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lolIn post 304, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Creeps, filler is NAI. Please unvote.In post 288, Creeps20 wrote:
UNVOTE: EricIn post 277, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Mafiascum is life.
VOTE: Uzi
Useless posts. Constantly. I really haven't seen much content-
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I play the same way. Guilty until proven innocent prevents a scum who manages to become lock town from winning.In post 336, Aristophanes wrote:
Lack of trust is as bad as too much trust. Caution is required for proper play, but this goes a bit far man! Link, town has to work together and form trust networks to win! Trusting nobody is arguably antitown.In post 332, Creeps20 wrote:
Never do. Ever. I once doubted a proven jailor claim on TOS. I don't trust.In post 321, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Gemerald
(Yes, I do this just to bug you)
I dislike the immediate demand for a partner claim. That is not good play and benefits scum.
Creeps, why are you not buying the claim?
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ok full disclosure: i only skimmed
town {misa, luv}
slight town {twoface}
null {frank, hiraki, gamma, aristophanes, tvd, creeps}
slight scum {vedith}
scum {scumdearsaretasty, fitz}
sorry but io's page 1 posts are fucking awful and scumdearsaretasty's content has all been mediocre / hasnt changed my mind on it. fitz has been covered by twoface. vedith is null himself but i sr'd twiszted so its a push forward from that. hiraki is probably slightly more scum than the other nulls but potato potato hes active. creeps is closer to null but ive already sr'd him and led his mislynch once this week only for a JOAT flip, i dont intend to do it again. his play is pretty close to NAI. if you lynch him its policy because i doubt hes scum. misa/luv obv mason claims for NOW, but note i sr'd luv a bit before his claim so they arent inno yet. twoface makes good arguments against fitz + i like him defending eric whos town and it felt more genuine than hiraki.-
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his post was not screaming mafia, it was screaming newb lynchbait.In post 341, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:
Digging this out. Why did you think you needed to ask only a particular someone a question which answer is obvious?In post 29, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
Why do you feel the need to participate in RVS?In post 28, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nothing happened. I'm just participating in RVS.
I didnt see a good reason to vote him.
What was wrong about his analysis? Voting someone with a baseless accusation. Probably not a thing town will do.In post 125, Eric Rasputin wrote:
His activity in page 2 and 3 .... He is ubiquitous, not too active but active enough .. That is scummy behaviour ... His analysis seems off, his analysis is not backed with proof ...In post 124, TwiszTed wrote:
Don't be lazy. Gut is based on something. What is it?In post 123, Eric Rasputin wrote:Reading through the chat and based on my gut, I have a feeling its Uzi ... Although I have no evidence to support it ...
My next bet on Mafia would be Gamma and Twizted(you) .. Well, lets see how the game pans out ...
Im hosting a dethy on another forum and thats taking up most of my time ... Sorry if I was not active before
This post is screaming mafia. It's like trying to show he can claim if he needs to. And he says he has 7 years mafia experience and yet doesn't know when to claim. I bet it was an attempt to show himself as a claimable town.In post 150, Eric Rasputin wrote:Question: Can we role claim ?
Actually, TwoFace has been defending and backing Eric up. May we know the reason? and i saw no scum-intending posts of Misa whatsoever.In post 210, TwoFace wrote:
Not sure why you even would think that's the reason. I voted you cause I think your vote on Eric is garbage. Your reason for voting him is garbage and I disagree that him wanting to rush the day is a scumtell. Looks like going after an easy target which I feel is more likely to come from town. Some of Eric's posts aren't great but nothing looks like they have scummy intentions. Yours on the other hand do to me.In post 207, MisaTange wrote:why
if you're sort of angleshooting (bc im posting on a different game), this is really not the time
He had 1 or 2 such posts in the recent pages. And Why will you vote for a single fluff post? You yourself used to fluff a lot in SC Forums as town. You should know that town can fluff as well.In post 288, Creeps20 wrote:
UNVOTE: EricIn post 277, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Mafiascum is life.
