~laundry~ FIN

[Andrius]

Vote: Nachomamma8

TOGETHER AGAIN AT LAST

[Andrius]

Hi. I'm at work so I can't really talk, but:

I'm a miller.

Vote: Tammy

Hey!!!!

Explain.
Do you investigate as 'Mafia' or 'Evil Sock Empire' or what?

[Andrius]

I'm a miller.

VOTE: Desperado

Surely, that makes you smile Andrius.

Vote: Desperado

Oh shit you're right.
PINE, CREATURE, GET OVER HERE

[Andrius]

I will not.
Kill them millers with fire.

NEVER FORGET

[Andrius]

Also,

Public Service Announcement: I have the Hated modifier. It takes one less vote to lynch me, except in MYLO or LYLO

Dude, its the avatar isn't it?

[Andrius]

I will not be participating in that poor excuse for a "win".
The only TRUE VICTORY is found when the TOWN stands victorious.

[Andrius]

This desperado wagon is built on bands.
Wristbands.

You shall be henceforth called the wristband gang

No it is built on SUFFERING and TRIUMPH OVER VAMPIRES.

[SlySly, Pine, Andrius] are the Vampire Hunters.
I am open to names for this triumvirate.

[Andrius]

Also, addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before. Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me.

Lynch this with fire.

Nah. Par for the course as far as Pine's concerned.
Pine's town Sly's town man this game's shaping up to be great.

Now all we need is Toogeloo Boogeloo to get in here and we get to have a real party.

[Andrius]

SAD are you a sock?
I just got a feeling you're a sock.

[Andrius]

After reading closely I think that VOTE: Fire is the way to go. I identify as a cool stream of tap water and fire, assassins, and dragons are all my natural enemies, therefore for me to work at maximum capacity they must be removed. That is all.

...what

I got a league game to play so don't post 20 pages when I get back otherwise I'll...

idk, something devious, just don't.

My man I finished 2 league games how long does it take you to finish one.

a league game means 3 league games xd

This is true.
I'm fighting the urge to re-download the game and start playing again.

[Andrius]

Maria can I just defer to you for a read on FB?
I think my heart is too close to actually read him with a critical eye.

[Andrius]

Man the problem with inviting your friends to the game means that you might have to lynch them.
All y'all better be town.

[Andrius]

I asked three people to play this game.
None of them are you or Pine.

[Andrius]

I asked three people to play this game.
None of them are you or Pine.

Your words hurt and I hope you rolled sock so I can lynch you

You didn't need inviting - you were already here!

[Andrius]

What are N0 peeks?

Like even if it a joke are peeks supposed to just yield town or?

Its entirely bull.
Ignore it and move on.

[Andrius]

He's null he shows himself later on in the game just wait a little pal

Right, that makes sense. Luckily I have time.

*tackle hug*

I'm glad you showed up.

[Andrius]

Desperado (3): SlySly, Andrius, Pine

This wagon is so beautiful.
Its like we walked right out of Strahd's castle right onto another battle.

SOUND THE CHARGE

[Andrius]

ITS HAPPENING

[Andrius]

I am having a really great time right now.

Just you wait. This hasn't neared Curse of Strahd level yet.

[Andrius]

Notice Dunnstral in the corner?

ahahahahaha

No I didn't!
Oh man this game is going to be the best.
No false pretenses of TRYHARDING.
Just pure WIN and FUN and maybe some SOAP OPERA later.

[Andrius]

Vague comments about his role after pressure from the miller claim.
OKAY THEN

[Andrius]

SAD is scum.
Desp is scum.
THE STRAHD KILLERS are all town.
Solid start.

[Andrius]

Maria is town.
Fire is town.
Fro99er is town.
Creature is town.

Would like to see more Gerry and Aero.

[Andrius]

SAD is scum.

I love it.

Your approach/tone is what strikes me.

Aero is town btw.

For what?

My super secret read is Tammy lean scum.

Same.
She was here for pages 1-2 and is gone.
wut

[Andrius]

Do one of you have a fucking modifier that makes you say the word moist I wouldn't be shocked at this point
I'm gonna stomp no your throat and watch as you choke on your own blood watching the life drain from your eyes if you keep using that word
S-so just be careful! *giggle*

I enjoy seeing the fire in your eyes.

I just want people to hug me ;~:

Vague comments about his role after pressure from the miller claim.
OKAY THEN

Ya. The other part of my role is irrelevant once I outed that I was a miller, which is why it's more of a joke than anything else

Sigh why do you make life difficult

Can you say your joke part.

He's playing the tee hee game and its getting old.

[Andrius]

Also Hinamizawa is town from Higurashi (When they cry) anime where the people in it alternate between sane and crazy

I only ever saw Umineko.

I can always count on Andy to give me a hug and like the darker side of me ^_^

Hey, this isn't a buffet style 'oh I want quiet docile just wants hugs maria' but not 'the fire is in her eyes and she will devour those who oppose her'.

Like how camn must learn to love all sides of Pine, not just the fun-loving cleric who's got your back but also the quiet conniving Pine.

[Andrius]

Link me to a game where a miller claimed and then later drew a night kill

Challenge accepted.

[Andrius]

Link me to a game where a miller claimed and then later drew a night kill

Challenge accepted.

Choose Your Side: A Comedy of Whims.

I was a Miller Vigilante.
Scum shot me N6. I lived because SSBF protected me.

I also betrayed the town and accepted a Cult Invitation but that's not what you're asking for.


pedit: Yessssss Star Guardian Lux > Elementalist Lux

[Andrius]

Spoiler: Not Game Related

Also Hinamizawa is town from Higurashi (When they cry) anime where the people in it alternate between sane and crazy

I only ever saw Umineko.

You'd def like Higurashi then, season 2 wasn't that great imo (even though ppl rate it higher) because it was pulling the friendship card and stuff and thats boring for me but I really enjoyed season 1 for the psychological/horror aspects.

I disliked the later arcs, when it departed from the WHO KILLED THEM and turned into more magic and distractions. Which, I get was the point because Battler does not want to acknowledge that one of his family members killed everyone.
Oh well.

[Andrius]

Toogeloo Boogeloo is Towneloo.
gerry might be scum (!).
Nacho I'm just happy to be here with you but I'mnot going to be content to see you across the room the entire game.

SAD is scum.

I love it.

Your approach/tone is what strikes me.

Aero is town btw.

For what?

My super secret read is Tammy lean scum.

Same.
She was here for pages 1-2 and is gone.
wut

Pretty sure I said I was about to fall asleep.

And you are wrong BUT it does make me a bit happier that you're not straight out the gate buddying me moistly although that does feel weird that you didn't even say hi and now I wonder if you'r overcorrecting

SAD you're wrong too but can't tell if you're actually joking.

Oh.
I didn't mean to imply you were scum.
I just realize that reads badly.
When I said "same" I meant in reference to the above "For what"?
So it should read:

For what?
She was here for 1-2 pages and is gone.
wut

Tammy you know I would abscond with you to ice skate any night. I'm town this game and am super excited that everyone I asked to play is here AND got a load of surprise-players too which is great. Unfortunately I'm not a Neighborizer so someone else will have to bring us together.

Oh Maria is doing that stuttering thing which gives her posts a weird affect and I'm not sure how to read that, but it's not very moist.

I mean, I like it. Not as much as the fire but I like it.

Okay Andrius - I am getting ready to go to work. So when I suddenly stop posting, it's because I've gone to work.

You don't need to baby me. I know you went to bed. I didn't mean to be like SHES NOT HERE SHES SCUM it was a SHES NOT HERE.
Hold your horses.

Something about your tone is pinging my gut and I distrust it.
I hope you come back

when the gulls cry

and we can have tea and ice skate and have another wonderful Pathfinder-type game if you're not a sock.

you're good with me staying stfu though? *noted: andrius wants me to lurk*

No, I can't recall having said your name thus far this game.
I would like to see you chatty even if you're tunneling on town the entire game.
Thanks for the misrep. Why misrep me like this?
No, seriously. Answer the question.
Because I'm very happy with my Desperado wagon with the bestest bros but I'm not letting you do this shit again because no one's going to take you seriously and I want you on my side. I want to be able to say TEAM STRAHD and the four of us rush around and carry the game on our backs.
So I want you with us but if you're just going to contrive shit then clearly you have an agenda and I dont know what that is.

This isn't some IGNORE THE GIRL AND MAKE HER WANT YOU its just you can be frustrating and I've been hunting for scum and talking to the people who bring me joy.

