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[Random Nurse]

Hey all.

VOTE: Pooky

[Random Nurse]

1. Skitter - Null currently.

2. T3 - Null currently.

3. Kcdaspot - I do question his comment about Med looking shady. Also if Med's shady then why wait a page or so to place a vote? I have a slight TR on him for being active and engaging but... anyone could do that.

4. Pooky - Null. I didn't get that feeling he got about the alt discussion.

5. Media - Slight SR. The posts occasionally come off as a bit too aloof and carefree, although that doesn't count for much. The "I just, I dunno" to me comes off a bit forced. That's just me though.

6. Meuh - Null.

7. Chicago - Null.

8. Ceejayvinoya - Null.

[Random Nurse]

Kcdaspot

Skitter30
T3
Pooky
Meuh
Chicago
Ceejayvinoya

Medeia

VOTE: Medeia

[Random Nurse]

not really but it will tell me my distancing theory is wrong

if shes mafia i suspect i will be dead tommorrow ^.^

From just that?

[Random Nurse]

5. Media - Slight SR. The posts occasionally come off as a bit too aloof and carefree, although that doesn't count for much. The "I just, I dunno" to me comes off a bit forced. That's just me though.

these are just personality/typographical traits common to me

like here are my isos from my two most recent completed games (both as town):

native plants newbie
angels and demons

so you can see that that's just who i am/how i type and such

the 'i just i dunno' comes from my attempts at capturing how i would say things in text form and hitting enter instead of backspace when i pause midthought which is something i am constantly refining both within and without mafia but! veering into unrelated to game territory here

also maybe slightly interesting to me that you seem to have similar thoughts to me re: kcdaspot's comment about my shadiness and! kcdaspot's stating that he is waiting to vote while townreading kcdaspot and voting me but eh stated weights etc

alsoalso, if you're going to drop a letter the i is the one to drop as 'medea' is the most common english transliteration, it's just that medea was already taken and it would not let me choose médée (after the opera) due to unallowed characters even though i already have an andrée account

Fair enough.

Also, autocorrect frequently gets me.

[Random Nurse]

Medeia, wanna make a

Town Contract

with me?

It's simple, and I made it up.

Every time I ask you a direct question you answer me upfront without evasion/deflection, and the same for me when you ask me direct questions. It's not fool-proof but it'd go a LONG way in fostering trust. If rejected or broken that'd make the one rejecting/breaking it look Scummy.

I extend this invitation to you.

[Random Nurse]

Medeia, wanna make a

Town Contract

with me?

It's simple, and I made it up.

Every time I ask you a direct question you answer me upfront without evasion/deflection, and the same for me when you ask me direct questions. It's not fool-proof but it'd go a LONG way in fostering trust. If rejected or broken that'd make the one rejecting/breaking it look Scummy.

I extend this invitation to you.

i mean, sure

i'm not really sure why this isn't just something you'd assume about me or most players by default i guess

(1)

though i am not really the best at being clear and that is sometimes seen as evasion/deflection like if i am having difficulty weighing something and you just keep asking me 'but does that mean x is scums or not?' or whatever then i could foresee this being difficult i guess

(2)

but on a baseline sure anything that fosters communication generally good

(3)

(1) It's because there's Scum masquerading as Town in this game.

(2) Hey man, that'd be excellent practice at getting direct and to the point.

(3) Wonderful.

I'll wait until about page 10 before asking you those questions, for the sake of getting more context first, unless you'd prefer we start now?

[Random Nurse]

I'm just spitballing something new.

Full disclosure I'm an alt of an old player.

[Random Nurse]

UNVOTE: Medeia

[Random Nurse]

I'm just spitballing something new.

Full disclosure I'm an alt of an old player.

have i played with you?

Yes. Briefly.

[Random Nurse]

Medeia, wanna make a

Town Contract

with me?

It's simple, and I made it up.

Every time I ask you a direct question you answer me upfront without evasion/deflection, and the same for me when you ask me direct questions. It's not fool-proof but it'd go a LONG way in fostering trust. If rejected or broken that'd make the one rejecting/breaking it look Scummy.

I extend this invitation to you.

i mean, sure

i'm not really sure why this isn't just something you'd assume about me or most players by default i guess

This is going to sound crazy but I overestimated the time I have to play Mafia. If I play just one game at a time this idea may work better, but currently I don't think so. I do like that you were open to the idea though.

though i am not really the best at being clear and that is sometimes seen as evasion/deflection like if i am having difficulty weighing something and you just keep asking me 'but does that mean x is scums or not?' or whatever then i could foresee this being difficult i guess

but on a baseline sure anything that fosters communication generally good

[Random Nurse]

Medeia, wanna make a

Town Contract

with me?

It's simple, and I made it up.

Every time I ask you a direct question you answer me upfront without evasion/deflection, and the same for me when you ask me direct questions. It's not fool-proof but it'd go a LONG way in fostering trust. If rejected or broken that'd make the one rejecting/breaking it look Scummy.

I extend this invitation to you.

i mean, sure

i'm not really sure why this isn't just something you'd assume about me or most players by default i guess

though i am not really the best at being clear and that is sometimes seen as evasion/deflection like if i am having difficulty weighing something and you just keep asking me 'but does that mean x is scums or not?' or whatever then i could foresee this being difficult i guess

but on a baseline sure anything that fosters communication generally good

This is going to sound crazy but I overestimated the time I have to play Mafia. If I play just one game at a time this idea may work better, but currently I don't think so. I do like that you were open to the idea though.

[Random Nurse]

Medeia’s posts are overexplain-y

and it seems like she’s trying to squeeze content out of nothing just for the sake of doing so

. In addition, the post about Kcda felt uncharacteristically defensive, especially this early on.

I slightly felt that, but wasn't sure if that was alignment-indicative.

[Random Nurse]

1. Skitter - Null currently. Still not moved either way by their posts.

2. T3 - Null currently. Tehy've only got two posts, so...

3. Kcdaspot - At this point I'm not sure about Medeia; slightly felt they were trying to pump out more from less, but didn't think that was profound. On the other hand you could be latching on to Medeia in hopes of securing a mislynch.

