InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

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VOTE: ABOMINATION

THIS IS NOT A POLICY LYNCH.

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Whoa whoa whoa, Katsuki a) looks Town, b) your scumread seems more believable when you can spell their name, and c) sign your fucking posts.

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Unvote
Vote: Young and Beautiful

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TSO, will you marry me this game too please? I was the best husband last time.

Marry: beastcharizard

Disclaimer: Donnel x Maribelle is a terrible marriage which wastes Donnel and makes Brady useless. Donnel x Kjelle, Henry/Lon'qu x Maribelle. gg.

On a more serious note, I do think shos is scum.

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why?

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or Donnel x Nowi I guess for overpowered as all fuck Manakete Nah but Kjelle is fucking incredible w/ Galeforce.

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good enough for me.

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Why are we all softclaiming and roleclaiming again?

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geists, why are you so boring?

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Part of me wants to say so-hilariously-wrong-must-be-town.
The rest of me wants to say leaning-scum.

So what do you actually say?

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I don't really disagree with you, I guess, but I have no interest in running him up.

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The truth is, he's a really nice guy, and really nice guys usually aren't scum.

In fact, they're

never

scum.

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Dear wall.

How are you?

Non-responsive?

I've found you a friend with the same traits!

...Geists? No, that's not their name. It's actually Always!

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My mind has been blown. I'm certainly convinced.

But would you be interested in the highly unlikely off-chance that he's a nice-scum-guy? I know I know, it's a crazy thing. But look at what he's done. He's character claimed in what looked like an attempt to get towncred from flavor knowledge players, he's seriously advocating for a bad policy lynch, AND he's with stupid. It's like a smoking gun of scumminess.

yeah, I agree with a lot of these, but the thing is I don't feel he's actually posted anything which would make me vote you. the policy lynch he's going for has been advocated by half the game at some stage and then dropped - him continuing to push doesn't really reek of anything. It's wrong, but it doesn't feel like he's thinking like scum, who have generally dropped off you at this stage.

Him roleclaiming was something he will need to answer for, but why would he do it as scum? Why would he namedrop on the first page? Either he's decided to waste a guaranteed fakeclaim or he's randomly namedropping. Neither have any benefit to scum.

I feel like someone's going to pull up Open 536, but this isn't the same.

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isnt exciting but usually yields results.

look can you save the damn innuendo for later???????

gettin real tired of your shit

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There appear to be issues here, but I warn you, I'm an even bigger dick than either of you.

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I think we played in some sort of Skyrim RPG off SalmonellaDreams, iirc!

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Conno

Connotations.

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Cephrir: I am not voting Abomination.

Indeed you are not.

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: )

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Tomorrow seems to be your buzzword.

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Unvote
Vote: shos

Here's an incentive to make sure tomorrow comes.

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Everyone vote shos.

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Rhaego what the fuck are you doing?

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oh wow shos is above me?

and Venmar is your second strongest townread?

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how about no

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Venmar.

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hmm. 100% Town? I'm getting 100% null.

Enlighten me.

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can you please sign your posts? I assume that was ffery, but it makes it easier for me.

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I probably seem really snarky but this game is somewhat difficult to figure out and stuff.

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So, mastin's got a read which no-one agrees with.
I ask her to explain it.
She flat-out says no.

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w o w!

I mean, there's only one reason I shouldn't be pressing here. Only one. And it's very unlikely.

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Dear Young and Beautiful,

Rhaego and I are not "working in tandem". I'm not even Townreading him. If you want to make a bullshit accusation, go back it up. You won't be able to.

Thanks, TSO.

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TSO, why do you seem different this game.

It's probably a good thing that I seem different to N's AAA.

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well, it's hard to tell you why I "seem different". Seem different to what? What exactly is different? Be more specific if you want a reply.

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what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.

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intriguing about the name btw...

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a lot of people have thought the same, Egg, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Dear Young and Beautiful,

Rhaego and I are not "working in tandem". I'm not even Townreading him. If you want to make a bullshit accusation, go back it up. You won't be able to.

Thanks, TSO.

...this is me being anxious? this is me being worried?

this is derisiveness, plain and simple.

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It's Cho! Haven't talked to you in a while since our fun d1 last time!

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No, but Cho -would- put my name in italics, like she did on the last page

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TSO, at the time I said that, you didn't seem like the center of attention like you have in past games. Maybe it's just because it's a large game though.

Well, yeah, I'm not really solid scumreading anyone at the moment. Once it happens, I'll let you know.

what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.

this one sir

This was just me paraphrasing; I don't even show emotion in it.

No, if you're indeed a member of the scum, you do not want to reply to my above line of questioning any more.

I'll just Let it Go~~~, Let it Go~~

I won't look at that any-more~~
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Well, that's a pretty bad generalisation, but I did it just for you.

what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.

Stop misrepping my girlfriend! B clearly said you were scum!

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Keyboard slip, whoops - but you quoted the wrong post.

T S O

, I'm glad you don't seem quite as vitriolic as usual, but I've seen you deathtunnel as both scum and town. Yet in this game you seem to actually be making attempts to think logically and make sound judgments! What's wrong, baby?

