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In post 32, clearance only wrote:Thank you Radja. For being the single person to acknowledge the only serious vote cast thus far.
This feels like the beginning of a beautiful townblock.
-Sensei
Why are you being so weird?
My first Zelda was twilight princess and the best one is ocarina of time-
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In post 44, Cookie Bakers wrote:Feeling a little green at the moment. Shiro will be taking point for awhile. Hopefully just the day.
Being sick is an xpost on all games when I finish.
For now, let's see where thisphoenix thing goes.
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In post 53, SirCakez wrote:In post 43, Phoenix Wright wrote:Cleavage is saying that their vote was serious even though there was no reason for a serious vote. I didn't do anything suspicious. The other guy who voted me was being weird too, but I saw his post as more of a joke while cleavage seemed to mean what they were saying
They said your RVS vote was lame and disconnected. I'd say that's serious, no?
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In post 56, SirCakez wrote:Oh you misinterpreted my post.
I initially asked this
In post 42, SirCakez wrote:In post 37, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 32, clearance only wrote:Thank you Radja. For being the single person to acknowledge the only serious vote cast thus far.
This feels like the beginning of a beautiful townblock.
-Sensei
Why are you being so weird?
My first Zelda was twilight princess and the best one is ocarina of time
This is an odd reaction. How is cleavage only being weird?
And then I thought 43 was a response to that.
So then could you answer the post I just quoted now?
I thought I already answered it. Maybe I'm not understanding the question?-
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In post 59, SirCakez wrote:But why did you initially say they were being so weird? That's the question I initially asked.
I already answered that. They were voting seriously against me without having a reason to. That's weird-
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In post 72, clearance only wrote:In post 41, Nahdia wrote:How is that a serious vote? I see nothing "lame and most disconnected" about 'phoenix's RVS post. Spell it out if you're for reals yo.
Gut.
But I'll explain it the best I can.
There were things going on before PW posted his RVS. All the posts up till PW flowed in some way and were kinda "connected" to each other - they looked more or less like a natural progression out of rvs. PWs vote on cookies felt like a conscious effort to hurdle over all of it.
The biggest ping probably came from the reasoning attached, which was lame and came across like someone thinking about it too much.
In post 73, clearance only wrote:Am even more enthused about my PW vote now btw.
That was a pretty soft soft soft omgus + a throwaway question that I can't imagine helping him better his read on us with. Or better yet move the game along at all.
How could you even say that I was thinking about it too much with my vote lol. You're the one who's thinking too much. I was originally going to make a joke that cookies was baking people in the oven and not cookies, but I thought that was too morbid so I went with that other post. I seriously have no idea how you can say that "your name is highly suspicious" is me thinking too much. It couldn't have been more obvious that I wasn't serious. And your next post is complete bs because I didn't OMGUS you at all. I didn't even move my vote or anything. The question would progress the game because that was my way of asking you for the reason behind your vote. Pretty much everything that you've said in the game so far has been sketchy as hell, so now I am gonna vote for you
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In post 83, clearance only wrote:In other words you decidedly skipped 71.
Would still like an answer.
I already answered that. Read my last post again-
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In post 82, clearance only wrote:In post 79, Phoenix Wright wrote:How could you even say that I was thinking about it too much with my vote lol. You're the one who's thinking too much. I was originally going to make a joke that cookies was baking people in the oven and not cookies, but I thought that was too morbid so I went with that other post. I seriously have no idea how you can say that "your name is highly suspicious" is me thinking too much. It couldn't have been more obvious that I wasn't serious.
Never said that you were trying to be serious.
But you're taking my elaboration on a gut read, which, obviously isn't going to be concrete evidence and trying to "debunk" it.
Reads as scum who thinks they're caught for the wrong reasons pretty hard rn.
In post 79, Phoenix Wright wrote:And your next post is complete bs because I didn't OMGUS you at all. I didn't even move my vote or anything. The question would progress the game because that was my way of asking you for the reason behind your vote. Pretty much everything that you've said in the game so far has been sketchy as hell, so now I am gonna vote for you
Yea this is scum.
You're trying to wriggle out of a scumread by dancing around with semantics here. OMGUS comes in many forms besides votes.
