Why wrt the bolded?In post 6871, Titus wrote:Actually KBBQ, Norlkaz has the argument right.In post 6866, KoreanBBQ wrote:TBF, this isn't even the argument. Titus is arguing that I softclaimed vig and I denied that and my denial is a scumclaim since I 100% vig softclaimed and her "evidence" is that she softclaimed vig that way which totes ignores that Titus=//=Nero.In post 6862, Norlkaz wrote:It does not follow that a vig softclaimer is scum if an actual vig is found; random people fakeclaim or softclaim vig all the time.
No one fakeclaims/fakecrumbs vig who is in their right mind. The real vig will kill them almost certainly. Your denial is to be expected. No one is going to say their actions were a softclaim of the dead vig. That's literally insane and not intelligent for either alignment. The evidence to me is pretty damning that your actions were a claim because I'd do it in the same manner. Does that mean I expect everyone to agree with me?No. However, I do expect people to understand that it is rational for me to believe his behavior was a softclaim.
Will both of you respond to my analysis that Generic "bussing" me is impossible given the fact it would utterly bone the scumteam if successful?
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The answer to this should actually be pretty obvious.In post 6906, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Why would scum have a lack of conviction in their reads rather than a townperson.-
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In post 6924, Titus wrote:A policy scumread really? That's what you've got. Then fucking lynch me. Scum won't shoot me with the policy lynch for winning as scum. You'll then lynch me in lylo and we lose.So just lynch me now and get it over with even though it's impossible for me to be scum.-
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It's gimmicky, but it's also fine in small doses and not horribly relevant to alignment.In post 6931, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I do like Arthur eviscerating Prophylaxis on his "votal analysis" so that makes me view more favorably. I am not sure if it is just a case of Proph being naive town and Arthur ripping him apart regardless of affiliation. "Votal analysis" is probably the most gimmicky pseudo-scumhunting tools I've seen in a long time.
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Just because Mara voted RC doesn't mean that there's enough energy in the day to lynch RC.In post 6936, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I was not willing to go through the ssk day again. Plus there was literally no scum-motivation for me putting him at L-1 (especially since I considered he'd do it) because mara right above me voted RC, so to be sincerely honest if I was scum I would have either bused early or have let it ride out for a little longer.In post 6933, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh yeah i remember i was voting you on the basis for putting Gen at L-1 allowing him to self hammer and cut the discussion short.-
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But even if it was RC was clearly not getting lynched so SAD saying that his vote on Generic had "no scum motivation" is laughable.In post 6958, Ms Marangal wrote:My vote on RC wasn't because he was scum, anyway. the real reason is [REDACTED]-
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Scum are put in the position where they have to push someone they know is town while town are never put in that position. Hence a lack of conviction since they know everything they is saying is wrong.In post 6964, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Scum know who's town and who's not.
Town don't.
Yet mysteriously town are supposed to believe in their reads stronger.
Logic.
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There's no reason to ride out a lynch that's not going through.In post 6965, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
....In post 6957, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Just because Mara voted RC doesn't mean that there's enough energy in the day to lynch RC.In post 6936, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I was not willing to go through the ssk day again. Plus there was literally no scum-motivation for me putting him at L-1 (especially since I considered he'd do it) because mara right above me voted RC, so to be sincerely honest if I was scum I would have either bused early or haveIn post 6933, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh yeah i remember i was voting you on the basis for putting Gen at L-1 allowing him to self hammer and cut the discussion short.let it ride out for a little longer.
You don't even care about reading or figuring out my alignment right? Because otherwise you should've read the part I've bolded, and wouldn't make such a terrible statement.
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This is definitely not an objectively incorrect statement.In post 6966, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
This is literally all Casso has presented against me this whole game. And I've already justified my PoV. About 50 times.In post 3900, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Tammy responded to this defense as if this wasn't something you cared about normally, which alarmed me. Why did you start caring about them here?In post 3609, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So who's good enough to analyze mafiassk's whopping 34 posts for scum-relationship tells if he flips scum?
