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VOTE: knighty knightIn post 43, Knighty Knight wrote:Odds on you being a scum for pushing him so hard so early in the game for no legitimate reason other then you "having a gut scumread" which is a 50/50 true or false (basically a good way to justify an illegitimate reason).
TL;DR you don't really a good reason to push alpaca so hard
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Well by the time this game got to page 4 there were enough talk about reads and suspicions going on that a completely isolated random vote just stood out to me. It stood out to me so I pursued that weird feeling.In post 80, PenguinPower wrote:Oooh, someone was at L-1 with an intent to hammer! We must be out of RVS!
Wait, what case or serious vote was presented?
Also I disagree re: L-1 that just because it's a joke wagon (started by someone with a legtit scumread on alpaca btw) to most doesn't mean that it shouldn't be taken seriously.-
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In post 33, Nero Cain wrote:I have a gut scumread on you and I wanted to see how you reacted under pressure.-
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So was nero just trolling when he said stuff likeIn post 104, PenguinPower wrote:
Lulz. Dude started the wagon and followed it with he hated the avatar. You're so serious.In post 42, Nero Cain wrote:odds on Iron/Lowell being an AlpacaAlpaca buddy?
I mean feel free to tell me if I'm crazy everyone but nero always seemed serious to me.In post 44, Nero Cain wrote:how do you know Alpaca will flip town?-
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Can't people be serious in RVS?
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now we're just going in circles. nero seemed serious to me.In post 119, PenguinPower wrote:
When serious votes start.In post 116, aronagrundy wrote:Then when does RVS stop?-
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I see why you think cmitc's unvote was scummy but I think it could have been shedding his RVS vote too, since his post before he unvoted looked like this:
where he wants to move into "more productive conversation."In post 78, cmitc1 wrote:
dontcha think that is a little unlikely?In post 73, ironstove wrote:Penguin nervously unvoting because he doesn't want to see his partner who is a mafia PR getting lynched.
PenguinPower? More like PenguinPanic
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so, since we are getting into the game, lets start picking up some more productive conversation, like
based on the start of the game, are you getting any town leans on anybody? right now, I have a town lean on iron due to that eh accusation.
That being said, this post actually popped out to me more once I scrolled up to reread the page. Discussing town reads doesn't produce as much conversation as discussing/pushing scumreads. Seems like an attempt at faking actual scumhunting.-
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Explain thisIn post 139, PenguinPower wrote:
Day chat is awesome, right? Tell him the joke I just told you.In post 131, Nero Cain wrote:lurking in his PT-
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No I was asking if you're scumreading neroIn post 143, PenguinPower wrote:Is this your first game?-
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why can't I make jokes now?
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How haven't I been causing conflict? Did you miss my argument with pp?In post 162, ironstove wrote:Like, me I can understand, people always want to kill me, but EHHHHHHHH. Also cmitc's 78 appears to be more weak/bad town play rather than fake scum hunting as you're putting it, and it seems like you're really reaching.
I personally don't like the tone arun has taken in this game, appears very 'fake' and 'artificial', trying to sound like a towny player when in actuality is scum, not really creating conflict with other players, avoiding pressure, and overall I don't like the reactions I'm getting.
Seems like a very distanced scum trying to coast cleanly through the game, so I am asking that town make this guy the lynch for D1.-
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When did I do this?In post 177, karnos wrote:
The argument you tried to blow off as a joke?In post 173, aronagrundy wrote:
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You have a scumread on someone who's only posted once!In post 184, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Ok so at this point I have a town lean on Lmk and Nero and a scum lean on Aron, Saru and Tracer-
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@karnosThe joke I was talking about was this post:
Which was just me snarking at pp (he voted me immediately after making that post, which is why I posted 151). I don't see how you're reading it as me passing off my entire argument with him as a joke.In post 148, aronagrundy wrote:about as obvious to me as nero's vote on alpaca was to you tbh-
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What was so crazy about what I said (that asking for townreads wasn't productive and could be fake scumhunting)? What value do you see in everyone discussing who they think is town?In post 223, cmitc1 wrote:
tracer has kinda been inactive, so its kinda null, maybe a slight scum if she dose not pick things up sooner or later.In post 222, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:What about Tracer or Aron?
Aron has been a bit fluffy lately, but she did accuse me with a kinda crazy.