Desperado (4): SlySly, Andrius, Pine, drealmerz7

See, this is beautiful.
I want us to be the SUPERSQUAD STRAHD BLOC so let's clear the air if you have any REAL problems with us, drealmerz.

and this entire site needs to get the fuck off of miller's claiming out of the gate

it's fucking dumb and boring

You're voting him though?
And we just lynched Miller-Scum last game so I'm liking this wagon.

[Andrius]

I used to play League.
I don't anymore since the people I played with either moved on or played to win and I play for fun.

[Andrius]

GLORIOUS ERRANTPARABOLEANS
dreaemrz
Pine
MariaR
FB
SlySly
Fro99er
Toog - awaiting more reads

???
Zack
Nosferatu
Aero
Creature
Nacho

SOCKS
SAD
Desperado
Tammy
gerry

[Andrius]

Lol league and fun in the same sentence.

I know it might be hard for some high-and-mightly DIAMOND FOUR or whatever to believe but yes, people do play just for fun.

Yeah Andrius is scum prob.

lolnope get out of MY laundry basket scum

He called creature town when creature only had 1 post and now he's "???" okay bud.

Yes, I did.
But I need more to work with.
Like, I could call Nacho town for NOT CARING but he has no reads and no votes and I'm not going to confbias myself into a Nacho townread.
Unlike other people where I could get emotionally compromised Nacho and I can read each other VERY well and thus I need to stay alert and wait for him.


I can't immediately recall this so I'll have to go digging. Hang on, drealmerz.

[Andrius]

Sorry Andy, Desperado isn't interesting anymore.

VOTE: SAD

New Strahd wagon.

PEdit: He might be, but right now he's the Baker Paladin, and I cleave to my man

"HE MIGHT BE"
PINE WHAT IS THIS CRAP

[Andrius]

Holy Tammy's posts feel so so so off.

RIGHT?

[Andrius]

Sorry Andy, Desperado isn't interesting anymore.

VOTE: SAD

New Strahd wagon.

PEdit: He might be, but right now he's the Baker Paladin, and I cleave to my man

"HE MIGHT BE"
PINE WHAT IS THIS CRAP

...I said "might"

If you want to talk to me then say the word. I'm not here to pretend everything's fine and dandy clearly it ISNT because the LAUNDRY ISNT DONE.

Vote: SAD

ALL ABOARD STRAHDIANS

[Andrius]

'wut' being more 'What please explain."


Also, in full disclosure the last game I was in with Nacho was not, in fact, XENOGEARS.
It was Vi's XENOLOGUE or whatever. In which I was scum with Cabd and ffery.

[Andrius]

UNVOTE: desperado
VOTE: Sir Arthur Dayne

Hello dreamlz!

-------

Desperado, I've got my eye on you Panama Red miller!

*image snipped*

UNVOTE: Desperado
VOTE: SAD

I love this team.
TEAM STRAHD ALL THE WAY

Andrius - I'm not sure why me being happy translates to pinging your gut, but *sadface*. I was considering joining this game for a while because of the players here and then when I asked Nacho about it and he said he'd sign up that was the push I needed to join. I'm happy as hell to play with a bunch of people here and as a bonus I'm town. Well that just makes me extra happy. I'm also feeling quite silly trying to incorporate the word moist into my posts, which amuses me to no end.

So, no there's nothing to worry about with me here. I'm just in a good mood. Also we can't go skating until next week because I re-injured my ankle slipping on some ice at the airport, which is why I was posting this morning and not skating .

No, its not a you being happy is me pinging.
Something pinged though and it had me worried.

I think people are reading far too much into this modifier talk.

gonna be honest, guys. i have no clue who mafia is. someone give me a good case and i'll sheep the vote

This is probably scum.
How about town reads?
Any reads?

Tammy feels mehSad is townthere are my reads

Do you have any read on the other members of TEAM STRAHD?
I value your opinion.

Frogger town.
drealmerz town.

A Serial Killer is entirely possible, though.

is this you JUST stating the obvious? or is there something more here you're up for sharing?

You're being overly nitpicky again.

VOTE: drealmerz7


rule 3: anyone who asks the mod if scum has daychat is scum

and they have daychat

No try again.
I would appreciate a list of reads please.

Plus who can say no to Zach~

Scum Reads:Pine

Toogeloo.
What.
Why.

So were mastin's post everyone was just giving her shit but I kinda enjoyed her walls in Defcon :/

Don't even compare the two.

I'd vote SAD just for saying he has like 7 TRs after 10 troll pages and maybe only 3 legit content pages. but i'll wait

What about me?

I'm sure I listed at least 6 TRs in the same game.

LEAVING OFF AT TOP OF PAGE 21

Going to bed my eyes are closing.

[Andrius]

GLORIOUS ERRANTPARABOLEANS
dreaemrz
Pine
MariaR
FB
SlySly
Fro99er
Toog - awaiting more reads

???
Zack
Nosferatu
Aero
Creature

SOCKS
SAD
Desperado
Tammy
Gerry
nacho*

[Andrius]

Yeah that's 16 I can math.
That's everyone.

[Andrius]

Nacho, brother, I'm tired and so this will be short.

Look, I know its been a long time and we haven't talked and that's half my fault. I don't know how busy you are in other games but I'd love to see you here. You don't even have to talk to me just do your town thing and I'll just smile fondly remembering the good old days and knowing that, while they can never be again, you're happy and that's enough for me.

And I know the game just started but you're pinging me wrong and I'd like to not have to lynch you this game.

-AKW

[Andrius]

I will be V/LA Saturday Evening through Sunday.

I'm sure you'll all be so busy that you won't even notice me being gone but in case someone asks how I have SEVEN town reads in a 29-page game and they're wondering where I am that's where.

[Andrius]

Changed my mind. Through page 23 and [Frogger, Tammy, Nacho] all better.

[Andrius]

I think we have a SK in that mix, FB

could be fro99y

How did you arrive at these conclusions?

[Andrius]

I got 30m.
PARTY STARTS NOW

(EP you better love where this goes)

[Andrius]

Changed my mind. Through page 23 and [Frogger, Tammy, Nacho] all better.

That would move Nacho and Tammy up out of your scum reads, or no?

Not really no.

[Andrius]

Andrius your reads feel fluffy and like you're shoehorning them in to have them rather than letting them evolve naturally. Why aren't you pushing your scum reads?

Because it was 1am and I was falling asleep at the computer after a few hours of gaming with HIS MABLINESS LORD D3X.

[Andrius]

NOW FOR THE REAL DEAL

LADIES AND GENTLETOWELS

THIS IS I, LORD ERRANTPARABOLA

WELCOME TO MY LAUNDROMAT

No, this isn't bullshit. This is straight-up Admiral Andrius of this game.

I am actually Errantparabola, not the mod, but the character.
SO YOU ALL ARE MY LAUNDRY
Now that being said let's move along shall we?

GLORIOUS ERRANTPARABOLEANS
dreaemrz - Drealmerz is as drealmerz does. He'll scumread me at some point for a difference in playstyle but there's little that can be done save be masons with him.
Pine - I mean you punch me in the heart when you say I maybe scum. But I think you're town. Strong early game, gives no shits.
MariaR - We're always waiting for the next season. The producers don't want any big moves this early. Also, you remind me of AGM a bit with the (apparently) you have a preference for MAFIA and there's less engagement here. But hey, we're talking atnd its D1 so maybe we'll stick it to the producers this one eh?
SlySly - Town.
Fro99er - Town because the big three are hating on him and he doesn't give a shit. Honey badget don't care.
Toog - Wow look he's doing things. And he's joining the gif brigade. Town.
SAD - Town for reactions to wagon and potential lynching at L-1.

???
FB - This'll likely be a long-term read. Because I've seen you as scum (DEFCON), and I'm actually town this game, I'm going to actually have to pay attention to what you're doing this game. Which, hopefully, you just join the GIF BRIGADE and we don't hav to ever doubt your heart.
Zack - mfw doing little of consequence. FB townreads him. idgi
Aero - Literally haven't seen anything he's done of consequence. Will have to look individually.
Creature - Not playing to his normal. Will take time to parse out the dreck. Vigilo. Confido.
Tammy - Rising. At this point I'd target you if I were a Weak role just to have this out of the way.

