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-.- lol concerned. I tought something similar. "I have a town meta here ^^".Concerned wrote:
Greetings , ironically when I saw your name I thought that it was good I'd have a scum-meta on someone, and then I remember you were actually town and I was just dead wrong... lolThe1fifi wrote:HI concerned =)Matteh says :
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it is indeed to provoke a reaction. but not related to meta.
Self voting isn't something scummy, and voting someone for playing nice and joking in the RVS is scummy as f***.
Vote julienvonwolfefor trying to make up a reason to mask his true reason for jumping in the wagon. Being scum.Matteh says :
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By self voting, i got 3 votes. With another person jumping in, it makes 4, which is a pretty good point to start a serious wagon.
I self voted exactly to create a reaction from someone, so i could get a read, cause this game is starting slowly.
You jumped on the wagon acusing me of being funny, and not serious. In my opinion the RVS had not ended. I believe we can say they did now cause we something solid to start working.
What you acused be of, is nothing scummy. If you are going to vote people for being relaxed in the RVS.. well, you have a lot of people to vote on.
What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed. You definetely acted like i was hoping scum would act.Matteh says :
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FixedThe1fifi wrote:By self voting, i got 3 votes. With another person jumping in, it makes 4, which is a pretty good point to start a serious wagon.
I self voted exactly to create a reaction from someone, so i could get a read, cause this game is starting slowly.
You jumped on the wagon acusing me of being funny, and not serious. In my opinion the RVS had not ended. I believe we can say they did now cause we have something solid to start working.
What you acused me of, is nothing scummy. If you are going to vote people for being relaxed in the RVS.. well, you have a lot of people to vote on.
What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed. You definetely acted like i was hoping scum would act.Matteh says :
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I most certainly did not. The vote was MASKED indeed as a fun RSV vote. The true motives i already explained.julienvonwolfe wrote:Fifi, I voted for you since by not being serious one could argue that you were trying to buddy up to just about everybody, which I consider scummy.
Also, was your vote in the RVS or not? You've just said that you self-voted for a very thorougly thought-out reason, which is certainly not random. Yet before you told me that it was simply an RVS fun vote.Matteh says :
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Bold 1 - Really? So anytime i say anything, i am suposed to give you links to something like statistics or articles or metaing to prove it?julienvonwolfe wrote:Okay, so you figure you'd get a reaction from self-voting. Of course you would, since it's a bloody stupid thing to do. What, can I ask, would you expect townie players to do, if you expect scum to always do what I did? Should the other people on your wagon, assuming they're town, have said to themselves "hmm, he is self-voting. This is obviously a gambit designed to catch scum, and therefore I will treat it as not suspicious," or what?
So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy.A statistical analysis or some metagaming would be ideal, otherwise it's just an unproven theory with nothing to support it.
As for your saying the vote was masked as an RVS, that's not what you said when you said this: "You jumped on the wagon acusing me of being funny, and not serious. In my opinion the RVS had not ended." This contradiction causes me to get the sense you're just squirming around at the moment.
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ConfidAnon, what exactly about Fifi's point do you agree with, and why?
Bold 2 - Could you do that statistic /meta thing about what you said? Otherwise that is wrong and can't be used, because people are just variables like x and y, and everyone reacts and plays the esaxct same way (irony).
Am i the only one seing how fail that is? Plus, let me adress something else:
When i said the RVS wasn't not over they definetely were not over. As i posted something like a self vote to get reactions i wouldn't do it like:
"Self vote bla bla, and btw this is the end of RVS because i m fishing for a reaction".
The RVS ended when you voted me for self voting. From that point onwards, we had something to work with.
Everytime you post i have a stronger scum feeling from you. You are just trying to hard to make me look bad, cause you know i am right.[/area]Matteh says :
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FixedThe1fifi wrote:
Bold 1 - Really? So anytime i say anything, i am suposed to give you links to something like statistics or articles or metaing to prove it?julienvonwolfe wrote:Okay, so you figure you'd get a reaction from self-voting. Of course you would, since it's a bloody stupid thing to do. What, can I ask, would you expect townie players to do, if you expect scum to always do what I did? Should the other people on your wagon, assuming they're town, have said to themselves "hmm, he is self-voting. This is obviously a gambit designed to catch scum, and therefore I will treat it as not suspicious," or what?
So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy.A statistical analysis or some metagaming would be ideal, otherwise it's just an unproven theory with nothing to support it.
As for your saying the vote was masked as an RVS, that's not what you said when you said this: "You jumped on the wagon acusing me of being funny, and not serious. In my opinion the RVS had not ended."This contradiction causes me to get the sense you're just squirming around at the moment.