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Well re: RVS considering that I was voting pp for placing an RVS vote in what I was seeing as a game past pure random voting, our discussion was bound to end up comparing our interpretations of what RVS, which involves RVS mechanics. Re: cmitc, once he started posting again (post 172), I was phoneposting quickly before work and during lunch and was only quickly responding to things.In post 193, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Pretty sure Iron is the biggest bandwagon aside from me who I am still deciding on and if I were trying to scumread all lurkers half of us haven't even posted more than 10 times, what I am trying to judge is content and Saru has produced zero and Tracer hasn't done much but say "I want to vote many people" with 0 explanation. Aron has already confused himself, he never further explores Cmit, after having talked about actually progressing the game and stimualting conversations he talked a lot about the mechanics of RVS and It looked like he was grasping at straws so very much in post 141. I'd say thats a lot for 8 pages
Also, alpaca, if you have a scumread on tracer why aren't you voting her? She only has 2 votes and honestly if you're taking iron's desire to lynch someone 100% seriously I have to question your judgment-
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I don't like how his reaction to my post was to just dismiss is at crazy (that's a great way to just not respond, which is why I responded to him in my last post) but his response to iron accusing of him of bad town play (to defend it as not bad) makes me think he's newbtown (hypocritical coming from me I know).-
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Btw, thinking about my current vote on pp: looking over his posts there's a lot of commentary and not a lot of scumhunting, though nero and I did put him on the defensive yesterday so a lot of his content is related to that. I'd like to hear more from him about current events plus a more complete explanation as to why he's voting me (goes for you too, knight). He's a bit of an enigma to me tbh.
I think iron is town. He seems to be driving the game's direction a great deal and attracting attention to himself from page like 2 in a way I wouldn't think scum would do. I think nero is town too for similar reasons (more driving the game than attracting attention like iron tho), moreso in the early game. I like lmk's posts too.
I agree with lowell that knight's vote on me seems opportunistic and I didn't really like his RVS presence--my vote on him in post 52 was actually serious because as far as I could tell he was trying to punish a legit attempt at scumhunting/moving the game out of RVS. alpaca's scumreads seemed really safe too but he elaborated on them at least and I don't have a problem with the rest of his content.
Everyone else hasn't posted much tbh. Tracer seems the worst off out of all of them for just popping in and talking about how much she'd love to vote someone...without actually voting anyone.-
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Scum isn't just looking for opportunities to lynch, they're looking for opportunities to appear town while not actually contributing to the town.In post 249, ironstove wrote:It's not opportunistic voting if it only puts you at 3-4 votes and it takes 7 votes to hammer.......... Please stop using that word, it's tilting me.
His posts imply that he's read the thread thoroughly, but he hasn't really followed through with any of his questions. Which makes it seem like he's staying on the sidelines on purpose.In post 253, PenguinPower wrote:And what do you think of karnos?
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(removed spoiler tags)In post 251, Knighty Knight wrote:
Evidence for Aronagrundy
Next up is Aronagrundy. Arona's first vote in RVS (7) was Cmitc. Normally this wouldn't mean shit and still probably doesn't, however, if they were scum than they could be trying to disociate from each other right off the bat. Again, this could literally just be a random vote, but it could also be more then that (Illuminati confirmed). Now onto more concrete evidence, cuz I'm all about that.
1. 52 Arona votes me because "We need to get out of rvs somehow" but the post he quoted was me questioning Nero who, again, if they were all scum would make getting out of rvs a cover up for lynch the person questioning my scum partner. Also since this was still in RVS he could get away with it no questions asked.
2. 79 He also seems to be very ancy to lynch people as soon as possible, also possibly switching his vote from me to avoid suspicion later on.
3. 101 Still not sure wtf "It stood out to me so I pursued that weird feeling" means or why you would do it, but it seems like kind of a weird thing to do. Anyways, he mentions that Nero's joke wagon on Alpaca was with legit reasoning and should be taken seriously (Which btw I still don't agree with Nero's reasoning but whatever, I'll get back to that later). Again if they were scum partners they would try to back up eachothers arguments, even if they might not be the most legit.
4. 103 I guess this is an alright reason, but there are better reasons to lead a lynch wagon on someone.
5. 109 Protecting Nero
6. 114 Trying to say Nero's reason was serious, still don't think so, but this could again be trying to protect Nero or himself to get some heat off of him.
7. 127 Playing dumb?
8. 130 Iron saw what I did and now Arona is trying to defend himself while Nero is backing Arona up.
9. 140 Trying to validate Cmitc dropping his vote and then trying to turn on him to (possibly) dissociate Himself from Cmitc.
10. 145 Penguin possible target?
11. 149 Penguin sees Arona as scum as well
12. 151 Trying to play it off as a joke
TLDR of Aronagrundy scum readSeems overly protective of Nero and Cmitc(possible scum partners) and is a little to obvious about it.