4. Pooky - Their latest posts haven't really been helpful in explaining anything.

5. Medeia - At this point I don't know.

6. Meuh - Null.

7. Chicago - Null.

8. Ceejayvinoya - Null.

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Kcdaspot
Medeia
T3

Skitter30
Meuh
Chicago
Ceejayvinoya

Pooky

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[Random Nurse]

1. Skitter - Null currently. Still not moved either way by their posts.

2. T3 - Null currently. Tehy've only got two posts, so...

3. Kcdaspot - At this point I'm not sure about Medeia; slightly felt they were trying to pump out more from less, but didn't think that was profound. On the other hand you could be latching on to Medeia in hopes of securing a mislynch.

4. Pooky - Their latest posts haven't really been helpful in explaining anything.

5. Medeia - At this point I don't know.

6. Meuh - Null.

7. Chicago - Null.

8. Ceejayvinoya - Null.

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Kcdaspot
Medeia
T3

Skitter30
Meuh
Chicago
Ceejayvinoya

Pooky

-

whys t3 green if hes null on your list thing

Ah, because it's Chicago not T3.

[Random Nurse]

1. Skitter - Null currently. Still not moved either way by their posts.

2. T3 - Slight TR. Also noticed Medeia and the squeezing content thing.

3. Kcdaspot - At this point I'm not sure about Medeia; slightly felt they were trying to pump out more from less, but didn't think that was profound. On the other hand you could be latching on to Medeia in hopes of securing a mislynch.

4. Pooky - Their latest posts haven't really been helpful in explaining anything.

5. Medeia - At this point I don't know.

6. Meuh - Null.

7. Chicago - Null. THEy've only got two posts, so...

8. Ceejayvinoya - Slight TR; asking some helpful questions.

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Kcdaspot
Medeia
T3
Ceejayvinoya

Skitter30
Meuh
Chicago

Pooky

-

[Random Nurse]

the readslists made more sense to me when everyone was null tho

The game's still super-young though. We're only on page 6.

[Random Nurse]

As I understand it Scum team members will typically *fight* with each other early on, so I'm always looking for that tell.

I'm a veteran Mafia player but haven't played in about two years, so am rusty.

[Random Nurse]

the readslists made more sense to me when everyone was null tho

The game's still super-young though. We're only on page 6.

but like, ceejayvinoya isn't asking questions? unless i am misunderstanding your post somehow

I was referring to post #80.

It's not much but I liked it.

[Random Nurse]

I wouldn't mind seeing Pooky getting a little love AKA pressure for now.

VOTE: Pooky

Where are you on that, Medeia?

[Random Nurse]

Where are you on that, Medeia?

idk 'lol wut' felt kinda towny to me

and i think players interacting with pooky is probably more likely to yield alignment indicative posts than simply vote pressure

but eh not wholly opposed either

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

[Random Nurse]

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

oh i generally vote when i wish for the person i am voting for to be eliminated or at the very least to claim just seen/caused too too many disasters

So is that like a yes or a no?

[Random Nurse]

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

oh i generally vote when i wish for the person i am voting for to be eliminated or at the very least to claim just seen/caused too too many disasters

So is that like a yes or a no?

that is a no

i do not wish for pooky to claim or be eliminated right now so i will not be voting for pooky at this time

But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

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I'm not liking your last couple responses here right now Medeia.

[Random Nurse]

I'm not asking you to buy the Chicken Shack I'm asking you to sample a chicken tendie.

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But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

noone said anything about that, well other than me i guess, i just don't see what my vote accomplishes and i do not like to vote outside of those situations

like it just muddies things from my perspective and i think there are better ways to go about gaining information than simply voting and! like i said far too many disasters yeah

Now hold on. I'm asking you to pressure Pooky by casting a vote at him. I never said anything about a claim or an alimination—YOU did. You don't see that votes to pressure other players don't accomplish anything? Clarify that for me please right now. You pressure other players with votes in order to see how they respond. Just because you cast a vote doesn't mean you MUST commit to their claim and elimination that Day.

Your hesitancy on this is making NO sense to me.

[Random Nurse]

I'm not liking your last couple responses here right now Medeia.

I'm not asking you to buy the Chicken Shack I'm asking you to sample a chicken tendie.

i... don't get it

like really what do you see my pressure vote accomplishing here if i were to place it

Because two votes in more pressure than ONE vote, and when you pressure players they tend to react, especially with more pressure.

How long have you been playing Mafia?

[Random Nurse]

I'm open to pressuring Pooky but I'm also open to pressuring Medeia for now.

VOTE: Medeia

[Random Nurse]

Pooky where are you on this?

[Random Nurse]

But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

noone said anything about that, well other than me i guess, i just don't see what my vote accomplishes and i do not like to vote outside of those situations

like it just muddies things from my perspective and i think there are better ways to go about gaining information than simply voting and! like i said far too many disasters yeah

Now hold on. I'm asking you to pressure Pooky by casting a vote at him. I never said anything about a claim or an alimination—YOU did. You don't see that votes to pressure other players don't accomplish anything? Clarify that for me please right now. You pressure other players with votes in order to see how they respond. Just because you cast a vote doesn't mean you MUST commit to their claim and elimination that Day.

Your hesitancy on this is making NO sense to me.

i know that i did, i stated that i did in the post that you just quoted

i think interacting with players is more likely to lead to readable content than pressure voting

you may pressure other players with votes in order to see how they respond

but i do not,

as i generally think their responses are more readable in other situations and! i have found that wagons are often pushed through simply because they exist

and! i know that scum!pooky doesn't have a problem with reacting in a specific way to 'pressure' as scum regardless

Both interacting AND pressure voting leads to readable content. It's not an either/or thing.

If you want there to be readable content then you should not have any sort of hesistance on casting a pressure vote.

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I'm not liking your last couple responses here right now Medeia.

I'm not asking you to buy the Chicken Shack I'm asking you to sample a chicken tendie.

i... don't get it

like really what do you see my pressure vote accomplishing here if i were to place it

Because two votes in more pressure than ONE vote, and when you pressure players they tend to react, especially with more pressure.

How long have you been playing Mafia?

absolutely none of this makes any sense to me

been playing mafia a little over 3 years, generally haven't been voting outside of the aforementioned situations for the last two and a half years or so? since the binding of isaac disaster

WHAT is not making sense to you?