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ConfidAnon, what exactly about Fifi's point do you agree with, and why?
Bold 2 - Could you do that statistic /meta thing about what you said? Otherwise that is wrong and can't be used, because people are just variables like x and y, and everyone reacts and plays the esaxct same way (irony).
Am i the only one seing how fail that is? Plus, let me adress something else:
When i said the RVS wasn't not over they definetely were not over. As i posted something like a self vote to get reactions i wouldn't do it like:
"Self vote bla bla, and btw this is the end of RVS because i m fishing for a reaction".
The RVS ended when you voted me for self voting. From that point onwards, we had something to work with.
Everytime you post i have a stronger scum feeling from you. You are just trying to hard to make me look bad, cause you know i am right.[/area]Matteh says :
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Reason i voted you:
What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed
Reason why you say i voted you:
So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy[/b]
umm. not quite the same thing i believeMatteh says :
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FixedThe1fifi wrote:Reason i voted you:
What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed
Reason why you say i voted you:
umm. not quite the same thing i believeSo, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummyMatteh says :
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@bv310 : Lots of people can't be metaed. Especially people who have constant changes of toughts and emotions. Just because i play basket with my white shirt, doesn't mean e play football with the black one
Julien and Cs raised good points about my play being bad for town. I reckon i am tuneling and being stuborn.
But i didn't say it was suspicious not to be friendly.
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Are you so eager in pushing for my mislynch that you even vote me twice?Concerned wrote:Eh, my vote was on fifi already, well consider this my srsbsn vote.
A bit ironic that spotlight thing i see.
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Tell me how this is scummy pleaseConcerned wrote:Vote: the1fifi
Two people question your attack on Julien, apply an once of pressure, one of them being the focus of your attack and you fold like wet tissue paper? Seems a little like you're very wary of attracting any suspicion at all.A little to eager to be out of the spotlight eh?Matteh says :
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Your first vote was Totally RSV? ok then, i can go with that. For now...unvote.
There isn't scum-fifi or town-fifi. i play always the same way. Sometimes with more attention, sometimes with less, but that depends on the mood and not the alignment.Matteh says :
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I have only one finished game, so i can't link you to other games and give you info about my alignment in them. but i will link you to my first game here if you want, altough i am a lot diferent now, since i gained a lot of experiencedMatteh says :
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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13110
the game is indeed over, but the mod never posted again -.-Matteh says :
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i didn't even think what my alignment was, nor i tought about making it clear in the post. Now that you point it, i see it as a town tell. A intentional one, and thats what makes it a town tell. And the fact that you are using such a weak argument against me, makes me suspect you a lot.almightybob wrote:
Yes, you are in the spotlight. Concerned was suggesting that you were trying to shift discussion away from yourself, in order to get out of the spotlight. That was his whole point.The1fifi wrote:Yeah, but i am kind of IN the spotlight, bob... And are you suspicious of me softclaiming town? That is hilarious sorry.
And yes, I am. Why is that hilarious?
You state that your lynch would be a mislynch as if it is a fact, thus implicitly stating that you are Town as if it is a fact. You are not showing us that you're Town, you're telling us. I don't like that.
Why do you assume that the conclusions we draw will result in a mislynch? And what else do you suggest?Dr Cyanide wrote:Secondly, attack, defend- draw relative conclusions, mislynch. Everyones going to be jumping to conclusions D1. Maybe we should try something else.Matteh says :
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I am sorry, that was a typo. i meant unintentional. My main language is not english, i am sorry. Still reading through the restalmightybob wrote:
You say it was intentional, and yet you also said you didn't think about it. Which is it?The1fifi wrote:i didn't even think what my alignment was, nor i tought about making it clear in the post. Now that you point it, i see it as a town tell. A intentional one, and thats what makes it a town tell. And the fact that you are using such a weak argument against me, makes me suspect you a lot.
Also, I fail to see how trying to subtly seed information as fact like this is a town tell.
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Civils Scum, about your discussion with Cyanide, i definetely think you are right. But you can't be that OMGus, agressive and disrespectful, or you lose your reason.
Cyanide really contradicts, when he acuses people of freaking out, while freaking out doing that. And i agree the game is slow so far.Matteh says :
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This totally looks like you are really trying to hide your alignment form us.Haylen wrote:I personally, would not like a Haylen lynch. You see where im coming from here?
I think it's pretty funny that Julien find me scummy cause I'm acting the same way as I did as SK.You do realise that I've been informed of my meta recently and have completely switched my metas around in a what I call Operation Mind Fuck.