SOCKS
Desperado - Like, you're here. Claim aside, you're still here. I don't have words but the gut says you're here. The brain says no. But we all know how I play.
Gerry - No, you're doing little things making little waves and are generally just herp derping through the game. SAD has too many townreads? I have more. Come at me, scum.
nacho - Nacholove I could write you an essay. All I want is for you to be here and do the reads and either lead or be part of the TOWNBLOC that you know will happen because you and I are here and this is how we roll. I want to see you interact with people and be human but I'm not getting the Nacholove vibes. And you know I can read you correctly. (And yes, I realize that the most recent game we've played was WEREWOLVES with PINE. I forgot about that one.)
Nosferatu - Please show up and play the game.

[Andrius]

Why do you feel better about Fro99er, but he was already a town read?

So let's say you're married.
I think you are.
You love your spouse?
Then they do something unexpected and you love them more.

I townread Fro99er.
He did things.
I townread him more.

[Andrius]

Do you really have V/LA status or are you using it as excuse to be away from the topic and let other issues fester?
What makes you confident about your early town bloc of players that were all on SAD?
What are your current impressions of SAD after the last page or so?
Did you kill Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman?
Do you think Socks are actually Mafia?
Are you a Moist Towelette?
You have 30 minutes, do you plan to do anything with it?

I will actually be V/LA.

Spoiler: V/LA REAL LIFE YO IGNORE THIS IF YOU DONT CARE

I will be staffing a youth group retreat from evening Saturday through Sunday morning. I will likely not sleep at all and will likely crash or, at least, have no mental capacity for this game whne I return on Sunday.

[Andrius]

Because they're Sly and Pine.
SAD is town. Reaction to his wagon while I was away yesterday was town.
No. Don't know who the latter is.
I have no information to confirm or deny this, despite being GLORIOUS ERRANTPARABOLA LORD OF THE SETUP AND LAUNDROMAT.
No I am ERRANTPARABOLA.
Yes.
I'm here. On Free 30m WiFi in Panera Bread, Spokane Valley.

[Andrius]

NOW BACK TO THE POINT.

WHEN I, LORD ERRANTPARABOLA OF THE LAUNDROMAT, LOOKED IN MY DRYER I SAW SOCKS.



It is time to lynch the mafia.

I, Errantparabola of The Icy Cold Laundromat, do decree this be so.

Vote: Nosferatu

[Andrius]

You know I am Errantparabola for srs because the mod-posted picture of the game and mine show that we both use TIDE.

[Andrius]

I know asking Nacho to be here and converse is like asking for a miracle but hey, I will try anyway.
Would love to see reads from all of my ??? reads and Scumreads.

[Andrius]

Andrius don't you think I am behaving just like defcon?

Don't you do this.
I thought you literally claiming scum that game was ridiculous.
I get the feeling I might have to suppress my heart this game and I really don't need this crap from you too.

[Andrius]

Andrius don't you think I am behaving just like defcon?

Don't you do this.
I thought you literally claiming scum that game was ridiculous.
I get the feeling I might have to suppress my heart this game and I really don't need this crap from you too.

It's not ridiculous from me, I do that stuff all time.

Doesn't make it right or beneficial to the town.
Assuming you have a town win condition.

[Andrius]

Tammy I don't want to sit here and run through your ISO and post my thoughts to everything.

But your arrival and series of posting was questionable.
Yes, you say you're happy. Ok, I can buy that.
Your first five posts are all HI HELLO SO MANY PEOPLE I LIKE HI ARTHUR
And lots of moist.

Spoiler: the moist bullshit

Which is, frankly, a stupid thing to put into role pms but whatever it doesn't add anything to the game and basically encourages spam/shit/empty posting as EP realized because he TOLD US NOT TO SPAM POST THE WORDS.

But whatever I can be a killjoy and an ass and am blunt to boot so hey whatever.

Its like, I'm not here to play the MOIST game.

I can't recall ever seeing you as scum.
But apparently you dislike it as much as I did.
So it makes sense for you to be very OH HI EVERYONE LETS INTERACT WITH PEOPLE before they suspect me of not doing that because that's what you do as town.
And the moist crap only serves to inflate the post count and you've definitely been competing for that award so it doesn't help me out any.

[Andrius]

My PERCEPTION of your posting is as damaging as the reality.

Similarly, this could be NACHO straight-facing-100%-mask thing where he's no longer fun or emotional but still town.
And I wouldn't know because I haven't really seen him in years.
It just SEEMS very distanced from his heart.

[Andrius]

That is the scummiest retort you could have made Andrius. Really below your caliber as a player.

Disappointing.

Should I be mad? Are you trying to provoke me? What is the point of this. Because I feel like you're being unnecessarily pissy about this whole thing.

[Andrius]

I'll point out why when I get home for those playing along at home but really Andrius that's below you.

Like seriously.
What are you trying to accomplish?

Look, I'm sorry for being an ass. I'm not sure exactly what I did that ruffled your bonnet but I'm willing to sit down and talk this out with you. I don't want this to be a YOU AND I WALK AWAY FROM THIS so if you want to sit down and talk about our feelings then I'm available.

But I don't get your aggression here and it just makes me wonder why.

[Andrius]

Andrius the only player you have an actual reason for scumreading is gerry. Why aren't you voting him?

Because I'm voting scum who isn't playing the game while I'm trying to get scum who are playing the game do post and expose their heart so I can understand them.

[Andrius]

Is it because Now has done jack all, because that's why I originally voted him?

I mean I don't have high expectations for Nos, but yeah, his not doing things is bad.
Also Creature but w/e I've seen him to next-to-nothing before. Attempting to be charitable here.

I don't believe that's your perception Andrius.

Well then we're at an impasse.
Look, I understand where you're coming from. You're saying you were happy. Great. I'm not arguing that.

My perception was something else. I'm not going to claim SAD and I are on the same page but he also thought you were off at one point in time.

I know you're better that the bs your posting right now.

Uhhhhh what.
What, the reads list early on?
I usually have reads lists. I do it all the time.
Are my reads atrocious? On occasion. I successfully found zero scum in Curse of the Werewolves and p. much only found town the entire game.
I don't claim to be good at this game but you can't say I'm not transparent.

I still think you're over correcting. And just because you were able to knock me off tilt last time I suspected you when you were scum by playing this stupid game you're playing now, it won't work this time.

You know I can't respond to this right now.

There are no games here. These are my reads and if you just say "ok great they're terrible" that's fine.
But I'm not convinced that's the case.

Thought that was interesting. Why is dreal the strongest townread Andy? Zach would certainly seem to disagree.

The lists aren't stratified other than by category.
If they are, I'll make it clear that's the case.

The only thing I like is that people are finally realizing what I pointed out last night that nosferstu is being useless. She's scummy, but frogger asked for a minute and I'm giving that.

Thanks. I'm not sure on Nos yet but I know a town Nos when I see one...usually as the game progresses. I'm not going to say what it is, because I don't want to influence that behavior coming out or not.

This doesn't help me. At all.
I want him dead and the vague IN THE FUTURE stuff won't fly forever.

Vote: Andrius

What bitter moisture is the taste of betrayal, Andrius. We could have had it all, but the only love you have for me is a dagger in the back.

I don't know, man.
I could write for a long time about things that probably don't matter to people here/matter anymore but that'd be a waste of my time.

This isn't some form of betrayal.
Yes, perhaps I was foolish to think I could just pick things up where I left off with people after being gone for years and more time wearing a black tie than I wanted to.
But if I were to speak honestly from the heart we'd be so far off-track with this game.

So no.
I'll mortify the heart and do what I can for you all.
I'll stay here, as long as you let me.

Tammy if I offended you then ask me to leave and I'll be gone.

Why do you feel better about Fro99er, but he was already a town read?

So let's say you're married.
I think you are.
You love your spouse?
Then they do something unexpected and you love them more.

I townread Fro99er.
He did things.
I townread him more.

Changed my mind. Through page 23 and [Frogger, Tammy, Nacho] all better.

"Hi honey I'm home. And I changed my mind! I love you."

Your wife would slap you and think you didn't love her before.

What you said indicates you had a scumread on him before. Which is why your whole readlist reeks of fakeness. You also liked my reaction to my L-1? That happened before you posted your reads list and you still had me as scum there.

