Zachtown in the mountains (Game over TOWN WINS!)

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I know 3 people in this cast. I feel a newb all over again.

I would random vote, but since they don't count yet...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I know 3 people in this cast. I feel a newb all over again.

I would random vote, but since they don't count yet...

I think I was in a game with you....where you either flaked...got replaced...or active lurked...i'm blanking and don't want to lookup my own history...you remember anything by chance?

Nope, sorry.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Redcoyote

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Redcoyote

Wow, this guy is good. I think he got scum already! We should totally form a bandwagon around this vote.

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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Redcoyote

Wow, this guy is good. I think he got scum already! We should totally form a bandwagon around this vote.

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YA QFT.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Make sense?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

^^ Why is that relevant? It's not like every game is going to be the same as this one ^^

Sticking to my vote right now. I'm happy with it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hey guys.

Still liking my Redcoyote vote.

Not much other suspects as of yet.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

uhm... so when kingdavid says he forgot it means nothing, but when jason says he forgot it's a scumtell? Seriously?

I'm still happy with my vote.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Waiting for a dry-fit defense before my vote changes. Def tempted to vote him though

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

OMG PEOPLE ARE JOINING MY WAGON ^_^

I'm happy with either of dry-fit/redcoyote lynched, preferably both

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No. Redcoyote and Dry-Fit are the people I want to see lynch. idc about the others

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

oh
well, if you know him on a personal level, what do you find his role to be?

YEAH, HAVING A LIFE IS SUCH A SCUMTELL

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I like a dry-fit lynch

Furcolow seems to like any lynch that either is generally agreed upon by the majority, or that threatens him.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Dry-Fit

. I am switching my vote, mainly because I want to see two lynches today, and with the rate this town is thinking, I don't see two lynches happening soon. And only one or no lynches will be bad for us.

so:

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And I'm getting a bit tired of the players doing the "OMG, HE CALLED ME SCUM. I'M TOWN SO

HE

MUST BE SCUM!". It's really a bad way of both townie ignorance or bad scum bussing.

I still like the RC wagon because RC has not convinced me otherwise to not keep my vote on him. He will still be my prime target, regardless if dry-fit gets lynched soon.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Thanks for proving my point.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Thanks for proving my point.

And what would that be, exactly? That whoever speaks second is wrong and probably scum?

Oh and I don't know if I mentioned this, but:
1. What did you like about the RC wagon?
2. Why is Dry-fit the superior choice for today?

Your predictable way of posting. The way you post with emotion. You feel somehow attacked by my statement (which in fact didn't even specifically mean you, since Furcalow did exactly the same), and then you go out of your way to find dirt about me in any sort of way. This is very bad town play, because scum can totally predict your behavior in these situations, and simply can choose not to attack you because they know you'll get all aggressive about it. They can simply lay low while you self destruct on any player who remotely mentions you as a suspect. If the sort of players like you and Fur were a king in a kingmaker setup, I'm quite sure a townie will get axed by emotion.

Let me answer your questions:
- My first RC vote was indeed random, but his way of posting never even convinced me to remove my vote from him. Post #55 of him is a simple post of making someone suspicious with hardly anything to go on, and in #60 he again joins a vote of someone else, potentially hoping for a bandwagon vote. (First Sotty, then Nikanor, all with very weak evidence for doing so). That was reason enough to keep my vote on RC for a while. Then in post #169, he even throws a half ass defense for dry-fit for no reason whatsoever. While in my eyes, dry-fits action is hell of a lot more scummy, RC reaction towards it is even weirder considering he wasn't even related to the action, yet defends the one player scummier then him.
- My vote is far from opportunistic bandwagoning. It is my first vote switch this game, which is hardly opportunistic bandwagoning considering 90% of this game switched their votes more often. Yes, it is a vote to get a lynch, but frankly, what else are we doing here today? In the end, we need to lynch to win, and frankly, I rather see two lynches then one or none. Why? Because scum controls the nights, and we as town should control the days. The more we lynch, the more we control the game. What is happening now is that everyone is jumping all over the place, which is perfect for scum because they can better control the lynch situation that way.
I've stated that I think Dry-Fit is scummy. I switch my vote towards him because it could result in a lynch of a player who I consider scummy. That isn't bandwagoning. Bandwagoners jump on when they never even stated they suspect the certain person, but just jump on because other players 'convinced' them to do so.
- I like the RC wagon because I suspect RC to be scum. Any player sharing that idea is all welcome to join into my vote. And again, 3 votes is hardly a wagon.
- Dry-Fit isn't a superior vote in any way. I suspect both, and if I can make it happen, I'd want them to be both lynched today. But if you actually took notice of my posts, this question was stupid since I already answered it.