Would you like proof of this?
Holy Semita, would you like to explain why you want to lynch me, CS?
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Cyanide is indeed acting like a joke, and very diferent from my other game i am in with him, altough i don't like his alignment in said game.
@Concerned : I am sort of annoyed for you seing red flags from me and town vibes from julien.Matteh says :
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WTF???? Is that a townish player post?? Seriously? You wanna lose and blame it on lurkers!? That is a perfect scum strategy, lead town to lynch lurkers, who can't defend themselves, while deviating from scumhunting.Civil Scum wrote:Yeah, I'm up for lynching some lurkers. Deadline's in under a week.
We could kill all of them one by one, and if we lost we could blame it on them.
I totally wanna lynch you now.
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First, my post was meant to say "i don0t know his alignment.." no idea where the "like" came from.Civil Scum wrote:
Interesting...didn't you "agree" somewhat with my scumhunting in your previous post?fifi wrote: while deviating from scumhunting.
Why yes, yes you sorta did.fifi wrote: Cyanide is indeed acting like a joke, and very diferent from my other game i am in with him, altough i don't like his alignment in said game.
And concerned brought this up anyways but you don't even mention him
I also think julien looks better than you coming out of the game's early stages. That was a weird comment.
Second...If they are lurking they will eventually be replaced out, ya know? Lets not give scum free night kills because of lurkers.
And yes, i agree on your case on Cyanide. But i can't decide if he is playing bad or playing scum.. And you re playing seems much more dangerous to town.Matteh says :
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thats why i don't llike to waste time lynching lurkers, because replacements always bring new views to the game. And this is something i haven't noticed. You kept on attacking me for my self vote, but you didn't attack haylen.. I am liking my vote on CS even more.havingfitz wrote: Regarding the self-vote...I’m not sure why fifi got so much attention for it while Haylen had self-voted previously and continued to have the self-vote until after the fifi self-vote topic had exhausted itself. But no one seems to have found fault with Haylen. (congrats on your engagement btw).
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Cyanide, you last post was just terrible. Too terrible to believe you are lying.
Concerned looks scummy to me all the times ... Like in the last game. You jump on wagons and cases like you are scum, just like last game.. if you are town, you shouldn't do it, you are always on a wagon or somebody's else case.. That sucks, cause i can't figure out your intentions. And as a town player, the should be blear as water.Matteh says :
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And speaking about contradicitons.Nachomamma8 wrote:Day 1 Votecount:
Haylen (3) - almightybob, The1fifi, julien
McZombie (1) - MrSuave
The1fifi (1) - bv130
julienwolfe (1) - ConfidAnon
MrSuave (1) - McZombie
Dr.Cyanide (2) - Civil Scum, Concerned
Not Voting (3): Haylen, Dr. Cyanide, Mr.Sandman
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is March 5th.
havingfitz replaces McZombie.
Prodding almightybob.
@Concerned : What reasons make you vote someone? I tought everyone voted the scummiest person or the policy lynch, not the second most suspicious. oh, not everyone.. town only. Dolly.Matteh says :
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Btw @Sandman and Concerned : Voting someone because another wagon isn't hapening is totally scum. Especially from sandman, as just paraphrased concerned.
@Julien :Foshere. a big one. Look into julien last post with attention later on the game. Mr suave is a hardcore lurker and aattacks me. Therefore, he can't be scum pushing for a mislynch, but of course my scumbuddy. You think scum lurkers would draw attention to buss their partners.?
If i am the only one to see the scuminess in this post.Civil Scum wrote:Look, I'll lynch either Fifi or Cyanide. But only on the condition that the one we don't lynch is lynched tomorrow,no questions asked.
I have nothing else to say. My play as been odd, and scum took advantage of it and done a good job pushing for a mislynch. If i reach l-1, at least let me claim.Matteh says :
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So basically, what we can get from my role, is a core of confirmed town players, who can share their views during the night. I supose i could say who i am going to target, so in case i die, you know that person is scum.Matteh says :
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Ok, we know it is townish to suport a lynch over a no lynch. Don't try to hard looking town-sided.Concerned wrote:I'd hammer myself to avoid a no lynch, so I'll jump on the Darkstrike wagon later in the day if I really have to.Fos
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Well, darkstrike play was so stupid that i am afraid to vote me -.-
Anyway, sandman's question on me was also really suspicious, but i reckon dark's behaviour was way worst. But 2 wagons is always better than 1. Double chances of scum cracking under pressureMatteh says :
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