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You have? I thought you'd only experienced the rollicking ride of a deathtunnel by scum-TSO. At any rate, it's fair to say it's different here.

Logic/sound judgements are a hallmark of town-TSO! You have my word!

"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!" (original)

"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE

NOT

SCUM!" ("not" change added by B to emphasize T S O's scumslip)

By the way, your full response in the quoted post was a scum response. I can feel your nervousness and anxiousness right now.

"Shit, how did he catch me? I'll deflect..."

Here's a smooch to calm you down :*

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Fufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufu!

Smooches back, B! *:

VOTE: T S O

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You guys may need a QT.

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C H O

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Someone vig shos now.

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Mastin, I asked you for one read. You've said that if you're asked about one read, you'll respond - so I ask again, why's Venmar town?

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Why the fuck will you not explain your read on Venmar?

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not you, Mastin

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no but seriously there's exactly one situation where I could see you doing this and this has been happening a lot lately - I will not assume that unless I'm given good reason to.

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Odds are he's Town, he has no reason to withhold reads as scum - it's still annoying as fuck.

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Rhaego, shos is not a bad player, but his level of absolute uselessness here doesn't remind me of any towngames of his.

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Cop Mastin

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Result: Town

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oh, there we go!!!

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You try pinning your scummy-ass BoP on me, I'm speedlynching you.

I just had to be sure of your alignment, mastin, chill. I recalled thinking you were townish for that one opening post and Iec thinks you are too (I think? lol). This response is a little soothing. Apparently I came across differently than I intended to. I told Iec that I thought you were town as I replaced in and he accused me of lying in the post I made because I was hinting you were scum. Not my intention, was merely trying to interject myself into the game as fast as possible . Also I was apparently mistaken that this game is openly multifaction, there was just a post from someone saying it probably was.

And, the slot became far more dangerous if scum with the addition of AP.

<3. I do swear I'm not scum though. Has all this been Natirasha or fferyllt? Actually, I guess I don't care; at first I thought that your recent posts looked town if from ffery, but I think its just town either way in all probability. I also sort of like Y&B on this page.. I need to revisit that a little, but I do like both people involved in the mastin debate. I see passion, I see hard-headedness, I see decent points being made on both sides that would be a bit ... pedantic? (not exactly, but something along those lines) for scum to be making.

TSO is not someone I think is town after reading the last page. Not scum either. Well ok, maybe a little bit. Everything he is doing is sidelining right now.

P-edit: Dan you are gonna have to be super obvtown for me if you wanna play that card btw.

everything everyone is doing is the same. I'm bored as shit.

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TSO, why does it seem that you're trying to make it look like you're doing something when you're really not?

Why does it seem like that? It doesn't really seem like that to me - I'm questioning a read I believe to be falsified.

Do -you- have any reason why, you know, you're being hard townread by mastin for nothing? I don't.

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I wouldn't worry about it, he hasn't contributed much either.

I hope I'll eventually galvanise him but meh.

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it kinda annoys me when you call her ffer - ffery's cool, fferylt's cool, but ffer does my OCD no good.

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Dear Venmar,

How exactly am I giving the impression of doing something but not actually doing it? Please give examples.

Love, TSO

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it kinda annoys me when you call her ffer - ffery's cool, fferylt's cool, but ffer does my OCD no good.

I think ffer was the first abbreviation of my screen name on ms. fery came next.

>:(

Dear Venmar,

How exactly am I giving the impression of doing something but not actually doing it? Please give examples.

Love, TSO

Your post above this this quoted one is a good example (#721). When I say "In General", I really do mean it.

Yeah, but I'm allowed to fluffpost. I'm both posting content and fluff. They're not mutually exclusive concepts.

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I expect mastin to give the read, whereas I was sarcastically telling YnB they could do what they wanted.

"Subtly implying you're Town, scum!" is terrible. I can quote at least 10 examples where I've seen town say it.

cmon ap bigger better stronger

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Egg misread me in AAAA and when he said I felt different, the "not-different" TSO he knew could only have came from that game, where I was scum. Therefore, the comment wasn't out of my way whatsoever.

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he has done fuck-all and he continually tells us he will. and then doesn't.

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Will the two of you PLEASE get a QT so you can make up your mind instead of projecting your dissonance like your assets.

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I, yoo, willbe tryang topost about simewheb.

I justdon't know abuut simewheb...

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So why are you voting Rhaego over shos with that reasoning?

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This game is moving at the pace of a snail because neither lurker seems to give a shit we are voting them. Post or replace out.

Shos seems to be trying to active lurk and doing it poorly.

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loool

that's good

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herro HighShroomish!

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wow all the AAA krew is in the building!

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well you'll have to work for them.

I disagree with your shos nonread and I kiiinda disagree with your Always read.

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Lets lynch people who have done scummy things or have had scummy behavior. (Like beastcharizard or tso!)

Disclaimer: TSO is scum for pushing me, because scum always push me. We should lynch him for this![/sarcasm]

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It's probably time to step up, Venmar. Show your hand and explain why I'm scummy.

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I have a town read on Geists,

Abomination

and AngryIce.

I have no town read on Abomination - I have no read at all on her.

So I'm like the only person that feels this needs to be addressed?

hey, mastin's refusing to explain reads either. can't lynch em all.