The more votes on a person the more pressure they feel. Two votes cause more pressure than ONE vote.

[Random Nurse]

Both interacting AND pressure voting leads to readable content. It's not an either/or thing.

If you want there to be readable content then you should not have any sort of hesistance on casting a pressure vote.

and only one of those things potentially leads to disaster, shrug, like i simply do not get why you think this is mafia indicative of me in anyway

Technically both can lead to disaster, in that if the interacting goes sideways a player could replace-out, so your point is moot.

Pressure voting RARELY leads to disaster on Day 1, especially when it's just TWO.

You're making it look like you're refusing to pressure vote Pooky and I want to know WHY.

[Random Nurse]

Skitter, you're here.

What do you make of this interaction between me and Medeia these last couple pages?

[Random Nurse]

I'm not liking your last couple responses here right now Medeia.

I'm not asking you to buy the Chicken Shack I'm asking you to sample a chicken tendie.

i... don't get it

like really what do you see my pressure vote accomplishing here if i were to place it

Because two votes in more pressure than ONE vote, and when you pressure players they tend to react, especially with more pressure.

How long have you been playing Mafia?

absolutely none of this makes any sense to me

been playing mafia a little over 3 years, generally haven't been voting outside of the aforementioned situations for the last two and a half years or so? since the binding of isaac disaster

WHAT is not making sense to you?

The more votes on a person the more pressure they feel. Two votes cause more pressure than ONE vote.

none of it

like why you think my voting here would lead pooky to revealing himself one way or another in a way that simply interacting with pooky about our concerns would not

why you think my not doing so is likely to come from mafia

what outcome you are expecting from this interaction at this point

etc

Yeah I want this slot FLIPPED.

[Random Nurse]

I'm open to pressuring Pooky but I'm also open to pressuring Medeia for now.

VOTE: Medeia

i think ur both town

pedit indeed

i'd put more money on medea being town than u rn tho

Based on what?

[Random Nurse]

Technically both can lead to disaster, in that if the interacting goes sideways a player could replace-out, so your point is moot.

Pressure voting RARELY leads to disaster on Day 1, especially when it's just TWO.

You're making it look like you're refusing to pressure vote Pooky and I want to know WHY.

i mean, i generally take great care to keep everything within the game as much as possible when interacting with others and have interacted with pooky at great length in the past, i really don't see how you would possibly think that should be an equivalent concern to me here in this situation

like i said, wagons get pushed through simply because they exist all of the time and i do not see the great benefit that you are claiming here

what do you mean by 'making it look like'? like you asked me if i was going to pressure vote pooky here and i said no and explained why

you don't seem to like that explanation, but it is what it is

she feels v earnest and playing entirely within her worldview which i believe she believes
she isn't not voting to pooky to stir up trouble or to hold you at arms length

she isn't voting pooky b/c she doesn't believe in voting people she doesn't want to imminently vote out, and pooky has not yet reached that stage

i'm getting a lot of earnestness in her posts + attempting to sort
don't see a reason to sr her rn

There's no real excuse to refuse pressure voting anyone, especially Day 1.

Pressure voting, like interacting, is how you get valuable content.

VOTE: T3 wanna nudge over here

Do you have any thoughts on anything else in the game currently?

[Random Nurse]

Anyone that quickhammers T3 will get reamed by me Day 2.

[Random Nurse]

Medeia can get incorrectly scumread based on NAI playstyle stuff a lot (a lot of the case against them is just that) like in Angels and Demons which was mentioned
Still feeling dread about their vibes though

pedit: UNVOTE:

Well, her play sucks.

Actively refusing to, I don't know, SCUMHUNT.

[Random Nurse]

Not saying she sucks, but that the way she's playing is anti-Town, in that she refuses to pressure vote players i.e. play the game as Town should.

[Random Nurse]

your read on her sucks then because her general approach to the game is the same as always, dig a little deeper here

It being the same as always is hardly an excuse.

[Random Nurse]

Where are you on that, Medeia?

idk 'lol wut' felt kinda towny to me

and i think players interacting with pooky is probably more likely to yield alignment indicative posts than simply vote pressure

but eh not wholly opposed either

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

imagine thinking you could pressure me with votes :3

You don't think you could be pressured with votes?

Commendable, especially with 20 years of experience.

[Random Nurse]

Pooky where are you on this?

i dont even understand this question can you be more specific l

With 20 years of experience you should understand this, though.

Where are you on this interaction between me and Medeia?

[Random Nurse]

Random Nurses' push on medeia seems like it comes from town. I liked the way he was assertive about medeia being anti-town and it kind of reminded me of how town often treat lurkers. It seems like Random Nurse genuinely believes that voting people to put the pressure on is a core tenet of how town play.

That's literally part of how you should be playing the game as Town.

It's like playing the game but refusing to vote ever, or refusing to engage. It doesn't look right IMHO.

[Random Nurse]

As I understand it Scum team members will typically *fight* with each other early on, so I'm always looking for that tell.

I'm a veteran Mafia player but haven't played in about two years, so am rusty.

Saving this for later. Kinda curious on how accurate this is...

I don't know about this, actually. Staged fights are useful, sure, but there are benefits to other strategies.

So you only have 3 posts this game.

Do you have any thoughts on the game so far?

[Random Nurse]

Tentatively, Skitter is giving me Townvibes.

[Random Nurse]

Although I would caution Skitter that someone with 20 years of playing Mafia would know exactly how to appear as the towniest Town to ever town. What I'm saying is don't develop a blind spot.

[Random Nurse]

Although I would caution Skitter that someone with 20 years of playing Mafia would know exactly how to appear as the towniest Town to ever town. What I'm saying is don't develop a blind spot.

im a nub and completely harmless

With respect I doubt that.

[Random Nurse]

Although I would caution Skitter that someone with 20 years of playing Mafia would know exactly how to appear as the towniest Town to ever town. What I'm saying is don't develop a blind spot.

You mean pooky?

Yeah.

[Random Nurse]

Wdym by 'cats paw'

Acting under orders, basically.

A cat's paw is slang for someone being used by another to do something unsavory or dangerous, etc. Kinda like getting someone disposable to do your dirty work for you.

[Random Nurse]

I'll have a little more time to engage tonight due to being at my more relaxed job.

