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umm what? so you are voting me because....Ku_F wrote:As ShadowGirl undid her spell, I'llunvote.
Instead, I'llvote CuriousKarmaDog. What scum (scum used that tell right?) did in a previous game, doesn't mean that some other scum would use it in the same game.
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omg, you dont like me asking questions?Stef wrote:What's up with all the questions?!Vote CKDbecause there's no moon on the sky tonight!
Should I let that slide, because you appear to be new and most likely will get bored with the game a quit before it is done anyway. but on the off chance that I am wrong about you quitting...
without asking questions at all, how do you plan on scum hunting? - and/or - why do you have a problem with me asking Ku_F to clarify her reason? - and/or - what is your problem with questions and how many mafia games have you played?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I am not voting you am I?..also how many pages into the game do you feel good about voting randomly?Stef wrote:I say it's e. e. Cummings in the sig.. so no mistery there.
About my vote what ShadowGirl said. The part with the moon should have made it clear
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so then essentially no real reason then.Ku_F wrote:It is? Didn't know that. [sarcasm]I'll never use a smiley ever again[/sarcasm]
CKD, I thought that your reason for a vote against Cybele is weak. [entry post]Besides, we women support each other this game[/entry post]. That's my reason to vote you.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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unvote vote BlackAdder
votes Skitzer when skitzer gets heat.
comes in and throws suspicion on Pop and Stef, when they are getting heat.
vote count comes out with Pop leading, he votes Pop.
I dont mind bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagon day 1, but this looks like he is trying act like he is participating, while adding nothing knew, scum hunting, or asking any questions.
Now Pop is "scummy" because he is attempting to deflect a Stef wagon, but he is also scummy because Stef is voting him. These are all silly stretches.BlakAdder wrote:Because you're trying to shift suspicion off of Stef, and along with Stef voting you, it looks like scum distancing.
What are your current thoughts on Cybele, tar, skitzer, armlx, and now myself. Do you have a completed game where you were scum that you can provide a link for?...a good link when you were town and felt like you played well?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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this is not a random vote...please explain to me HOW this is a random vote or how you indicated it was random...and so that I understand you..you are implying that we have provided the same amount of input into this game?BlakAdder wrote:So why don't you vote him, then? Suspicious...
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1.) Well I was going to say no I dont think Pop was scum. But now after his claim I am torn. I couldnt see Popscum, claiming vanilla so early, even as a joke or softclaim. I could see someone doing that if they really were vanilla and just bored...this is why I said it was anti-town and a super poor play. Now he has claimed doctor...he is either lying, or he was trying to be "slightly" scummy to avoid a NK....but his play has been anti-town and he hasnt been playing like a doctor should. Also he has been playing much different than another game I was in with him...that means little, but should be noted.Tarhalindur wrote:
CKD, I have some questions for you.
Do you think populartajo is scum? Why or why not?
Do you think Stef is scum? Why or why not?
Do you think skitzer is scum? Why or why not?
2.) I dont know about Stef, havent seen enough from him. He has mostly pouted about being called "dumb" and threatened to take his ball and go home...most likely he will be replaced before everything is said and done.
3.) Not enough from Skitzer either...though, reading his posts in a vaccum again has me leaning town.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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1.) You say I am "ripping out the context"...please then INSERT the context that I left out. It is easy to say someone is being oppurtunistic...but please explain how me picking up something I see as scummy and presenting it (WHEN NO ONE ELSE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO IT) is opportunistic.Erratus Apathos wrote:
Chainsawing: Attacking a player (BlakAdder) in a manner that discourages their attack on a third player (populartajo).curiouskarmadog wrote:wow, been playing this game for over a year...never heard the term chainsawing..please define.
Now that BA's had a chance to defend himself, I'll go into more detail.
