NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Desperado]

fwiw if Casso is town then SAD is scum

also, if Tammy is good at reading casso that might explain the tammy kill 0.0

tammy is good at reading 75% of this playerlist. we all benefitted from her death.

[Cephrir]

I can't remember if Ffery helped town run Nacho up in Hard boiled. This isn't quite like Wisdom's game or 1429. 1429 was because Nacho was going after low hanging fruit and flip flopping on a newbie. Open was a messed up noisy game.

I didn't. My vote was on salmonella dr at the end of that game day IIRC. I was considering a vote change, but wanted to synch with GiF first. I think that was my second game with Tammy, and I wasn't sure what to make of her case about Nacho being "robotic", but she seemed super confident of her read.

I saw that though, and eventually agreed with her. It's a perfect description of what was wrong there, and I haven't seen a ton of scumcho elsewhere (in which I wasn't also scum anyway) but this is not happening here. =///

[DOMO]

fwiw if Casso is town then SAD is scum

also, if Tammy is good at reading casso that might explain the tammy kill 0.0

tammy is good at reading 75% of this playerlist. we all benefitted from her death.

What the fuck is this man? This can't be town, how does town benefit from tammy's death? This is either the worst scumslip I can possibly imagine actually happening, or town posting shit purely to look scummy so he can play scum easier, or some shit like that. It makes no sense as town, and is awful as scum.

Please explain this.

[Casso the King of Seals]

DOMO, you were waiting for scum to join my wagon?
Here they are.

[DOMO]

Possibly. Maybe they're bussing you.

unvote

I'm going out, I'll take a look at this when I'm back.

desp and ceph have just shot up my list.

[Casso the King of Seals]

A townread coming from you? =O What happened to "I have no idea what you were doing in Castle, and I have no idea what you're doing when you play"

it should be pretty evident that i now feel like i have an idea of what you're doing when you play

Bro, this is I'm not sure what - a warning I guess. I'm teetering on the precipice of massive paranoia about you.

Muffin, Desp, I've already fallen into the abyss. I would totally lynch either of you today.

is this supposed to be some kind of grand revelation?

ps why are you helping us mislynch casso then? surely you don't think muffinscum and despscum would be bussing nachothorscum right now

unvote
vote: casso

Hello Desp!

[Bert]

Are you Nacho...

[DOMO]

idk about ceph actually, for some reason I thought he was on casso too, and him ignoring desp's comment sorta pinged.

desp though really needs to explain that post.

[Bert]

What is there to explain about it? I took it as meaning that Tammy's reads now become valuable since she's confirmed as town.

[DOMO]

I suppose. I wish you'd have let him answer that. But I still find it weird because I don't feel like I benifitted from tammy's death, we'd be better off if she were still alive, so I don't see how that mindset is town.

[Bert]

Also <SAD, Pie, Muffin> is my guess

Ceph is weirding me out too. That's for those that wanted scumreads or whatever. Always, no matter what you do, take my "gut reads" with a grain of salt. There's nothing meaningful in them that you can probe into, and there's little to zero explanation behind gut reads.

P-edit: He can still answer that.

[geists]

Nacho's play here does feel kind of like where he has a strong spurt of "I gotta town this baby up, let's try to be charismatic in tons of walls via quantity and faux quality"...but then he starts limping off again and being helluva scummy

I also wonder how much of the scumreading is due to Thor being interpreted incorrectly as Nacho,

or them wanting us to intentionally interpret them as the wrong hydra head

.

Not getting any sense of the latter. Thorposts are obvious Thorposts. There's a chance Nacho is emulating Thor occasionally, but in our own Sangres games, I don't remember either of us ever claiming a post made by the other if someone asked, regardless of alignment.

And given how often I read "Is that a ffery post?", "Yes/No (as appropriate)", "VOTE THE FUCK OUT OF THE HYDRA" when town, it's commitment to transparency that drives me answering those questions at all.

[DOMO]

I'm probably still gonna vote casso, but I need to take this in a little. My lift is here, back in a few hours.

[Bert]

Vote: Ser Arthur Dayne

[geists]

I suppose. I wish you'd have let him answer that. But I still find it weird because I don't feel like I benifitted from tammy's death, we'd be better off if she were still alive, so I don't see how that mindset is town.

