Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

it's half past midnight and i am w i i i p e d
and i have a lot of work tomorrow

i'll try my best. this phase may end up lagging a lil.

yeah I am going to go to bed as well.
I think while an ISO can easily make you think that a slot could be scum, its only an ISO. There’s context. Thats something I really have an issue with. I don’t think going into an ISO and trying to dissect it based on what he is specifically saying is smart. Its about what he’s doing.

Also Icon has a team, how is his team playing around his slot?
And for starters, Cephir’s case on Icon is just so bad. Hell, if both of those are scum together, I’m pretty sure Cephir just continues to let me do what I am doing and defend Icon as I am while focusing his attention somewhere else. Going for the bus there doesn’t make all of that much sense to me.

Dann bussing it when you decided to push it D4 also makes no real sense.
Why would scum!Dann decide to bus there?

[Alisae]

if ur town just vote mariar
I've just accepted that if I'm not 4/4 on my reads, we lost the game, and while we could lynch obvious scum, I don't want to drag the game out any longer.
Its to the point where if ur name isn't Mena, SS, or wooper, I'm most likely going to not see your posts (literally)

Sorry but I’ve been a weird streak where I’ve had a 50/50 win loss rate recently and I need a win to keep the balance I believe and I really do not mind 50/50 rn
So let’s actually try this game?

you’re scum

[Something_Smart]

Or Pine is the roleblocker but I think it's a lot more likely that Pine is a doctor.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok i think im high but I'm explaining this wrong but

I'm betting the game on my reads and I want the game to be over if I'm wrong, so I'm at this point willing to quick lynch.

Gamma at this point is scum and he's not hiding it.
Krazy's cases on Dann was awful and Cephir made a horrible case for Icon so Cephir is also scum
Dann is scum because if he was town he would still put effort into lynching that slot or try as hard as he could to get that slot to be lynched. It wouldn't make him townie, but its just the right thing to do.
Firebringer flip as well as a recently finished game suggests to me that this isn't town!Maria's lategame. She does stuff here. What is she doing right now?
Boom nothing.

I think the only fresh points anyone ever brought against me were from Fire and they were still way off base. I don’t think you’ve ever stuck to calling me town even with your statements of “scum!Gamma wouldn’t out the watcher like that”. So please for the love of pizzas tell me what makes you think I specifically am scum. Also if PB ends up end gaming because he was stonewalled by you I will have your ass. I really think despite not being exactly made in good faith that case on PB has solid points.

[Alisae]

As soon as D10 actually hits and no one dies, we are stuck with F4 of PB, Iconeum, Mena, Maria

You think scum would go for the draw after all that?

honestly a draw would be very fucked up in that situation.

[Something_Smart]

honestly a draw would be very fucked up in that situation.

Exactly, so scum won't go for it.

[Alisae]

he was blocked N5

Oh, that's even better, because either it's one-shot like Pine said, or one of the scum members is the roleblocker and the odds are good we'll lynch them before N9.

Formerfish was blocked N3

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

[Something_Smart]

Formerfish was blocked N3

Scum had a JK that night, and they almost certainly have at least one strongman shot.

[Wooper]

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

culture of shitting on the IC ends today gamma.
if you're unhappy with the solve, do something to fix it. if you'd like inspiration, watch my discomfort on the communal Ico read and take inspiration.

I'd personally fucking love to see some ass kicking out of you.

[Alisae]

honestly a draw would be very fucked up in that situation.

Exactly, so scum won't go for it.

no it would be fucked up on Jingle’s part because we’re trying to force scum to play into our hands mechanically. Jingle declaring that a draw would essentially deny town a win in a situation town would deserve a win

[Alisae]

ok i think im high but I'm explaining this wrong but

I'm betting the game on my reads and I want the game to be over if I'm wrong, so I'm at this point willing to quick lynch.

Gamma at this point is scum and he's not hiding it.
Krazy's cases on Dann was awful and Cephir made a horrible case for Icon so Cephir is also scum
Dann is scum because if he was town he would still put effort into lynching that slot or try as hard as he could to get that slot to be lynched. It wouldn't make him townie, but its just the right thing to do.
Firebringer flip as well as a recently finished game suggests to me that this isn't town!Maria's lategame. She does stuff here. What is she doing right now?
Boom nothing.