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It's the tried and true method for lynching scumbags like you; why wouldn't they?In post 6969, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Because there's a history of people mindlessly sheeping nacho/thor and I pretty much foresee it happening here again.In post 6967, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you getting agitated?
There's also a matter of you doing nothing that really gets the blood pumping while continuing to say that no one has anything against you while that's clearly not the case.-
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I agree!In post 6968, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I agree the Titus AtE is pretty terrible but it's reading more of a defensive stance from town.In post 6955, Casso the King of Seals wrote:In post 6924, Titus wrote:A policy scumread really? That's what you've got. Then fucking lynch me. Scum won't shoot me with the policy lynch for winning as scum. You'll then lynch me in lylo and we lose.So just lynch me now and get it over with even though it's impossible for me to be scum.-
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Prod received.
Apparently Nacho is off doing...whatever it is Nacho does.
Which means you get me.
Neither Nacho or I particularly like the Titus wagon.
Both of us (well, mostly Nacho, he was the posting head - that was the deal) seem to really want to try to fight the derp train too much. I suspect it's because for both of us, our take on Titus is just gut, but we both are getting the vibe and have a QT with half a dozen comments of 'why is everyone still trying to lynch Titus?'. So...y'know, can we please just lynch Ser Arthur? That would be peachy.-
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Lynchy sheepy Thor-y?In post 3611, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I never found this argument compelling.In post 3603, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:You guys do realize the MafiaSSK wagon literally gives 0 percent of actual helpful information right?
He has a better chance of being scum than anyone we were wagonning before, and he has a higher likelihood of being lynched than the other players who might be scum. He's also a player who is not likely to obvtown unless roles, and thus makes a decent lynch.-
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Is the scum situation that bad, or do you actually expect that to convince anyone that you look town?
Hey, everybody, he's SELF VOTING! That is pure and obvious town motivation there, you should probably return to quietly lynching Titus while he pokes at Pie in the corner and pretends like he's trying to make that wagon go anywhere. How could I have ever misread such clear town play!?!
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In post 7155, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:No sir. This is me showing you your head is too far up your Smurf, and that maybe after I flip town you can get it out and actually start analyzing the game.
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Wow, and actually, it occurs to me you say that to me when two things are true;
1. We have presented quite a lot of reads and analysis this game, more than most I'd happily claim.
2. I literally just showed that I had trolled through your interactions prior to this because I knew your interactions were bad.
So, yeah, way to show just how unaware and non-scumhunting the Thor/Nach combo has been. man, we are really being sub par out here.-
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No, I would never do anything like that.In post 7161, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Have you attempted to re-read Generic since he flipped scum.In post 7159, Casso the King of Seals wrote:We have presented quite a lot of reads and analysis this game, more than most I'd happily claim.-
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Wasn't aware Titus was being lynched on policy.In post 7169, Ms Marangal wrote:Thor, you've never minded policy lynches before, why start now? :/
Also wasn't aware that I had called it bad for being a policy lynch.
Oh...wait...neither of those things happened. I'm opposed to the Titus lynch on the basis that I think a Ser Arthur lynch is a better lynch insomuch as both Nacho and I read Titus on the town side and Ser Arthur on the scum side. So I support my policy of voting scummy players.
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I dunno. I've read probably about half the actual game posts - so whatever that translates into. Let's call it about 50% of Titus.In post 7172, KoreanBBQ wrote:exactly how much of Titus have you read?
What part is the amazing bit I'm missing?
First part good.In post 7173, Norlkaz wrote:I don't feel good enough about Titus scum to proceed with a lynch for now. Time remains.
I haven't touched Casso in a while but the rest of the game is making me think they'll turn out scum.
Second part derp - but as long as you're considering me for scum, I'd also like to hear you voice an opinion on Ser Arthur.