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I feel the need to point out Nero would naturally assume the main character is Town, because, y'know, that's what the natural assumption -is-.

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yes but FE:A had a legitimate reason to have the main character as a fakeclaim.

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bad vote

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This is literally why I pushed your lynch; you become so antitown so easily that I can't stand your shit.

Yes its so antitown of me to suspect you for the scummy shit you do. Now maybe you being abrasive for shit all reason makes you town, idk and idc.

So you wanna tell me why you hammered Kali before Kali got here to post?

*slow hand clap*

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"I have a scumread. I'd like you to lynch them, yet I will not give a case of my own volition, nor when asked for it! Clearly, you will all sheep me soon!"

Good luck with that, I guess.

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Wanna tell me why abomination is a bad vote?

the hydra is obviously town.

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Rhaego is scummy because they are doing nothing at all that is helpful to the town. Their posts are just dumb questions with zero content what so ever. Their claim of scum hunting is not actually that. It feels like they are going more for making noise than anything else.

This is why I think Rhaego is scum.

yes but that's like "bad, bad, bad, bad" rather than scummy.

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strongly disagree with the above.

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And yeah I do have some shit about demons. It tells me whether i count as a demon or not - i wont say cuz i have no idea what this means - and something more that I...well ive no idea. Thats why i said i probably wont get killed even if i claim. I mean, I wouldnt kill me, lol. Not yet at least.

Also from examining my role pm i can infer that the other scumteam is undead. I think it could be something like bad demons vs undead vs good demons/humans or something, but thats jist speculation.

I don't buy the alignment tell Majiffy is pushing. This, though...

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I am?

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am I the only one starting to think mastin could be scum?

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Yeah, MDT, but do you get the feeling shos wanted this?

I just can't shake the feeling he wanted to be ran up to claim so he could do this.

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@shos it means he's saying there was malign intent behind Egg's post when in reality Egg was just asking a question.

@TSO you're kidding, right?(with the whole Mastin might be scum)

nope

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also your avatar makes it horrible for me to remember that it is actually you.

FAITH PLUS ONE

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TSO, I doubt Mastin is scum.

Really?

Nothing about him has really screamed Town to me here, at all.

-She has a strong townread on Venmar which she

flat-out refuses to explain

, despite making a readslist and telling people she would explain if needed. Yes, you read that right.
-The other memorable thing I remember her doing this game is self-meta, which to be blunt, is trash and is easy for scum to do.
-Townmastin usually, y'know, looks town at this stage. She doesn't. She looks completely insipid.
-SINCE WHEN DOES MASTIN LURK?

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but if it's a hydra, why is it inactive?

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will answer later

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mastin quit posturing and trying to organically scumread me while being really openhanded. it's pretty fucking obvious you are gearing up to vote me specifically and you're bad at faking "development-of-scumreads". please don't try to do it.

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I will rip Venmar's case apart like a little fucking bitch when I get on later - it's a fucking piece of shit case.

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I am fucking done with being nice, whatever. You want aggressive TSO? Fine! I'll bring it out!

Mastin, could you limit your post to 3 a day? It's just no-one wants to see you spam the thread. Make one post, not seven. I'd ask you to cut down on your walls, but I know it makes you happy, so cool.

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am I the only one starting to think mastin could be scum?

Yes. (Aside from Shroomish, who you're probably targeting for manipulation anyway.) Because thinking otherwise is hilariously.

Hilariously

bad. Town realize I'm town (aside from one or two outliers), and (most) scum realize I'm so damn town that not placing me in their townreads is a Very Bad Idea

(TM)

. (Not that it matters, though, since townreading/scumreading me gives zero towncred to them anyway.).

this is really disgusting. you are literally trying to blackmail people into townreading you.

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So where I'm at is that I think we should limit wagons to be:
{xofelf, Young and Beautiful, TSO} and see how things develop from there.

I really think our lynch should be one of the three, and I'm willing to join in on either Y&B/TSO if they get the votes and fully support 100% the pushes there; I just currently am also supporting the larger push.

Should eat supper, so be back later!

Limit wagons? Let's limit our wagons and go from there?

Fuck off.

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why are you townreading Venmar again?

because I asked, you refused to say, and now that you and Venmar are trying to coordinate this shit attack on me, it's getting worse.

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You will also justify your Bulbazak townread, by the way. Then I will rip it to shreds.

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but if it's a hydra, why is it inactive?

Wow. You are just looking for any excuse to scumread mastin and it stinks.

oh, yes AP, very good! When multiple players are playing together and yet there's still no posting, that's not suspicious at all! Well done!

Be quiet unless you have something intelligible to say.

And at last I see the light-
UNVOTE:
VOTE: shos
-and it's like the fog has lifted!
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I didn't see anything that would make you vote shos recently, so what the hell are you talking about?

Iec+AP, what do you think of majiffy and neros push. Is it worthy of a scumread? I already haveone on NC but maybe maj is tickling kagome with a sword too.

why are you asking people whether you should scumread others? why is it not possible to actually make that decision yourself?

TSO I'm torn about, leaning town. shroom really hasn't got into my memory

What makes you "torn" about my play again?

