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In post 3306, Imperium wrote:In post 3279, Heartless wrote:In post 3276, ooba wrote:Have had some town markers in past - unsure. Would compromise lynch:
19. Ankamius
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho)
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) VysePresident
oh lol, that is rich
If ooba wasn't deciding I was scum after having me as strong town all day one I'd be more concerned. What concerns me is that means his reads are on tilt like ffx and not on point like capcom which has me eyeing the town reads a bit more strongly.
This isn't sound reasoning. Just because he's wrong about one read doesn't mean all his reads are off.-
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In post 3307, Cephrir wrote:@SW- Disagree, depending on how it's gone about.
I haven't gotten down to closely reviewing TWIE yet. Ffery has meta-concerns and at a glance, I agree but actual read will come in a bit.-
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In post 3264, mastin2 wrote:(Because I felt like it. It's not like I'll be able to get an Imperium lynch anyway. Even if I push hard, and push hard, right now, and continue to push. Even if I gave it 100%. It's not happening today. Thus, my vote would be little more than just that, a vanity vote.)
If you genuinely feel that someone is scum, you should try your best to push the hell out of them. You are a charismatic and influential player. You can likely make a lynch of your choice happen.-
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Thinking on my two biggest D1 scumreads:
Mastin could potentially just be slightly crazy town-Mastin doing slightly crazy town-Mastin stuff.
I do get some townvibes from Ceph but it isn't enough to take away from the suck-uppy, ingratiating tone of his posts and his buddying of FT D1 was so blatant I have trouble thinking he legitimately actually came up with such targeted buddying as town.-
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In post 3367, FourTrouble wrote:her play at the end of D1 and start of D2 is scum, through and through.
It reminded me of her play in Tales of You when we counterclaimed Rancid and pushed for their lynch.-
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In post 3379, FourTrouble wrote:In post 3371, Solar Wind wrote:In post 3367, FourTrouble wrote:her play at the end of D1 and start of D2 is scum, through and through.
It reminded me of her play in Tales of You when we counterclaimed Rancid and pushed for their lynch.
How so?
Being really, really obnoxiously sure about a someone I'm scumreading. We were wrong on Rancid (although justified considering they fake-claimed our role), and I was right on AP here. Both times, Mastin annoyingly, irritatingly, pops up at deadline and undermines the work that others have put in.-
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I don't have a read on Mastin nailed down. I was suspicious of Mastin but end of D1 reminded me of Tales. That doesn't mean I have Mastin as solid town that I'm not questioning.
And yes, I can get reads by helping people with their wagons and seeing how those people react. Can't you? I'm not trying to get you to melt down.-
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In post 3369, Cephrir wrote:Go to S&S.
Iso me.
ctrl f "mhork" and "mastin".
then you can come back here and tell me I only buddy as scum.
You buddied me too! I kinda needed someone taking up for me early day 1 of that game.-
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In post 3393, Imperium wrote:Considering you said twice last night that you were voting me until I melt down and you get the reaction you want, yes you very much are voting me in hopes that I'll melt down.
No, I didn't mean that.
No, I can't get reads on people by saying "oh yo so um I think the chick you're scum reading is town and I don't want her lynched cuz ya know town and all, but dude you should lynch her."
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In post 3387, Imperium wrote:I mean you can be as anti-town as you want, but stop pretending about what you're doing.
Also, by the way, you really can't get a read on anyone for joining my wagon when you explicitly state that I'm town,that you'll fight any serious wagon that starts on me, that you're just trying to get me to melt down, and you're trying to read people for reactions.
That part wasn't f-16.
I think if you look at only what he's posting, it makes a sort of sense, though calling something a reaction test, which is what he's more or less calling it, affects the usefulness IMO.-
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In post 3397, Imperium wrote:In post 3127, Solar Wind wrote:On Imperium
I don't think Imperium is scum here but I'll help you pressure themso hopefully Tammy melts downand we get a few reads from reaction tests.
Ffery can unvote whenever she wants.
VOTE: Imperium
In post 3134, Solar Wind wrote:We're not.My vote's only there until Tammy melts down and I get the reactions I want. Last time I fake-suspected Tammy (Tales of You), I pegged the entire scumteam based on their reactions.
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Is there an actual reason you are arguing with me?
You really think I'm dumb that I would expect you to meltdown over one vote? If it wasn't obvious to you that I was trying to see how Mastin would react to an actual vote on lynch of her deepest desire that she couldn't actually achieve, I don't know what to tell you.
Mastin: I want to vote Imperium but they're never getting lynched.
F-16: Vote Imperium. There, push them now, I want to see how you do it.-
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In post 3402, Imperium wrote:It doesn't work when you say they're town, let me help you. You're charismatic you should push for the lynch!