You say that like, in this game, it remotely affects my credibility. Most of this thread is meaningless blather. I'm probably not missing much. Hell, Nacho has read it all (though maybe not the last 10-20) and is basically around the same thought as me on a number of people. So *pffft* to reading, it's overrated.In post 7174, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Stop sheeping Thor. The dude hasn't even read most of the game. Hop back onto the Titus wagon Sakura.-
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If most of you are fine flipping BOTH then what does it matter that I, who am not, would rather do it starting with Ser Arthur? This isn't even an actual issue, it's like you're saying 'You want to eat an apple then a pear, and most of the rest of us don't care either way, so why can't you support eating the pear first and then the apple?' It literally makes no sense and has nothing to do with my stance.In post 7183, KoreanBBQ wrote:Norl mentioned it. I think most of us don't mind flipping BOTH Titus and Sad. What order they go is irrelevant. I just don't understand your need to stop the wagon.
In post 7184, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I partly want to get Titus lynched over SAD because Casso doesn't want it, partly because SAD's frustration about the wagon on him feels town. I want to see where this goes, i.e. if Titus flips scum, I'd keep more of an eye on Casso. This also seems to be the first time this game Thor cared so much about who is lynched.
This is wrong on so many levels.
I am annoyed by that too - but I am specifically not clowning around (well, moreso than my usual baseline) what is your issue with me having a preference to the lynch order? You seem really frustrated that I'm not indifferent - shouldn't that please you because, depending on the flips, it's actually more info about me? I'm not even clowning, I'm stating specific goals and desires and trying to make them happen.In post 7191, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, not impressed that Nacho is posting elsewhere but not here. He is just allowing Thor to clown around and create chaos.-
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You see this all the time whenever almost anyone is cop/gunsmith/et al cleared. They actually become town slugs more often than not.In post 7209, geists wrote:My play would likely have been a lot different without DOMO targeting me night 1. I'm usually not an early investigative target at MS for some reason. I play differently when I'm coming under or expect to come under legitimate non-paranoia-based suspicion. I think getting investigated harmed my game, paradoxically. I play better when I make a reasonable target of suspicion, and I wind up being read solidly town because I earn it.-
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Fun fact - it's been well over a week since the last time Nacho posted in the QT, then it's just a stream of Thor posts, and then it's Thor talking about how he's posting now.
It's a pretty useless QT for that period.
Nacho is helluva bored or indifferent with the gamestate right now.
Oh...hey, look, we're a 289 page game, and unlike all of you a Hydra player who gets worn down has the ability to step away.
Shock.
We should have done more speed lynching when Thor was requesting it, then we'd have less lurka-derping now.
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That seems pretty normal. Simply because they're alignment confirmed to each other hardly means they are supposed to be in a mind meld.In post 7236, Titus wrote:Paranoia note: For masons, gm and MM don't agree on much.
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This looks more like deflection than trying to peg him for a weak hypocrisy angle.In post 7252, goodmorning wrote:Actually, even hydrae technically have no obligation to agree on anything.
Also, why aren't you scumreading Casso for their dissonance?
And, basically, I can't figure out why you'd do either. The hypocrisy side is weak and barely relatable to try to use as a tell, and the attack he did on you is barely worth needing to sweat because it's so silly.
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Why? And did you and/or do you think there was a need for it?In post 7258, goodmorning wrote:I was aiming for the "hypocrisy angle," as you put it.
Whether or not there's a need for it, I wanted to.
Because it is an awkward reaction and I'm curious about the mindset that lead to it happening. I kind of feel I indicated that already.In post 7258, goodmorning wrote:So why are you asking?
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A quick personal question seems more brilliant to me.In post 7258, goodmorning wrote:ask a question about a past game one or more of you shared with just one of us? The other answers, and because it's a time thing there's no question of having gone back and read it? Or something similar?