Clearly I need to write better.
"I changed my mind" implied I changed my mind from going to bed right now and decided to read a little bit more. Not I changed my mind on my read.

dreaemrz - Drealmerz is as drealmerz does. He'll scumread me at some point for a difference in playstyle but there's little that can be done save be masons with him.
Pine - I mean you punch me in the heart when you say I maybe scum. But I think you're town. Strong early game, gives no shits.
MariaR - We're always waiting for the next season. The producers don't want any big moves this early. Also, you remind me of AGM a bit with the (apparently) you have a preference for MAFIA and there's less engagement here. But hey, we're talking atnd its D1 so maybe we'll stick it to the producers this one eh?
SlySly - Town.
Fro99er - Town because the big three are hating on him and he doesn't give a shit. Honey badget don't care.
Toog - Wow look he's doing things. And he's joining the gif brigade. Town.
SAD - Town for reactions to wagon and potential lynching at L-1.

All of your town reads are poetry; they aren't reads.

Drealmerz is drealmerz but look at us, we are scum together!

Pine is town because he doesn't care. Frogger is town because he doesn't care. Maria prefers scum and is less engaged and thus town. Sly is town because Sly is a friend.

The ADMIRAL ANDRIUS persona is not just amusing pictures; there's supposed to be an actual drive to solve the game and holy shit is it hilariously absent; I'm just sad that Tammy made it here before I did.

See this is just opinions.
I have my reads, which are my opinions.
You might think I'm bullshitting but that doesn't change what I think.

Tammy might be all happy to walk into the game but I was like whoa hang on there's something off here.
Doesn't mean she's not happy.

Like, you can call my reads wrong. That's ok.
But don't sit here and undermine everything I'm doing.

Pine is town because he doesn't care. Frogger is town because he doesn't care. Maria prefers scum and is less engaged and thus town. Sly is town because Sly is a friend.

Look I'm not expecting you to be all GIVE THIS MAN PROFESSOR MAFIA.
I play in my own mixture of reads with a few specific tells I've picked up from being here long enough.

I don't know how to engage with you here because you're shutting down this entire conversation with NO ITS ALL BULLSHIT YOUR READS ARE POETRY.

Do you disagree with my reads? Or is it how I am presenting them? Do you think Pine is scum? Do you think Fro99er is scum? Do you think Maria is scum? Do you think Sly is scum?
Or are you just taking issue with my tone or presentation or something?

Because just going LOL POETRY is bull.

Also if we're wagoning people for lurking and/or not contributing to the game I feel creature is better at least there are people who can vouch for Nos for being like this everything I have ever read about and or seen of creature he's an extremely engaged player.

Trust me I an noticing Creature.
I have some experience with him.

nacho - Nacholove I could write you an essay. All I want is for you to be here and do the reads and either lead or be part of the TOWNBLOC that you know will happen because you and I are here and this is how we roll. I want to see you interact with people and be human but I'm not getting the Nacholove vibes. And you know I can read you correctly. (And yes, I realize that the most recent game we've played was WEREWOLVES with PINE. I forgot about that one.)

Andylove what the hell is this?
"You aren't being human and you know I can read you, by the way we haven't played together in three years"???

What part of my opening said "not human" to you? Why do you talk about being confident in reading me now when you weren't confident in reading me when we were actually playing together?

I know better than to assume people don't change after years.
I would be lying if I said I hadn't.

Its like, I pretend that I can just pick up relationships after awhile with no change because certain people don't care about what happens in the rainy days, so to speak.
My words to you are an odd mixture of HI LETS PICK THIS UP AGAIN and OK WELL MAYBE YOU DONT or well maybe we just never had a strong relationship to begin with.
I would say more but the best example of this is somewhat

on-going

so I can't.

I mean.
You're here now, interacting with me.
So I guess I got what I wanted, eh?

My gut on you is usually right.
That newbie, both Xeno games we townread each other instantly but then allowed ourselves to doubt in the long-term, twice leading to my lynch in order to guarantee the win.
Its the paranoia that usually kills us. Well, me. You outlived me every time.

Maybe I should stop bringing in myself from outside the game into the game.
Maybe I should just wear the mask.

Look, I'm sorry for being an ass.

I don't want this to be a YOU AND I WALK AWAY FROM THIS

And sorry, I've already heard this song and am not particularly interested in yet another rendition; play me something different.

You don't like my reads? ok
You don't like my tone? ok
You don't like my delivery? ok
What do you want from me?

Yeah....andy was acting odd around Tammy.
Like really odd.

Like the conversation didn't feel normal in anyway.

Like a pre-pubescent teenager around his really hot Spanish teacher?

I don't get what you're alluding to.

i just can't get into this game. I need a flip to get reads, but i usually suck day 1 anyway. Why are people voting Andrious

Do you have any reads?
Any at all?

i just can't get into this game. I need a flip to get reads, but i usually suck day 1 anyway. Why are people voting Andrious

You should replace out it's not too late for someone to catch up your playstyle annoys the shit out of me the "sit there and wait for people to do stuff while I do nothing can we just get a flip any flip I'm bad day 1 I can't get into this game".

Agree with this sentiment.
What you said is far more charitable than what I might have said.

Slay and Dream are question marks for me as I don't understand how you can read them

Meta.
And me thinking I know them well enough.
Granted, I probably don't.
But I think I do well enough.

Not done yet.

[Andrius]

Hi!

There are so many people here that I can't shout out and tell you how happy I am you're playing or it'd be too long, so just know there's a bunch of you I'm really excited about, and I think this game will be great. Nay I think it will be moist!

VOTE: nacho. I'm town he's scum yoda yada.

Ok like, yeah, this is probably you being happy.
I read it and was like ok this is odd. Its not unnatural from you but at the time I was just like uh.

And I'm not saying playing the MOIST game is SCUM. I'm saying it just clogs up posts and its just more crap I have to ignore or parse through. If I'm sitting here going 'ok Tammy's being all friendly and shit and being all posting to the post-restriction thing then that just furthers the whole contrived thing. Because no one's going to say moist as many times as we all are in this game naturally. Just makes posts look more fake. Or at least odd as crap.

Its like, yeah, I get it. Early game shenanigans and funning around. Lots of words without much being said. I get it. Maybe its just me and being down to business. My second post was trying to figure out how the miller works (does he investigate as SOCK MAfia or SHIRTS Mafia or all Mafia or Non-Town Aligned or what) because that's important crap to know.

Maybe I shouldn't form reads on the first few pages but that's how I've always done it and D1 reads are how I refocus.

Its like the page three Aeronaut THIS GAME IS AMAZING.
No, its not.
We just talked about moist for a whole page and I'm not expecting LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS TO DEFEAT THE HUNS but I'd rather not waste my time reading crap for pages.

I have been head-in-the-game from the get-go.
Investigating the Miller claim.
SlySly pointed out the MILLER claim so of course I run all over it. That's not RVS that's hey lets pressure the miller now.
The Strahdians were all over it because Dunnstral faked a miller claim that game as scum.

Man.
Maybe priming this game with FUN FUN FUN wasn't the right call.
Maybe I should just replace into games and bring the fun in after they forget what having fun is like after burying everyone they know and love for days on end.

Then you return.
With a gif. Ok.
Commenting on the Desp claim. Ok.
#236 is what I understood as joke reads on Toog and Nacho for the saying they're town thing.

Maria's doing that stuttering thing but I can't read it and insert moist here.
Was hoping I'd have an instant read on frogger but i dont but i like his tone so that might be ok
I cautiously like desperado. claim is moist.

Again, I'm not expecting 110% srs bsns from the get-go but there's alot of posting and reads with alot of wiffle room. Which, again, ok, if that's your jam that's your jam just tell me to shut up and go away. If playing with me doesn't bring you joy then tell me to buzz off and I'll split.
That's your way.
Then you come around and are SURELY ANDY CANT HAVE THESE READS THIS EARLY THIS FAST OR SOMETHING
CLEARLY ITS ALL BOLLOCKS

We've had this conversation before.
I'm not trying to tell you how to play, but it sure feels like you're telling me when I'm not playing up to your standards or how you think I should be playing.
Again. We've

shared words on this but probably shouldn't say more

.

(The italics means I'm mentioning something we can't talk about. Yet.)

The only real objective thing I could see pinging anyone is that I said it was going to be a great game.