[Random Nurse]

I'm not seeing much progression.

VOTE: T3

Game's running out of time. Game's dragging. T3, wanna claim?

*Waves away impending paranoid insanity*

[Random Nurse]

could you maybe also give some thoughts on the game while you're here?

like i am fine with t3 claiming as i said above but would also like more than

'game's dragging t3 should claim' from you

especially since part of game dragging is due to absence of you/others

Some thoughts? Sure, I'll give you some thoughts. Currently this game sucks because it's dragging, and I'm in the work deathspin and not quite willing to replace out.

If you're going to ask me who Scum is I don't know. I can only give you gut reads or vibes, and then wave away paranoid flailing. I'm inclined to think Skitter is Town due to engagement but as you know that's not AI—not much actually is, and I don't know people's meta here. Pooky I can't tell, and it's a chore trying to engage because of the attitude. You I don't know currently. T3 I don't know either, but we're running out of time and barely anyone is active. I only have a slight gut ping on Chicago but that's it. I don't even remember who the other players are.

What I NEED is a flip so I actually have SOMETHING tangible to work with.

[Random Nurse]

there's no way joker dude is town rofl

See what I mean.^

[Random Nurse]

If this f*cker IS Town it's going to be a slog trying to work with this guy.

[Random Nurse]

who are u even paranoid about

Is that a trick question?

Basically everyone, because I have no idea who Town or Scum are.

Even my Townreads I can't tell because, as you know, Scum can be REALLY good at blending in.

[Random Nurse]

Pooky, what do you think about the current T3 wagon?

You've got experience. What does your gut tell you on this one?

[Random Nurse]

Also to you, Medeia, what do you think about the current T3 wagon? What does your gut tell you?

[Random Nurse]

t3 can ghost as either alignment its basically a coin flip of sorts, i dont feel great about it but hes kind of being deadweight

It doesn't help that he's not engaging much, and I don't know if he's Scum or not, but I am willing to compromise on a lil if it means getting a flip.

What I would prefer is if he jumps in and starts engaging more. Now that I have a small bubble of time I can pick at this game a bit and just let my thoughts flow.

[Random Nurse]

who are u even paranoid about

Is that a trick question?

Basically everyone, because I have no idea who Town or Scum are.

Even my Townreads I can't tell because, as you know, Scum can be REALLY good at blending in.

no its not a trick question - its weird to me you say you're paranoid but I have no idea who you're even talking about. when i say i'm paranoid about something i usually point to a certain specific scenario - i dont see it used often as to say the entire game.

If you're Town like me I'm trying to reach out to you and try to make a connection this game. For me personally my gamestate is that I'm literally paranoid of everyone (as TOWN) because I have been fooled many times before by Scum. By that same token when I am Scum I struggle hard because you have to act as Town despite knowing you're Scum: I'm a terrible liar. As Town I can take as many liberties as I want because I legit don't know and win with Town.

I think with you and me it's more like differences in gameplay and perspective, assuming you're Town. My absolute strengths are actually my aggression and interrogation as my main. When I can start chewing into the game and pumping out content and sorting people out, that's where I find my strength. It's just tough when you're constantly working and mentally drained.

[Random Nurse]

Despite having been inactive for awhile I would hazard a guess that Scum are among the inactive because it benefits them greatly. That said I could be very wrong. How do you guys feel on that?

[Random Nurse]

like just reading thru your iso in this completed micro:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=83&t=91156&user_select%5B%5D=37068

you have a lot more aggression and you're trying to kill someone

here it feels like you ghosted for a week and you don't really care that much and a lot of things you say are for show rather than you are actually hunting/invested

Part of it is because I really struggle Day 1 as Town because I have no workable data. Part of it has to do with my work schedule and some of the interactions with the players here, and as Town it makes me not want to really engage if I feel like I'm slamming my head against a wall. I think, perhaps, once Day 2 begins and I'm still alive you'll see a difference in play because then I'd actually find some footing in these waters. Day 1 I always kind of languish because I literally have nothing to work with, and everything Day 1 is nothing but speculation.

[Random Nurse]

Anyone that quickhammers T3 will get reamed by me Day 2.

like from this post on. it implies you have IMPORTANT THINGS to do so you will be BIG MAD if anyone DARES to cut the day short but like you don't really do anything from this post to today. Hence why it feels like you're just signaling what you think correct town play should be rather than actually following up with anything.

In general I really don't like sudden quickhammers, before someone even has a chance to claim. On my main over the decade I've seen how bad it can be when someone quickhammers. For my recently completed game on this alt I quickhammered, and guess what it was the Cop. And then in endgame the VT Deltabreedy quickhammered the other VT.

Point is, it's better to just let the player speak when they're at L-1. Otherwise you're just asking for chaos.

[Random Nurse]

t3 can ghost as either alignment its basically a coin flip of sorts, i dont feel great about it but hes kind of being deadweight

It doesn't help that he's not engaging much, and I don't know if he's Scum or not, but I am willing to compromise on a lil if it means getting a flip.

What I would prefer is if he jumps in and starts engaging more. Now that I have a small bubble of time I can pick at this game a bit and just let my thoughts flow.

i mean, i would prefer this as well and if you have someway of encouraging this please do lol

In this situation what I usually do is just check their profile and see if they've been online and compare it to their current gameplay.

And, if they're online/posting, but not posting in the game, THEN it's time to make a deal out of it.

[Random Nurse]

like just reading thru your iso in this completed micro:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=83&t=91156&user_select%5B%5D=37068

you have a lot more aggression and you're trying to kill someone

here it feels like you ghosted for a week and you don't really care that much and a lot of things you say are for show rather than you are actually hunting/invested

Part of it is because I really struggle Day 1 as Town because I have no workable data. Part of it has to do with my work schedule and some of the interactions with the players here, and as Town it makes me not want to really engage if I feel like I'm slamming my head against a wall. I think, perhaps, once Day 2 begins and I'm still alive you'll see a difference in play because then I'd actually find some footing in these waters. Day 1 I always kind of languish because I literally have nothing to work with, and everything Day 1 is nothing but speculation.

ok lets say we flip t3 and he flips town and then we wake up tomorrow and i'm dead and flipped town

what do you do at that point?