The bolded parts contradict each other. How am I being "overly protective" of cmitc if I'm also turning on him? Also, this post seems to be covering everything before you posted your reads list. Have your reads changed at all?-
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All done and these things stuck out to me:
@lowell: why don't you consider the possibility of knight being newbtown (or newb anything at all)? He's clearly labeled as Townie, and you take this into account when looking at me and cmitc. I'm getting more newbtown vibes from knight in his latest posts and I think he can easily read as confused town.
@pp: ok since you're v/la this is part question part statement since you might not be online to answer this over the next couple of days. Looking over the thread basically every time someone mentions that they suspect him, pp kind of freaks out? He's basically responds by discrediting the character of each person that suspects him by either passing them off as scum (me, lowell) and his tone toward tracer is very dismissive toward her in general. Just looking over his posts he seems so overly defensive and right now I think he's my strongest scumread.
Re: tracer, I don't like how she popped back up to just fight with pp a bit and just hint at actual reasons for her presumed scumread. Not sure how to interpret the replacement request but I think it's NAI.-
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the best example of what I'm talking about with pp is here:
He brings up the "IronStove read" without elaborating on it at all and immediately scumreads him, then votes him. Not taking into account his current V/LA, after RVS he's mostly just shown up whenever someone calls him scum. I know he's V/LA but it's where my gut's at right now.In post 309, PenguinPower wrote:
Wow...this is a complete misrepresentation of what happened. Except for the joking and winning personality. I definitely do/have that.In post 304, Lowell wrote:penguin. Reads similar to LmkGuy, but less so. He spent a lot of time early trying to make jokes and prove his winning personality. He's improved, slightly, perhaps, but still seems to post only when there's a light moment he can pounce on. I also don't like how he egged iron on to hammer alpaca early, only to more or less immediately say how the threat wasn't serious.
Coupled with your IronStove read...Heavens to Betsy if you aren't somewhat scummy.
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knight this is what lmk said about you (bolded):
Where in the bolded section does he describe you defending yourself as scummy?In post 381, LmkGuy wrote:
From the people that have been active during those pages, I can see why there are current scum reads on knight and Karnos. Both players have gotten extremely defensive whenever they have been pushed,
For knight, post 326 screams newb scum to me. Trying to say 'look at me! I'm doing stuff!'. After reading this post and going through his ISO, I just get a feeling of fakeness from his posts. Now I get that I am really not one to talk right now, but they try to seem like they are actively contributing, but there is just something off about his posts. I remember when I got my first game as scum and a lot of his posts are the same kinds of thoughts/posts that I made during that scum game. A lot of his reads contain words like 'maybe' or his opinion can be easily swayed either way, leaving options open for changing his scum/town reads as he needs.
Also, why karnos? You don't say a word about him before this post beyond a null read early in the game. If 90% of the arguing is bs then why are you siding with two of the people doing the arguing?
This post sticks out like a sore thumb to me compared to anything else I've seen before in the game. No real reason for voting karnos plus misrepresenting what lmk said.
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No it's just the last post lmk made. knight basically tossing out an OMGUS vote prompted me to go back and look at lmk's posts and 381 was the last one he made (and was the one that knight was responding to anyway). It was knight's post that made me change my vote.
I like the karnos wagon but I feel like knight's hop on the wagon is even worse. When he says he'll go after lmk tomorrow (this is all assuming a karnos lynch here) he's giving himself an excuse to post irrelevant content (if karnos flips town) or just jump on the lmk wagon (if karnos flips scum). If the town is 100% set on lynching karnos I'll help out but like I think knight is just coming off terrible here and I can't leave that alone.-
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That's another way to put it I guess. I'm talking about going so far in your own defense that you go out of your way to discredit the person arguing with you (pp did some of this too just to a lesser degree, which is why I voted him a few pages ago) by saying that their case is based on like some trauma from a game that happened in the past. That's where I got the "overly" part but I think we're just disagreeing on semantics here.In post 460, Thor665 wrote:
I'll actually agree that it isn't over defensive (or, rather, it is defensive - and it's impossible to be over defensive) but I do think it represents flail.In post 459, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you think he's being overly defensive. It looks to me like Thor/Saru are going after him pretty hard and he's responding.
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Good talk.In post 459, PenguinPower wrote:[
It was weak.In post 438, aronagrundy wrote:btw pp when you return I would love a response to my original vote on you
For real tho, what are your thoughts on me/lowell at the moment? Beyond your original posts where you voted me/him, you didn't really go much further in explaining.-
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Ok I'm back.