So Shos, what you're saying is that you're InuYasha, who is undead and somewhere demon is mentioned?
Uhhh... In my fairly limited theme knowledge(Provided Ceph is even sticking to it for everything) Inuyasha is far from undead and never gains that status.

lol hun read the game please, what is this nonsense.
I'm InuYasha, demon. that is all I've said.
somewhere in my pm is mentioned undead and demons in another context, in a way that to my understanding supports a theory where one group of scum is undead and another is made of demons.

didn't you say earlier that you -specifically- had not mentioned being a demon?

why the hell would you do that and then claim demon? what benefit could this plan possibly have?

Aleays is just so town. His reference to my LotR game lately is a reaaaaalllly good thinking. I mean really.

How the fuck would Always randomly referring to a game you played in be "reaaaaaaalllllllly good thinking" and make him "so town"?

Lord Mhork - he is being alittle odd but i remember a few posts that made me genuibely think he is scum. He lurked alot like most players and when he came back his cobtent was fine (wrong, but fine). So lean toen
2. geists (Natirasha & fferyllt) who?
3. Shos
4. ProHawk - in this game?
5. BulbaFenix (Bulbazak & EddieFenix)* scumread from ages ago but he hasnt posted in yearz
6. Katsuki* who?
7. Sakura Hana Squirrel Girl - can anyone link me to her answer to NC? That was a nice catch and i dont remember.
8. beastcharizard niet
9. T S O meh
10. Rhaego Wake88 wtf
11. Birds of Prey (anonymous hydra) town from latest posts
12. Iecerint AngryIcerink (Iecerint & AngryPidgeon) obvtown consistently
13. ActionDan in this game???
14. Moogle Dance Troupe (Kagami & Kazekirimaru)????
15. Svenskt Stål*?????
16. Majiffy probtoen but get outta the tunnel pr shelob would find ya
17. Nero Cain probscum
18. Always (mastin2 & Malakittens) more town than even me
19. Young and Beautiful (anonymous hydra) scumread goes here
20. Clyton neil1113???
21. Abomination (Who, Axxle, Haylen, MTD, T-Bone, ika, & BipolarChemist) considering the amount of llayers in here, WTF.
22. The Goat MEEE. Wut
23. Venmar null yet
24. BBmolla scumread
25. kdowns Mist7676??????
26. xofelf* must go over why this one is scum i dont remember shit
27. Egg is tasty
28. Klick HighShroomish null yet.

Sigh

I think this is the shittiest readslist I've ever seen. Usually when you give a readslist, ??? is not a read. You seem to think it is, though, given it's the main tell of the list.

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Don't you worry, guys, I will be responding to Always and Venmar in a separate post later tonight, and I promise you, I am going to enjoy this.

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making a big post, it's mainly based on mastin's various bull

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I really like this NC!

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In other news, I do not give a flying fuck if you think AP's great at reading you or not! Perhaps when I show you my opinion on you, which isn't flattering at all, you'll think I'm great at reading you too!

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It's like you're trying to dissuade me from attempting to read you or analyse your posts.

Let me tell you, mastin, your little charade stops here. I'll help you improve your scumplay by showing you its flaws right here! Unfortunately, hanging is part of this process - you've strapped yourself in for the ride, there's no turning back.

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I'll be ripping Venmar's post to shreds as well, while explaining why he's a rank hypocrite, but he's probably bad as opposed to scum.

You, however, are just scum.

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You haven't manipulated anyone here - multiple people have you pegged as scum (me, NC, HS). You're not as good as scum as you think - and your posturing doesn't convince anyone of you being town, by the way.

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I really hope you're not townreading mastin.

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Come on, babe,

talk

to

me

. I'll make it worth your while.

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Acting like a third-rate prostitute just makes people scumread you.

That's not a joke; step the fuck up or mastin will mislynch you (unless you're on the same scumteam, in which case, carry on).

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I have read your posts from the latter half of your ISO and I can't find a read of Always. I hope it's scum. I worry it's not.

PEdit: No, temptress will get you strung up just as quickly.

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Oh no!

T S O

, what do you suggest I post next, then, to escape the rope?

- y -

a) Content
b) Always vote
c) Content + Always vote

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your arrogance is so disgusting and unfounded.

so this is why people dislike you.

PEdit: well done, good girl. still bitter from AAA? you couldn't touch me as scum.

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TSO are you town? I kinda really wanna be town buddies with you just to fight the Mastin arrogance

yes, and agreed.

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I do think Mastin is town here though. She's caught up in her own head about how awesome and obvtown she's being and it does not look like she's faking it. Plus I don't remember scum Mastin ever acting like this.

no. she's being really deliberate and over-the-top arrogant; it's just a facade. Don't let her psych you into believing arrogance only comes from Town-mastin.

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no. she's being really deliberate and over-the-top arrogant; it's just a facade. Don't let her psych you into believing arrogance only comes from Town-mastin.

Lol. What makes this from scum then as opposed to town? Yes, mastin can be arrogant as scum but she is just so genuine in this game. I can't even describe why that is, its simply too unabashed to be scum. Too unashamed. Too out there.

coming from the person who's aim is to fit her town meta into her scum game and openly says she always plays different as scum, this is way too complacent a read.

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your arrogance is so disgusting and unfounded.

so this is why people dislike you.