No.
Its like, you (and Nacho) have already set the bounds of how this plays out. Everything I've done is wrong or horrible and you've been fairly abrasive with the whole THIS IS BENEATH YOU crap.
Like, ok. You can disagree with me on my reads/tone/approach/whatnot.
But you went like complete abrasive on me and I feel like you're just trying to shut down this before it becomes a conversation. Because I don't get the feeling that's what either of you want. I've been nothing but clear with my apprach this game. Sure, some (or maybe all hell if I knwow) of my reads are wrong. But you're not going 'oh this or that read is wrong' you're both just going ITS ALL SHIT ANDY YOU CANT POSSIBLITY BELIEVE THIS'.
Where do we have a conversation from here?
How do we fix this?
Because it doesn't seem like you want to "sort" me. If feels like you've already done that.
Which I'm still attempting to do even though the longer this goes on the harder its going to be to parse.
Because, at the very least, there are a few people who know me well enough to know I'm an emotional player and don't do well when compromised.

People don't usually have a problem seeing me as town when I'm town.

Thanks for yet another insult.

But here is where you went low caliber. You actually made the accusation that I'm inflating my post count by participating in the mini game. Nobody does that shit. Nobody goes oh I'll inflate my post count to look town save in certain instances, and only scrub mafia players actually make that argument with a straight face. And I totally get that I hold players that I respect to a higher standard and sometimes it isn't fair when they're having a weak game, but the "inflating post count" argument is weaker than weak and sub par. That's a disappointing argument coming from you. I can't see you making it as town, especially when it isn't even close to the case, but I can see you making it as scum when you're scrambling for some reason to try to call me suspicious. And it's still disappointing coming from you as scum because it means that you're scraping the bottom of the barrel to explain your reads.

I wasn't trying to accuse you of inflating your post count.
I was saying, in general, all this little thing does is inflate the word/post count, which it has.
Yeah, I disagree with some things at a mod level. Yeah, I should probably keep more of my opinions to myself. Especially when they don't really matter that much. Especially whne unprompted.

but I can see you making it as scum when you're scrambling for some reason to try to call me suspicious.

I'd love to say something here, but I can't.

I wasn't scumreading you BECAUSE of the moist.
The extra posts are part of your portfolio, sure. But they're not the cause of the scumread like you may think I was saying.

Yeah, I talked about inviting people to the game. A few of us have talked about League or Higurashi. My scumread was a tone thing and it looked very friendly and/or trying to look friendly and playing the moist game is a great way for people, in general, to look like they're doing the cool kids club thing. Its a thing this game so people are going to do it and it strikes me as something scum might do to fit in. But that did not MAKE the read.

And here's the rub Andy. You are not going to make me feel like I'm not playing well this game, which is what your whole argument about the moist thing feels like. I feel centered in this game. I feel good. I may not have many reads right now, and maybe the few leanings I do have are wrong, but I'm good, it's good it's still really early day one. I have enough people here who understand me and know how I play and I can work with, and maybe some of them are scum. They're probably not all town, but I'm not isolated here; trying to make me feel like there's something wrong with what I'm doing isn't going to work and neither is trying to make it seem like there's something wrong with participating in a silly mini-game, even if I'm the only one actually doing it.

Look. This isn't some personal attack or vendetta.
I scumread you for your tone. I'm not here to criticize your play. I never have.
I am being honest with my reads. I thought it was suspicious so I said something. No, not all my reads are fully-formed from the first time I make a reads list. But I post what I have so it's there.

I don't care if you're EP one little bit. I do not think there is an innocent child in this game, so you are not that. EP could just as easily be your fake claim or he could have made himself scum or third party who knows. Your flavor claim does not make you town, and you can pretend you're in charge of the game all you want, but I'm not buying it.

I didn't really think I was in charge of BSG Mafia.
I just joked about throwing people out of an airlock.
I'm not trying to take over the game.

It's like oh yeah you find me suspicious because you disbelieve my reads and don't like I'm not pushing my scum reads, well you're playing the moist game and you suck so how about that huh???

I never said you suck.
Nothing I have said to you was meant as a personal attack.
I feel like there may be a disconnect here.

Its like.
Part of me feels like you're pissed at me for something.
If I'm the problem, I'll leave if you ask me.
If this is just you scumreading me and wanting me dead that's another thing.

I don't like your reads lists because I do not believe you have those reads. They feel very fake and fabricated, and they feel like you keep making them to avoid actually getting into the game. nacho was right when he said that your reasons for your reads are just poetry, and I believe that you have a problem adequately explaining your reads when you're scum. I don't have a problem with too many early town reads, but I do have problem with the town reads that you have especially in relation to how your other reads are playing out. I feel like you are forcing your scum reads and they don't make sense. For instance, you put Creature and nosferatu in null but Nacho in scum when really quite frankly they should all be null. (Except for now, I get the nosferatu scum read.)

You're telling me how to play.
"They should all be null"?
They may be to you.
I'm not trying to tell you how to play the game.
I get if you disagee with my methods/reads/tone/approach/delivery but dont tell me how I should be doing this.
I'm here and I'm playing the game.

So, its not that you disagree with my reads, unless I'm mistaken, because you're not saying that.

You're not really doing anything about your scum reads.

Uh, yes. Yes I am.
I was voting Desperado with the Strahdians.
I was voting SAD with the Strahdias.
I am voting Nosferatu without them.
I am transparent with my reads list even if I'm getting shit for doing so.

but your reads do not make sense to me. Your actions this game do not make sense to me.

You also don't seem to look at this from my perspective.

I get that you were happy at the onset of the game. My perception of your posting was different but that doesn't change how you felt or what you did.

And, frankly, what is this.
What is this.

We've had a discussion on telling people how they should or should not play the game before. And living up to one's expectations.

The biggest thing I'm getting from you (and Nacho) is that I'm not playing how you want me to play. Or I'm not living up to your expectations.

Which just seems odd given

words elsewhere

proved you are very strong-willed and don't want to be told how to play.
So why are you telling me how to play?

[Andrius]

Uh, sorry, I should have said I wasn't done.
Or something.
Oh well.

[Andrius]

Am I being trolled here?

Look.
I'm not even going to ask you for reads.
Name one person you want to lynch.
Name one person you think is 100% town (or as close as you can be without being dead).

I'd preferably love to hear your reads on [Nacho, Tammy, garry, Nosferatu, Aero] but if that's asking too much from you then ok.

At the end, that's me being silly jfc.

I couldn't have known - literally everything from you in the past few days has been THIS IS BENEATH YOU or BELOW YOUR CALIBER so I'm assuming everything is going to be salt and pepper and NO GAMES for a bit.

How do you read this:"You're an asset to town if you're town and you were someone I was hoping would be town and that I would be able to work with. But you don't feel like that right now and it's disappointing."And think I'm pissed at you.

Easy.

This post isn't in isolation. It comes primed with the following:

That is the scummiest retort you could have made Andrius. Really below your caliber as a player.

Disappointing.

I'll point out why when I get home for those playing along at home but really Andrius that's below you.

I don't believe that's your perception Andrius. I'm sorry. I know you're better that the bs your posting right now.

Petit : I'm not even pissy. I'm just disappointed.

BUT that's okay I'll explain why when I get home tonight. I'll be home all alone and can make myself very clear here. I still think you're over correcting. And just because you were able to knock me off tilt last time I suspected you when you were scum by playing this stupid game you're playing now, it won't work this time. I think you're full of bullshit. Me pointing out you're full of bullshit is not me bring pissy, just disappointed is all.

(sic)

Am I not allowed to have fun here? Am I not allowed to find moist mini-game absolutely hilarious and try to incorporate it when I can? You can be a stick in the mud all you want, but I like to have fun and laugh, and I happen to find the moist thing funny.

But here is where you went low caliber.

I don't like your reads lists because I do not believe you have those reads.

So, given our discussion has been primed with THIS IS BELOW YOU and NOT YOUR CALIBER and a constant reminder of how DISAPPOINTED YOU ARE of course I may not take your words as light-hearted or fun and games.

Ignoring the fact that you discredit my entire reads list and approach to the game.

Again.
I'm not EXPECTING YOU to play a certain way.

I've seen how this plays out.

But you, apparnently, keep telling me how horrible and disappointing my play is.
I don't get how you can be so against being told how to play and yet have no problems telling other people how to play, or at least, say the crap I've gotten this game.

I don't care about the miller claim.

It is relevant information so I'm paying attention to it.

You didn't get after anybody else for goofing off in rvs, you didn't get after anybody else for talking about towels and socks, you didn't get after anybody else for posting gifs/talking about laundry related stuff, you reserved that just for me for participating in the non-Andy approved moist mini game. If anyone has a problem with the other person here, it's certainly not me having a problem with you.