VOTE: Uzi
Useless posts. Constantly. I really haven't seen much content
This is a straight push for a claim. Why pressure him more? for a claim?In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:I would rather vote this rn than remain on a stupid RVS vote I'm not pushing.
VOTE: LUV
An attempt to discredit the claim?In post 320, Creeps20 wrote:UNVOTE: Uzi
While I don't buy this claim I won't risk it. Not yet at least
VOTE: Eric
Back to this
I feel like Ari is town (Excluding claimed town). Cant say about others. And These are my top suspects:
Eric (For voting with a baseless accusation)
Creeps (For stated reasons)
Gamma (For pushing a claim)
TwoFace (There's no reason a town will try to defend someone D1 exept if they are scum and know he is town to get on the good side or defending a scum-bud and when the scum flips, Say "If was scum, Will i buddy a maf so early?" Maybe I'm overthinking abut it but I may be very right.)
to reply to this and a post later: OMGUS is not a scum tell, its just something some players will do and is overall NAI. I OMGUS when I'm town being scum read a fair bit because oh my god they do suck :^)In post 376, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:
Actually I asked for the reason and assumed the reasons you will have.In post 343, TwoFace wrote:
I'm confused. You quoted my reason yet asked me for my reason. Why?In post 341, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:Actually, TwoFace has been defending and backing Eric up. May we know the reason? and i saw no scum-intending posts of Misa whatsoever.
Have you ever seen Eric play? His posts are no where near the townie post. He says he has 7 year mafia experience but has he come up with any good thing to get him as town? You'll only know he is town if you are scum or you have played with him before. Noone defends someone unless he has some good posts spot on. Now, I'm thinking you are trying to get on a good side of Eric. You are scum either way. How are you so damn sure it will be a mislynch? Give me reasons how/why Eric is town.In post 344, TwoFace wrote:
so why rule out the possibility that I think Eric is town and I'm defending him cause that's what you do for town reads? You seem like an experienced player so leaving that out of your possible scenarios is odd.In post 341, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:TwoFace (There's no reason a town will try to defend someone D1 exept if they are scum and know he is town to get on the good side or defending a scum-bud and when the scum flips, Say "If was scum, Will i buddy a maf so early?" Maybe I'm overthinking abut it but I may be very right.)
Eric as I said earlier is an easy target. I fee like he's going to be a mislynch. I'm going to try and prevent mislynches if I can.
You'll be a mislynch if you wont defend any accusations on you. By saying "I am town not mafia" wont reduce any sus on you. If you really have 7 years maf experience, Defend properly and Contribute at least something.In post 345, Eric Rasputin wrote:You guys must like me lol. I am town and not mafia is all I have to say ... You guys asked me for my reason as to voting for Uzi and I told it and suddenly I'm the guilty one? Go learn to analyse and then play this game ... I will be a mislynch, I assure you ...
This is dumb? How was that dumb? I expected more from you, really.In post 347, TwoFace wrote:
this is dumb, i expected more from youIn post 346, havingfitz wrote:Eric....pretend you are scum. Would you expect that saying you are town is all it took to remove suspicions towards you?
How many gams have you played, TwoFace? Your OMGUS is pretty suspicious at this moment.In post 352, TwoFace wrote:
Early stat theory stuff is null since that was the conversation going on - to say otherwise is scum motivated imo unless you can explain how staying active in the conversation is bad which nobody can cause it's not.In post 349, havingfitz wrote:TwoFace: Very active(good). Early stat theory fluff (~bad).
Shades mason (bad). Misreps (bad) Ted and gets into tiff. Naked
Misa/mason vote (bad). Defensive of Eric (ffr). Says vote on Misa is
gut (Post 262) despite having just given
several reasons for voting her (bad).
Reiterates vote on Misa doesn't have a lot of merit.
General snarkiness. = Scum lean.