PEdit: well done, good girl. still bitter from AAA? you couldn't touch me as scum.

Always isn't getting lynched today. Why are you coaching Y&B?

I'm going to push an Always lynch and I have no intention of stopping it, I do not care if you think it's possible or not.

I haven't and never will coach Y&B. Do you think me saying "good girl" to her voting me is coaching?

That's a derisive tone I use to people who can barely play. Not coaching.

pedit: yeah yeah, keep posturing, little girl.

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your arrogance is so disgusting and unfounded.

so this is why people dislike you.

PEdit: well done, good girl. still bitter from AAA? you couldn't touch me as scum.

Always isn't getting lynched today. Why are you coaching Y&B?

I'm going to push an Always lynch and I have no intention of stopping it, I do not care if you think it's possible or not.

I haven't and never will coach Y&B. Do you think me saying "good girl" to her voting me is coaching?

That's a derisive tone I use to people who can barely play. Not coaching.

pedit: yeah yeah, keep posturing, little girl.

Shades of red wine.

Do you want to engage with me, no?

I tried to help YnB and she voted me out of the fucking blue. I have no interest in talking to her anymore, and I'll openly say that's terrible townplay and terrible townplay is done by a terrible townplayer.

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I actually think she's scum, to be fair, but still.

Thank you, though, for responding, ffery. It's much appreciated.

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can you please stop posting memes, it's like you recently discovered chocolate, you're stuffing your face, you keep doing it. oh and you're 7.

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It's what I'm trying to do, yes. Your stance on Always feels similar to your stance on Katsuki in that game.

They're different. You've only seen me mislynch with deathtunnels. I also regularly get scum with them like, example, penguin in FE:A.

She's trying to fake arrogance. Just read it. I have never, ever seen her act like that. She knows that arrogance is seen as a towntell to the majority of the players here, so she keeps. on. dropping. it.

it's all there, ffery, if you want to see.

[T S O]

I tried to help you

You spat in my face and voted me

I got mad

You take the high moral ground

???

Profit!

[T S O]

I usually feel sorry for things I say which are nasty, but not here. you're way out of line and I simply told the truth.

[T S O]

you literally did not show one evolution from "i like tso" to "tso #1 scum". not one.

I know you are scum, so I have no idea why you're trying to be offended, but at least learn decent scumplay. you don't have a hope of surviving through this game because you've been caught.

[T S O]

that, by the way, is NOT FUCKING COACHING, IT IS ME TELLING A SCUM PLAYER THEY ARE FUCKED

[T S O]

when did you ever say you were scumreading me? ever?

Ftr: no. My d1 play in AAA was me perfectly replicating my town tunnel in a legit-scummy you from page 2. It's page 54. please stop trying to draw parallels between here and AAA.

also mastin is not a "choice mislynch." he's sadly a townread. you, though, were a choice mislynch.

0 parallels.

[T S O]

and the difference here is, Cho my good buddy old pal, that I didn't catch you! I'm barely pushing you! The problem is

everyone else is!

[T S O]

THIS GAME IS NOT AAA

MY SCUMGAME WOULD NOT HAVE ME IN THIS POSITION

I ACTUALLY LOOK TOWN WHEN I'M SCUM

I PROBABLY SCUMHUNT BETTER AS SCUM

[T S O]

I don't care who you are; why the hell are you obsessed with AAA?

[T S O]

oh no please don't try to replicate my scumplay jesus no

[T S O]

someone get me a gun

no really your push on me is so fake and bad even people scumreading me hate it

[T S O]

like you do not have the first clue of my scummeta - I have never, ever seen anyone who does. so for you to start quoting posts from AAA for no reason is just stupid.

[T S O]

I have no idea but I'm not going to let her slander my scum meta.

[T S O]

yes, capitals are a sign of my utter frustration. you got that right. gj.

[T S O]

I'm going to bed, I can't handle this shit any longer.

[T S O]

how exactly do you think you've caught me?

do you think that I'm scared of you and I'm panicking?

[T S O]

but I literally haven't been caught by you. full stop.

my anger is directed at Venmar and the trashcase and mastin for being scum. you're scum too, but you're just getting the afterburners.

[T S O]

fair enough.

[T S O]

It's how I get my kicks, but still.

[T S O]

"I am conftown!"

you're nowhere near conftown. you can stop with that any time now, it doesn't work.

[T S O]

I anticipated daytalk existing this game.

How do you know daytalk doesn't exist again?

[T S O]

I think we shouldn't speculate too much on whether Inuyasha could be scum in flavor. People's biases on this point could potentially out likely PRs.

- Iec

really?

it's not particularly townish to me.

[T S O]

She said she anticipated it, implying that it doesn't exist in this game - but how would she know that?

[T S O]

"I am conflicted about TSO, leaning town" ---> "vote: tso"

see, this is why you're scum.

[T S O]

"I am conflicted about TSO, leaning town" ---> "vote: tso"

see, this is why you're scum.

no, this is why THAT WAS SEVEN PAGES AGO and I've decided.

I'm sure you have.

Let's see why, then.

Hint: I expect trashy content and generalisations, which has been your trade all game. Please impress me.