I didn't "reserve it" for you.
We all have expectations of each other.
I expect FB to be annoying, shitpost, maybe even claim scum D1, and chew on his scumreads like a

growlithe

dog with rabies when he doubles-down.
And there's the group of [zack, garry, Nosferatu, FB] in FB's little lurkers club who are doing next-to-nothing.
Aeronaut isn't even here.

By the way, before I forget, are you still scumreading Fro99er? Or, at least, less-than-townreading him?
I saw in in your ISO when I was quote-grabbing earlier and didn't want to forget about it.

I didn't stifle conversation Andy. I pointed out my issues with your reads lists and that they felt fabricated like you were forcing reads to have them and you were remaining on the peripheral of the game while trying to look like you were in the midst of it. I also pointed out my problems with the way you weren't actually pushing your scum reads and interacting on things that I thought you would if you were actually involved in the game and have the reads you say you have. Point out to me where you addressed that? Because where I'm sitting you ignored it. And you ignored it to instead deflect and put me in my place about the moist thing while making a really stupid argument. I'm not stifling conversation here Andy, never was. I wouldn't have written you a long ass wall if I were stifling conversation.

No, but you both were.
I say were because Nacho isn't around.

Let me clarify, again, in case people are misunderstanding the words I use.

I don't mean conversation in general. But the whole YOUR READS ARE POETRY or THIS IS BENEATH YOU doesn't open conversation about it. You basically leave room for one to go "nope". This exchange didn't start with some "can you explain your reads? because I don't get lots of reasoning from you that I can appreciate. Can you use layman's words?" Both of you went straight to the "ITS ALL TERRIBLE/SHIT/POETRY/TALKING TO TOOGELOOS EIGHTH GRADE SPANISH TEACHER" which is useless for me because I can't help you because clearly you don't want to be helped. You didn't ask for reads or a discussion, you simply went this is terrible and below my perception of where your play should be.

How did you imagine this conversation going down?
a) YEAH TAMMY IM SORRY LYNCH ME FOR NOT PLAYING UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS
b) Ignore you entirely.
c) Some form of "NO, AND"

Because, from my angle, it looks like you don't really care about what I'm saying and more of you zoomed in on not liking how I'm playing this.

And you finally address my issue with your lack of pushing your scum reads by pointing out that you're voting? Really Andy? Also, I couldn't give two fucks about team Strahd, and if you're voting with team strahd. We're playing a new game now, it's called the Laundry game. I get wanting to relive the greatness of some game past, it's why I wanted an early read on Frogger because we worked together really well in Mafiaception. But, the way you're acting about it feels contrived. Voting really isn't pressure as far as I'm concerned. People can leave their votes on a wagon all they want and not actually do anything about their scum reads, which is was I feel you are doing.

Remind me about this later because I cannot form a response that is:
a) charitable
b) lacking in sarcasm

The lists aren't stratified other than by category.
If they are, I'll make it clear that's the case.

This doesn't address my underlying question though about your Dreal read.

All this serves to do is say he's not necessarily your top town read.

You asked why drealmerz was my strongest townread.
I explained how he isn't; the list isn't stratified.
Do you want to know why he's a townread in general?
Why do you think I care what zaksomethingorother thinks about my drealmerz read?

This doesn't help me. At all.
I want him dead and the vague IN THE FUTURE stuff won't fly forever.

I'm not trying to help you. I'm saying there are very specific ways I can tell Nos is town. I have seen it a bit, but not enough for me to feel comfortable hems town.

Your reason on Nos is bull. It literally says you want him to do more. But you said the same for Creature and are letting him get a pass

What is the difference between the two.

I have no history with Creature so he's null for me right now (that and I haven't tried to sort him yet). I have a history with Nos and I'm perfectly comfortable not pushing that slot and letting it play out.

Its like we're on opposite sides of the court going:

FROGGER: IM WAITING FOR MORE FROM NOS
ANDRIUS: IM WAITING FOR MORE FROM CREATURE

And we're not getting anywhere together.
Because I've seen Creature in larges and

that's all I can say for now

so I hear your vague meta reasoning for Nos and I give you vague meta reasoning for Creature and

that's about all for now

.

I have a history with Creature and I'm perfectly comfortable not pushing that slot and letting it play out.

You're not trying but if you don't want him lynched I'd imagine helping other people not want to lynch him would be on your list of things that might be a good idea.

Nosferatu - Please show up and play the game.

That is not a reason. Plenty of town players on this site have low post count, and/or post substance (I.e. Shitposting).

Voting = applying pressure
Asking people to help me put a steak knife into his eye socket is also pressuring him

Also fite me I don't care if you don't like my reasoning.
I don't like yours but I'm not crying about it.
I just want him ded.

Creature - Not playing to his normal.

THEN WHY ARENT YOU PUSHING THIS

BUSY VOTING SCUM

I'm having a hard time getting into this game. Sorry, guys. I'll try to post more soon

I'd rather you literally not post than continue to do what you're doing.
Because if you don't post you'll get replaced and maybe just maybe we'll get someone who'll do something.

maybe replace, gerry, it's a good game and we need passion!

AMEN

I feel good, I feel like I'm playing just fine.

Scum worry about how they are playing. Town just plays.

Agreed.

No additional words at this time, your honor.

fuck both of you. I've read this shit over twice, and its absolutely unimaginable to me that you can right so much about nothing at all. If there's a scum between these two looking at just this back and forth in isolation, its tammy, since she manages to spit out paragraphs upon paragraphs shitting on andrius's points and saying his reads are fake as fuck, but does fuck all about it.

On one hand, she goes take some steam to get going.
On the other, I would imagine lynching what she might think is ScumAndrius might float her boat a bit.
I know drealmerz would.
I would repost what Pine said in Strahd but that's a bit explicit.

- terribly fake reads- terrible reasoning for the reads with a semblence of thought- subpar performance for their meta

Are you agreeing with this or restating her reasons?
Just so I know.

Don't have enough for a proper readlist but {Andrius, Toog, Tammy, SAD} are PoI for now I guess. Not really interested in reading up on the other stragglers now so I guess I'll just chill.

You're voting Tammy.
Ok.
Question. Would the Tammy/I exchange then be Scum/Scum for you?
Because your reads list certainly implies this.

Also I'm curious why you're scumreading Toog too.

Alright. I'm not actually sure Nos is town which saddens me.

Vote him with me.
I'll even forget we disagreed on this.

Yes, I think he's scum but I'm still trying to work that out.

Literally what is holding you back.
You're scumreading me who, according to you, has a HIGH CALIBER OF PLAY (or at least high enough where it can go down at least one bloc), and you're still sitting on this?
I'm baffled.

See.
I'm torn on you because yeah you could be town.
I'm also considering the remote possibility of at least one scumbag in [Tammy, Nacho] who weren't necessarily afraid of Town Andrius when they are scum but definitely wouldn't pass up an opportunity to lynch him.
The fact that you're not even voting me complicates this processes because this is literally a game of ONE ONE HAND AND ON THE OTHER for me.

Nosferatu is town, tho.

WHY
Its like, here's a blank unsubstantiated read.
Do people care more about the wrapping of the present than the present itself?
Because I will not change my reads but if its literally my presentation that irks you we can have words and maybe just maybe change it.

Or do only the cool kids get to drop unsubstantiated reads?

Site-wide post: Apologies for absences, I have been having some internet connectivity issues to cap off a week of rough personal issues, including illness in the family and problems at work. These should (I hope) be clearing up in the next day or so. I'll be catching up site-wide as soon as humanly possible.

I miss you.
You do important things and I'll be here when you come back!

Creature and gerryoat superb policy lynches at this point.

Definitely ok with the latter.

Aeronaut mia for like 4 days from here but active on the rest of the site cool beans.

So how do you think he's town at this point?
Was his early game that good?

tbh I don't know if my reads changed.

Can you remind the people what they are?
Or link to them?
Because I just ISOd a lot for Tammy and am tired of it.

You're active in the thread and obviously reading but have no reads. Everything you say is either "man i really just can't get in to this game!" or responding to someone else mentioning you. There's no town initiative. The closest you've come to scumhunting is asking SAD why he townreads you when you've done absolutely nothing--which just about says it all.

This.

Andrius, I will get back with you when I get a chance - this game has been thrown on the back burner a bit and I won't have a ton of time to work with this week so it will have to be of the short and sweet variety but I won't forget about you.