You didn't ask for the reasoning behind my vote. You asked why I was being weird. <-This is the OMGUS coupled with you saying you were "slightly suspicious" of us later on in your interaction with cakes. But wanted to see more from us first. Pretty hedgy and looked like posturing to vote us. (oh hey look what happened)
What would an answer to that question accomplish for you? Why didn't you answer this when I asked you before?
You did say I was being serious. You said my RVS post was overthinking things. It wasn't. And I don't understand why you said earlier that my RVS post didn't connect to the other ones. They're not supposed to connect. It's called RANDOM vote stage for a reason. As for the rest of this post you're literally just asking me to repeat everything I just said. This is a waste of time. And none of your reasons for thinking I'm scum are valid. I think that you're scum who's making up silly reasons to justify your vote on me. Try to be more subtle next time lol-
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In post 87, clearance only wrote:In post 37, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 32, clearance only wrote:Thank you Radja. For being the single person to acknowledge the only serious vote cast thus far.
This feels like the beginning of a beautiful townblock.
-Sensei
Why are you being so weird?
So this is you asking me what my reason for voting you was?
Because that's not what it looks like to me.
What else would it be? -_--
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In post 89, clearance only wrote:In post 86, Phoenix Wright wrote:You did say I was being serious. You said my RVS post was overthinking things. It wasn't. And I don't understand why you said earlier that my RVS post didn't connect to the other ones. They're not supposed to connect. It's called RANDOM vote stage for a reason. As for the rest of this post you're literally just asking me to repeat everything I just said. This is a waste of time. And none of your reasons for thinking I'm scum are valid. I think that you're scum who's making up silly reasons to justify your vote on me. Try to be more subtle next time lol
Overthinking =/= serious.
Do you know what a gut read is?
Nothing in that post was addressed to you -it was an elaboration and solidification for the reasons that you rolled scum this game
Discredit me harder.
They're quite obviously the same thing. And how is a post where you quote me and talk about me not addressed to me? I don't even know what you're trying to say in that bolded part. Discredit me harder-
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In post 91, clearance only wrote:In post 88, Phoenix Wright wrote:What else would it be? -_-
I don't know that's why I asked? Like that's a pretty weird way to ask that especially when I gave the reason for voting you the very last page so?
If you can't think of anything else it could be then you have no reason act like its scummy or whatever. You're just proving that you're making up bs reasons to justify your scum read on me-
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In post 93, Dwlee99 wrote:This is T v T. stahp
He's not town. Town don't death tunnel people from the get go for no reason whatsoever-
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In post 99, clearance only wrote:Yea and if you can't figure out a reason for asking that other than the obvious bullshit that you were "asking me what my reason was" when you clearly weren't. Then you realize I have to go back to what I was assuming before right?
Soft omgus throwaway nothing question.
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In post 72, clearance only wrote:In post 41, Nahdia wrote:How is that a serious vote? I see nothing "lame and most disconnected" about 'phoenix's RVS post. Spell it out if you're for reals yo.
Gut.
But I'll explain it the best I can.
There were things going on before PW posted his RVS. All the posts up till PW flowed in some way and were kinda "connected" to each other - they looked more or less like a natural progression out of rvs.PWs vote on cookies felt like a conscious effort to hurdle over all of it.
The biggest ping probably came from the reasoning attached, which was lame andcame across like someone thinking about it too much.
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In post 103, beeboy wrote:
You need to take a step back and realize just because someone is pressuring you it doesn't make them scum. That is if you are town.
He's not scum for tunneling me. He's scum because it sounds like all of his reasons for why he says that he thinks I'm scum are horrible and seem insincere-
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In post 108, beeboy wrote:In post 106, Phoenix Wright wrote:He's not scum for tunneling me. He's scum because it sounds like all of his reasons for why he says that he thinks I'm scum are horrible and seem insincere
Whether or not I agree with that your reaction to the claims is much, much worse.
I don't think you'd react well to someone trying to mislynch you either-
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In post 111, clearance only wrote:In post 106, Phoenix Wright wrote:He's not scum for tunneling me. He's scum because it sounds like all of his reasons for why he says that he thinks I'm scum are horrible and seem insincere
I've been waiting for you to make a post that I've liked.
That hasn't happened yet.
And the longer it goes where you stick to your guns with this whole "he has no reason for voting me" when I've clearly had developing reasons and had an ever evolving read on you - the more convinced I get that you're flipping scum.