[T S O]

cuz you're scum!
I've no intent of actually impressing you this game babe
no time or will, or need actually, it's D1 of a large

This is why shos is scum, by the way.

[T S O]

please don't try to brush away mastin's comment, AI, it doesn't happen that easily.

[T S O]

@Nero - so you asked me a question with an 'obvious' answer, I responded by saying 'the answer to that is so obvious I don't think you're scumhunting since you're asking it' and your response to that is 'lol, overreaction = scum!' ...I'm not a big fan of this line of thought. You asked an obvious answer question, I ignored/skipped it, and it mattered enough for you to bring up again when I answered it...and then YOU DIDN'T RESPOND TO MY SUPPOSED SCUMMY OVERREACTION FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.

No, I don't buy it. This is smokescreen.

@Goat - have you finished that read/skim and are able to offer thoughts yet? You promised, broken promises are like broken nuts - no fun for anyone.

this?

[T S O]

I would love it to be a scum slip.

[T S O]

Well, the problem is I don't like the start of it.

You -did- commit a pretty weird act by saying you were townreading Abom and then saying you weren't. I have no idea if you were reaction testing or what, but I don't blame Nero for pointing it out, because it's a basic logical flaw. Your explanation of it makes sense, yeah, but it seems really unfair to expect town-Nero to look at that post, see the blatantly obvious flaw, and then, after smelling blood, think through the complicated process of listing the multiple possible motivations, conclude you must be tow and say ...what? Ignore it? That doesn't seem particularly town-motivated. Post his whole reasoning? He's just flaunting his intelligence. Townread you? No reason to.

I can understand where you're coming from a little better in the second part, yes, but I'm not sure if you're actually pushing that as the scumtell.

[T S O]

Venmar, go quote my fake rage.

[T S O]

"oh buh-bye guys I'm off to lurk for a few days and push tso with my shit case"

which I forgot to respond to! Excellent.

[T S O]

"I cannot quote anything because I have no answer, here is an image!"

Pathetic, Venmar.

[T S O]

So... if you have no read on Abomination and you never did, then why did you explicitly say you did?

[T S O]

are we mad, venmar?

[T S O]

the case is not good. at all. and it's attacking me. what, exactly, did you think I would do? promote your case? say well done for making it?

[T S O]

TSO is basically scum for making large amounts of posts, most of which are aimed to

look

like he's helping or contributing, but in the end they aren't.

But my playstyle is, and always has been, lots of posts. And I don't really remember any of them that look like they're useful but aren't; either they're useful or they're fluff. Not both.

Most of his posts are pointless player interactions, fluff, or comments on the game that I don't see as him trying to gauge the game or a player(s) in particular.

But, what part of this makes me scum? Is being talkative and sometimes fluffy a scumtell? Does my scum meta include me doing this? It doesn't. Does my Town meta show me doing this? Hell to the yes.

If we want to talk about useless fluff and comments, you have plenty, such as your comment about Walter White.

The majority of his posts follow this criteria, so I don't feel entitled to having to point out to anyone particular posts.

I, however, would appreciate it greatly, since I couldn't find them.

Tpo his benefit, there are a couple posts of content, but so few among so many, and those that are of content seem hard for me to see coming from a town perspective I guess?

Again, your lack of specification makes it very hard to defend myself. If you give specific posts, I'll give specific answers, but until then...

I did a quick ISO, and TSO has made plenty of "I disagree with this" or "I think X is X" posts, yet he never says why?

That's because they're usually obvious, and I answer them whenever they're queried anyway. I mean, I'm giving my opinions - the lack of disagreeing with them usually means I'd be wasting my time explaining obvious reasoning.

It's really hypocritical of him to do considering he constantly tried to push other plays to force out content and explain their thinking when he doesn't do it himself. Adds to the fact he's mostly noise but no bite or pull as far as his reads and posts go.

I like to think I'm a very bite guy.

Hypocrisy doesn't make me scum, by the way; this post seems to imply that I would be better off pushing no-one, because then I wouldn't be a hypocrite.

[T S O]

why does SG's playstyle stupidly remind me of Thor?

it's either Thor or a Thor model.

[T S O]

my main problem with your case is that you're scumreading Nero when you shouldn't be, and if I feel that, Nero's sure-as-hell gonna feel it, so you're borderline baiting him.

[T S O]

But, I mean, sure, we can go through this.

Why exactly do you feel that ignoring your vote for days and days and then accusing you is a scum action as opposed to a town action?

[T S O]

If we want to talk about useless fluff and comments, you have plenty, such as your comment about Walter White.

Actually that comment was relevant?; I remember it being in response to Shos's incredulity about Inuyasha possibly being a fake claim.

what would Venmar's mod meta have anything to do with Cephrir's mod meta?

[T S O]

"This is irrelevant."
"This IS relevant, you fool."
"...how is it relevant?"
"WHO CARES?"

not at all, honestly.

[T S O]

Cephrir got done for making town a townclaim as the main role, iirc.
Then he made the mainrole a scumclaim in FE, and got done there too.

I honestly do not think InuYasha's in the game.

[T S O]

Also, Cabd designed this.

[T S O]

Venmar stated that that is BS and supported his stance by referencing a game where the main character was a fakeclaim.What on earth is scummy about that? Right, nothing.