Well if you want anyone to take this Andrius wagon of your seriously you might want to get in here sooner than later.
And yes I am totally ok with you voting me as long as you're here posting and being readable and making reads and stuff because if Tammy doesn't have a read on you something's wrong or something.
I would gladly accept a daykill to the face if it meant we got a decent post from you every other day or something.

gerryoat, any non desp scumreads? you two are tvt.

why am i town, first of all. Then explain why he is town

Cause your attitude with him is like how you were vs twoface in space mafia.


You can see his case is bad but you can't see why it doesn't come from scum. You've just jumped to the worst case scenario.


He's town because his actions have indeed seemed genuine and his reasons for scumreading you seem like they come from someone who's not familiar with your play style.



Not that I'm familiar with your playstyle.

Something I can work with, finally.

I still haven't read his walls
I won't get to read his walls until later
my vote will serve the people better elsewhere for now

I mean.
I'd think you'd want to read a scumread's walls in the hopes of betting informing yourself of their alignment.
Especially when it comes to someone like me.

McMenno replaces Aeronaut. Thank you very much and give him your warmest welcome.

HALLELUJAH
Just don't leave birdlady behind and we're good.

"Catching up" then nothing
Static read/"Just lynch alreadh please"
Trolling around without content/buddying
Doesn't answer the question I asked
Making scummy assumption without baking it up

I mean, this is pretty par for the course for him.
If I tell you to go look at his play in D&D Curse of Strahd would you do it?
I spend two days trying to make sure he wasn't lynched for this crap when he was town.

[Andrius]

Italics still mean what they did earlier.
Retreat was good.
Happy Birthday Maria.

[Andrius]

No.
I will fight as I have been and will die when called.

The lurkersquad translates to being low-impact or borderline-useless and its a great place for scum to hide in. I will not give them another corpus to hide behind.

[Andrius]

this is asking for reads. I thought i sprinkled several throughout da?

I mean I would prefer reads on literally every living player in this game but I get the impression that would be too taxing for you.

[Andrius]

rage-boner for andrius or somesuch was it?

Close enough.

[Andrius]

this is asking for reads. I thought i sprinkled several throughout da?

I mean I would prefer reads on literally every living player in this game but I get the impression that would be too taxing for you.

i mean, i can give u reads on people. Just got to give me names.

Hows life buddy?

what u think of my scum read on u?

1. Desperado
2. drealmerz7
3. Zachstralkita
4. Pine
5. Ser Arthur Dayne
6. MariaR
8. SlySly
9. Fro99er
10. Nosferatu
11. McMenno

Aeronaut

12. Toogeloo
13. gerryoat
14. Creature
15. Nachomamma8
16. Tammy
17. Andrius

Life is ok.
Tired after the retreat.
Ready for dinner. You?

[Andrius]

I will walk on this game if my presence does not bring you joy, Tammy.
100% serious.

[Andrius]

I will walk on this game if my presence does not bring you joy, Tammy.
100% serious.

And this is as a person to a person.
I don't care about the game or my alignment or your alignment or the pain EP will go through to find a replacement.
If you want me gone, I'll walk.

[Andrius]

I don't have an issue with you.
The biggest issue I'm having is remaining charitable with posting and not being a sarcastic ass.

[Andrius]

Fire.
Can you quote my #1067 in the hopes that Tammy sees it?
I'm hoping she's not literally ignoring all my posts from now on but if so then my question will never get answered.

ty

[Andrius]

No I want done.
Like if you know me and I'm being an ass tell me so it doesn't continue and I'm not

force-replaced

.

Italics continues to mean what it did earlier.

Stepping out.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Dreal
Doesn't sound fake I'm ready

Sounds 100% fake.

Firebringer is possible scumz.

glad someone is catching on

sigh

that's a shit fakeclaim, man, if you're going to go after someone like that you have to have it wayyy better thought through and sellable

tell the specifics of your delay (:

I'd love to hear what you came up with, if anything

For someone so against outing role information, this seems very out of character for you.

so, NO, what is so hard for YOU to understand

I'm asking about the FLAVOR

do you know what FLAVOR IS

I mean.
Its :goodmodding: to not make the Cop 100% predictable as per flavor.
I don't think the cop is real but the reaction is real.

Oh btw seriously now for the other players the reason I chose to investigate him is because of this point (which he never answered anyway)

Great, while you're here you can answer:

Another thing, and this is what I'm really having a problem with, is why he jumped on me for having positive flavor and making the assumption positive flavor = scum. This needs to be answered by him I couldn't give a fuck if he hates flavor talk or not: Do you have positive or negative flavor.

Are you for reals?
I still don't believe you.

I wish I wasn't so garbage at gambits though to make them a bit more believable...

Daycop is pretty terrible.
Terrible modding decision who approves that for balance can't be stopped or blocked etc.

The gambit itself was totally not believable, but the reaction you got from Dreal was worth it alone

This.

[Andrius]

If you knew it was fake why did you engage it for pages?

[Andrius]

This is where we'll disagree.
There are some players that thrive off of gambits and reaction-testing.

Apparently he's one of them.

It may not always be helpful, but generally town-driven from what I've seen.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Firebringer

Guys can we do this instead

Why?

Like I don't believe somebody actually seriously got that mad over an obvious fake guilty.

I mean, I do.
He flipped out on me for outing his message to me in Strahd. This is normal.

Everything is fine.

There are some clear and obvious play differences between him + his home site and how we do things on MS so yeah, I totally see this as him just being THIS IS NOT THE WAY OF MY PEOPLE WHAT IS THIS HERESY.

well I'm on page 13 and I already know drealmerz is town

creature is giving me some fierce pingers

ep is also scum probably

EP is the mod.
Unless you mean me.

[Andrius]

No, I can play 'down to business' ball with you.
Mortify the heart.

I had no qualms. I missed you, and then you showed up and joined in the small gathering of (now dispersed) people who were basically like andrius is posting poetry/beneath his caliber of player so it was like, well what do we do here. There was ZERO engaging on reads. Like, if you came in here all Nacholove being "andy, I literally agree with zero of your reads. lets talk and sort this out." we'd be having a different conversation. But that's not what happened.

Anywho. Feet forward.

There's a little feeling that you're scum because you engaged me and I'm still not a townread of yours and yet you're doing nothing about it. Scum-Andrius should be an easy lynch for you to push almost LITERALLY by saying 'ANDRIUS IS SCUM, I AM NACHOMAMMA, WE READ EACH OTHER THIS WELL'. Or at least, we did.

Like, you're literally calling me scum here.
Come at me.
Where's your vote?
Where's the call to arms?
I don't really think you think I'm scum.
Because if you're town and you think I'm scum this day ends with me dead. Because we aren't going to give each other free passes just for old times' sake.
I kind of think you're scum because you're scumreading me and you're after garryoat. Which is cool. Bus away. I'm more than willing to lynch him because he's scum and/or as a policy lynch. We can call it whatever you like. He's scum and needs death.

[Andrius]

Ninjas.
Catching up.

[Andrius]

Well, everything runs off of reads, yeah?
You called my reads poetry.
I base everything off my reads.
So yeah, I took it as a full-frontal attack.

I also don't understand where I crossed a line here/what line I crossed; are you saying that me saying that your reads were poetry was crossing a line?

Again, if you were like "your reads are terrible how can you be TR/SRing

• when [reasons]. But you don't. You swing at everything in a dismissive way of ITS ALL POETRY. No, this is how I do things.
  If I displayed my reads as FRATRES/ADVERSARII or GREEN/ORANGE or LOYAL TO THE OLDE FOOD GODS/WOLVES would that be too poetic for you?
  
  How can we talk about this if you're just dismissing it all as poetry? There's no conversation on reads, there's no sorting out people, there's just YOURE SCUM BECAUSE POETRY.
  Or something.
  

  The problem with you're "hey there's something off here" is that I don't know where it originated from - why wouldn't you expect Tammy to be happy? Is how you approach your read on Tammy really directly linked to her happiness levels?

  I perceived her tone to be off. Bit hesitant, bit happy, sure, but something was off and I'm not going to sit here and say happiness is faked or something but idk it was how I read it and that and the moist comments were like "oh weak entry here this all is nothing town-postive here tammy isn't an instant town read mayday'.
  

  I didn't like your reads because there wasn't any heart in them. If you think that I'm selling you short, don't tell me that I'm insulting - put me on the correct path.