I don't get what you're doing besides playing against your win con.
There's a lot more than just saying "they're town, let me help you." There's tone. There's how Mastin would interact with me about it. Interacting with people is not just about answering questions but HOW they answer them and how they react. You know this. It doesn't matter one bit that I told Mastin that I don't have a scumread on you.-
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In post 3465, Metal Sonic wrote:heartless. solar wind. magua.
three of you. i want you guys to chip in on PeregrineV. he hasnt posted much, but when has he ever?
this is serious, i think he is probably scum but im afraid of screwing it up
I have concerns about Peregrine, but I think his cheerful refusal to get down to business is maybe more likely to come from town-Pere. This is a gut thing, and is based on a game you also played with him - Death's Diner.
I don't feel much agenda from him atm, which is giving me scumvibes, but I don't know if they're accurate scumvibes.
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Mastin, please stop calling AP town.
He wasn't.
From a wagon-analysis perspective he might as well have been town, except there were slight off notes in his play that didn't make sense to me really until after I reread the game in light of his flip.
Your stance is polarizing - polarizing to town players who legitimately suspected AP, and it could wind up isolating/marginalizing your voice.-
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In post 3569, Cephrir wrote:Can we all just agree that the whole argument about whether AP counts as town or not is completely irrelevant and a waste of time, then move on with our lives?
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In post 3687, Heartless wrote:In post 3685, Solar Wind wrote:Holy crap Mastin, that analysis was obnoxious. Everyone who called AP town is town and everyone who called him scum is scum? Get outta here.
...i'm so going to be eating shit...
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In post 3691, Heartless wrote:b/c tth told me from the get-go that you were scum and now i'm thinking she might be right. i told her i thought she was wrong and now i might need to eat shit.
i remember you saying something day 1 about wanting to give peregrine a chance (then voting us before i caught up).
your productivity:posting ratio is almost zero today, too.
who's scum? and why aren't you voting anyone?
If you don't want to both be eating shit, then I suggest you hold onto that town read.
F-16 wanted to give him a chance. I would have been happy to lynch him day 1 because the level of uselessness he was displaying was beyond what I expect (which isn't much) from town-pere.
I've been v/la on my main due to bronchitis, but this game is my priority.
Neither of us are quick to vote and we haven't done a synch today. It's kind of a relief to see pere's flip because I hated the idea of giving him another day's pass because "no flips to work with" and even though I scumread MS, I hated the way that wagon was building. But, his flip fucks with my reads and I'm still thinking about that.
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In post 3691, Heartless wrote:b/c tth told me from the get-go that you were scum and now i'm thinking she might be right. i told her i thought she was wrong and now i might need to eat shit.
i remember you saying something day 1 about wanting to give peregrine a chance (then voting us before i caught up).
your productivity:posting ratio is almost zero today, too.
who's scum? and why aren't you voting anyone?
I initially wanted to give Peregrine a chance because he's really easy to read when he's town. That faded away as I got disappointed with his posting and remembered that it didn't actually take me past D1 to townread him in the last two games we played together so the lack of a townread should have been concerning.
But by that time, Nacho said he found something about PV that made him town (and since Nacho was the one insisting that we lynch PV), once he abandoned the push, I didn't have the energy to do an about turn and push that way.
I was scumreading your predecessor quite a bit which played into the vote on you. But I actually DID want to give you a chance because you are readable too and that's why we ultimately unvoted.
Mentally, I've been a mess this day and me and Tammy arguing took up most of the time in the game/neighborhood. That won't happen anymore so I expect to more productive from here on out.-
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Because it was yet another post obnoxiously claiming that anyone who townread AP/voted him for deadline was town and anyone that actually thought AP was scum was scum.
The Ooba point is actually good because I'm not sure how Ooba went from townreading AP to having common ground with me. I think Mastin's AP obsession has at least brought forth some decent points.-
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In post 3713, Imperium wrote:Do you remember when PV was town in Capcom and called for himself to be lynched, Sonic?
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Nacho, those are fantastic reasons to read Vezok as town. The following series of posts took a hit on my Vezok townread and made me less certain in town-Vezok than I was before. Because they don't make any sense:
In post 1099, vezokpiraka wrote:Incredibly sorry I didn't post.
I was closely reading the thread and wanted to post yesterday, but had some stuff to do.
AP is town. I'm glad he came back.
I don't get the matins hate.
Solar wind: What's your readlist?In post 1103, vezokpiraka wrote:In post 1100, Solar Wind wrote:Somewhat busy at the moment so this will be quick.
No, AP's catch up wasn't town. It was designed to manipulate specific people into reading him as town. Nothing that he posted in his catchup is something that he would be unable to fake as scum. Anyone townreading AP should explain why.