At that point I would then start combing through the game thread and try to look for associations, to try and tell if other members were coming after you, trying to cast suspicion, avoiding questions, etc. For me personally the game actually begins on Day 2, because now I have something tangible in my hands to work with. I'd also be keen to compare their votes or lack thereof with yours and his, and try to make deductions based on that data.

[Random Nurse]

not that i care about ‘information’ vs most likely was just curious as that didn’t really seem like an option to me yea

Was this directed at me?

If so could you please clarify what this is about?

[Random Nurse]

To be honest I don't feel confident about a T3 lim. Meuh does give me gut Scum vibes. Kcdaspot I'm not too sure about either, but I feel more uneasy about the Meuh slot. All 3 of them actually discussing instead of reactively fighting would actually be fruitful.

If we're talking a lim that yields the most data it would be Medeia based on all her exchans, but I'm not currently sold on her being Scum.

[Random Nurse]

not that i care about ‘information’ vs most likely was just curious as that didn’t really seem like an option to me yea

Was this directed at me?

If so could you please clarify what this is about?

no sorry was a follow up to question to pooky re: high info flip

Thanks for clarifying.

[Random Nurse]

Random Nurse are you town?

I am.

Haven't been a good one, but yeah.

Obviously that's not worth much considering only I know this fact.

[Random Nurse]

I am tentatively Townreading Pooky, Medeia, and Skitter, primarily due to engagement and Scumhunting. I would like to see Skitter come in and share as well. Kcdaspot is a tentative Townread as well, based on if he comes in and shares his views as well.

[Random Nurse]

Woke up an hour ago and at work again. When I get a bubble of time during shift I'll be back.

[Random Nurse]

I'm apprehensive on a T3 lim, and he should have claimed his role when at L-1 and online. If we've got less than 12 hours on the clock I will compromise and hammer that slot if he's at L-1.

Meuh still pings my gut currently. As does Ceejay and Chicago. Kcdaspot is basically AWOL.

I'd be open to a Meuh/Ceejay/Chicago lim, and a kcdaspot lim if he remains AWOL.

[Random Nurse]

I'm OK with a CT lim.

VOTE: CT

[Random Nurse]

Will you claim, CT?

[Random Nurse]

First step - yes, I scumread Random Nurse. I go into it earlier, my reasons haven't really changed. He tunnels and seems to look for an excuse to scumread. Also I kind of now like when he explains how in 437 he prefers not to have quickhammers and then puts me at E-1 without either mentioning that I'm at E-1 or a good case.
This is not helping me not scumread Random Nurse.

I was going by the most recent VC on #536, which showed 3 votes on you, not 4. Meaning, that last VC is incorrect.

Also, my vote being #3 or #4 is not the same as quickhammering you. Do you understand the distinction?

[Random Nurse]

Is that L-1?

I'm OK with hammering for time, but I want Meuh a chance to speak/claim first.

I am announcing

intent to hammer

to keep this game on track. Need you to start talking Meuh.

[Random Nurse]

Pooky, Skitter, and Ceejay are voting Meuh.

Chicago are you able to move your vote onto Meuh? Also want to know what T3, Medeia, and Sheep are doing on this Meuh wagon. No quickhammers please.

[Random Nurse]

In that case IF Meuh flips Scum a subsequent Chicago lim would be something to look into.

[Random Nurse]

If Meuh flips Scum, Chicago must be limmed next.

[Random Nurse]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say I Townread Sheep right now.

[Random Nurse]

I'm OK with a Meuh/Chicago flip.

Announcing

intent to hammer

(2nd time).

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Meuh

[Random Nurse]

Hey, so, I jailed Medeia Night 1.

I'm Town Jailkeeper.

Only mentioning this due to Pooky's Bulletproof claim.

[Random Nurse]

EDIT: Chicago's claim of Bulletproof, not Pooky's.

[Random Nurse]

lol scumclaim

By all means please explain.

[Random Nurse]

Hey, so, I jailed Medeia Night 1.

I'm Town Jailkeeper.

Only mentioning this due to Pooky's Bulletproof claim.

whyyyyy would you be on medeia
who do u think is scum rn

ugh ugh ugh

Because I felt either she's the Towniest Town and I needed to protect her OR she's very good Scum looking like the Towniest Town and dishing out death with delight.

[Random Nurse]

lol scumclaim

By all means please explain.

i dont really think a checker and a jailkeeper can coexist in a mini because the chance for false positives is p high
if the mafia are ascetics then JK doesnt work on the roleblock side
also 1 JKer 6 VT 2 Mafia is a balanced setup so it doesnt rlly fit with bulletproof/checker
also its weird you didnt push back on the CT claim if you're a JK because JK doesnt really fit

If I were Scum, it'd be much easier for me to claim VT than going out on such a limb.

[Random Nurse]

Is
Jk
Checker
Bulletproof

Roleblocker
Ascetic

Balanced?
Plz someone who is good at this help me

uh, well i not good at this, but! i am here

so i potentially get false positives from jailkeeper and roleblocker, but true positive from ascetic,

i kinda think the roleblocker would probably be something else if this were the case? like maybe 1-shot strongman or a rolecop or something

just seems like so many potential false positives and! hard for mafias to interact with both the jailkeeper and bulletproof

but i don't actually know how often designers try to make the mafia powers line up with the towns

no database for micro normals because they're usually not played in the normal queue +/

Being jailed wouldn't you not get any result if you tried using an investigative PR? You would just get "No Result," correct?

[Random Nurse]

Is
Jk
Checker
Bulletproof

Roleblocker
Ascetic

Balanced?
Plz someone who is good at this help me

uh, well i not good at this, but! i am here

so i potentially get false positives from jailkeeper and roleblocker, but true positive from ascetic,

i kinda think the roleblocker would probably be something else if this were the case? like maybe 1-shot strongman or a rolecop or something

just seems like so many potential false positives and! hard for mafias to interact with both the jailkeeper and bulletproof

but i don't actually know how often designers try to make the mafia powers line up with the towns

no database for micro normals because they're usually not played in the normal queue +/

Being jailed wouldn't you not get any result if you tried using an investigative PR? You would just get "No Result," correct?

i believe this is true of most investigative prs but

checker is simply checking to see whether it gets a result or no result however

like ‘result’ = successful, ‘no result’ = not successful

and i would get an identical not successful regardless of why the check failed i believe

...