1. CKD rips out the context of BA's wagon hops.
CKD makes a fair bit of effort to show that BA jumped on popular wagons, conveniently ignoring his reasons for getting on those wagons, in an effort to label him a wagon-hopper. This comes off as disingenuous and opportunistic, and not at all like legitimate scumhunting.curiouskarmadog wrote:unvote vote BlackAdder
votes Skitzer when skitzer gets heat.
comes in and throws suspicion on Pop and Stef, when they are getting heat.
vote count comes out with Pop leading, he votes Pop.
I dont mind bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagon day 1, but this looks like he is trying act like he is participating, while adding nothing knew, scum hunting, or asking any questions.
2. CKD attacks BA for logical fallacies regarding Tajo.
This section attempts to show that BA is wrong. Actually, it doesn't even do that; it only says that BA is wrong, but bear with me. Showing that he's wrong is fine, but it does dick-all to show that he'scuriouskarmadog wrote:
Now Pop is "scummy" because he is attempting to deflect a Stef wagon, but he is also scummy because Stef is voting him. These are all silly stretches.BlakAdder wrote:Because you're trying to shift suspicion off of Stef, and along with Stef voting you, it looks like scum distancing.scum. Why, then, did CKD attack him for being wrong? Discrediting the Tajo attack is a pretty good guess.
3. CKD focuses on the weakest link.
What's CKD's opinion on Tajo, or the rest of the Tajo wagon? He didn't say anything about them. He put the spotlight on the "silly stretches", ignoring the real case.
These three things all together tell me that he's trying to chainsaw on behalf of Tajo.
2.) I wasnt trying to show anyone as "wrong"...My point was that he was tunnel visioning. IF someone does A he is scummy, if someone does B (the opposite of A) he is scummy. To me it felt like BA was damning him if he did and damning him if he didnt. read my post again.
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Pop, if you really are the Doc, you played horrid...I dont think you are the Doc, though. There was no reason as Doc, you should have claimed anything as a joke Day 1. Most likely you are scum, I think you know you are going to die and you are just trying to pull out another Doc claim before you go. That isnt going to work.
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This is great...first I am attacked for defending Pop through a chainsaw (which I am still not getting)..
Now, I am fucking being attacked for hammering Pop when a.) HIS ALIGNMENT HAS NOT BEEN DISCLOSED YET and b.) by two people who were voting him.
Why are you asking me to defend my hammer before his alignment has been displayed? I think my post with the vote explains it. I dont believe the claim and I dont believe a doc would act that way...or maybe, you are role fishing? Maybe you will ahve to kill me tonight to find out.
Stef, if you were really hoping for a rational reply, why did you not unvote when he was at -1?..why didnt you ask anyone to unvote at -1?
I was pretty sure Pop was lying up until these past two posts.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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This is an easy vote…
Vote BlakAdder
This is just a gut thing, seen scum vote each other in the random vote stage too often..BlakAdder wrote:All right, I'm here. Awesome pre-game scene by the way.
All right, sovote: Steffor having Satan and Saddam Hussein in his avatar.
My problem with this statement is… why was Pop scummy looking for “deflecting” a Stef wagon? This makes no sense. It also makes no sense that Stef would be partially cleared if Pop flipped town. At this point in the game, Pop was the vote leader. Here you make it sound like Pop was scummy for deflecting a Stef wagon….but would that mean that Stef had to be scum for Pop to be scummy for doing this? I think BA had knowledge that Stef was scum (buddy) and Pop was town. When Pop flipped town, this was going to give BA a reason to ignore Stef…this was loose logic at best..luckily plenty of people noted it yesterday.BlakAdder wrote:@Stef: I already mentioned, everything that I think has already been said. But, overall, populartajo's vote on Sierra andbad defense of you are the reason he's scummy. Personally, you would not be that suspicious yourself if he had not tried to rush to your defense.
So,vote: populartajo. Since your scumminess relies on the assumption that you and tajo are partners, you'll be partially cleared if tajo flips town.
More of the same.