How is it an evolving read? You said that you think I'm scum and you just look for any little thing in my lists to nitpick do you can justify that initial read. I say that you don't have reasons to think that I'm scum because the logic behind your "reasons" is terrible-
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In post 110, Phoenix Wright wrote:That's not explaining anything. Why'd you think I was tying to "hurdle over it"? What gave you the impression that I was overthinking it?
Don't ignore this-
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In post 126, clearance only wrote:In post 118, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 110, Phoenix Wright wrote:That's not explaining anything. Why'd you think I was tying to "hurdle over it"? What gave you the impression that I was overthinking it?
Don't ignore this
Look, bro.
Sometimes I get gut reads in RVS. Sometimes I'll drop them. Sometimes I'll pursue them.
I can't explain the inner mechanisms of my mind anymore than that. The fact that you're demanding me to go into a gut read further based on a read that I got based on like what... 5 words? Andthen ignoring the reasonsI've brought up later on (which were pretty good) is very telling.
I haven't ignored anything-
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In post 129, clearance only wrote:You're choosing to focus on the weaker part of my case in an attempt to spin that I don't have valid reasons for voting you.
Because you don't. You just admitted that in your last post. You said that you didn't gave an explanation for coming to that conclusion.-
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In post 132, Nahdia wrote:I suck at quoting. Take 2.
You reeeeaaallly think scum would do this rather than just sit back and cruise for this part??In post 86, Phoenix Wright wrote:I think that you're scum who's making up silly reasons to justify your vote on me. Try to be more subtle next time lol
The same logic can be applied to me. Why would stick around here instead of just lurking until you all lose interest in me. According to cleavage, the more I post the scummier I seem so it would make more sense for a scum me to just stop posting. But I haven't-
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In post 137, clearance only wrote:In post 131, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 129, clearance only wrote:You're choosing to focus on the weaker part of my case in an attempt to spin that I don't have valid reasons for voting you.
Because you don't. You just admitted that in your last post. You said that you didn't gave an explanation for coming to that conclusion.
This is "scum who doesn't know why they're being scumread" to a fucking T.
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In post 139, beeboy wrote:In post 136, Phoenix Wright wrote:UNVOTE: I realized that cleavage isn't scum because if he was he'd know that they own would find him to be the most suspicious on day 2 after they saw me flip town. Pushing for my lynch this hard when he knows that I'm town would basically be suicide. So he's just dumb town
This un\/ote just feels like an attempt at discrediting your wagon.
how would it discredit anyone? I said that cleavage is town-
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In post 141, clearance only wrote:PW who's scum then?
You just backed down from the only hard stance you've taken so far.
Probably one of the people who have been free to lurk because you've been wasting everyone's time with your push. I'd say there's also a good chance that one of the people on my wagon is scum. I'll go look over everything again really quickly-
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In post 144, beeboy wrote:You said they where too stupid to be \/oting you as scum since it would be suicide. You literally reworded "I am towny af guise" but added an un\/ote.
I didn't say voting me as scum would be stupid. I said pushing for my lynch as hard as cleavage is would be stupid if he was scum. Doing that would make everyone's top lynch target on the next day. But just jumping on my wagon is pretty safe because you can just say that cleavage's arguments were convincing or that I just felt scummy to you.-
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In post 146, Nahdia wrote:beeboy is your V key broken or something???
Actually PW that unvote was awkward as hell. Scum push town all the time lmfao. That felt like such an lame excuse to unvote.....................
Okay-
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In post 151, Nahdia wrote:no u listen to me buster there were so many good ways to unvote there and appear like ur being reasonable and thinkin' about stuff but instead you're like "man lol this guy votin' me must just be an idiot! yeah that's it! he's just dumb " like c'mon man
It's not wrong though lol-
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In post 155, SirCakez wrote:Really don't like 136. Looks to me like an attempt to try to disengage from the argument when the tide turned against him.
Getting a good town read on cleavage from this argument.
Someone just unvoted me. How is that the tide turning against me?-
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In post 172, beeboy wrote:I think I ha\/e a pretty solid spot on PW and you guys are strawmaning the shit out of what is happening.
Lay down this solid case you have on me-
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In post 103, beeboy wrote:
You need to take a step back and realize just because someone is pressuring you it doesn't make them scum. That is if you are town.