...

Could you share a paraphrased role PM on this?

[Random Nurse]

Is
Jk
Checker
Bulletproof

Roleblocker
Ascetic

Balanced?
Plz someone who is good at this help me

uh, well i not good at this, but! i am here

so i potentially get false positives from jailkeeper and roleblocker, but true positive from ascetic,

i kinda think the roleblocker would probably be something else if this were the case? like maybe 1-shot strongman or a rolecop or something

just seems like so many potential false positives and! hard for mafias to interact with both the jailkeeper and bulletproof

but i don't actually know how often designers try to make the mafia powers line up with the towns

no database for micro normals because they're usually not played in the normal queue +/

Being jailed wouldn't you not get any result if you tried using an investigative PR? You would just get "No Result," correct?

i believe this is true of most investigative prs but

checker is simply checking to see whether it gets a result or no result however

like ‘result’ = successful, ‘no result’ = not successful

and i would get an identical not successful regardless of why the check failed i believe

...

...

Could you share a paraphrased role PM on this?

i mean,

checks someone to see whether my action was successful

can also link the wiki if you want or you can ask the mod

I don't think the mod would offer one considering this is a Closed setup.

Could you link me the wiki, please?

[Random Nurse]

Nvm, just saw it above.

[Random Nurse]

im shocked skitter wants to flip me over the guilty

shocked

The guilty?

Which one is that?

[Random Nurse]

It's a soft guilty and i'm not sure i believe it's actually a guilty

Skitter, does he mean me?

[Random Nurse]

I'd be fine warming my hands on a Pooky bonfire.

I'll even bring the marshmallows.

[Random Nurse]

im not gonna waste time convincing people a guilty is a guilty

That's fine you'll spend that time cooking instead.

[Random Nurse]

It's a soft guilty and i'm not sure i believe it's actually a guilty

Skitter, does he mean me?

Yes

OK yeah let's burn him.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Chicago

I think Chicago is the optimal lim today. I claimed Jailkeeper because I don't believe his Bulletproof claim; I don't see BP and JK in the same setup but I'm not 100% on that. If you lim me you lose your JK early, but chances are extremely high I'll be NK'd tonight anyways. There is a chance Scum opts to leave me alive Night 2 to set me up for a mis-lim Day 3.

IF CT flips Town, then I'd say look at Medeia since I did jail her and there was no NK—maybe she performed the NK action (look into this late game).

[Random Nurse]

Why do you refuse to vote Chicago, Sheep?

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Chicago

I think Chicago is the optimal lim today. I claimed Jailkeeper because I don't believe his Bulletproof claim; I don't see BP and JK in the same setup but I'm not 100% on that. If you lim me you lose your JK early, but chances are extremely high I'll be NK'd tonight anyways. There is a chance Scum opts to leave me alive Night 2 to set me up for a mis-lim Day 3.

So ... you feel the 'optimal' lim is to eliminate the guy who can't be NK'd right now.

I do see your point about the odds of BP and JK in the same set-up, I was wondering about that when I got my role PM. That, and your foreshadowing of being 'left alive' by the scum for a 'Day 3 mis-lim' is just icing on the cake. It's becoming increasingly likely to me that you are, in fact, a mafia aesthetic (hence the town odd-checker); and likely there's a hidden town pr right now with information gathering powers (i.e. cop or something) that has claimed VT (or at least that's my belief).

VOTE: Random Nurse

You say that, but it's too convenient knowing that I jailed Medeia Night 1.

If I were Scum I'd have no reason to counter-claim in response to your Bulletproof claim. It'd be so much easier to just pretend to be a VT.

If you were Town you would know that a tactic of Scum's is to leave alive a PR that is suspecting it would be NK'd, in order to dump suspicion on that target and have the rest of Town kill that PR for Scum instead.

I'm not sure what the rest of Town has going on in their heads, but I do think you are probably Scum, although maybe I could be wrong and the game mod just wanted to be mean. I do know late-game if you and I are still alive and I get limmed/NK'd, when I flip Town you'll be flipped next.

You could be Scum, but I'm also concerned that it could be Medeia if she were the one performing the Night 1 NK.

[Random Nurse]

ok so the townread is a bittt weaker after iso'ing him lol

but I think, being so aggressively confident in his worldview that he reaches out to others and tries to get them to join him is a good sign of town!nurse. and being so aggressively confident that it's like, "im right and doing good town leading and youre in the wrong"

along with just, gut. gut really likes some of his posts and at the same time gut thinks chicago has been much wolfier since claiming so I just lean that way in my opinion that theres exactly one wolf between the 2

I wouldn't mind seeing Pooky getting a little love AKA pressure for now.

VOTE: Pooky

Where are you on that, Medeia?

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

oh i generally vote when i wish for the person i am voting for to be eliminated or at the very least to claim just seen/caused too too many disasters

So is that like a yes or a no?

that is a no

i do not wish for pooky to claim or be eliminated right now so i will not be voting for pooky at this time

But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

Pooky where are you on this?

Skitter, you're here.

What do you make of this interaction between me and Medeia these last couple pages?

Both interacting AND pressure voting leads to readable content. It's not an either/or thing.

If you want there to be readable content then you should not have any sort of hesistance on casting a pressure vote.

and only one of those things potentially leads to disaster, shrug, like i simply do not get why you think this is mafia indicative of me in anyway

Technically both can lead to disaster, in that if the interacting goes sideways a player could replace-out, so your point is moot.

Pressure voting RARELY leads to disaster on Day 1, especially when it's just TWO.

You're making it look like you're refusing to pressure vote Pooky and I want to know WHY.

Medeia can get incorrectly scumread based on NAI playstyle stuff a lot (a lot of the case against them is just that) like in Angels and Demons which was mentioned
Still feeling dread about their vibes though

pedit: UNVOTE:

Well, her play sucks.

Actively refusing to, I don't know, SCUMHUNT.

I'm not seeing much progression.

VOTE: T3

Game's running out of time. Game's dragging. T3, wanna claim?

*Waves away impending paranoid insanity*

If this f*cker IS Town it's going to be a slog trying to work with this guy.

Is that L-1?