Yeah, I agree with this, believe it or not. I'm not calling Venmar scum; I'm saying Venmar's post wasn't relevant, and as such, Venmar is a hypocrite for calling -me- scum for posting irrelevant stuff.

[T S O]

Hypocrite is not a personal attack, by the way, you don't have to tell me to fuck off Venmar.

PEdit: Fair enough. It's not the basis for my scumread on shos at all.

[T S O]

My theory is that shos played intentionally badly, got run up, because he knew he had the main character claim, and thought he'd be conftown from there.

Also because his play is so awful and shos isn't awful as town. It's like he has a posting restriction which is anti-spelling correctly, and he's sheeping scumreads which he doesn't have.

Also because I think he did slip somewhat.

[T S O]

My theory is that shos played intentionally badly, got run up, because he knew he had the main character claim, and thought he'd be conftown from there.

This isn't something scum would actually ever do.

what is your explanation for shos's abhorrently bad d1 play early-game?

[T S O]

I feel the need to point out that I fully support the Y&B wagon, it just doesn't need me.

[T S O]

Unacceptable answers include: having a bad game, shos is bad in general, and their variants.

[T S O]

TOS is scummy.
As of a few days ago AP had a theory that TOS was scum with a particular player. I can't remember who he thought it was, though. But that made me read TOS's posts more critically than I would otherwise.

see, this is why I get mad.

Firstly, I cannot even take you seriously when YOU CANNOT SPELL MY NAME CORRECTLY. IT'S TSO, FOR FUCK'S SAKE. NOT TOS.

But then, after misspelling my name, you talk about AP's theory of me being scum with someone... someone... and then you don't even say who it is!

And then you finish it off by saying you've been reading my posts critically, and well, um, that's it. You never give your opinion on them, or point out flaws... nothing at all.

[T S O]

I mean, it's not me. I'm fairly sure it's not just me being an angry bastard - this shit's actually happening.

Please.

[T S O]

I don't think I have anything to say at this moment of time, except wow.

[T S O]

guys, we should shelf the Mastin might be scum talk and lynch SG.

Random alternatarget. No recent content from them. Suggestive of at least one Nero scumfriend being run up at present if Nero ever flips scum.

- Iec

I'd say that it's, y'know, indicative of Mastin being scum, seeing as he is

directly fucking impeding her wagon progress and deflecting onto SG.

But, sure, whatever. Nero's subtlety is clearly beyond my ken and he's dissing the mastin wagon to subconsciously trick us into not voting that OTHER wagon! You know, that one! The one we can't identify at all! THAT wagon is scum. Mastin is simply an innocent.

[T S O]

But I wouldn't say that to AP, seeing as he's townreading mastin for no reason, just like mastin is townreading VENMAR for no reason...

[T S O]

Clearly there's some sort of mason/neighbour/society mechanic I don't have a clue about going on, or you're just into some big buddy defense.

[T S O]

"I am conflicted about TSO, leaning town" ---> "vote: tso"

see, this is why you're scum.

1. Hypocrisy is not a scumtell.

2. You've posted a lot of content recently that could significantly modulate anyone's perspective about you.

- Iec

1. Hypocrisy is when you accuse someone of doing something you do yourself.

Shos voted me for no reason with no showing of why he did it.

I have never done that.

2. like what? go on

[T S O]

the problem is my level of enjoyment in this game has been sinking down, down, down, and I'm more inclined to just be sarcastic and show everyone why they're wrong rather than actually quotewall, which is usually the key to looking town.

if you think I'm scum for that, so be it; it's not like I'm emotionally invested in this game.

[T S O]

buuuuuut go ahead anyway. you've sorta been softing that you support my vote and I'd appreciate if you stopped that soon enough.

[T S O]

btw, I didn't like the Mist case one bit

[T S O]

I agree, Iecerink. Common sense is a powerful thing. I can loan you some until you get your own, if you want.

[T S O]

I honestly wouldn't bother, but your work ethic is probably greater than mine, geists.

[T S O]

I don't know how many people are scumreading me and no-one has given me a solid reason. no-one.

Shos: refuses to give it.
Iec: You don't know it.
Y&B: thinks she's captured the d1 of a scum game of mine I mislynched her in. also scum.
mastin: says that me thinking the slip is why I'm scum when Majiffy did also and he's conftown??? her whole case is just her doing her best to misrep me because I'm the only one who tried to push her.
Venmar: I have no idea why Venmar is scumreading me, straight up.

[T S O]

I'm clearly locked out of something here because all I'm hearing are blankets of "mastin's conftown" from EVERYONE. Did I miss something?

And then she made a readslist and refused to answer questions on certain reads like Venmar because ???

[T S O]

SURELY SOMEONE SEES THAT IT FEELS LIKE I'M THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THIS THREAD SOMETIMES

[T S O]

Then Venmar got mad at me because I called him bad or something and now I'm walking on eggshells around Venmar for a perceived slight while he continually tells me to fuck off and insults me. meanwhile mastin limits wagons to three people. and no-one. questions. mastin.

[T S O]

I feel the need to point out that I fully support the Y&B wagon, it just doesn't need me.

