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kIn post 628, geists wrote:
I would.In post 626, Desperado wrote:so real talk do i need to read the game or not
As game threads go it's not that dense info wise. Not a lot of walls.
I could post what I think are highlights, but they're probably biased because I tend to think what I'm involved in is the important stuff.
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cuz i'm boredIn post 1098, Stuffed Crust wrote:@Desperado: Why does that concern you?-
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if you were clever enough to invoke mitch as scum then bravo and shine on you crazy diamond
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Vote: DOMO-
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i'm trying something newIn post 1274, MC Maraca wrote:20. Desperado - I'm not seeing the OMG PASSION town desp brings to games. I see "meh make a few posts" then coasting from the Atlantic to the Pacific
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yo since when does effort = town?In post 1274, MC Maraca wrote:Not so Town:
3. Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665) - Mara disagrees slightly
12. Brian Skies - The dismal amount of effort you're bringing here scares me.
20. Desperado - I'm not seeing the OMG PASSION town desp brings to games. I see "meh make a few posts" then coasting from the Atlantic to the Pacific
5. F-16_Fighting_Falcon - the lack of effort here is surprising me and actually kind of making me sad, worried the fuck out of me
these scum reads blow cabd-
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so i'm not going to find any nacho, thor, brian, or f-16 games where they aren't meeting whatever arbitrary level of effort you've deemed necessary to townread them?In post 1294, MC Maraca wrote:
And for the record, for certain players this is absolutely alignment indicative.In post 1289, Desperado wrote:yo since when does effort = town?-
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sortaIn post 1301, DOMO wrote:lol I found the word "DOMO" once in desperado's ISO, and that's his vote for me just.
Plucking votes out of thin are are we?
your jump on to sc was not good-
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why am i in no position to judge the quality of your reads?In post 1309, DOMO wrote:I'm concerned about you telling me my "jump" is bad. You're either in no position to make that judgment, or you're scum.
I voted for stuffed crust because I wasn't convinced by his sincerity. That's as good a reason as I'm likely to find for lynching someone on d1. If you're not convinced by my sincerity, then that's fine. But it seems to me that you're voting for me for exactly the same reason as I voted for SC... so how is your switch from him to me and better than mine to him?
i thought that was the whole point of mafia
you also scumread sc because he was latching on to ssk as a "compelling case" which doesn't make any sense because you were also scumreading ssk.
like, don't you want ssk to get lynched? it didn't look natural.-
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In post 1320, Cephrir wrote:Well, it blows.
so did your sheep of domo's retarded sc "case"
oh no how do i know that!!! i must be scum with inside knowledge for making a declarative statement!
get real-
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what opportunity am i taking advantage of by voting you?In post 1324, DOMO wrote:Basically your attack on me reeks of scum motivated opportunism. You're using town tells against me, while dismissing my genuine concerns about your lack of reads on those you are hoping to lynch.
immediately lashing out at someone who is helping you lynch a scumread based on flimsy evidence isn't a towntell-
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why are you using hypotheticals when i am criticizing the quality of the actual argument you made?In post 1344, DOMO wrote:So let me get this straight - you think that swithcing from A to B based on B's comments about A is a scum tell, not town tell?
please explain for us again why sc is scum-
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chainsaw implies some sort of subtlety
i am straight up calling your reason for suspecting him bad. not insincere or disingenuous or whatever other word you want to put in my mouth.
not only is "i don't think varsoon was sincere" an indefensible criticism, the more salient point is that the only reason he got your attention was because he wanted to "latch on to a compelling case" that you had just made on SSK.
did you not want ssk lynched? your reaction doesn't make sense from the point of view of a townie pursuing a scum lynch.-
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yes it does
he's been trying to steer my actions into a chainsaw from the beginning by misrepresenting my argument as a defense of sc and not a criticism of his shitty reasons and even poorer timing, which it clearly was.
his first response to my vote was to ask how i "know" that sc is town when i never even came close to saying that-
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bad votes that do not look like natural town responses are scummy
you'd been pushing ssk as scum all game, you dismantled the korean wagon to get the ssk wagon going, and then you bailed on your scumread again because someone was looking for a compelling case to latch on to. <---that's weak reasoning + bad timing, which makes your jump on to sc objectively bad (and scummy)
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ssk was your only scumread for approximately 400 posts and you weren't around for the first 600. why are you laughing at something that is obviously accurate? you have been attacking ssk all game up until now, which is exactly what i saidIn post 1365, DOMO wrote:"All game" made me laugh, because we're half way through d1.
So no, I have not been attacking SSK "all game", I attacked his entrance, voted for him, then found something else I didn't like. You're basically saying I'm scummy for doing what I always do on d1 - try to figure out people's motivations.-
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this is so badIn post 1404, DOMO wrote:
Nice scumclaim. Don't think? You should KNOW if you're town.In post 1401, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I also don't think that's a scumtell for me.
Yeah I feel really good about this lynch now.
but nacho's meek response to such a retarded accusation did not sit well with me either
why did you even entertain Domo on this Nacho?-
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In post 1567, Stuffed Crust wrote:EBWOP:
Add Sakura to the people I'm suspicious of.
