NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[DOMO]

And yes of course it's an OMGUS vote - you do indeed suck.

[BROseidon]

9. Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon) - Half of varsoon's shit has pinged me, I dunno.

I wanna talk about this.

I'm around.

Solid, just got out of my LoL game.

I find Varsoon to be disturbingly agreeable.

[MC Maraca]

9. Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon) - Half of varsoon's shit has pinged me, I dunno.

I wanna talk about this.

I'm around.

Solid, just got out of my LoL game.

I find Varsoon to be disturbingly agreeable.

For me it's the "I'm town this game too" shit but yes, you're right.

[BROseidon]

I don't follow

[MC Maraca]

Pie, I'm excited to play with you again, and it's really heartwarming that your vote is on my slot (again), but I'm town this time. You and me both know we could argue semantics 'till death and it's got no reflection of our alignments (we did this before, remember), so let's avoid that route. Instead, I want you to find scum with me.

^this

[BROseidon]

Does your meta binder have instances of town Varsoon being that agreeable?

[MC Maraca]

Sort of. Go skim his ISO in N's large theme.

[BROseidon]

Ugh that's 2 games I need to look at now.

[Tammy]

I am just 12 pages behind now!!! If everyone could stop posting for like the 18-20 so that I actually have a chance to catch up fully that would be really awesome!

[Tammy]

Oh I think doom is town

[Brian Skies]

Will post after my exams are over (tomorrow or Friday).

And I'm not even close to caught up in this game right now.

[Sakura Hana]

15. Sakura Hana - Do something super town so I can put you up a rank please.

Nah too lazy.

Besides im at the point of breaking out anyways.

[Generic]

Also, given GOodmorning has done the square root of sod all why have a few got such a strong town read on her?

Is she known as town for being awkward, no use and then absent?

Sorry my life has made things so difficult for you.

Rest assured that I am here now and working up a readslist.

Where did I say things are made difficult for me?

I am pointing out townreading you based on absolutely nothing I ludicrous. If you are genuinely away and noturkng then your absense is null making the only discernability to your alignment the posts you actually have made... Which are nothing posts.

So at best you are null, unless you are happy to believe your town meta is to be utterly useless to town?

[Desperado]

Basically your attack on me reeks of scum motivated opportunism. You're using town tells against me, while dismissing my genuine concerns about your lack of reads on those you are hoping to lynch.

what opportunity am i taking advantage of by voting you?

immediately lashing out at someone who is helping you lynch a scumread based on flimsy evidence isn't a towntell

[DOMO]

Well I just ISO'd good morning to see how null I consider her, and I'm leaning town based on what little she's posted. She seems relaxed and confident. Obviously I'll want more to form a solid read on her, but I've got no problem with her sitting in my town camp for now.

@desperado -

immediately lashing out at someone who is helping you lynch a scumread based on flimsy evidence isn't a towntell

So it's a scum tell?

[Desperado]

yes

bad cases that don't follow logically from your previous stances are scummy

[Stuffed Crust]

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

[Stuffed Crust]

(that was the MAC, this is the SOON)

MC Maraca:

Why does your reads-list seem like a consensus more than anything to me? It doesn't sit right, and I don't feel like you're taking any risks with any of your reads. It bugs me.

Also-also, can we talk about the weird thing happening between DOMO and Desperado right now? I don't know how to read it, because it feels like both votes can be scum-motivated out of the fact my wagon didn't gain any steam. They both feel very opportunistic to me. That said, I don't feel like there's bussing going on right here (although I've never seen someone bus as hard as Desperado). What do you guys think?

-V

[Cephrir]

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

coming back to this, why did you say later in this phrase, cephrir?

Because...that's...what happened...???

[DOMO]

yes

bad cases that don't follow logically from your previous stances are scummy

So let me get this straight - you think that swithcing from A to B based on B's comments about A is a scum tell, not town tell?

No it's not, you are grossly mistaken. It's either a town tell, or a null tell. It can be considered null because maybe I'm deliberately switching so I can suggest it's a town tell. I don't actually expect to be suddenly considered clear because I changed my vote to someone who was supporting my previous case. But to present it directly as a scum tell is either stupid, or scummy. I changed my vote from SSK to SC because of SC's pressing of SSK. That's using new information to adjust my reads. That's not something scum does unless they are attempting to mimic their town game.

[Desperado]

So let me get this straight - you think that swithcing from A to B based on B's comments about A is a scum tell, not town tell?

why are you using hypotheticals when i am criticizing the quality of the actual argument you made?

please explain for us again why sc is scum

[Empire]

Prodding Casso the King of Seals.

[DOMO]

So let me get this straight - you think that swithcing from A to B based on B's comments about A is a scum tell, not town tell?

why are you using hypotheticals when i am criticizing the quality of the actual argument you made?

please explain for us again why sc is scum

I can't explain why SC is scum, because I do not know if he is or isn't. I can only explain why I voted for him, which I have done several times. You're critisising my argument for voting him, which is basically that I felt he was not sincere in his comments relating to SSK, an argument you believe is weak and scummy. Yet here you are voting for me because you don't believe the sincerity of my case on SC. Your attack on me is no better than my attack on SC. The only difference is that I abandoned a scum read when I switched, which is something you seem to think is a scum tell, while I'm arguing differently, pointing out that scum are less likely, not more likely, to abandon one read in favour of another.

What you're doing is a chainsaw defence of SC. So, once again I'll ask you to explain why you have a strong enough town read on him to feel obliged to defend him.

[Desperado]

chainsaw implies some sort of subtlety

i am straight up calling your reason for suspecting him bad. not insincere or disingenuous or whatever other word you want to put in my mouth.

not only is "i don't think varsoon was sincere" an indefensible criticism, the more salient point is that the only reason he got your attention was because he wanted to "latch on to a compelling case" that you had just made on SSK.

did you not want ssk lynched? your reaction doesn't make sense from the point of view of a townie pursuing a scum lynch.

[Generic]

So let me get this straight - you think that swithcing from A to B based on B's comments about A is a scum tell, not town tell?

why are you using hypotheticals when i am criticizing the quality of the actual argument you made?

please explain for us again why sc is scum

I can't explain why SC is scum, because I do not know if he is or isn't. I can only explain why I voted for him, which I have done several times. You're critisising my argument for voting him, which is basically that I felt he was not sincere in his comments relating to SSK, an argument you believe is weak and scummy. Yet here you are voting for me because you don't believe the sincerity of my case on SC. Your attack on me is no better than my attack on SC. The only difference is that I abandoned a scum read when I switched, which is something you seem to think is a scum tell, while I'm arguing differently, pointing out that scum are less likely, not more likely, to abandon one read in favour of another.

What you're doing is a chainsaw defence of SC. So, once again I'll ask you to explain why you have a strong enough town read on him to feel obliged to defend him.

I have been town reading you up to now domo but this semantics bullshit is getting tiring.

If someone asks you why someone is scum, they are referring to why you have considered them scummy. That's pretty damn obvious, only people certain of alignments are scum so the fact you feel you have to correct the semantics reeks of a panic over trying not to seem like you know alignments.