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Because the only reason I am suspicious of him is because of the potential connection to tajo. If tajo flips town, then that is gone.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:You misunderstand the question, I think. How would he be at all cleared?BlakAdder wrote:Because you're trying to shift suspicion off of Stef, and along with Stef voting you, it looks like scum distancing.
This line of reasoning looks fluffish to me as well.
In reference to this post by PopBlakAdder wrote:I don't know about everyone else, but these freakouts pretty much confirm it for me. That and the fact that he said he was a power role, but didn't bother to actually say what.
I don’t think BA ever had any intention of unvoting Pop.populartajo wrote:OF COURSE IM A POWER ROLE. I WOULDNT BE FIGHTING THIS HARD IF I WERE VANILLA.
ITS THE SAME FOR ME. LYNCH ME OR LET SCUM KILL ME TONIGHT.
I PLAYED HORRIBLY I RECOGNIZE BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY WAGON SIMPLY CANT BE SCUM AND JUMP AGAINST ME EVEN THOUGH IVE EXPLAINED WHY I AM NOT SCUM.
I AM A DOCTOR.
DO WHATEVER YOU WANT GUYS. IM DONE.
In the face of a Pop (town) lynch, he was setting up reasoning to put Stef (scum) into a most likely town catagory with logic that not only didnt make sense. Again, why was Pop scummy for deflecting a Stef wagon? Also, how exactly was Pop deflecting anything?BlakAdder wrote:Whoops, missed that, but I don't believe him anyway.
also sticking with my post from yesterday
curiouskarmadog wrote:unvote vote BlackAdder
votes Skitzer when skitzer gets heat.
comes in and throws suspicion on Pop and Stef, when they are getting heat.
vote count comes out with Pop leading, he votes Pop.
I dont mind bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagon day 1, but this looks like he is trying act like he is participating, while adding nothing knew, scum hunting, or asking any questions.
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well stick around of end game chat Pop, but your play was horrid and you should be embarassed. I cant wait to hear why you felt fake claiming Doc was a good idea after claiming vanilla.populartajo wrote:armlx wrote:Sigh, what is it with vanilla townies thinking lying about their role is a good thing these days?
Oh yeah. Stupid ABR.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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AlsoFoSthese statements too..
sekinj wrote:Oh no! was that the hammer?
not worthy of a vote at this point given the blatant scumminess of BA, but they should be noted.Empking wrote:CKD: I can't believe you hammered before giving us time to evaluate his claim.
I wasn't going to unvote but I'd like the chance.
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so there is a blatant connection between Stef and BA....Stef (like you) attacked me yesterday for my hammer, without knowing Pop's alignment. BA throws up shitty logic in attempt to "partially clear" Stef today...but you think I AM more worthy of a vote than BA?Empking wrote:Vote: CKD
Far too quick hammer.
FoS: BAfor the reasons given above.
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what mistake did BA make(in your words please)?
What mistake did I make?
does this have anything to do with my FoS of you?
is it safe to say that you agree with the implication of this post?
and since Stef cant answer, can you please explain what is "too early"?Stef wrote:Yes that was the hammer.. i was hoping for a more rational reply from PT...
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Going to need a tad bit more from you.
"The same thing I picked up on the first time and the first time I talked to BA. "
Dont understand this statement, please site posts and be specific. What was BA mistake? The fact he was trying to partially clear anyone, or the fact that he was trying to partially clear scum? I do note you questioned him on this at the time...trying to figure out what you think was his mistake, I am still confused.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
And so that I understand, you think my "mistake" was a fast hammer and you "cant see how a townie (me) could've made a(that) mistake", thus I must be scum. have you ever seen a townie hammer someone that you deem was "too early"...have you ever seen scum hammer someone that you deem was "too early"?
I hammered because of the claim...I didnt beleive it. A decent doc would not play that way and I felt he was lying. As it turns out I was right...he was lying. I was also right for calling out Stef for attacking me (an implication was there if you want to admit it or not). I am pretty sure I am right about BA too.