If I had to make a scum-pool now, though?
Pieguyn,
Sakura,
Desperado,
Casso.
Feels right to me.Vote: Stuffed Crust
what happened to you being sure that one of Korean/SSK was scum Varsoon?
you know who likes to create arbitrary dichotomies? scum.
what's weird about my voting pattern?
and you saying this reeks of scum-desp is seriously the fucking dumbest thing you have ever said. justify it-
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oh am i?In post 1650, Stuffed Crust wrote:As for your voting patterns, it's weird that you're sheeping each and every one of the fat wagons.
which ones did i sheep?
last i checked i was 2nd on you and 2nd on domo and i haven't voted anyone else this game-
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that's cool but ssk or korean scum was the first stance you took all game. why did you forget about it and then have to retcon him back in later?In post 1650, Stuffed Crust wrote:
Hey, check this out, where I'm still calling BBQ scum because I still believe he's scum.In post 1632, Stuffed Crust wrote:I
[/color]Not so Town:
pieguyn - reeks of the town pieguyn I remember, but his vote patterns are awkward.
Sakura Hana - Pretty scummy due to votes, interaction, lurkdom, etc.
MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) - Feels scum. Hung up on the reads thing.
KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) - Has taken too much of a back seat. GiF hasn't danced with me yet. Probably scum.
Desperado - Lacks Desperation, reeks of scum-desp, weird voting patterns.
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You know who cherry-picks? Probably everyone, but you're doing it here in a way that's obvious fallacious.
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In post 1668, Stuffed Crust wrote:I've played a few games with Desperado, so yeah, there's some meta basis.
Not that it matters?-
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i don't remember what you're talking about, but it's probably because i was trying to look town in xenogearsIn post 1677, BROseidon wrote:
Then why are you using the same argument against Varsoon that scum-you used against me in Xenogears?In post 1673, Desperado wrote:nope
pedit: not really, I play day 1 predominantly by small-scale associative tells to try to build out the larger game narrative.
pedit2: that's because you're forced to respond in the pro-town way to avoid looking scummy. It's like how I can't question day 1 miller/pgo/hated/etc claims until at least day 2-3 because if I do it day 1 then I'm obviously scum.
In post 1696, Casso the King of Seals wrote: He also created arbitrary dichotomies in Ngame.
Why are you voting them?
why so fixated on ngame?In post 1703, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I expected muffin to come in with more blazing glory. Right now he feels more like he did in touhou as opposed to him as the tracer of rails.-
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hahaha whatIn post 1781, Casso the King of Seals wrote:That looks really skeevy and Desp fails to address Stuffed's pretty excellent counter of Desp's "case"-
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at the time of the post I quoted, "one of Korean/SSK is scum" was one of the only things varsoon had gone on record withIn post 1820, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Now do you understand?
i don't buy his explanation for why one of them was missing from his scum pool and then there later.
i think he forgot what he said and realized it later
because he's scum and he doesn't really believe one of korean/ssk is scum
doyouunderstand now?-
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so what else do you have to justify the stance other than it reminds you of xenogears?In post 1837, Stuffed Crust wrote:My initial call of SSK/BBQ having scum in it wasn't arbitrary, either.-
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this is your case for korean/ssk scumIn post 1111, Stuffed Crust wrote:Besides, this reminds me of Xenogears. We began the game with a town/scum crossvote of two wagons that grew over the course of a long day 1. It's a very similar situation, and from ISOs of both players I'm not really convinced they're both town, y'know?
no mention of what in their isos lead you to this conclusion, or why xenogears is even remotely relevant to their alignment
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that's coolIn post 1880, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
It shows that he makes weird false dichotomies as town!In post 1877, Desperado wrote:i also don't think varsoon's townplay after replacing in to a game where 90% of the sorting had already been done is indicative of much of anything
i already said i don't care if he did it as town once. why do you suppose he can't justify his stance beyond "i isoed them and it's like xenogears"?-
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rightIn post 1881, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
He posted before you started interacting with them.In post 1879, Desperado wrote:as far as i can tell mac hasn't posted since i started interacting with them
which means i haven't read it-
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so why are you telling me you did instead of just quoting you doing it and making me look like a total ass?In post 1889, Stuffed Crust wrote:
Except I ALREADY DID.In post 1884, Desperado wrote:
that's coolIn post 1880, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
It shows that he makes weird false dichotomies as town!In post 1877, Desperado wrote:i also don't think varsoon's townplay after replacing in to a game where 90% of the sorting had already been done is indicative of much of anything
i already said i don't care if he did it as town once. why do you suppose he can't justify his stance beyond "i isoed them and it's like xenogears"?
I guess you just ignore anything that might prove you wrong and cherry-pick things that are convenient for your 'case', even if you're outright lying about them--as I've proven.
I'm getting pretty sick of you parroting non-issues like they're somehow relevant.
i already quoted what i consider your korean/ssk case. make me look stupid.-
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