Just realized that this isn't actually an answer to the question-
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In post 187, SirCakez wrote:What the hell why is Davsto the leading wagon?
VOTE: Phoenix Wright
He hasn't improved at all and the backtracking from earlier is still scummy.
He isn't the leading wagon. 2 people just unvoted him. And really don't know what all of you want from me. Of I let my vote on cleavage and kept arguing you'd say that I'm scum because none of you were actually listening to what I was saying. Toogeloo said the exact same things as me in response to cleavage's posts and nobody acted like they were bad points then. And when I unvoted because I realized how suicidal it would be for scum to hard push like that, it was also apparently scummy. So if defending myself is scummy and realizingbtahtbthe person I'm fighting and inviting is scummy what exactly was I supposed to?-
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In post 195, SirCakez wrote:In post 190, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 187, SirCakez wrote:What the hell why is Davsto the leading wagon?
VOTE: Phoenix Wright
He hasn't improved at all and the backtracking from earlier is still scummy.
He isn't the leading wagon. 2 people just unvoted him. And really don't know what all of you want from me. Of I let my vote on cleavage and kept arguing you'd say that I'm scum because none of you were actually listening to what I was saying. Toogeloo said the exact same things as me in response to cleavage's posts and nobody acted like they were bad points then. And when I unvoted because I realized how suicidal it would be for scum to hard push like that, it was also apparently scummy. So if defending myself is scummy and realizingbtahtbthe person I'm fighting and inviting is scummy what exactly was I supposed to?
This is very flawed. I've seen death tunneling scum who lived to endgame before, making a hard push like this is not suicidal at all. Defending yourself isn't scummy, its the way you tried to stop needing to defend yourself.
But that's not what I was trying to do. I know that this is a game where you have to deeply analyze people's posts, but you've all been over analyzing everything I've said for a long time now. There's no hidden agenda, there's no deeper meaning: when I say something I mean exactly what I'm saying. So when I have my reason for unvoting him, I was being genuine. You're seriously trying to tell me that after a mislynch you wouldn't be suspicious of the people who lead that wagon? Maybe you're right and I just don't know how it works. I've only finished one game after all, and it wasn't on this site-
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In post 203, SirCakez wrote:In post 199, Phoenix Wright wrote:But that's not what I was trying to do. I know that this is a game where you have to deeply analyze people's posts, but you've all been over analyzing everything I've said for a long time now. There's no hidden agenda, there's no deeper meaning: when I say something I mean exactly what I'm saying. So when I have my reason for unvoting him, I was being genuine. You're seriously trying to tell me that after a mislynch you wouldn't be suspicious of the people who lead that wagon? Maybe you're right and I just don't know how it works. I've only finished one game after all, and it wasn't on this site
Saying it's genuine doesn't make it genuine.Of course we are analyzing your posts a lot, we're suspicious of you.
And yeah you should be suspicious of people who lead a mislynch.
I know, but you're trying to find scum motivation in everything I say instead of looking for town motivation. And that last sentence shows that my reasoning for unvoting him wasn't that bad after all-
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In post 206, SirCakez wrote:If you are town, then he would be leading a mislynch on you. How does that correlate to unvoting him?
Because that would make him the most suspicious person on day 2. I already said this like 5 times-
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In post 205, clearance only wrote:Phoenix would it be too much trouble to get your thoughts on everyone so far?
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Davsto- It doesn't feel like he's putting a lot of effort into the game so far. Null
Aristophanes- I didn't even know this person was in the game, so that sets off a few red flags in my head. Why isn't he posting at all? Scum lean
cleavage only- I don't think your ideas are very well thought out. But the fact that you're acting so sure that I'm scum and pushing extremely hard for my lynch doesn't seem like somethings cum would do. If you were scum, you'd know that I'd flip town. So that means that you're probably town.