You on the other hand, I am trying to figure out if you really believe what you are saying or if you are trying to push crap.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I dont really care that you and Emp questioned me yesterday. I found it strange that you, emp, and Stef questioned me about it while also having your votes on Pop. I didnt like the way Stef went about questioning me, though. It felt like it was an attack. I felt this was strange (and apparently so did someone else) because we didnt know the alignment of Pop yet. Like I said, Emp and yourself are only deserving of a FoS atm...and I can see how someone MIGHT think it was a scummy move and would bring it but today, but why attack me yesterday before the alignment reveal...this bothers me. At the time, I thought pop was lying so he deserved his lynching, but to blame the hammer for the entire lynch is a joke.
My problem with Emp, is that he feels I am SCUMMIER for one action (essentially voting with Emp) over BA's entire attitude and play yesterday.
I am looking forward ( I think) to everyone's thoughts on this.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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set up thoughts
the mod has experience in modding a game with two mafia teams. In that game there was no cross kill (wolves and mafia). If we have two mafias, I bet we also have a vig (of some sort) unless he is allowing cross kills. With evidence of a cult, I doubt we have a SK, but nothing should be ruled out.
I dont think we should worry (atm) about a cultist..it is not priority, but should be discussed later.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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if you really valued my input into this game you would not state this unprovoked. If anyone else thinks this, keep it to yourself for obvious reasons. And not that I want to argue someone defending me, but if there are two mafia teams, my interactions with Stef posthammer, only suggests my non affilation with one of those teams. I say this because I dont want people getting in the mind set that person X is obv town because of interaction with a particular scum.Tarhalindur wrote:Note 1: CKD looks pretty damn town to me right now, a few minor scummy actions notwithstanding. In particular, Stef's reaction to CKD's hammer does NOT look like bussing - it looks like trying to set up a second mislynch.
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so then, given that you want us to believe you dont have clue about anyone's alignment, ANYTHING could be considered buddying up in your point of view. How do you know who is distancing with anyone else? Was Stef, buddying (distancing) up with me when he attacked me for my hammer yesterday? I am buddying up with you by attacking (distancing) you today. Is Emp buddying up with you by attacking me (deflecting).BlakAdder wrote: My definition of buddying is any act of scum working together during the day. This includes deflecting suspicion and distancing.
is tar buddying up with me, when he says I am obv town?
your logic..or I think assumptions are confusing.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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way to shrink my case down...I never said he was actively lurking...my charges against him yesterday was oppurtunistic voting..today the "partially cleared" comment in only part of my problem with BAsekinj wrote:I don't like the case against BA. It boils down to accused "active lurking" and saying stef was "partially cleared" if tajo flipped town.
who do you think is scummy?
Also EMP, you are avoidng my questions now..or you just decided to answer one.
bolded the parts you overlookedcuriouskarmadog wrote:Going to need a tad bit more from you.
"The same thing I picked up on the first time and the first time I talked to BA. "
Dont understand this statement, please site posts and be specific. What was BA mistake? The fact he was trying to partially clear anyone, or the fact that he was trying to partially clear scum? I do note you questioned him on this at the time...trying to figure out what you think was his mistake, I am still confused.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
And so that I understand, you think my "mistake" was a fast hammer and you "cant see how a townie (me) could've made a(that) mistake", thus I must be scum. have you ever seen a townie hammer someone that you deem was "too early"...have you ever seen scum hammer someone that you deem was "too early"?
I hammered because of the claim...I didnt beleive it. A decent doc would not play that way and I felt he was lying. As it turns out I was right...he was lying. I was also right for calling out Stef for attacking me (an implication was there if you want to admit it or not). I am pretty sure I am right about BA too.