I'm OK with hammering for time, but I want Meuh a chance to speak/claim first.

I am announcing

intent to hammer

to keep this game on track. Need you to start talking Meuh.

Why do you refuse to vote Chicago, Sheep?

these patterns of posting all remind me of how I think of town nurse

When I ask questions like "where are you on this" or "where's your head on this right now," I'm trying to gauge if players are A) paying attention to the game and B) not just acting as if they're here but not really invested.

Since I started this alt I'm haven't been nearly as aggressive as my main is, which can generate pages and pages of content once I'm ripping and tearing. Basically I work 60-72 hours a week and am in school for my Masters FT. It is a challenge trying to find the time and headspace to even get my head into the game.

[Random Nurse]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

[Random Nurse]

I personally feel a Chicago lim today would help sort out the mystery of these various claims, but if not today, then when? Day 3? Do I need to get NK'd before Town lims CT?

like vs eliminating outside of the pr claims or vs no elimination?

like if we sleep and you are nightkilled then that obviously helps with knowing the worlds but i don't know how likely that is even if you are town

if we eliminate in the vt claims and we don't hit then it's probably melo tomorrow and are maybe forced into choosing most likely world without a safety net

if we eliminate in the vt claims and do hit it's such a good position tho

if chicagotypewriter is a scums obviously beneficial to eliminate today

if chicagotypewriter is not a scums and we eliminate him it narrows potential worlds and i am pretty wary of you being like 'sort out the mystery of these various claims' as if chicagotypewriter being town would still mean you'd push me as mafia here

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

...

[Random Nurse]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

Why do you think it doesn't make sense?

I jailed you last night. There was no night kill. It's of course a possibility that it was you who attempted it.

Again, I don't know if that's what happened, but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

[Random Nurse]

To be honest you sound worried that I would push you as Mafia when I wasn't currently thinking it when you mentioned this.

it felt like that's what you were saying to me here with the 'various claims' thing and you said it earlier as well like

'let's eliminate chicagotypewriter! but if it's not chicagotypewriter then maybe it's medeia...'

like you've just been ignoring why that doesn't make sense

Why do you think it doesn't make sense?

I jailed you last night. There was no night kill. It's of course a possibility that it was you who attempted it.

Again, I don't know if that's what happened, but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

i mean, it doesn't make sense across the board based on play but specifically this:

IF CT flips Town, then I'd say look at Medeia since I did jail her and there was no NK—maybe she performed the NK action (look into this late game).

i just recently discussed this with sheepsaysmeep but

if i were the one performing the nightkill and my nightkill was blocked by your jailkeeper action

how would i have known i was jailkept in order to claim checker with an unsuccessful result?

and why would i have done so when i was widely townread instead of just like 'oh maybe i was saved'? (which i still think is possible for what it's worth like if you're town it seems somewhat likely to me that i was saved like i am quite often nightkilled and i don't think scums generally view me as someone to miseliminate in the future) especially given that chicagotypewriter had already provided another possible explanation for the missing nightkill with his claim

which i've been over multiple times already

like sure let's assume you are town and you jailed me

if i had attempted the nightkill and i was blocked by your jailing me,

how exactly would i have known this in order to fakeclaim? like do you really think i would just guess and hope for the best? when i would obviously have had other better options there?

also

but please don't presume that scenario is impossible.

also i know that scenario is impossible

but still i should not get frustrated it just feels like you've been ignoring that altogether and i don't know if intentionally

...

...

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

[Random Nurse]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

.......................................................................

.......................................................................

before

...

Hm. The post #s check out.

However, Mafia Checkers are possible.

Meaning, you being Scum is still possible.

[Random Nurse]

Skitter, how good are you at being Scum?

[Random Nurse]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

.......................................................................

.......................................................................

before

hes really leaning into this play dumb thing huh

Do you think a Mafia Checker is possible?

[Random Nurse]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

.......................................................................

.......................................................................

before

...

Hm. The post #s check out.

However, Mafia Checkers are possible.

Meaning, you being Scum is still possible.

and i would have claimed because… ?

and then your “blocking” the nightkill would be irrelevant

unless you think i’m a multitasking mafia checker

like

…

just feels like you want me to be a possibility without thinking about it

I don't like when players try to make it seem they're 100% cleared despite there being no tangible evidence.

You're not an IC.

[Random Nurse]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

.......................................................................

.......................................................................

before

...

Hm. The post #s check out.

However, Mafia Checkers are possible.

Meaning, you being Scum is still possible.

and i would have claimed because… ?

and then your “blocking” the nightkill would be irrelevant

unless you think i’m a multitasking mafia checker

like

…

just feels like you want me to be a possibility without thinking about it

Also, Multitasking is a common modifier for Scum.

[Random Nurse]

Did you claim Checker before or after I claimed Jailkeeper?

.......................................................................

.......................................................................

before

hes really leaning into this play dumb thing huh

Do you think a Mafia Checker is possible?

Of what great use to scum would a checker be?

It doesn't have to have *use* just to be possible.

[Random Nurse]

So your theory is the scum have a checker "just cause"?

I'm saying it's possible.

How would you know Checker is strictly for Town?

[Random Nurse]

Medeia's town tho

--
Ct - town jk never goes on an a claimed x-shot pr b/c then they're just roleblocking the pr shots

She could just as well be Scum. If you're Town, knock it off—NOW. She is not mod-confirmed to be Town, so NO ONE gets a pass currently.

[Random Nurse]

She's like >95% town via reads, which i trust more than mechanics

Why are u trying to convince me she's scum

I'm not trying to convince you she's Scum. I'm trying to convince you she's not 100% Town as if she's mod-confirmed.

Understand the difference?

[Random Nurse]

So your theory is the scum have a checker "just cause"?

I'm saying it's possible.

but do you think it is likely?

like to me it felt like you might have been trying to position yourself to try to eliminate me in case of chicagotypewriter green flip which conveniently would win the game for scum!you

and now you're on some sort of quest to get everyone to concede that i am in fact not an innocent child

which given but that doesn't make me anymore likely to be a scums? and i feel like there are a lot of things pointing towards the fact that i am town here which you're ignoring to say

'but it is possible!!' as if you just want people to doubt

I don't like how you're squirming like this.

