Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[pisskop]

Usually roles that occupy similar niches are not of the same alignment, but I tend to think of that as meh for a theme game.

Titus should shoot and stip being such a tease.

[clearance only]

I agree.

[Xkfyu]

Explain please. The right CC means we'll almost certainly be shooting Ari. Which part conflicts?

He's claiming 1-shot Neighborizer as part of his JOAT. But I'm a Neighborizer and I don't buy there being two town Neighborizers. That's what I meant when I said my claim was confirmable earlier.
My role has other elements to it that I won't reveal yet.

Well next time, maybe you should lead with that instead of some bogus reasoning about the other two powers.

I was trying to avoid hard claiming <.<

Yeah, I get that, but invalid reasoning is invalid reasoning, and you can't expect anyone to follow you on it. The other two simply are not inherently scum roles. In fact, I would say the complete opposite is closer to the truth, and if it's a fake claim, then he did a pretty good job with it.

[Cookie Bakers]

Explain please. The right CC means we'll almost certainly be shooting Ari. Which part conflicts?

He's claiming 1-shot Neighborizer as part of his JOAT. But I'm a Neighborizer and I don't buy there being two town Neighborizers. That's what I meant when I said my claim was confirmable earlier.
My role has other elements to it that I won't reveal yet.

I was hoping for a roleblock specifically because we bypass role blockers. That strongly suggests scum have a roleblocker. I was trying to sit on this to draw a roleblocker CC specifically, hence why I focused on that part.

[Xkfyu]

Usually roles that occupy similar niches are not of the same alignment, but I tend to think of that as meh for a theme game.

Yeah, I could see that especially being true in a Role Madness game like this.

You did get THAT memo since replacing in, right? Not everyone did, it seems.

[3dicerolling]

Votecount 1.10

Pisskop (0) -
Aristophanes (2) - SirCakez, Phoenix Wright
cleavage only (0) -
Xkfyu (1) - Nahdia
Cookie Bakers (0) -
SirCakez (2) - dwlee99, Toogeloo
Dwlee99 (0) -
beeboy (1) - cleavage only
Nahdia (0) -
Phoenix Wright (1) - Radja
Mirhawk (0) -
Toogeloo (3) - Mirhawk, beeboy, cookie bakers
Radja (0) -

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Xkyfu, Pisskop

With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends (expired on 2016-03-15 19:08:59)

[pisskop]

I did not. I try not to read when I place in. I use my intuitions

[Xkfyu]

Ok well, just so you're clear, this IS a Role Madness game.

[SirCakez]

So uh why has the Aristo wagon dissipated then?

[pisskop]

Neat.

So Borderlands was not a role madness game because shit made more sense, and Diamond is unbreakable (with scum farside) was role madness?

[clearance only]

I was hoping for a roleblock specifically because we bypass role blockers. That strongly suggests scum have a roleblocker. I was trying to sit on this to draw a roleblocker CC specifically, hence why I focused on that part.

A town + scum roleblocker is yucky. I've seen it before but I don't know why you'd straight up assume that it's a thing.

Drifting towards you just shooting Ari again but I really don't know.

I also don't know if I see scumcakes CCing here no matter how daintily he went about it.

[SirCakez]

You should go ahead and shoot Ari Titus.

[clearance only]

And we should lynch beeboy.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Clevage, I wouldn't. I am assuming scum have a roleblocker, doctor, or some other variant because our night shot is a strongman. Ari is the only claimed roleblocker. Thus, even if Ari is town, we foreclosed a lot of scum fakeclaims.

I was hoping to draw a counterclaim from scum on roleblocker but I think everyone's posted and no one did.

I am going to verify things with Shiro but I think that is where we'll go.

[Xkfyu]

So yeah, I'm thinking that one of Cakez or Ari must be scum, and since I tend to believe CCs over original claims, I think I have to believe Cakez over Ari. As such, I'm fine with shooting Ari.

[Cookie Bakers]

Clevage, we're likely dead tonight is our concern. We want to shoot Toog and lynch Ari. If we go the other way, can you promise us hell or high water if we die Toog dies? No wifom justification. No chasing after shiny objects. No nothing. If there's a cop clear, Toog is a godfather. Like no excuses. Do not let Toog win this game as scum by having town rip each other apart ok?

[pisskop]

if you want to shoot toog why arent you shooting toog? I dont get it.

[Cookie Bakers]

Because that's imposing our unilateral will on the group...:/

[pisskop]

Thats real sweet, but it isnt the town's power.

[pisskop]

why is toog scum? Hes kind of been dumping on your slot from what Ive read, but nothing special stands out.

[Cookie Bakers]

Right now

Clevage Sircakes Pisskop Us all hard townread each other. Getting a cohesive group going can make scum winning impossible. Going to what we want and just what we want undermines the four of us working together.

[Xkfyu]

Our target is guaranteed to die if we shoot at night and I am presuming no day bulletproof.

So yup. That's it.

Going back to this for a second now that you've stated that your night shot is a strongman.

If your role does specifically state that your target is guaranteed to die at night, then doesn't that imply that they aren't necessarily guaranteed to die during the day?

The reason I ask is because I am now concerned about Toog being BP, and that's why he claimed VT and is trying to get you to shoot him.

[Cookie Bakers]

why is toog scum? Hes kind of been dumping on your slot from what Ive read, but nothing special stands out.

As a VT in a role madness, his job is to take bullets and lead town. He's been lurking and avoiding attention instead. He's not making any effort to sort people and is just whining about me being an asshole.

[Cookie Bakers]

Our target is guaranteed to die if we shoot at night and I am presuming no day bulletproof.

So yup. That's it.

Going back to this for a second now that you've stated that your night shot is a strongman.

If your role does specifically state that your target is guaranteed to die at night, then doesn't that imply that they aren't necessarily guaranteed to die during the day?

The reason I ask is because I am now concerned about Toog being BP, and that's why he claimed VT and is trying to get you to shoot him.

No. It doesn't say guaranteed but Strongman bypasses doctor rb and bp so...

It is possible Toog has that, so help us lynch Toog if we shoot Ari (A)

[SirCakez]

I'd lynch Toog if Ari is shot.