You on the other hand, I am trying to figure out if you really believe what you are saying or if you are trying to push crap.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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again, i am not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that you have already answered the question?..I dont feel like you have.Empking wrote:I felt I had to answer the quote I gave and wrote the answers to your questions I remembered.
what was BA mistake...was it a.) the fact he was trying to partially clear ANYONE b.) that he was partially trying to clear Stef (who we later discover to be scum, or c.) something else.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
There is more to my case than just the clearing of Stef..please address my points, I mean you have already walked down the road of defending BA..why stop?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I am obviously not understanding you, I dont understand your position...please quit saying you have already answered the question.
for this question just say a, b, or c...i can not make it any easier than that. I dont want to misquote you or assume you are saying something you are not...if the answer is "c" please explain it.curiouskarmadog wrote: what was BA mistake...was it a.) the fact he was trying to partially clear ANYONE b.) that he was partially trying to clear Stef (who we later discover to be scum, or c.) something else.
this is the 3rd time I have had to ask this particular question..dont ignore it.curiouskarmadog wrote: What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible
you have defended BA by saying you understand his mistake (though I still dont quite grasp what you think his exact mistake was). You have also avoided addressing my case agaist him twice.curiouskarmadog wrote:There is more to my case than just the clearing of Stef..please address my points, I mean you have already walked down the road of defending BA..why stop?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Emp, please dont take this as an insult, for it is not. Is english your first language?..I am having a hard time understanding your posts.
so you agree with me that BA was Opportunistically jumping on wagons, he tried to deflect a wagon off of KNOWN SCUM onto KNOWN TOWN, and his is not trying to scum hunt today or yesterday, but you still think I am the better lynch today because I hammered someone that you yourself had your vote on?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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your reason for voting cybele was completely different from mine.
I voted her Day 1 because she attacked skitzer for unvoting but not revoting...you are voting her
you are voting her because you want her to explain a joke...Erratus Apathos wrote:Not impressed by the BA case.
Vote: Cybele
I still expect an answer to this:
Erratus Apathos wrote:
...and what exactly was funny about it?Cybele wrote:It wasn't "Oops, RANDOM!", it was always a joke.
unless I am not understanding why you are voting her....was cybele stating that her skitzer vote was a random joke vote?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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ok going back, it looks like EA IS indeed asking Cybele to explain her explanation for voting skitzer as a joke,, so I think i misunderstood there. But the question still stands. given all the shit that happened yesterday, you are still harping on that? Might be worth looking at it later, but it is not enough to blatantly ignore what is going on today....I think BA is a much better lynch. You said you didnt like the BA case...why? What part of it do you not like? Seems to me that his actions yesterday should be at least warranting some sort of alarms, but you just seem to ignore it. And you dont find the fact that Emp is dodging my question interesting either?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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so you agree with me that BA was Opportunistically jumping on wagons, he tried to deflect a wagon off of KNOWN SCUM onto KNOWN TOWN, and his is not trying to scum hunt today or yesterday, but you still think I am the better lynch today because I hammered someone that you yourself had your vote on?
just want to put both of these posts together..so if something should happen to me tonight(or today), someone will follow up with this later.Empking wrote: CKD: Yes your the best person for me to vote on.
Sek, I think i have gotten all the clarification I am going to get out of Emp...he agrees with my case on BA, but thinks I am scummer.
New question Emp....lets say the town agrees with you (and EA) at Days end and lynches me. When I flip town..will you pursue my case tomorrow on BA, or will you continue ignoring it?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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your thoughts on my case against BA?Jebus wrote:Well, my computer's fixed and I'm back for now. I'ma read up a bit.
For now, though, anyone have any questions for me to look into?
your thoughts on my FoS at the beginning of the day?