Both Ffery and I are reading Imperium as town and have already explained it. Don't get why people are asking again and again. Just read our posts.
Ffery posted her reads in our hydra PT. I expect we'll probably post a list once I re-read the game and refine a few reads I suppose. She's free to post hers obviously but I'm not ready yet.
So we shouldn't read AP as town because all he did may be faked? Then how can we read AP?In post 1721, vezokpiraka wrote:Cephrir is not scum. He's being pushed by scum as cw to ace.In post 1769, vezokpiraka wrote:Deadline is in 4 days.
More votes on ace please. Classic scum caving under pressure.In post 2429, dramonic wrote:Votecount 21: DAWN OF THE FINAL DAY OF THE FIRST DAY
Theaceofspades (5): AngryPidgeon, vezokpiraka, xombie, Rachmarie, ZZZX
AngryPidgeon (3): theaceofspades, Magua, Imperium, Solar Wind
beastcharizard (3): Skybird, Cephrir, The Mask
RachMarie (3): Ooba, PeregrineV, Farside22
TiphaineDeath (2): Mastin2, TSO
Cephrir (2): TiphaineDeath, FourTrouble
FourTrouble (2): Aeronaut
Skybird (0): beastcharizard
Not voting: Heartless, Ankamius
Reminder that it's 12 to lynch and not 13.
Deadline is (expired on 2015-02-06 22:30:00)
Tick Tock!In post 2438, vezokpiraka wrote:unvote
vote ap
Holy shit 16 pages in a few hours. Let's lynch someone. Liking magua's entry. Not really liking heartless.
What you see here is Vezok having a townread on AP, a scumread on Ace, both of which he's reasonably passionate about. He then switches from a bigger wagon on Ace to a smaller one on AP towards deadline.-
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This post:
In post 3719, ooba wrote:This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.
Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.
This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.
I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.
He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.
@Bitmap:I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.
I'll answer the heartless case here since it's related and the strongest point. Other points in a separate post.
a) You're right in that I correctly read MS as racist. I spotted something weird with his play - he barely cared that much on who he was pushing (nothing like the confidence\arrogance you saw in Capcom). On the other hand, he was far too useless to be Mafia. That, plus clues like calling his neighbourhood all town reaffirmed that. However, that doesn't require me to be Mafia. I have a history of making deductions like this as town.
b) Plus your case does not consider motives.If I was Mafia, I would want MS removed from the game.A third party killer is a liability to Mafia. [As evidenced by Pere dying].
I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia.I would not have brought up the racist possibility.-
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In post 3776, Magua wrote:In post 3772, Solar Wind wrote:I have a strong townread on Imperium. Less confident on the Magua town-read so Magua needs to explain.
I see a lot of Nacho and not a lot of Tammy. The Tammy I do see feels forced. I'm serious when I say my reasoning is "Tammy is scum so Imperium is scum."
I'm not seeing what you, Mastin, Ooba, and Metal are seeing. Tammy's posts have felt to me like her normal posts as town. How are they forced?-
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In post 3781, The Mask wrote:Magua you're such an adorable guy but....GRRRRR gosh darnit
Vote: Magua
That's not a town catchup.
Xombie please tell me why I need to out my neighbors.
Nacho you better not be telling ppl about me or I'll PUSH you. Naughty boy.
There were some things I disagreed with in his catchup but nothing has concerned me about his alignment. What concerned you?-
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In post 3793, Imperium wrote:In post 3791, Imperium wrote:In post 3755, Magua wrote:
Like Solar Wind's push on Imperium, but *entirely dislike* Solar Wind outright saying it's a pressure vote. 3127 and 3134 are basically "We're going to vote you until you act in this way we're going to describe" and let me tell you how weird that reads.
What, exactly, did you like about it???
To be clear. Magua. I do not for one second think that you actually find and like the best and strongest town the "push" Solar Wind made on my slot. I do not for one second think that you see that push and call it town. I do not for one second think that you don't recognize it for the personal push it was. I do not for one second think that you don't recognize, because he literally fucking said, that it was a push to get reads elsewhere while declaring me town, that it was an actual push.
I do not for one second think that you register *that* as your strongest town read. That you for one second recognize that *your strongest town read* has me as a strong town read and miss that. Then I do not for one second think that make you read me as your strongest scum read.
I don't think you actually rationally come to any of these conclusions.
The push wasn't personal.
Also, I thought Magua was reading us as town for other reasons but didn't like the push, not reading us as town FOR the push.-
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In post 3825, The Mask wrote:I don't believe his reads because they different know him to be when
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In post 3841, mastin2 wrote:Also, beast's probtown too.
Is this based on Sabotage? I'm going to read the game at some point to figure out why you and Nacho have opposing views of Beast's alignment there.-
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