Xkfyu- I kind of agree with everything that he's said so far. Town lean
Cookie Bakers- hasn't said much yet. Null
SirCakez- So far his posts feel genuine, but at the same time he's just saying the same things that other people have already said. He's not really making his own points. Null
Dwlee99- Scum wouldn't have tried to diffuse the argument between me and cleavage because they'd want a mislynch no matter what. So he's probably town
beeboy- He just jumps in every now in then to make snarky remarks without actually trying to make a case. Scum lean
Nahdia-They're not trying to jump on wagons or anything, so they seem town enough for now
Mirhawk- hasn't posted much either. Null
Toogeloo- One of the few people actually taking a step back and looking at the game instead of following the crowd and jumping on the popular wagon. Feels like town
Radja- Has only made 2 posts so far and both of them were just him wheeling cleavage. Tagged kind of suspicious but according to the search he's also modding another game so maybe that's why he's been so inactive? Null for now-
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In post 211, SirCakez wrote:In post 209, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 206, SirCakez wrote:If you are town, then he would be leading a mislynch on you. How does that correlate to unvoting him?
Because that would make him the most suspicious person on day 2. I already said this like 5 times
So you're basically saying because they're making a hard push they can't be scum? Correct me if I'm wrong.
@cleavage - I'm having a hard time getting reads on people because the thread has been utterly dominated by cleavage vs Phoenix. I'm trying to get engaged but not enough people are posting.
Wouldn't scum just opportunistically jump on the wagon and make a few comments of agreement every now and then? They want a mislynch, but they don't want to be in the spotlight. Like you said, all the attention is focused on me and cleavage. I don't think scum would want that-
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In post 213, SirCakez wrote:In post 212, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 211, SirCakez wrote:In post 209, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 206, SirCakez wrote:If you are town, then he would be leading a mislynch on you. How does that correlate to unvoting him?
Because that would make him the most suspicious person on day 2. I already said this like 5 times
So you're basically saying because they're making a hard push they can't be scum? Correct me if I'm wrong.
@cleavage - I'm having a hard time getting reads on people because the thread has been utterly dominated by cleavage vs Phoenix. I'm trying to get engaged but not enough people are posting.
Wouldn't scum just opportunistically jump on the wagon and make a few comments of agreement every now and then? They want a mislynch, but they don't want to be in the spotlight. Like you said, all the attention is focused on me and cleavage. I don't think scum would want that
This is partially true, but scum will put themselves in the spotlight to get mislynches on occasion. A game I just finished, Open 623, had a prime example of this. We all just wrote off a deathtunneler as town and they ended being scum. So just because he's hard pushing doesn't clear them 100% of being scum.
I don't remember saying that he's definitely 100% not scum. I know that I've said that he's probably town-
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In post 219, Radja wrote:In post 127, Dwlee99 wrote:Cleave seems genuine, and pw I've already explained. It is a T v T.
okay, scratch my last post
You're literally just agreeing with whatever everyone else says. Not to mention your extended period of inactivity
VOTE: radja-
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In post 36, Radja wrote:In post 32, clearance only wrote:Thank you Radja. For being the single person to acknowledge the only serious vote cast thus far.
This feels like the beginning of a beautiful townblock.
-Sensei
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In post 225, Radja wrote:In post 222, Phoenix Wright wrote:
In post 36, Radja wrote:In post 32, clearance only wrote:Thank you Radja. For being the single person to acknowledge the only serious vote cast thus far.
This feels like the beginning of a beautiful townblock.
-Sensei
<3
Got any other lies to tell?
Are you drunk?
No. Cleavage said my RVS post looked disconnected and lame. Right after that you voted me and said I can dig this. Is that not you agreeing with him? You just said you didn't make a post where you agreed with someone and I pointed out that it's not true. Are you drunk?-
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In post 231, Radja wrote:What the hell are you talking about. I never said you were town.
I said "scratch that last question" because Dwlee had explained it by then.
I misread it. You said scratch that last post and I thought you were talking about the post 217. Sorry
@mirhawk I was waiting for more posts from them to see if they still seemed scummy or not. What are your reads?-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?k ... mit=Search
Beeboy is active on other topics, but not here. Very suspicious-
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I tried to be like you. Apparently it's okay for you to not explain why you think I'm scum so I thought I'd take a page out of your book.-
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In post 267, beeboy wrote:Feel free to keep trying but nothing I said is wrong lol.
All of it is wrong I wasn't tryin to discredit anyone and you completely ignored the part where I said that someone on my wagon is probably scum. You're also twisting around what I said about the lurkers. I know I'm town and it's obvious that the push against me has been the pivotal point of the game so far. So obviously the scum have been free to not post much and get away with it. I wasn't just saying "hurr durr lurking bad". I'm saying that you guys have been drawing attention away from people who are actually scum.-
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