As for RC:
- You should really try to call me KScope, because I doubt many people know who you mean if use my other name
- I'm not expecting a defense from you in any way, because well... you would probably only tell me what you think I want to hear, and I would probably not buy it at all because I'm too stubborn anyway. It would be a waste of time. I'm simply keeping my eye on you and so far, you haven't really acted in a way I expected a townie in this game would be. If you want to read my reasons for suspecting you, just read above.

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I don't do town reads. Townie points are blurred. I only read in scumtells, which makes people more likely to be scum. Furc has made some, but personally, they feel more like emotional responses. Jason didn't get on my scumdar as of yet

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Furcolow for trainwreck of the year

Doing a better read later.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yay dry-fit scum!

Vote: Redcoyote

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Also
Yes, Percy is scummy
Yes, Benmage is likely town because of one post.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

We lynch either Red or Percy today.

Any other lynch proposals are scummy and ignorant

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Percy

Red tomorrow k?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[/b]Unvote Vote Percy[/b]

damn bold

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

unvote vote: percy

ok, that was annoying >.<

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

RC is more obv

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I posted my RC suspicions in my biggest post in this thread. You can add the whole dry-fit situation to it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Let's lynch either Percy or Redcoyote before thursday, so we don't waste this time.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I couldn't care less about who dies out of RC/Percy. I suspect them both, they have reasonable votes on them, and since we only have 2 days left, I'd hate to not lynch today.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Let's lynch Percy today and take a closer look at RedCoyote tomorrow.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Percylynch plz

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Kaleidoscope, why do you think Percy is scummier than Red Coyote? The only time I see you mention him before Benmage suggests his lynch is when you answer his questions and say that he's prone to OMGUS--and frame it as if you think he's a townie. Just repeating, "Percy is scum, lynch Percy and Red, why isn't Percy dead yet?" is rhetoric.

This time, sell me the

Percy

lynch in one paragraph or more.

I'm not good with orders, sorry. You can put that request up your ass. I don't think Percy is scummier then Redcoyote, but I want a second lynch today, and Percy has the biggest wagon. If either dies tomorrow, I will campaign for the other tomorrow.

Sorry, I forgot you'd explained your RC read because I remembered that wall as being mostly defence. That said:

1) I still don't like that your longest post of the game is 70% defence, and you only explained your read when asked on it.

2) I can see where you're coming from, but your reasons for suspecting Red could be better articulated:

My first RC vote was indeed random, but his way of posting never even convinced me to remove my vote from him. Post #55 of him is a simple post of making someone suspicious with hardly anything to go on, and in #60 he again joins a vote of someone else, potentially hoping for a bandwagon vote. (First Sotty, then Nikanor, all with very weak evidence for doing so). That was reason enough to keep my vote on RC for a while. Then in post #169, he even throws a half ass defense for dry-fit for no reason whatsoever. While in my eyes, dry-fits action is hell of a lot more scummy, RC reaction towards it is even weirder considering he wasn't even related to the action, yet defends the one player scummier then him.

So you suspect him because you think his votes were for weak reasons? Can you be more specific about what in particular you thought was weak about his points against Sotty and Nikanor? Also, why did you find Dry-Fit scummy? You don't explain it in that post.[/quote]He hops on as a second vote twice in a span of 5 posts, really early in the game, when there isn't much to go on from yet. I don't see that as a good way to help the town. Dry fit was scummy because of his tunnel vision on jason, when 2 other people did exactly the same yet received no attention

And wait, you find Dry-Fit's action (do you mean his interactions with IKD and jason, or is there something else I'm missing) a hell of a lot scummier...but RC's reaction is weirder. Can you just clarify which did you find more suspicious: DF's action, or RC's defence of DF's action?

Does it matter?