You have made one or two posts that puzzle me, but none more than this one. What does this mean?

Everyone thinks that Y&B is scum because they are; everyone knows it and will vote them when the time comes. Why place my vote there when I can pressure shos?

and yeah I think xofelf is town so I should vote Y&B but will I conform to mastin's null? fucking nope.

the problem is my level of enjoyment in this game has been sinking down, down, down, and I'm more inclined to just be sarcastic and show everyone why they're wrong rather than actually quotewall, which is usually the key to looking town.

if you think I'm scum for that, so be it; it's not like I'm emotionally invested in this game.

On the contrary, my impression is that you are extremely emotionally invested. The question is the relevance of that point to your alignment, which may be nothing.

Quote walls certainly aren't a towntell.

-Iec

when I say "emotionally invested", I mean anger at my death. I think mafia's possibly therapeutic for me to just get all my shit out. I know how to get townread; it's not hard. I do it as scum. Act confident and play like you have a stick up your ass. I get emotional as town when I get frustrated. like here.

Quotewalls make you get townread. I guarantee you this. It's obviously completely wrong but it's oh-so-effective.

[T S O]

I don't know how many people are scumreading me and no-one has given me a solid reason. no-one.

Shos: refuses to give it.
Iec: You don't know it.
Y&B: thinks she's captured the d1 of a scum game of mine I mislynched her in. also scum.
mastin: says that me thinking the slip is why I'm scum when Majiffy did also and he's conftown??? her whole case is just her doing her best to misrep me because I'm the only one who tried to push her.
Venmar: I have no idea why Venmar is scumreading me, straight up.

If you are town my recommendation is that you play the game so that it will become obvious that you are town. Your preoccupation with a handful of voteless suspicions on you is easy to read as scummy, for example.

Relevant if this is generally how you live your life, e.g. I don't think I've ever played with you before.

-Iec

but that's for later days, you see.

stupid as it sounds, d1 of larges is just like a giant bank of emotion; it lets me gage reactions, it's fun-(er) and I don't really believe great things happen d1 anyway.

I'll become town at some stage. it's fairly easy.

[T S O]

night guys!

[T S O]

Everyone thinks that Y&B is scum because they are; everyone knows it and will vote them when the time comes. and yeah I think xofelf is town so I should vote Y&B but will I conform to mastin's null? fucking nope.

Well, at least now there's a statement that confuses me more.

Well, everyone thinks Y&B is scum, so I don't have to push that wagon. Nor vote it. I'd prefer to vote wagons which everyone -isn't- scumreading.

Mastin's attempted to limit lynches today to {Y&B, xof, TSO). If I was following this, I'd obviously vote Y&B, as I'm townreading xof. However, I hate this plan and think it's shit, so that's another reason not to vote Y&B yet.

[T S O]

Catching up here. First things first, finally a wagon on scum.

Second, I'm not Angry Pidgeon geists. The avatar that AngryIcerink has should be a giveaway there. The birds part of our name actually comes from the PV part of the hydra.

TSO, I found it odd you said the Y and B wagon didn't need you before it picked up steam. Also, the shos vote is hella bad.

Majiffy tunnels frequently but usually comments about the rest of the gamestate.

- VFT -

You agree Y&B is scum.
I agree Y&B is scum.

Does it matter whether I vote him now or later?

If I feel the wagon weakens or lessens, I will then push it. Pushing it now is overkill, and a waste of my time.

[T S O]

I have a huge, huge, huge post of mastin posts I feel are bad and my responses but I'm not sure if I'll post it because:

a) it's so long no-one will read it
b) everyone's townreading her anyway
c) she'll just quotestripe it back and I'd shoot myself around then

[T S O]

Who is Lemniscate? They were talking to me but idk who they are.

[T S O]

because everyone is townreading her and idgi.

[T S O]

It's not to spite mastin, btw, that just helps.

I'll vote Y&B if you'll really want me to but I feel that laying down my concrete scumread on them is akin to a vote right now.

[T S O]

Why exactly do you feel that ignoring your vote for days and days and then accusing you is a scum action as opposed to a town action?

Because, as scum, he was handed a reason to suspect me and support for the wagon *before* he made the move.
As town...well, my basic argument is, I've never seen anyone do something I considered scummy enough to vote them over and then wait multiple days prior to even saying that I found it scummy. I mean, even if, say, he had better things to do with his vote - he would choose to not say 'I find this scummy'? Nah.

Your thoughts?

I'll also jump on the TSO town train - the AP interactions last page felt very genuine.

I feel it's irrational as either alignment. My view on it is that it's just a sign of wtf-Nero play as opposed to alignment-indicative.

But, if it was to be indicative, you're right - it's a lot more likely to come from scum than town.

[T S O]

Its logic makes total sense - I've just misread Nero too many times to accept that one wtf-moment means Nero is scum.

[T S O]

Fine.

Unvote
Vote: Young and Beautiful

[T S O]

I love you, Jiffy, but I gotta do this.

[T S O]

you messed up the end but I got a pile of laughs from that. you can be town!

[T S O]

[T S O]

it -is- Cho, by the way; the italics make it obvious.

[T S O]

I think it was me.

[T S O]

Are you ever going to give a reason for your scumread on me, or just flail wildly?