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[Cephrir]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

wut

[Solar Wind]

@ Farside, I don't understand this. You went on and on about Rach and now you chose three other people besides Rach into the lynchpool. You say Rach's activity across the site checks out. But that only means that Rach is telling the truth about her RL situation regardless of her alignment here. Why does this necessarily make her town? Why couldn't you wait to see if you get a read on her replacement before you decide who to put on the table for a lynch?

Can you outline your reasons for the three people that you chose?

Some of my scum read was also her activity. Also I think only a few agree with my scum read on her?

I'm curious why you think, when most people disagree with me, that Rachel lynch would happen?

Do you think I should force people to lynch her and put up 2 pro town people to make it happen?

I didn't think that would be a good idea so I asked players for there scum picks, thought about what was said in the game and made the picks.

I don't think you should force anything. I think you should have put your three biggest scumreads.

[vezokpiraka]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

Yeah beast is scum also. We are an all scum neighbourhood. Glad you caught us.

[Ankamius]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

wut

What's confusing?

[Ankamius]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

Yeah beast is scum also. We are an all scum neighbourhood. Glad you caught us.

I'm asking you because I think you're town.

[Xombie]

Did you figure this out. It feels kind of odd that you'd make this comment, and then comment on TAOS' vote without apparently figuring out what was going on.

There's like 4 minutes between the two VC's. It looks like a vote reset.

The person having the most to gain from that kind of thing would be ace, as he was the highest wagon. But then that'd be exactly what I could see scum doing to make it look like it benefited ace to get a stalled wagon moving again.

Fuck idk.

[Cephrir]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

wut

What's confusing?

You're hesitant to vote TD because other people aren't doing it?

That sounds like something I would say, but I'd like to hear your explanation. It's jarring after all this "I can't vote X because too many people are voting them."

[Xombie]

Ooooh... wow.
I think I'm getting too used to not knowing wtf is going on in this game.
Makes sense now. Nvm me.

[Solar Wind]

So you're not really reading the thread?

[Xombie]

Only just noticed that my vote was gone in dram's last VC. I didn't pick up on it yesterday when I read through and it wasn't really surprising to me that there was shit I didn't understand... felt like that for a lot of the game.

[Solar Wind]

What other stuff has happened that you don't understand?

[Ankamius]

Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.

wut

What's confusing?

You're hesitant to vote TD because other people aren't doing it?

That sounds like something I would say, but I'd like to hear your explanation. It's jarring after all this "I can't vote X because too many people are voting them."

If you're talking about beastcharizard with the latter statement, it's because he came under fire for a lot of the last game I played with him until he eventually got lynched around Day 5 or 6 while not really being around for most of it. It seems vastly different right now, but there were a lot of situations in that game that focused the town more on them than hunting him down; he was lynched basically as soon as those distractions ended. He was town that game. I'm seeing a similar type of situation here, which is making me nervous about the wagon.

The problem is, that's not very strong by itself. I'm trying to see roughly where the consensus of my townreads are at with TiphaineDeath so I can tell whether I'm likely missing something about that slot since I don't think I've had much of an opinion of him since his first posts. If the general consensus is more town-based, then chances are I missed something with TD and my beastcharizard assessment is more likely to have resulted in a false read; the opposite is more true if the consensus is scum-based.

[Cephrir]

So it has nothing to do with Mastin in particular? When you made the original post I thought you were saying you were suspicious of TD but lacked confidence in your own reads or were concerned about being on the same wagon as Mastin.

What do you mean by a "town-based" or "scum-based" consensus in the last paragraph? Do you mean a consensus built by scum, or a consensus that the player in question is scum?

[Xombie]

What other stuff has happened that you don't understand?

Srs? My ISO is probably one big ball of confusion. The only thing that I don't get that isn't already named somewhere is where everyone's reads are coming from, but I'm attributing a lot of that to neighborhood discussion and a lot of you guys being familiar/meta happy.

[Ankamius]

So it has nothing to do with Mastin in particular? When you made the original post I thought you were saying you were suspicious of TD but lacked confidence in your own reads or were concerned about being on the same wagon as Mastin.

What do you mean by a "town-based" or "scum-based" consensus in the last paragraph? Do you mean a consensus built by scum, or a consensus that the player in question is scum?

Oh, I have a scumread on mastin. That's the main reason I'm doubting it in the first place. Since most of my strongest townreads are voting for FourTrouble (the slot I have a more confident townread on), it's hard to tell just by looking where the line is on the beast vs td scale.

Consensus just means the overall read on TD between them all, so more like the latter.

[Cephrir]

Your strongest townreads are weird.

[Ankamius]

Why.

[Cephrir]

Ah, that list isn't as odd as I thought it was. I thought that wagon was mostly lurkaderps for some reason. Vezok and farside are still odd choices, but I'll allow the other two. Out of curiosity, do you feel worse about the House slot since it was replaced, or better?

[Solar Wind]

What other stuff has happened that you don't understand?

Srs? My ISO is probably one big ball of confusion. The only thing that I don't get that isn't already named somewhere is where everyone's reads are coming from, but I'm attributing a lot of that to neighborhood discussion and a lot of you guys being familiar/meta happy.

I asked because I thought it might be possible to clear some stuff up, but if the answer is "everything" then welp.

You have a neighborhood. How is that working out?

Your iso is pretty devoid of reads, aside from sheeping Mastin onto TAOS, which implies a Mastin townread if not a TAOS scumread.

You have a choice of three votes. What are your thoughts on them?

[Heartless]

Jose whedln mafia is over. I'd be scum reading antihero slot right about now, but I got burned.

yeah and, just like then, there would be no fucking reason for it

[Ankamius]

Ah, that list isn't as odd as I thought it was. I thought that wagon was mostly lurkaderps for some reason. Vezok and farside are still odd choices, but I'll allow the other two. Out of curiosity, do you feel worse about the House slot since it was replaced, or better?

I feel worse about the slot, but not by very much. iHouse's FT push felt really town when he made it, which is why he was in my town list on day 1. I haven't felt any particular town feels from Magua's posting. The way he pushed me since he replaced in feels off and the way his scumreads are ordered here is kinda eh, but I'm already confident that I can't read him worth a shit, so I'm banking more on my iHouse read than Magua read.

[Cephrir]

That was approximately the right answer.

[Cephrir]

Don't take that to mean I'm not still concerned about you, though, because I am.

[FourTrouble]

Vote beast

[Cephrir]

Today in the news: Peregrine's iso still devoid of useful information.

More on this at 10.