Your thoughts on Emp and EA's "case" against me?
your thoughts on lurkers...NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I dont think you understand my case against BA...the fact that he used the word "cleared"...or "not scummy"..or what has little to do with it. the fact that he was trying to do it in the first place is ONE of my problems with BA. It is the action not the words. The others, i stated YESTERDAY and restated today...(ex: only voting the wagon of the hour and lack of scum hunting)...Erratus Apathos wrote:
I'm not ignoring BA. I came right out and said that I don't find him suspicious, I'd think that would imply that I'm paying attention to him.curiouskarmadog wrote:ok going back, it looks like EA IS indeed asking Cybele to explain her explanation for voting skitzer as a joke,, so I think i misunderstood there. But the question still stands. given all the shit that happened yesterday, you are still harping on that? Might be worth looking at it later, but it is not enough to blatantly ignore what is going on today....I think BA is a much better lynch. You said you didnt like the BA case...why? What part of it do you not like? Seems to me that his actions yesterday should be at least warranting some sort of alarms, but you just seem to ignore it. And you dont find the fact that Emp is dodging my question interesting either?
Once you get past BA's misuse of the word "clear", the main argument against him boils down to "he linked tajo to Stef". Which is true, but his reasons for linking them, and for attacking tajo rather than Stef, made sense at the time. Am I really supposed to believe that a townie couldn't read tajo's "give Stef some slack because he has a South Park avatar" bullshit and draw a connection? That makes sense to me.
Unless the wagon on BA isbecausehe misused the word "clear", in which case I should EBWOP a few million "really"s onto my "not impressed" post.
What question did Empking dodge? I don't see it.
also, you really dont see the what questions EMp has been dodging? Are you really going to make me go back and repost the whole back and forth? I assume you think i am just making it up?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Electra....the only people you have that are "low" (meaning you are leaning town) is armlx and ooba (who is a dead cult recruiter)..I take it you havent really read the game yet?
I appreciate the fact that you are taking a stance (sort of) on people, but how much stock should we put into your ratings?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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at first he provides short answers only giving a little information...and then
my post 322
Emp's next post was 359curiouskarmadog wrote:Going to need a tad bit more from you.
"The same thing I picked up on the first time and the first time I talked to BA. "
Dont understand this statement, please site posts and be specific. What was BA mistake? The fact he was trying to partially clear anyone, or the fact that he was trying to partially clear scum? I do note you questioned him on this at the time...trying to figure out what you think was his mistake, I am still confused.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
my next post 365Empking wrote:
Not as good as hitting a cult leader.skitzer wrote:Empking: and the killing of a mafia goon wasn't a good thing?
I'd like to look closer at the BlakAdder case, as it does seem promissing.
I haven't seen a townie hammer to early and I think I recall a scum hammer too early.
emp's reply 367curiouskarmadog wrote:
Also EMP, you are avoidng my questions now..or you just decided to answer one.
bolded the parts you overlookedcuriouskarmadog wrote:Going to need a tad bit more from you.
"The same thing I picked up on the first time and the first time I talked to BA. "
Dont understand this statement, please site posts and be specific. What was BA mistake? The fact he was trying to partially clear anyone, or the fact that he was trying to partially clear scum? I do note you questioned him on this at the time...trying to figure out what you think was his mistake, I am still confused.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
And so that I understand, you think my "mistake" was a fast hammer and you "cant see how a townie (me) could've made a(that) mistake", thus I must be scum. have you ever seen a townie hammer someone that you deem was "too early"...have you ever seen scum hammer someone that you deem was "too early"?
I hammered because of the claim...I didnt beleive it. A decent doc would not play that way and I felt he was lying. As it turns out I was right...he was lying. I was also right for calling out Stef for attacking me (an implication was there if you want to admit it or not). I am pretty sure I am right about BA too.
You on the other hand, I am trying to figure out if you really believe what you are saying or if you are trying to push crap.
Empking wrote:I felt I had to answer the quote I gave and wrote the answers to your questions I remembered.
we cross post on 369/370Empking wrote:Their's nothing wrong with your case, I just think you're scummier.