I'm saying it's possible you're still Scum. Point blank. PERIOD.

STOP. TRYING. to pretend otherwise.

You're trying to make it sound like there's NO WAY you could POSSIBLY be Scum. I'm not even arguing you're Scum: I just don't like you trying to pretend you're mod-confirmed Town.

[Random Nurse]

She's like >95% town via reads, which i trust more than mechanics

Why are u trying to convince me she's scum

I'm not trying to convince you she's Scum. I'm trying to convince you she's not 100% Town as if she's mod-confirmed.

Understand the difference?

hm, kinda wanna ask what your current read of me is then

I WAS Townreading ypu Day 1. Then I jailed you Night 1 and the NK magically didn't happen.

SO, there's different possibilities here.

I DO NOT like you trying, ON DAY 2, to pretend you're mod-confirmed Town. You can STILL be Scum, but you FIGHTING me on that mere fact is NOT looking good in my eyes.

[Random Nurse]

I WAS Townreading ypu Day 1. Then I jailed you Night 1 and the NK magically didn't happen.

SO, there's different possibilities here.

I DO NOT like you trying, ON DAY 2, to pretend you're mod-confirmed Town. You can STILL be Scum, but you FIGHTING me on that mere fact is NOT looking good in my eyes.

i am not fighting you on that fact i am trying to see if you're even trying to evaluate me here in anyway or just trying to push me

like i've asked multiple times for you to explain how you're weighing various things here like

it feels like you just want to say 'i jailed therefore possibly scums' without trying to evaluate that

To be frank I'm still trying to sort you out if you're Town or Scum. Possiblities race in my mind. Could it be you and Skitter? Could it be Skitter and Pooky? Could it be you and Chicago?

Also, don't put me in a box on how I play as Town. I'm perfectly happy engaging with anyone when I am able. On my main account I don't even do reads because it's like casting pearls before swine most of the time.

[Random Nurse]

I do think your flip would you a LOT of valuable information for the rest of us, but I doubt the rest of these people would be open to that today.

[Random Nurse]

This is hilarious.

You're literally voting claimed Jailkeeper.

[Random Nurse]

Let's lim Chicago to sort that out. I don't buy the Bulletproof claim especially when I jailed Medeia.

Then Night 2 I will jail one person of my choosing. If I'm lucky I'll hit Scum. If for whatever reason Chicago flips Town and I'm eliminated and Medeia is still alive late-game, start questioning if she's actually Town.

[Random Nurse]

If we refuse to lim any of the claimed PRs why lim T3 over, say, Pooky? T3 only has 30 posts, so it's not like we'll get a lot of info from there. Then again does T3 usually lurk as Scum?

[Random Nurse]

medeia - odd-night checker
random nurse - town jailkeeper(?)
chicagotypewriter - two-shot bulletproof(?)
meuh - vanilla town
pooky - vanilla town(?)
skitter - vanilla town(?)
sheepsaysmeep - vanilla town(?)
t3 - vanilla town(?)
ceejayvinoya - vanilla town(?)

By the way, what does checker do?

Previously you said that jailkeeper was the odd one out in this setup but now you don't know what checker does? Can you please explain?

TBF Checker is not a whitelisted role and I had to ask Medeia about what it is/does too.

[Random Nurse]

nurse u think chicago is scum right? pooky does not seem like a wolf partner to chicago based on like votecount-snapshots from mid-late d1

he helped fuel chicago wagon

I'd like to see you join me on voting Chicago. We'll see if the rest fall in line or not.

His BP claim is very convenient given I jailed Medeia. It could be possible both Town roles exist, plus Town Checker. I don't know. It's still too early. It's possible CT is lying, and it's possible Medeia is lying. Anyone here have intel on Scum!Medeia's meta?

[Random Nurse]

You lim me you lim your Jailkeeper.

That'd be beyond stupid.

[Random Nurse]

I can't believe people are this stupid.

Town, you screwed yourselves.

[Random Nurse]

Like, WHY would you do this?

You weren't THINKING.

[Random Nurse]

Town doesn't deserve to win making stupid decisions like this.

[Random Nurse]

Sigh
I thought it was a bad idea ...
Sorry ....

I'm almost CERTAIN you're Scum.

You jumped on my mis-lim way too easily.

[Random Nurse]

For any Town with brain cells out there DO NOT let Medeia pocket you.

THINK for once.

[Random Nurse]

I spent like the past entire two days defending you, but ok

Doesn't matter. Look what you DID.

[Random Nurse]

Yes upon it being pointed out that you were always going to get flipped here anyways ...

I'm sorry for getting it wrong and that it upset you but it doesnt make me scum

Town, this person right here is Scum.

At this point Town doesn't even deserve to win. This is Scum!Skitter right here.

[Random Nurse]

nurse did this in other towngame too after getting limmed

"bruh you guys are so horrible and deserve this loss"

when it's just, like, a lim that makes total sense and it's not actually bad play

not warranted

And you're full of it.

[Random Nurse]

Two major points. No, three.

1) It should've been a clue when I jailed Medeia Night 1 and there was no NK Night 1. Next time try to keep these details in mind.

2) Skitter was heavily pocketed by Medeia. You all should have been questioning more why she kept staying alive. Also, Skitter, the player you Townread the most end-game is most likely Scum, and they've worked hard to get there.

3) Medeia was very good this game. I should have pushed harder Days 1 and 2: I was right to be Scumhunting her.

[Random Nurse]

congrats on the win you played awesome medeia

thanks to my fellow townies for sharing the misery of losing with me i had a lot of fun

i cant wait for random nurse to come tell us we deserve to lose for not listening to him on medeia hehe love that guy <3

To be fair you were wrong a majority of the time, Pooky. Perhaps you can learn from this game.

[Random Nurse]

I do hope to play another game with Medeia again. My gut told me that as Scum you were making a strong effort to keep posting and build yourself up to look as Town-ish as possible. If we do play again.... I think I'll remember this.

Skitter was good too, and clearly Town. I just caution you Skitter to not get pocketed/blinded so easily. My philosophy is that in endgame the person you suspect the least, the one you think can't possibly be Scum... is probably very competent Scum.

[Random Nurse]

I don't know why my gut pinged Scum for Medeia but it's like T3 was just flying under my radar.