait, technically we're not in LyLo if there are 2. It'd be MyLo right?
NEVERMIND.
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #180) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:16 pm

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No we didn't shoot LB.
Our kill is always the first one listed.

We shot Equinox.
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Post Post #2656 (isolation #181) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:19 pm

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Meh. I feel like we could be in 4:2 now. :/ (Sorry, these gods don't count since they don't matter for wincons.)
Which means if we lynch incorrectly there'll be a crapload of pressure on hito to perform. :P

And I totally read the whole thread overnight, hoping we'd shoot scum.
Evidentially Eq isn't scum.
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #182) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:50 pm

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We might want to consider massclaim.
Like srs bsns massclaim.
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #183) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:06 am

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nopointinactingup wrote:WTF?! Who proposed killing Equinox. I want NAMES.
It was me. (And DGB, of course.)

Hell, it is time.

I killed Equinox. It should have been apparently obvious since Day One. With the whole: "would you, as VT, sacrifice yourself for a PR?" hito was my permanent Bodyguard. Him claiming Vigilante for me drew both any kills and RBs away from me.
Now, he's not dead. Which has bothered me and DGB for the past two days and nights.

The kill-list for us came down to [[Equinox, farside, Benmage, hito]]. LB was town via deduction, as was nopoint. They both claimed to know I was the Vigilante since D2, which means if they wanted to kill me it would have been as easy as not saying anything and shooting me. Hell, they would have gotten a hito mislynch out of the deal too. So they were out. hito... we've been waiting for hito to get shot. Every night since N2, we've been waiting for the scumbags to shoot him.

I was convinced that the tajo kill was done to try and find me; why else would the scum kill TAJO if not to hunt for the Pineapple-Launcher within our temple?

It came down to Equinox and hito. And we were waiting for the scum to kill him. Which hasn't happened.

So yeah.

tl;dr:
Andy is Vig.
hito played meatshield for me.

Shooting SpyreX was totally my idea. Feysal was as well. Equinox was me going "how about Equinox?" and then both of us pulled evidence and stuff. I reread the game thread hoping to strengthen my read. :igmeou: *sigh* Should have shot hito when I had the chance; sorry bud. :(

We didn't let hito claim to keep him alive; we let him claim vig to keep ME alive, secret, and RB-free.


As for crumbs, I used "Hades" for a reason: "My power is Death." I'm pretty sure my reaction to SpyreX's flip was a dead give-away too. ;)


-Andy

p.s. Shooting SAIII players has worked out pretty well so far for me. ;) Sorry Spy and Feysal. :(
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Post Post #2664 (isolation #184) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:07 am

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As far as hito's opinion goes, I didn't get it. Either he didn't have one or DGB didn't pass it to me. :/

Now, I think we either need to:
massclaim > lynch > if its town then I have to shoot correctly
no lynch > I no-kill > 5-player LyLo or no lylo
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #185) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:55 pm

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I never got the suggestion during the night, hito. I just got it now from DGB.

Though yeah.
We've been operating under the fact that you're scum, since the scum haven't shot obvvig-hito. And now I'm outed so you have your chance. :)
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #186) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:16 pm

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Exactly.

We considered that they were looking for the real vig. Hence dead-tajo.
But then when you WEREN'T dying we considered hito-scum.
And because you'd be scum you couldn't kill me until I was outed. :P
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #187) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:23 pm

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Because I read Cov as town via the ISO with Feysal. Silly, perhaps, but that's how it went. LB and nopoint said they thought I was the Vig (in-thread for LB, in-QT for nopoint) so I ruled them out as scum because they could have just shot me and moved on with their lives.

No, I only shared the target with DGB. Unless she told him, which she didn't say she did. N1 and N2 I didn't tell her who I was shooting, for the surprise effect. :P I was worried I'd get killed last night, and my kill resolves after the mafia kill so I decided to tell DGB who I'd shoot before the end of the night, just in case. I don't know how much DGB tells hito, but I got a list of everyone's reads to work with for one of the nights. :/
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #188) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:24 pm

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EBWOP: I claimed in-QT fairly early. I was crumbing left and right, especially with the "Hades" deal. After that DGB pulled the "would you self-sacrfice for a PR" and then we moved from there.
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Post Post #2678 (isolation #189) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:47 pm

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SAIII is over, I can now say this:
Shooting my Cult-Buddies from SAIII worked pretty well for me. ;)
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #190) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:35 pm

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No, but
I
shot
my
scumbuddies.
You just a poser. :P
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #191) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:59 pm

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I don't feel comfortable with a Corvuus lynch. Not right now; I'd need to ISO him.
I ruled him town because of Feysal's ISO, and I haven't looked into him yet. :/

Sorry for the inactivity, the QT's been DEAD and I just replaced into another game and read 70 pages in the past day, so I've been stretched.
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Post Post #2734 (isolation #192) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:47 pm

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Ok, since I'm outed, this'll come here instead of the QT.

IF there are 2 scumbags left we're in MyLo.

We need hito to die.
All the scumbag has to do is kill me tonight, and then hito is uber-framed. And hito would kill me anyway because I'll shoot him, and he'd just have to spin the WIFOM-wheels in order to stick around.

If we mislynch today we lose. Because they just kill me tonight and since their kill resolves before mine I die and we hit 2:2 and they win.

We've gotta be sure on this. :/
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #193) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:15 pm

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*insert facepalm here*
I completely forgot about them there immortals. Sorry. :oops:
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Post Post #2745 (isolation #194) » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:30 pm

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I think hito needs death. If he sticks around any longer than this he's going to cause more trouble.
I'll shoot/no-shoot accordingly to whatever flip.
And DGB and nopoint will be here to help, so.
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #195) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:37 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
I will wait for you.
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #196) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:23 pm

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Thanks hito! I love being confirmed town. :D

Sadly, I still think you need to be lynched today.
Sorry bro-goroshi, but people who willingly claim third party are meeeehhh. You've offered no way to joint-win, and only want to stick around to keep your ass alive. No offense, but either way you dying is cool. And Nobody Special's reaction was LULZ.

I still think you're normal scum. Sorry.
I'll vote when we're ready.
Going to send up a flare for DGB.
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #197) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:57 pm

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hitogoroshi wrote:also wait, if you think I'm normal scum, why not just shoot me...?
You were my bodyguard, remember? :roll:
I needed you.
But not anymore.
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Post Post #2770 (isolation #198) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:12 am

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Why the hell am I going to shoot him if he's got ARMOR?
Lynch him today. If he's SK, great. If he's mafia, BETTER. Then we go for the last one [?], if any.
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Post Post #2772 (isolation #199) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:28 am

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hito, you just played the survival card.
That doesn't net you many town-points.

Yeah, but we're not letting you GET to endgame to test this.
Sorry, but me killing you has ALWAYS been the gameplan right around N4.

Now, if you DO flip SK then we go back and hunt for all the people who pushed your lynch D2, and those who thought you were SK.
Then we have the scum too. :D
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