NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins
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Swag136 wrote:Parabollocks wrote:Could you give your reasons?
both me and hiraki.
Well Hiraki I was kind of following Idher, but I realize he isn't scum, and do you really need an explanation?
What on Earth is this. You need to explain why you suspected either of these players with real reasons.
Parabollocks wrote:anyways, besides the point, still waiting on swag.
You're not the only one, stop trying to look productive.-
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Hiraki wrote:
You realize that I was looking for reactions, no?Ythan wrote:It's not as if you're making any effort to get us somewhere more useful. You haven't made one valuable post all game.
I'm serious now, and I have been for awhile.
If you can say I have no valuable posts, then lmao.
Making dumbass posts all day and then saying you were reaction fishing isn't exactly a new excuse.-
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Ethos wrote:1. Sways eagerness to get the game started and constant observation of the thread as shown in post #23 reads as a town-tell. Mafia would have no instant need to rush into the gamestart as they would be much more interested in discussing thoughts and tactics in the mafia QT. I don't find his L-1 vote a scum-tell purely due to his lack of experience.
2. Oversouls claimage over the ownership of the Idher wagon reads as a town-tell, I don't see scum openely taking responsibility as an Idher town-flip would put them in an awful position, similary I don't see Oversoul bussing Idher.
1. You're exaggerating his activity and framing it as townish when there is no reason to take it that way.
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Ethos wrote:Ythan wrote:You're the one who brought his newbie status into this and yet the rest of your argument falls apart when you don't sweep that under the rug.
...No, it really doesn't.
Regardless of whether he is a newbie or not it is still a towntell. I think the fact that he is a newbie makes it more of a towntell.
I don't really know how to explain this any more plainly to you. You're wrong. If you're both wrong then fortunately you're a hydra and not two wasted votes.-
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Ethos wrote:For now Parabollocks can you provide links to your offsite scum-games.
Specifying only scum games invalidates what you are pretending to be doing here btw.
Ethos wrote:Ythan wrote:Ethos is speaking in ridiculous absolutes imo.
What was the point of this post?
To criticize you for using ridiculous absolutes. Selective ones, as Spyre contributed.-
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1 is definitely possible. 2 is not out of the question.Ethos wrote:1) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if they were partners together?
2) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if it were to result in a town-flip?
Our reads are not rock solid, if they were we would be yelling for everyone to unvote Para however I believe it's needed to mention them as we attain them.
This has absolutely nothing to do with your dealing in absolutes.
Ethos wrote:Spyrex, chill. Right now it is Reg Vs. Spyrex and Ythan Vs. Slaxx, though Ythan has decided to completely close the discussion off with insults, which is fine with me, I'm fucking tired of his dense ass anyway.
Lol what. I'm not doing anything like that. Flail scum flail.-
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If you can't get simple facts through your head I'm not going to waste my time pounding them in for more than a post or two.Ethos wrote:What do you call "Your argument is dumb" if it isn't closing off discussion? It sure as fuck isn't opening discussion up.
Stop making dumb arguments.Tell me exactly how I respond to "You argument is dumb".
Also, lol@ calling me flailing scum. Here's a protip: look at my scum games. I don't flail as scum. And I'm not flailing here either, at all. I'm sticking by this read because despite what you say its logical and it makes sense to me. If you don't like it, okay, fine, we have a difference of opinions, it happens. But I'm right and you're wrong, ftr.
Yeah no. Your self-meta and refusal to call your flailing spade a spade doesn't mean shit.-
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Ethos wrote:Ythan wrote:Ethos wrote:You are literally trying to through flak at me every opportunity you get.
Fucking cry about it. I'm criticizing your actions. If you don't like it go to Neopets or something.
Go fuck yourself Ythan, there was no need for this at all.
Well you won't quit trying to frame my play against your slot in whatever bullshit way you choose to as an attempt to undermine me without addressing me. So yeah fcai.-
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Activity as in the activity you were discussing, not his posting frequency.Ethos wrote:1. We never mentioned his activity and we've explained our reasoning behind our read on him.
No, see, you're lying. And you're framing it as something on which we can't hope to come to an agreement so you can avoid supporting it.2. We've already discussed this and it boils down to a different opinion on logical conclusions that can be drawn or not.
You're disagreeing with my reasonable logic.This is the defintion of disagreement on reasonable logic.-
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Ethos wrote:Ythan wrote:You're using selective and ridiculous absolutes. And that's one part of why I'm calling you scum.
They are selective to you, not me. I'm totally up for the fact that I might be wrong, but don't think I am. I use ridiculous absolutes a lot, its just what I do. Yeah, its self meta, but its what I do. You can literally look back at any of my recent games and see that I have adapted a new strategy of committing to town reads and lynching based on PoE in the non-town read pool. It happened in nightless. From my point of view, it looks like you are calling me scum because I am wrong. And I realize that some of those tells were stretches but they were literally from pregame to our current page we were on before this started. So yeah, some of the tells would be stretches at first. Its the beginning of the game, so its to be expected. What specifically is scummy about the selective absolutes? Where specifically are we being selective?
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No, they're selective. You picked one specific player to apply one very specific opinion to to the exclusion of all the intelligent things you could have contributed.-
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Quilford wrote:Ythan wrote:Quilford wrote:Ythan: I don't care. Draw a conclusion.
I drew a conclusion and included him in my three scumreads. Did you make it that far?
Why did you not post this in your original reply?
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Ethos: will do
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Because it'sobvious? He placed the latest vote on a wagon then backed off it with the explanation that it was moving too fast for his liking. How many interpretations of that can you make. It was clearly a criticism and I'm awaiting his response.-
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Ethos wrote:God Ythan give me specifics. Quote me, tell me why you believe the thought process is incorrect.
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Yeah I JUST quoted like four posts I had made at you from before this all blew up. It is inconceivable that you have this much trouble keeping up. You're obfuscating, and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt.-
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Town doesn't know town is town.Quilford wrote:They're doing an excellent job at eliciting emotional responses from each other and I see no reason for town players to do that
Quilford wrote:First you said you couldn't answer because he hasn't posted since then
now you say it's obvious?
I never said I couldn't answer it. You asked me to do something with my question and I said he hadn't been on. You asked for how it related to my read and I told you, as if it wasn't plain enough to begin with.-
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