I think the only fresh points anyone ever brought against me were from Fire and they were still way off base. I don’t think you’ve ever stuck to calling me town even with your statements of “scum!Gamma wouldn’t out the watcher like that”. So please for the love of pizzas tell me what makes you think I specifically am scum. Also if PB ends up end gaming because he was stonewalled by you I will have your ass. I really think despite not being exactly made in good faith that case on PB has solid points.

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

you’re scum

[Alisae]

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

culture of shitting on the IC ends today gamma.
if you're unhappy with the solve, do something to fix it. if you'd like inspiration, watch my discomfort on the communal Ico read and take inspiration.

I'd personally fucking love to see some ass kicking out of you.

what is going to suddenly make gamma town?

[Alisae]

Formerfish was blocked N3

Scum had a JK that night, and they almost certainly have at least one strongman shot.

PP visited you.
PB confirmed this.

[Something_Smart]

Jingle: what is the result of an endless cycle of no-lynches and no-kills?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pine is baller enough to tell the truth about that and smart enough to lie about that.

Yo Ali didn't pine say something about a jinglenet message he shouldn't have been able to see at some point?

My take is that it either means nothing or one or both of those happened more than once

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

culture of shitting on the IC ends today gamma.
if you're unhappy with the solve, do something to fix it. if you'd like inspiration, watch my discomfort on the communal Ico read and take inspiration.

I'd personally fucking love to see some ass kicking out of you.

I don’t want to shit on the IC but it’s damn clear e’s not playing the game to win. I feel like Ciera Easton in Survivor Second Chances rn

[Alisae]

Also wooper, we already established that scum was super okay with bussing LLD.
MariaR, Krazy, Dann, GE, all voters on that wagon (from memory)
Why would Icon decide to defend LLD. He’s the odd-man out in this situation.

[Alisae]

Pine is baller enough to tell the truth about that and smart enough to lie about that.

Yo Ali didn't pine say something about a jinglenet message he shouldn't have been able to see at some point?

My take is that it either means nothing or one or both of those happened more than once

I'm sorry I'm not interested in lynching town

Hey here’s an idea
Maybe don’t just stick to your shitty reads after you’ve been proven wrong, and instead actually try to, you know, play the game?

culture of shitting on the IC ends today gamma.
if you're unhappy with the solve, do something to fix it. if you'd like inspiration, watch my discomfort on the communal Ico read and take inspiration.

I'd personally fucking love to see some ass kicking out of you.

I don’t want to shit on the IC but it’s damn clear e’s not playing the game to win. I feel like Ciera Easton in Survivor Second Chances rn

ur scum

[Something_Smart]

PP visited you.
PB confirmed this.

Right.

Well uh I'm putting whatever faith in Jingle I have left that the roleblocker is a player and not Pine.

[Alisae]

PP visited you.
PB confirmed this.

Right.

Well uh I'm putting whatever faith in Jingle I have left that the roleblocker is a player and not Pine.

I would rather make the hard decision now then make the hard decision on D10

[Alisae]

We need to make the hard decision eventually
Sooner the better

[Dannflor]

Also wooper, we already established that scum was super okay with bussing LLD.
MariaR, Krazy, Dann, GE, all voters on that wagon (from memory)
Why would Icon decide to defend LLD. He’s the odd-man out in this situation.

I think it's rare a scum team all takes the exact same stance. Unless the situation really calls for, generally a scum team that large can have players all over the different sides of a wagon/issue.

[Gamma Emerald]

Idunno u tell me
If u knew u were going to lose the game, would you want to lose it on D7, or D10?

We don’t know we’re going to lose though
It feels like you’ve given up which makes me super angry. I recently finished a game where I fought rather hard to not get screwed by bad timing.

[Dannflor]

Neither of us shall fall. The walls are closing in on u alisae.

VOTE: Fire
I don’t like the way this feels

Gamma were you town or scum reading Fire here?

What is your top scum read right now, if you even have one?