Shade mason? Where? - pretty sure I didn't so possible misrep here
I certainly didn't misrep ted. Misrep in your part
Naked votes aren't bad - you should know better than that
Defending a town read one who's most likely lynch bait - protown.
Vote on gut but gave reasons is somehow bad? No because gut is usually able to be explained by pointing to things. If you were a newb I could see you making this mistake but you aren't a newb
My vote on misa was good imo, reiterating it isn't bad
Snarkiness - this is non ai, especially since it's my personality
So fitz is probably scum. Too many non ai or non truths being twisted into appearing bad. No way an experienced town player comes to this conclusion.
VOTE: fitz
Because he voted you, He isnt town? Straight OMGUSing.In post 353, TwoFace wrote:
There's no way he's town. It's obvious Eric is town. vote fitz with meIn post 351, Hiraki wrote:havingfitz im v disappointed that you could give eric a scum lean
i thought you would agree with my mindset
And you might say i am defending Fitz right now but i always defend someone who is being OMGUS'ed. OMGUS is no good for town. It only ends up having two townies under the radar or a scum putting a town under the radar.
you go from suspecting someone and lynching another person immediately to trusting their townie read and them themselves with no transitioning post? really?In post 383, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:Actually Now i feel TwoFace and Eric both are town. I mis-interpreted few things, i guess.
My Current sus list:
Creeps
Gamma
Others are null for now.
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Creeps is one of those guys whos unproductive as both town and scum. he is as lynchbaity as a person could get. theres no point lynching him at this stage because his flip gives us almost nothing to go off of.-
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In post 10, Io wrote:I mean you have to take into account the reason for replacement.
Replacement for inactivity is very different from replacing out.
Theoretically the former is however many scum to town there are.In post 12, Io wrote:Of which is a rd of the player list that replaced out so yeah statistics show 1's probably scum.In post 19, Io wrote:
It also said it was often ignored.In post 18, MisaTange wrote:I just realized the link GE gave hasn't been updated in 6 years (and if there's an updated version, I don't see it)
It's hard to say (and I don't think we have a user in this game that's been playing since 2010), but I think it's safe to say that meta has changed since 2010.Especiallyin such an "it's your playstyle" type genre such as mafia.
in what world are these townie postsIn post 188, Io wrote:
Nah I'm not that stupid. Like someone said you could say that on any 4 players you pick.In post 100, TheseViolentDelights wrote:@IO: In your #6 and #10 are you being serious? Like do you plan on actually voting based on those statistics? Or do you have impressions of the game so far?-
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hey mathblade
you said yourself that compromises result in townie lynchces. WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME TO COMPROMISE ON A HIRAKI LYNCH??? the last game i played on here and first one ive finished (so i can discuss it!!) i compromised on two lynches, both were mislynches, and we still won due to godly vig but the problem remains. i think io is scum. i am confident in that read. join my wagon if youre so desperate for a lynch. SCUMDEERS is SCUM, DEER mathblade.-
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I'm on mobile so no beautiful wall post but this whole section of posts is bad. His interaction with Eric is very very awkward and negative, and Eric scum reading him is at least something since he's conftown to me and that's another townie opinion. He was obvious lynchbait and twiszted pounced on it.In post 139, TwiszTed wrote:
You never said why we're scum, btw.In post 129, TwiszTed wrote:
So Gamma is scum, and I'm scum bussing him on d1 for... what reason, exactly?In post 125, Eric Rasputin wrote:My next bet on Mafia would be Gamma and Twizted(you)-
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It's not a fake read, you're scum. Stop diverting attention.In post 871, Vedith wrote:
Will be interesting to see if Fritz changes he vote on you if you get more votes.In post 865, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay then, MathBlade seems determined to tunnel me.
VOTE: Gamma
Stop trying to coast the game with a fake read.In post 866, Joshz wrote:tunnel vedith instead!
