Mini 928 - Bloodlust Mafia Remix - Over!

[LlamaFluff]

Ouch. Massclaim this early. And quickly agreed with by almighty bob..

Fos LLama

You do realize if we massclaim and no vig shows up we have 9 alive, 2 cleared and four anti-town alive. No vig says even a random lynch should be anti-town lynch.

im not passing up a chance to clear two players

[almightybob]

Ouch. Massclaim this early. And quickly agreed with by almighty bob..

Fos LLama

It's a good thing you stand to be cleared by this massclaim, because you're seriously not good at logical thinking.

[Nachomamma8]

Day 3 Votecount:

Mr.Sandman (1): LlamaFluff
Mr.Suave (3): havingfitz, almightybob, The1fifi

Not Voting (5): Mr.Sandman, Concerned, TehWuicah, almightybob, julienvonwolfe

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

TeWuicah has been prodded.

[Mr.Sandman]

I see the merits of a mass claim. However, I think we need to be wary of the fact that someone could claim vig (town or scum) and if they do, we have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching scum and a 2 in 3 chance lynching a town power role again. It seems like a better gamble for scum than it does for town. Is this really the best way? What I'm trying to say is that even if there's no vig and both the claims so far are genuine, it looks to me like it's to the scum's advantage to fake claim here

[MrSuave]

how are there 4 anti-town roles in the game? there are a max of 3 scum ever, and the rest of the power roles are pro-town roles. even the cult leader is considered a pro-town role, hence "pro-town cult leader". I can say that, if fifi was indeed role blocked on night one, then the setup for scum is the 1 mafia role blocker and 2 goons. Tell me what the 4th anti-town role is.

I didn't contradict myself. I make it to late game, or get killed early. This is because scum either save me for the easy kill at the end, or kill me off early because it's easier. That's all I said. People consider "lurking" scummy, and that's the only reason people usually say I'm scummy. I'm just saying that I play better near the end of the game, unless I know how you play (such as Nikanor if you know who that is). But even then, the majority of my helpfulness is at the end. I've been told that my gameplay is that of the VI, which I don't fully disagree with. But right now, I'm going to say that I think fifi is not scum. I'm between 80-90% sure that he's a townie. And like I said before, 99% sure of the scum set up. There is only 1 setup that has a scum RB, and I know that fifi didn't get RB N-2 by that scum.

If you are a JK and targeted me, how can you be sure scum have a roleblcker?

uhhhh because you said you were RB on N-1 and N-2 and I on'y RBed you on N-2. Therefore, if you are indeed telling the truth, then the only other role that can RB is the mafia RB, dur.

[The1fifi]

Thats assuming i believe you. which i don't.

[julienvonwolfe]

And LlamaFluff os totally distancing from my wagon after i flip town.

Fos

*sigh*

Im trying to get the point accross that it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to be scum unless...

vig tried to kill CS night one AND
vig tried to kill NK-immune SK night two AND
SK tried to kill CS or fifi each night

If massclaim shows no vig, then suddenly Fifi-scum becomes much more plausible.

If somebody

does

claim vig, we can match them up with Suave's jailkeeps and the nightkills to see if their claim works out. My gut feeling is that it won't, since there is no doc in this setup.

[almightybob]

Right, enough talk. Massclaim benefits Town right now. If you don't logically see that, you're wrong (looking at you fifi).

The1fifi
Mr.Sandman
almightybob
Concerned
TeWuicah
julienvonwolfe
Havingfitz
LlamaFluff
MrSuave

Rolling for claim order:

Original Roll String: 1d9

1 9-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d8

1 8-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Original Roll String: 1d7

1 7-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d5

1 5-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

Original Roll String: 1d4

1 4-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Original Roll String: 1d3

1 3-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[almightybob]

Claim order is:

almightybob
Havingfitz
TeWuicah
Mr.Sandman
LLamaFluff
julienvonwolfe
MrSuave (claimed JailKeeper)
Concerned
The1fifi (claimed Cult Leader)


I am a

Vanilla Townie

.

Fitz?

[havingfitz]

Not sure how you determined that order but no matter...I'm cool with a claim either way since I'm just

Vanilla Townie

[almightybob]

I took the playerlist from the mod's first post.

First dice roll picks one person from the 9.
Second dice roll picks one person from the remaining 8.
Third dice roll picks one person from the remaining 7.

etc etc etc.

[LlamaFluff]

@Llamafluff....what are your thoughts on the Suave claim and fifi’s ensuing actions? Did the other possibilities I brought up make sense to you?

Suave is town from the claim again because there isnt a vig. It also makes sense since sandscum has been attacking suave-town and now JVN-scum is joining in the mix to try and get the JK taken down.

I see the merits of a mass claim. However, I think we need to be wary of the fact that someone could claim vig (town or scum) and if they do, we have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching scum and a 2 in 3 chance lynching a town power role again. It seems like a better gamble for scum than it does for town. Is this really the best way?

Its like this: No vig, we have two confirmed town. Vig claim (we likely can figure out some scum if it happens) but we have 1/3 scum (PRs) and 3/6 scum (VTs). I really like that situation.

[MrSuave]

well technically I work as a doc/RB hybrid

[havingfitz]

@fifi - Care to answer the questions I had for you in posts 430, 441 & 449?

@Llamafluff....what are your thoughts on the Suave claim and fifi’s ensuing actions? Did the other possibilities I brought up make sense to you?

Suave is town from the claim again because there isnt a vig.

Until everyone hass ahd a chance to chime in...how can you be so sure there isn't a Vig?

[havingfitz]

?

EBWOP....

Until everyone

has had

a chance to chime in...how can you be so sure there isn't a Vig?

[LlamaFluff]

Until everyone

has had

a chance to chime in...how can you be so sure there isn't a Vig?

You dont see it?

I will tell you after massclaim finishes but with be blown away if there is a vig

[Mr.Sandman]

Until everyone

has had

a chance to chime in...how can you be so sure there isn't a Vig?

You dont see it?

I will tell you after massclaim finishes but with be blown away if there is a vig

What's the point of this then, if you can tell us now? Why wait?

You're basing this whole mass claim on the assumption that there will be no vig claim

[LlamaFluff]

Until everyone

has had

a chance to chime in...how can you be so sure there isn't a Vig?

You dont see it?

I will tell you after massclaim finishes but with be blown away if there is a vig

What's the point of this then, if you can tell us now? Why wait?

You're basing this whole mass claim on the assumption that there will be no vig claim

Not going to stop scum from claiming vig if they want to, as there are a few arguements they can make to pull the claim off.

[almightybob]

The more we talk about it, the more it will be ruined. I see what Llama is getting at. Let's just get on with the massclaim.

TeWuicah, your claim please.

[The1fifi]

@Having : I am sorry, didn't have much time. Gona try and post tomorrow

[julienvonwolfe]

I'm not sure how active TeWuicah is. He's gone quiet in the game I'm modding.

Mod: Prod TeWuicah?

[Nachomamma8]

TeWuicah was prodded back in post 452. He currently has until tomorrow to pick up his prod.

Prodding Concerned.

[Concerned]

Sorry about the extreme lack of activity. I'm around but extremely busy irl, thing is I break for vacation this coming Thursday.

I'll definitely get a post in tomorrow but I indeed to be a lot more active in future, basically this is a "I'm here, and I'll post tomorrow." type of thing.

[almightybob]

Does anyone strongly object to moving TeWuicah to the end of the massclaim list?

[MrSuave]

Well does the next person want to just go? Because I think this means he's probably gonna be replaced.