Less ability to fake an answer, also less interpretation and Google-fu ability in justifying any answer.-
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Well, for me it's mostly gut and the too easy feel of the wagon.In post 7277, Nero Cain wrote:What is your town case on Titus?
For Nacho it's the Cephir read (do you remember Cephir - a lot of people didn't scum read Cephir)
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I don't owe you anythingIn post 6991, Ms Marangal wrote:Nacho, please let me take the lead and follow my list
You owe me for pennepidum <3
What do you think of my Cephrir townread? If you want me to even consider lynching Titus, there's a giant stumbling block you'll have to overcome because that's the read I've invested the most time and brainpower into forming and it's become the type of read that's going to have to be pried from my cold, dead fingers.
Why do you think SAD is a bad lynch?In post 7022, Titus wrote:If you are hellbent on being stupid, lynch me today. I cannot live in lylo due to people discrediting me. SAD is a horrible lynch. Prophy and Sakura are the onlycandidates I will tolerate. I want a scum lynch if I have to die trying, so be it. Lynch me or leave me be.
Because he most certainly is not.
We came close to losing because confirmed town hammered a claim supersaint for absolutely no reason, actually.In post 7028, geists wrote:The xenogears town came really close to losing because they didn't scumhunt "below the line". They lynched through that group without a lot of thought.
I still am of the camp that policy lynching players because they will fuck up LyLo is a shitty idea; if you're playing with the expectation that you will reach LyLo, then you will probably end up in LyLo and that isn't exactly the ideal situation for town, especially considering that the stronger players are the ones who are the most likely to fool you in LyLo. I also don't think that this game will reach/should reach LyLo.In post 7106, Ms Marangal wrote:Falcon, you don't understand the pain we all went through watching Pere hammer obv-town nacho giving scum the win
Do you really think that you flipping town will shake Thor from his high high horse? Because I don't.In post 7180, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:If my flip achieves anything it should be that Thor gets off his high horse and actually starts putting in ~effort~
In post 7184, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I partly want to get Titus lynched over SAD because Casso doesn't want it, partly because SAD's frustration about the wagon on him feels town. I want to see where this goes, i.e. if Titus flips scum, I'd keep more of an eye on Casso. This also seems to be the first time this game Thor cared so much about who is lynched.
I have not posted on any hydra games during busy as fuck work week because I assume that all of my hydra partners are competent enough to handle the game on their own. Granted, Thor might be the only exception, but etc.In post 7191, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, not impressed that Nacho is posting elsewhere but not here. He is just allowing Thor to clown around and create chaos.
In post 7263, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I think I just went on stalker mode and was looking at the wrong photobucket.-
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I'm not really finding SAD's self-vote dance very genuine at all. It doesn't exactly strike me as the type of full-blown meltdown that a "fuck you, I'm bringing you off your high horse" meltdown tends to bring with it, and the lack of anything around the self-vote makes the vote seem more like an attempt to throw us off him as opposed to anything else. I browsed Titan's play in that horror of a nightless game but Arthur didn't really post much during the meltdown phase (yet another towngame where he lurked to the end), so that didn't really turn out to be very fruitful at all. Coupled that with the attacks on geists and worry about Mara/GM and it ends up just seeming gambitty, like he's trying to do things he figures people think scum wouldn't do in an effort for towncred.-
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I acknowledge that a Titus wagon is not the absolute worst thing to come into the game ever, but:
is horrible.In post 7357, Empire wrote:Prophylaxis (3) - zMuffinMan, Titus, Ser Arthur Dayne
I don't think that Bert was scum, especially considering his recent string of games where he's scum and plays like absolute and complete shit and this not being the game where he breaks his rut so throughly and completely, especially when micro games where he's playing like absolute shit are still ongoing. I really really don't give a shit what Proph ends up posting but the slot is still town.-
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i love you maraIn post 7400, Ms Marangal wrote:Outside of the interactions with Generic, Titus was townish and I still think Ceph was townish, and not at all likely to be coming from a scumslot no matter how much I want to do a policy lynch at this point
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I think that he's been gone everywhere so lurking in this game isn't particularly horrible.In post 7434, zMuffinMan wrote:
town?sad wrote:Muffin whats your read on Pieguy
he's been a complete non-factor and him shutting down and not posting anything worth reading lately has me worrying a bit, and i really don't like how he's got this idea of a scum team in his head and is dropping all analysis in favour of tunneling those reads, but i got pie-town feels from his posting on earlier days
I thought SAD was town?