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i have a very, very strong scum read on twiszted, and vedith hasnt exactly been a super strong townie. i encourage you to read through twiszted's content itt, its awful.In post 909, Nachomamma8 wrote:
And yet he's the lone vote on Vedith?In post 908, Gamma Emerald wrote:He wants an Io-slot lynch iirc-
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i already said id potentially vote hiraki out of the 3 current wagons. i would also most likely vote for fitz, scumdeers, and frank just for idling so much as attention is off of him, though i dont think id vote anyone else.In post 927, Nachomamma8 wrote:
We have under a day to reach majority and get a lynch. What makes you think that people are going to see the light on Vedith and suddenly vote him out if you're not going to put in the work to get it done? Who else would you vote as a compromise?In post 922, Joshz wrote:
i have a very, very strong scum read on twiszted, and vedith hasnt exactly been a super strong townie. i encourage you to read through twiszted's content itt, its awful.In post 909, Nachomamma8 wrote:
And yet he's the lone vote on Vedith?In post 908, Gamma Emerald wrote:He wants an Io-slot lynch iirc-
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tbh sheep me on vedith and watch the scum flip, thatll be somethingIn post 937, TwoFace wrote:Go duck off Mr Mason. You think that claim excuses you from putting in the work? No it doesn't. I've done my job. You want me to convince you on fitz?
Get to reading. All of my reasons are in there. - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8590645
And stop criticizing people for not doing shit until you've done something yourself.
im in a really really time consuming game on another site, and this game in particular out of the ones im in just isnt drawing my attention fsr. i just dont feel as involved, maybe its because this is the first time ive subbed and its a weird change.-
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he constantly goes for easy pushes. the first thing he does itg is go for tvd. when that doesnt pan out, he goes for eric, the ubernoob. he gets off eventually, but like, eric was obvtown to me, though clearly im biased knowing he was townie. there are only scum reasons to push a supernoob like that, as opposed to a noob of my level who is at least competent. more importantly, literally every post of his was contentless and empty. he did not start any GOOD discussons, or join in in any. #175 is also p bad, the only game ive completed on this site scum delegated to things such as 'x is scum and bonus points who tells me why', aka tricking people into subconsciously analyzing scummy traits of a person and ignoring their actual stance. twiszted was super scummy and nothing has changed my view on that.-
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almost all fitz did was argue with twoface lmfao theres not much to go off of
i really REALLY doubt that was bussing, lines like 'TF has yet to make a good argument. But I'm sure you would townread him for defending Eric. Kind of like OMGYA.' in fitz's reply to me tring twoface dont feel like distancing/bussing.
someone more experienced should read into hiraki's interactions with fitz because they felt like partner interactions as opposed to whiteknighting, and i very much believe hiraki could be a scum partner. im not experienced enough to tell if its likely fitz would so blatantly defend his partner so frequently though.
reading through creeps' content its actually all pretty awful despite me refusing to join his wagon yesterday. but, more importantly, his votes are nearly all on conftowns (myself when it was eric, mathblade, luv) and only one on someone else (deers). this combined with his lack of content is bleh. his iso does remind me gamma is a buzzkill tho.