DF became scummy because of his action towards jason.
RC became more scummy because of his odd defense for DF, which made zero sense, adding to his already scummy case thus far. That DF turned up scum doesn't help his case one bit.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

fix my quote tags plz.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No, In general, Percy .

Just check out my game history and you'll see I'm a oneliner king.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

ugh... c'mon town... are we seriously going to stall this?

Unvote Vote: Redcoyote

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Percy can say his stuff tomorrow.

Hammertime!


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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

NO

STOP










HAMMERTIME!



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[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Percy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Another thought:

I annoyed KScope until he

obeyed my orders

provided reasons for his vote, and during his lecture he commented that I would make an awful Kingmaker because I get all emotional, or whatever his point was.

I just remembered I

was

a kingmaker, and I

didn't

listen to my gut read and ended up killing a player because he wasn't on a scum lynching wagon (he had declared a townread of the scum just before the lynch happened). I went for that tell (and I blew it up into a case and tied myself in knots etc) rather than my solid read, which was actually on scum. Link, for those interested.

I was a bad kingmaker. But that's because I was playing from your playbook, KScope.

The fact you took the time/effort just to post

that

(while you should know by now that I really couldn't care less about that) just convinces me more that you are indeed scum.

Yes, I push lynches, never denied that. Always did, always will.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

OHFFS,

CAN WE LYNCH PERCY AND HAVE A FRESH START?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Why is Percy not dead yet

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

yeah, but unless you have statistics, lurking is not a scumtell.

Still want to see Percy lynched here.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

yeah, but unless you have statistics, lurking is not a scumtell.

Still want to see Percy lynched here.

are you willing to put your neck on the line for a percy lynch?

Haven't I done that whole game?

Still, saying this just screams 2for1, which is totally scumthinking.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Pretty sure we are fine as a town, there is no need to spazz out. Let's lynch someone who has polarized us somewhat (BS, LrdWhyt's replacement, Percy, Kaleidoscope, Mina) and move on to the next phase.

Wow, just wow. What a blatant scumpost, showing that you really couldn't care less who gets lynched.

You're going down next when Percy is lynched.

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Pretty sure we are fine as a town, there is no need to spazz out. Let's lynch someone who has polarized us somewhat (BS, LrdWhyt's replacement, Percy, Kaleidoscope, Mina) and move on to the next phase.

Wow, just wow. What a blatant scumpost, showing that you really couldn't care less who gets lynched.

You're going down next when Percy is lynched.

How is wanting to lynch and use the town's killing power scummy? You're baffling me, here.

Oh, it isn't that. It's the fact that you're not really caring who is going to get lynched, which isn't really sitting well with me.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Percy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No offense, but trainwreck Furc is probably town.

We need a Percylynch

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yeah, that makes no sense.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No offense, but trainwreck Furc is probably town.

We need a Percylynch

Empking is most likely our last scum.

Everything his predecessors did add up to this conclusion. But sometimes even when everything is laid out like so, things don't work out.

I have no worries you'll be able to get a majority on Empking tomorrow.

Therefore Furc, who is the biggest town threat needs to die now.

^^This^^

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

but your still advocating a mislynch in your opinion over a scum lynch?

Exactly my thought.

Yes, Furcolow is useless, but not worthy of lynching.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I disagree. I've been getting weird vibes from Mina as well, but we should actually be lynching Percy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

@KScope - I have no idea where you're standing on lynches right now. There was a point you agreed with Benmage that Emp was the last scum and that furc needed to die, and now you're back on Percy. Why Percy today and what happened to your Empking as scum read?

Are you sure we are reading the same thread here?

I NEVER said that Emp was the last scum.
I NEVER said that furc needed to die.

Do your homework

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Percy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hey Nul,

Vote Percy please

XoXo Scope

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Does anyone find it funny that most of Kscope's posts usually consists of one sentence along the lines of 'lynch x'


and hes been playing for

4

6 years

hahahahaaaha

Fixed.

Where is your Percy vote btw?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Percy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm not lurking. I still want Percy dead.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No reasons? Oh please...

Just because I didn't bother repeating them every post doesn't mean they aren't there.

And no, I didn't add anything more then I need to, and that is vote who I think is scum, which I did.