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My contribution to the Muffin lynch wasn't significant because the flash wagon appeared out of nowhere and at a time when there was already a pretty great wagon on my top suspect. It never went anywhere because I haven't actually been confident in reading Muffin until now and went through a time of self-doubt caused by the only significant thing him he actually ended up doing the entire game being a weak shit push on me and nothing else.In post 7569, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I still think Titus is one of our scum because Cephrir's posts looked so fake. I need to re-read some of his towngames to see if how his posts look to me there.
Norl looks okay on a re-read but I need him to seriously step it up. Llamarble can be obvtown when town.
Casso actually looks pretty bad because the mutual pushes from Casso and zMuffin went nowhere and I feel they gave up too easily. zMuffin was never convinced that Casso was town but he stopped pushing them. Nacho too was scumreading zMuffin all along but his contribution to the zMuffin lynch was surprisingly insignificant.-
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Why not? She is awkward about bussing buddies (I can finally say this now!).In post 7573, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is actually a good point.In post 7571, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also like I don't think Titus scum would ignore the hell out of the muffin wagon like she did towards the end there.-
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Why is a vote on you bad?In post 7608, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Actually
Vote: Casso
I genuinely don't think nacho is bad enough to enter the game with a vote on me. He's doing that thing that scum do where they try to act confident in their reads.-
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My suspicions of Muffn started out pretty strong, but ended dying out as the game went on. I never really reached a point after the initial exchange where I had a good read on Muffin. We have been scum partners for the past two games we played or I've been scum against him or he's been pretty obvious town: this was the first time I ever really tried to read him and he wasn't exactly extremely scummy, just different in a bad way. Desperado is a player that I know a lot better than Muffin, and generally his interactions never amounted to the Day 2 interactions I had with him, and it was definitely weird enough to push through to a lynch. Muffin never felt that way.In post 7609, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Okay, but you spent a lot of time accusing zMuffin of being scum, pointing out how his sorting of you was scummy, how he wasn't pushing you as hard as town-Muffin would, yet you never lead a lynch on him in typical town-Nacho fashion. Our experience in Zachgame compounds my worries because it was really easy to see you as town there based on the way you pushed people, especially Wisdom and you looked quite town even before you added the "led a scum lynch" badge to your chest. You know you have the pull to drive a lynch through if you believed in it and you did push the Desperado lynch and wagoned Sakura and SSK to L-1 on D1, so why was there never a strong push for lynching Muffin? As the game went on, your push only became weaker and you distracted yourself with Arthur who I am struggling to see as scum right now. The push on you from Desperado was enough for you to lead a lynch on him, so why didn't the same thing apply to zMuffin?In post 7602, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
My contribution to the Muffin lynch wasn't significant because the flash wagon appeared out of nowhere and at a time when there was already a pretty great wagon on my top suspect. It never went anywhere because I haven't actually been confident in reading Muffin until now and went through a time of self-doubt caused by the only significant thing him he actually ended up doing the entire game being a weak shit push on me and nothing else.In post 7569, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I still think Titus is one of our scum because Cephrir's posts looked so fake. I need to re-read some of his towngames to see if how his posts look to me there.
Norl looks okay on a re-read but I need him to seriously step it up. Llamarble can be obvtown when town.