gamma's interactions with fitz felt tvs, not much more to say
changed my mind a bit on vedith but i still scum read twiszted pretty hard so he is only slightly town overall as a slot
frank really feels like lurkerscum
aristophanes is null for me
lock town {Nacho, LUV}
strong town {twoface}
townier side/null {gamma, vedith}
scummier side {hiraki, creeps, frank, scumdeers}
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i forgot posting this but apparently i also was only willing to lynch those 3 yday lmaoIn post 936, Joshz wrote:
i already said id potentially vote hiraki out of the 3 current wagons. i would also most likely vote for fitz, scumdeers, and frank just for idling so much as attention is off of him, though i dont think id vote anyone else.In post 927, Nachomamma8 wrote:
We have under a day to reach majority and get a lynch. What makes you think that people are going to see the light on Vedith and suddenly vote him out if you're not going to put in the work to get it done? Who else would you vote as a compromise?In post 922, Joshz wrote:
i have a very, very strong scum read on twiszted, and vedith hasnt exactly been a super strong townie. i encourage you to read through twiszted's content itt, its awful.In post 909, Nachomamma8 wrote:
And yet he's the lone vote on Vedith?In post 908, Gamma Emerald wrote:He wants an Io-slot lynch iirc-
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id point out that yesterday i explicitly said i was only willing to lynch hiraki fitz, scumdeers, and frank, and refused to join either wagon. i did lynch one who flipped scum, and another is one of your strong scum reads (the one that isnt me). only one is even a town read for you. however, distancing/bussing/blah blah blah, i dont really care that you scum read me right now because it doesnt matter.
frank is a scum read that yet another person has. i typically defend idlers and lynchbait, as i did with creeps, but frank is actually playing lurker scum from the handbook. his #68 and even #539 scream scum partners, and in general scrolling through his iso its all just awful and pushing on townies (gamma/creeps from your perspective, eric from mine).
pedit: i agree twoface, hiraki/fitz/frank seems like a good solve to me. i want to lynch frank first out of the two though as he is less productive if he is townie.-
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it does somewhat make senseIn post 1210, TwoFace wrote:I'm starting to think gamma could be scum also. He was easy to hop off fitz onto creeps. Fitz put a lot of reasons out for gamma, more so for me but pushed me and only went to gamma much later when it was still obvious gamma wasn't getting lynched.
Fitz/gamma/hiraki. Does this make sense?
Spoiler: my reads list for those who forgot
i did put gamma in the townier pile. however, rereading through day one creeps has now moved up to the townier side based on his interactions with fitz especially and everyone. i do not agree scumdeers is necessarily town but theyre certainly the less scummy of the idlers. i need to go back and reread gamma's interactions and votes to say for sure.
rn the people im looking at are fitz hiraki and gamma (big shock). still dont think vedith/scumdeers/creeps are clear but poe wise theyre probably town. i am keeping my vote on frank though for now.-
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it was not my absolute, but if the solve was you/hiraki/fitz id rather lynch you first.In post 1208, FrankJaeger wrote:
Why so dramatic?In post 1205, Hiraki wrote:
this is your defense????????????????????? don't you dare drag me into this - I at least postIn post 1202, FrankJaeger wrote:What if I told you Frank and Hiraki arent the only ones allowed to be lynched?
Vote: Frank
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read through some of day 1, sdavt moves into my probably town pile.
hiraki/gamma/frank most likely contains both scum, id still lynch vedith but apparently nobody agrees with that so
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Ye I amIn post 1246, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You are in Eric's slot correct? Solid town.In post 1221, Joshz wrote:read through some of day 1, sdavt moves into my probably town pile.
hiraki/gamma/frank most likely contains both scum, id still lynch vedith but apparently nobody agrees with that so
hiraki/gamma/frank: what are your reads on me? do you think [the two not including yourself] are likely the two living scum? if not, whats your solve rn?
I don't believe that group is certain to contain both scum, but I DON'T have a solve, because I don't particularly care for miracle pills.
Fwiw if I was bg I would've been on nacho last night-
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yay for someone else scumreading vedith!In post 1286, FrankJaeger wrote:Im confident vedith is scum.
His 1239 is bad.
Everytime i reread it it gets worse.
"If anyone thinks TF isnt town they need to explain" sounds like scum trying to make town have conflict, without directly causing it.
The whole post looks fake, and the logic is going against it self.
btw - if frank had an experienced scum partner wouldnt they just give him a claim like backup bg? someone like hiraki *cough cough* knows the game well enough to know whats a reasonable claim from what I can tell
this is not meaning i think we lynch frank today, i agree with the above discussion. just something to mull over.-
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Joshz Mafia Scum
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