Emp 372curiouskarmadog wrote:
again, i am not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that you have already answered the question?..I dont feel like you have.Empking wrote:I felt I had to answer the quote I gave and wrote the answers to your questions I remembered.
what was BA mistake...was it a.) the fact he was trying to partially clear ANYONE b.) that he was partially trying to clear Stef (who we later discover to be scum, or c.) something else.
What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible.
There is more to my case than just the clearing of Stef..please address my points, I mean you have already walked down the road of defending BA..why stop?
me 373Empking wrote:I think I've already answered your question or at least the first question.
How have I been defending BA?
I did miss him addressing that he didnt think anything was wrong with my BA case...I actually just caught that in the porcessing of posting this...however, it is like pulling teeth to get him to clarify anything.curiouskarmadog wrote:I am obviously not understanding you, I dont understand your position...please quit saying you have already answered the question.
for this question just say a, b, or c...i can not make it any easier than that. I dont want to misquote you or assume you are saying something you are not...if the answer is "c" please explain it.curiouskarmadog wrote: what was BA mistake...was it a.) the fact he was trying to partially clear ANYONE b.) that he was partially trying to clear Stef (who we later discover to be scum, or c.) something else.
this is the 3rd time I have had to ask this particular question..dont ignore it.curiouskarmadog wrote: What is your opinion of my case against BA? Again, address my points (you dont have to address the 1st "gut" reason) and be as specific as possible
you have defended BA by saying you understand his mistake (though I still dont quite grasp what you think his exact mistake was). You have also avoided addressing my case agaist him twice.curiouskarmadog wrote:There is more to my case than just the clearing of Stef..please address my points, I mean you have already walked down the road of defending BA..why stop?
-----Empking wrote:I think B.
I'm not going to go point to point through any post until I find something that I disagree with.
he has answered all my questions to date..but HE DID dodge the questions at first...NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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another clarification, you feel my hammer was scummy, but the immediate votings that got Pop to -1 after the claim was not? why?Empking wrote:Jebus wrote:curiouskarmadog wrote:
You don't think quicklynching a claimed Doc is scummy?Jebus wrote:W
As for Emp and EA's "case", I don't think it holds any weight at all.
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so if my vote came before the hammer, you would not be up my ass today? But the fact that I hammered makes me scummy and ALL of the votes before and after the claim get a free ride?..
I thought he was lying..I didnt believe the claim, but didnt think we was that scummy(just a shitty player), until that claim...which again, I was right...
the lack of mentioning that, as you attack me is scummy..you only started considering that AFTER I have been calling you on it. Now that there has been some votes on BA and people are calling you suspicous are you now saying you might change your vote. And out of no where, BA's last post points to you as being suspicious only after you say you might consider switching votes...THAT interaction is amazing and I am surprised no one else has mentioned it.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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you are assuming a ton with you "case"....I thought he was lying, I didnt need to see how anybody reacted to his case.....if he would have been at 0 votes or -1 to lynch, i would have voted...again the fact you are trying to pin that lynch just on me is bullshit.
and you didnt answer the question...DID YOU BELIEVE HIS CLAIM?...you must have read it, whether you had time to react or not is irrelevant to MY question...did you believe his claim..yes or no?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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also, so I am not distracted..
given Pop's play yesterday..did you believe this claim (I can not make it any easier for you to answer)..forget that he was lynched...populartajo wrote:OF COURSE IM A POWER ROLE. I WOULDNT BE FIGHTING THIS HARD IF I WERE VANILLA.
ITS THE SAME FOR ME. LYNCH ME OR LET SCUM KILL ME TONIGHT.
I PLAYED HORRIBLY I RECOGNIZE BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY WAGON SIMPLY CANT BE SCUM AND JUMP AGAINST ME EVEN THOUGH IVE EXPLAINED WHY I AM NOT SCUM.
I AM A DOCTOR.
DO WHATEVER YOU WANT GUYS. IM DONE.
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