Still confused on saru's claim that thor was copying his logic when they were both arguing with karnos. The fact that saru hasn't really given a satisfactory answer is bad. He also seems to have backed away from this claim, saying when he votes thor (662) just that "his push on karnos is all kinds of bad, and then saying in 675 that he was "paranoid that (thor) was buddying me or taking advantage." Like what exactly is thor doing here, saru?
FA's claim is still dumb but so is lynching someone who says they're a PR.
Mal not doing anything is dumb too.
As of now I would be ok with lynching saru or mal.
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plz respond to the bolded saruIn post 710, aronagrundy wrote:Ok I'm back.
Still confused on saru's claim that thor was copying his logic when they were both arguing with karnos. The fact that saru hasn't really given a satisfactory answer is bad. He also seems to have backed away from this claim, saying when he votes thor (662) just that "his push on karnos is all kinds of bad, and then saying in 675 that he was "paranoid that (thor) was buddying me or taking advantage."Like what exactly is thor doing here, saru?
FA's claim is still dumb but so is lynching someone who says they're a PR.
Mal not doing anything is dumb too.
As of now I would be ok with lynching saru or mal.
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Ok first of all why you using tunneling as a reason for your scumread when you yourself said Grey did the same thing? Also my original bolded question was in reference to you saying that thor is using your logic. What logic? When? I mentioned before that you have been shying away from this claim.In post 811, Saru wrote: Nothing, that's the point. He's been about tunneling Karnos since he first replaced in. It's almost as bad as Grey who had his head up his ass about wanting to lynch me. Let me ask you this: what do you think about Thor's play with Karnos and what do you think about both of them in general?
I think karnos is town, mostly because I think you're scum. I don't think two scumbuddies go through an argument like you two did. While I don't like the whole deal with the hypocrisy about townreads, I don't like your move onto thor and I still don't like how you're continuing it.
As for thor, I'm leaning scum but not as strongly as you. I think he harped too much on karnos and I actually don't like the timing of his flip onto the mal wagon very much. I'm not sure how well you and him work together as a scumteam, but looking over his iso he's been very quiet as to how he reads you at the moment (I think in post 756 he implies you're null/town but who knows) and fairly quiet (almost dismissive actually) about your case on him so I don't think him trying to distance himself from you is out of the question.-
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Why lmk?
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Right, and my vote's on you because I want to see you get lynched. I'm not attacking you on your logic (minus the tunneling thing), I'm attacking you for not backing up any of your claims. That quote you provided doesn't help, because I wanted actual examples not a general claim. Thor was the one that brought up that karnos had already shared a townread despite saying he wasn't going to do so, not you iirc.
You could be trying to lynch town!thor, or trying to bus!thor, but I'm going to vote you for an empty case regardless. Like I said, I'm much more unsure about thor, but I'm going with my strongest scumread right now, which is you.-
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Uh this is kind of a large part of your case on him that you are refusing to address so I'm not going to ignore it. I'll devote a post to it.In post 855, Saru wrote:I actually don't get what you take an issue with. You seem to agree that the tunnel on Karnos is foolish("[Thor] harped too much on Karnos"), but give me a hard time because I give Thor a hard time about that same exact tunnel. Forget for a second about the whole "copying me" point I brought up. Strip that away, and what's your actual issue with my take on Thor's insistence to lynch Karnos? In your own view, it should be nothing, yes? If there is (besides the copying argument), then let me know, because you've lost me now.
Not saying it makes you scum more. Yes I probably would still lean scum because of the push on karnos and the quick switch to malI just don't see how my other argument about the buddying/copying would make me scum more than it could possibly make Thor scum for a tunnel, you, yourself don't like. Like your whole thought process confuses me. Even if I had never said Thor was copying me, would you agree he's scummy for harping on Karnos?-
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Ok saru here's my problem with your push on thor. I'm just going through your posts on it. In spoiler tags because walls are ugly
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The whole copying thing is just part of why I'm voting you. I don't get your logic but that's not good enough of a reason to vote you. It's the fact that you brought it up under pressure and refused to respond to people asking you to clarify. And then you only actually acted on your scumread of thor once a wagon on you came up. I'm seeing scum that got pushed into a corner and is trying to avoid any more pressure. (the fact that your wagon got replaced with one on a town lurker doesn't help either)-
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I'm aware but there were legitimate reasons for the mal wagon, he just happened to flip town. Scum would know that he was town, though, and would also know that a mal lynch would give the town almost zero information. I'll actually take back using the mal wagon as a reason against you because I think it was a good move for scum regardless of your alignment.