Casso actually looks pretty bad because the mutual pushes from Casso and zMuffin went nowhere and I feel they gave up too easily. zMuffin was never convinced that Casso was town but he stopped pushing them. Nacho too was scumreading zMuffin all along but his contribution to the zMuffin lynch was surprisingly insignificant.-
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Mobile Gundam is the game I'm thinking of.In post 7610, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Can I see a link? You seem to be implying you just finished a game with scum-Titus.In post 7603, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Why not? She is awkward about bussing buddies (I can finally say this now!).In post 7573, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is actually a good point.In post 7571, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also like I don't think Titus scum would ignore the hell out of the muffin wagon like she did towards the end there.-
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There was a lot of interactions in the beginning of the game, and a lot of interaction before Muffin's lynch, but absolutely nothing in between. I thought SAD didn't think that he'd really have any sway during the last few days and was going for some last minute distancing.In post 7611, pieguyn wrote:vote: Titus
@F-16:what are your thoughts on 2218?
@Titus:talk to me about thisIn post 7599, pieguyn wrote:@Titus:how the hell is Proph lurking? it doesn't seem to me like he's doing that at all (although mb I'm kind of biased considering people have been saying I'm powerlurking this game). it seems like he's putting in a lot of effort
and what do you think of Norl's assertion that Proph would have tried really hard if scum?@Casso:what do you think of the interactions between SAD and zmuffin?
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In post 7798, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Umm well yeah I always had this deep gut feeling that she was town (see my thoughts on her before I agreed with you) and basically got "peer pressured" (idk I hate that term but can't think of something better atm) into thinking she was scum.In post 7795, pieguyn wrote:also the way you called it a stupid lynch sounds like you thought that's what it was before the actual lynch. you're lamenting everyone else for what you thought was a "stupid lynch" which makes it sound like you were always against her lynch.
My emotions factor very heavily into how I play this game because I play this game to understand people and a emotions are usually king.In post 7796, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:@Pie okay I might see your point (even though I think people should play the game emotionally detached in game (versus out of game) but w/e).-
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How, exactly? You didn't seem to have a problem resisting lynches elsewhere.In post 7798, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Umm well yeah I always had this deep gut feeling that she was town (see my thoughts on her before I agreed with you) and basically got "peer pressured" (idk I hate that term but can't think of something better atm) into thinking she was scum.In post 7795, pieguyn wrote:also the way you called it a stupid lynch sounds like you thought that's what it was before the actual lynch. you're lamenting everyone else for what you thought was a "stupid lynch" which makes it sound like you were always against her lynch.-
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I would like a non-bullshit answer to this one.In post 7633, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Take a brief moment to indulge in an individual mental exercise where you try to read the game and THEN attempt to analyze it.In post 7615, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Why is a vote on you bad?In post 7608, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Actually
Vote: Casso
I genuinely don't think nacho is bad enough to enter the game with a vote on me. He's doing that thing that scum do where they try to act confident in their reads.-
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What does this mean, again?In post 7828, Norlkaz wrote:It occurs to me that sh self :hammered: as scum.
Once you claim it you can basically do whatever and its not a violation of the "scum dont go to the depths" supertell.
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I was initially scumreading Sakura because early play interactions didn't seem like the usual early play interactions: she was mostly letting everyone else sort out the people she usually hyper focuses on sorting out, she wasn't interacting with me the usual way based on excuses that weren't making sense (oh I'm not sheeping you based on a game where you played badly but I will sheep you while that game is going on). When I backed off, it was a strong flip: the way she responded to the pressure on her was so obviously and poignantly town that it took what was a pretty good confidence level initially and then grounded it into dust. I kept her talking just to make sure that this wasn't the game where she was able to pull that sort of thing, but all the drive was taken out of that wagon the moment she fully responded to it. I think I've had my quiet paranoid moments about her from time to time, but nothing that's added up to anything significant at all, and nothing that overpowers that initial town read.In post 7834, pieguyn wrote:@Casso:what's your current read on Sakura?
also walk me through your Sakura read throughout the game. why were you initially scumreading her and what were your thoughts at the time where you backed off?
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