I had a different interpretation of what desp meant. Won't elaborate until desp has a chance to reply.

[Bert]

Ser Arthur's tone has been very Lhords of Mystery Open 505 esque. Can't see him or her as town. That's really all I've got. *cracks up*

[Sakura Hana]

fwiw if Casso is town then SAD is scum

also, if Tammy is good at reading casso that might explain the tammy kill 0.0

tammy is good at reading 75% of this playerlist.

we all benefitted from her death.

Unvote
Vote: Desp

[Casso the King of Seals]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

Not as confident as I once was here, but I like it better than anything else.

Why not Desp, Cephrir?

[Desperado]

fwiw if Casso is town then SAD is scum

also, if Tammy is good at reading casso that might explain the tammy kill 0.0

tammy is good at reading 75% of this playerlist. we all benefitted from her death.

What the fuck is this man? This can't be town, how does town benefit from tammy's death? This is either the worst scumslip I can possibly imagine actually happening, or town posting shit purely to look scummy so he can play scum easier, or some shit like that. It makes no sense as town, and is awful as scum.

Please explain this.

pie was speculating that tammy dying might further implicate casso as scum

this is pretty stupid, considering 75% of the player list would benefit from her death if they had rolled scum

in other words, tammy's death is null because no matter who ended up getting a scum role pm, they would have incentive to kill tammy n1

you get it now?

[Casso the King of Seals]

#4910 - The vote on F-16 was Thor. Thor came into the game frustrated because the only wagons that were gaining any traction whatsoever were townreads, and the reason that was happening is because there were too many alpha personalities clashing with each other and pushing through vanity wagons in order to get anything decent through. I came into the QT, essentially said that I would just start strong arming whatever lynch looked good and wasn't a townread; that lynch was Sakura. I kept my vote on F-16 while engaging him in order to pressure him to step it up and help me find a good scumread to strongarm, but I ended up finding Sakura without his help at all.

The Thor quote talking about things he's not supposed to pretend exists is an ongoing games reference we were warned for - would rather not talk about that.

[Desperado]

fwiw if Casso is town then SAD is scum

also, if Tammy is good at reading casso that might explain the tammy kill 0.0

tammy is good at reading 75% of this playerlist.

we all benefitted from her death.

Unvote
Vote: Desp

that better be the sound of sakuratown reads shattering all over the game that i'm hearing

[Bert]

I kept my vote on F-16 while engaging him in order to pressure him to step it up and help me find a good scumread to strongarm, but I ended up finding Sakura without his help at all.

So you Nacho think Sakura is scum at this moment?

[Desperado]

Hello Desp!

sup

[Casso the King of Seals]

Day 1, Votecount 69

Sakura Hana (10)

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Tammy, Casso the King of Seals, DOMO, Ser Arthur Dayne, Sakura Hana, geists, Desperado, KoreanBBQ, MC Maraca, Bert

Casso the King of Seals (3)

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zMuffinMan, goodmorning, Generic

Stuffed Crust (2)

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Cephrir, pieguyn

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (1)

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BROseidon

goodmorning (1)

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Norlkaz

Not Voting (3)

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MafiaSSK, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Stuffed Crust

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 26th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-26 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Varsoon head of Stuffed Crust V/LA until January 25th. F-16_Fighting_Falcon is V/LA until the 31st. goodmorning is V/LA until the 26th. DOMO is V/LA until the 27th. Generic is V/LA until the 26th.

This wagon was the basis of the DOMO/SAD group. After Sakura towned, I had townread on every person on is wagon with the exception of you and SAD. Thus, when it turned out that Sakura was highly highly likely to be town, the lesser townreads on this wagon (who were hanging out with a bunch of strong strong townreads) seemed a whole lot worse.

My "strong town" reference was also not a reference to players who I felt were strong town players; it was a reference to my strong town reads (which were likely to be at the time SC and F-16). You weren't in that list.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I kept my vote on F-16 while engaging him in order to pressure him to step it up and help me find a good scumread to strongarm, but I ended up finding Sakura without his help at all.

So you Nacho think Sakura is scum at this moment?

No, I don't.