  NO HEART
  NO HEART?
  
  Ok.
  If I, instead, put SlySly and Pine as town because MY HEART SAYS SO is that any less poetic?
  

  Things like "drealmer is as drealmer does but imma be a mason" - at best, you're referring to something that happened outside of this game that gives you an edge in reading him that you aren't explaining because...?

  Because I can't explain it in words.
  He is erratic. He has different meta tells and behavioral norms for this game from another site.
  I literally claimed that he sent me a message overnight in STRAHD and he scumread me for outing role information.
  You saw him flip on SAD earlier.
  Like, in a way its basically an ORANGE/BLUE when we see BLACK/WHITE in that he has different behavioral norms governing how he treats play.
  

  There's "We're always waiting for the next season. The producers don't want any big moves this early. Also, you remind me of AGM a bit with the (apparently) you have a preference for MAFIA and there's less engagement here. But hey, we're talking atnd its D1 so maybe we'll stick it to the producers this one eh?" - I don't know what the TV references are about; what I do know is that your read on Maria seems to boil down to "she likes scum and isn't engaged so town!", which is again something that I think is objectively weak.

  Some of this is thinly-veiled flirting or at least references to
  other things
  .
  I won't pretend to know her as well as people like you or d3x or Varsoon or, really, most of the people from our XENO game series. Or even ABR for that matter.
  This is basically on par with ABR replacing out for me. Behavior. I see ABR replace out, I know he's scum and lynch it with fire.
  There was a time when people did that with me.
  
  Objectively weak? Sure.
  Do I care? No.
  This is how I'm deriving my reads at the moment.
  

  I have no idea how "Andrius I think you're approach is fake" got warped into something other than a criticism of play

  Is there an outcome where you think someone faking reads is town?
  Because I hear FAKING READS and I think SCUM.
  

  There's no attack on you as a person. I don't know how the wires got crossed badly enough where my approach doesn't end in you talking more about your reads and that bothers me.

  I don't see it as a personal attack.
  I just see it as you're attacking my method which just leaves me at a NOW WHAT juncture.
  

  I am taking issue with your reasoning. When I read your readslist and you are explaining itself and I physically recoil from your reasoning, that's a problem. If I lost meaning with my attempt to be light then I'm sorry but my entire issue is that your reads seem fake because that's not how I've known you to read people. That's not how I've known most to read people.

  Ok so we're clearly not getting anywhere with this current line so yeah, I'll go freaking reread everything and HEART/BRAIN it later when I'm in the mood and drop ANOTHER nasty wall that most people won't read.
  
  So give me time away enough to clear my head and the heart and I'll hit this.
  

  I'm asking you to open up so I understand what you are saying and instead I'm just getting a big ol' wall of lead and I'll acknowledge a good part of this awkward dance is due to time but you have to cut me a bit of slack and stop assuming that I'm approaching this as a criticism of you as a person - our relationship as people is considerably less complicated than our relationship as players (as people I've been to dark places too and I am not a friend that needs maintenance; once we have a connection it's there when you need it). As players, our approach to each other is an approach wrought with a lot of paranoia - I remember good reads yes but I remember crippling paranoia as well and so going "Nacho - you are not a human - I can read you" stood out as not how I expected you to approach me if you were scumreading me. I hoped you would explain your approach, say "oh it was just me trying to intimidate you" or "I have a different approach now"; I'm not trying to shut you out.

  Yeah.
  Give me a bit.
  I'll reconnect the wires or die in a fire.
  Sorry. We'll get this right.

[Andrius]

I'm just going to stop posting now since we seem to be missing each other in that we're both reading/responding 600 pages apart.
Will reconnect with this another time. Maybe later tonight depending.
Sorry, brother.

[Andrius]

I will wait.
You read what you need to and we can words later.
Ill be here all night.

[Andrius]

I know the fragility of life.
If this is our last dance than I'm willing to step back and pull a reread so we get this right.

[Andrius]

so all of this "they're ignoring me!" is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

No I'm not saying either of you were.
Was more of a how else is this supposed to work out *lists options*.

Well if you want anyone to take this Andrius wagon of your seriously you might want to get in here sooner than later.
And yes I am totally ok with you voting me as long as you're here posting and being readable and making reads and stuff because if Tammy doesn't have a read on you something's wrong or something.
I would gladly accept a daykill to the face if it meant we got a decent post from you every other day or something.

My intention isn't for an Andrius wagon. My intention is to understand where Andrius is coming from.
As for my presence in games, unfortunately new schedule is kicking my ass and that has led to some fucking up, especially in places where it feels I have to work instead of play. It's possible the weekend brings a new Nacho. It's possible the weekend doesn't.

I get busy.
Don't want this falling by the wayside with some convenient both of you are super busy oh darn that scumandrius snuck by us again.

This is another part where I don't understand where you're driving at with your approach - I thought it was fairly obvious that the intention behind that post was "I'm reading Andy's walls the second I get back" but it's possible that my message was worded poorly.

Could also be my failure to reading comp.
Happens at 1am.

I had no qualms. I missed you, and then you showed up and joined in the small gathering of (now dispersed) people who were basically like andrius is posting poetry/beneath his caliber of player so it was like, well what do we do here. There was ZERO engaging on reads. Like, if you came in here all Nacholove being "andy, I literally agree with zero of your reads. lets talk and sort this out." we'd be having a different conversation. But that's not what happened.

Me saying that you were posting poetry was a playful reference to Battlestar Galactica which is probably the last game we've played together. I wasn't going to break down your reads individually and explain why they made me uncomfortable because I don't yet have the time to do things like that but when I'm skimming and something stands out as that harsh of a red flag yes I'm going to comment and yes I'm going to push. I figured that my push on you would urge you to read me in a deeper way, I thought that a "your play is funky" message from people who used to be able to read you would be incentive for you to be more transparent for you to backtrack and explain where you were coming from earlier but instead wires crossed, broke, and burned.

We were also in Vi's Fire Emblem game. You and Syr were hydra-ing. Cabd, ffery, and I killed you guys N1. We won.
Then there was Curse of the Werewolves which you and Iece won for us and I did nothing of note.
Pretty sure Xenogears was before all of this.
And yeah.
I'm on the case.

and VasudeVa

Okay, you sons of bitches.

I'm back in this thread. Everything else in my life is all caught up, though the wife still has bronchitis (up from the flu, trending towards pneumonia fml).

I'll be rereading from the start, so PROTECT YOUR HOLES and LAUNDER those SOCKS.

YESSSSS

I have never seen so much tryharding in one game before and I don't know if I'm scared or impressed

[Andrius]

You know what.
I just started reading this game and Fire just claimed sock. Sock, this game, we've been pretending is scum. Fire claimed scum in DEFCON. He was scum. COINCIDENCE? >____>
It reminds me of a similar trust tell I had for the longest time as scum.

FB early scum?
gerryoat early scum.
Desp is scum b/c miller.

Oh hey. Completely forgot Pine is Hated. Relevant information. Pine still town.

Why the hell would you test a Hated claim?
And like, Hated going away in My/LyLo kind of defeats the point.

I really don't see [SAD, Maria] as scum here.

Also,

addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before.

Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me. It's *possible* I saw it in a game many years ago, but definitely nothing recent.

Also, I absolutely

love

my role, and will likely use it in a future modded setup.

Given your propensity towards lying in STRAHD, don't mind me if I don't necessarily take this at face value.

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE ALL TALKING SO WEEEEEIRD I HATE IT WAAAAHHHHH

EP THIS GAME STINKS SO MUCH I NEED NOSE JAMMER

I'm starting to wonder if this is a schtick.

Nosferatu continues to be scummy.

I think I like this Firebringer.

He claimed scum.
I'm seeing double.
I'm super concerned.

Then creature's post still reads scummy it looks like he pre-planned/pre-wrote it.

That's really not Creature.

Yeah, I totally plan for this to be a FUN game, not a TRYHARD game. That will probably fall apart when shit gets real, but right now it's towel time.

TRY HARD SOCK MATES!

We gonna wreck this game. These towels won't see it coming!

Like seriously.
Why do you claim scum like this?
I don't get it. I really don't.
Fire all I want is this game to be great and maybe just maybe we can be something uniquely amazing.
But if you're a scumbucket then you need death.

SAD is scum.
Desp is scum.
THE STRAHD KILLERS are all town.
Solid start.

Maria is town.
Fire is town.
Fro99er is town.
Creature is town.

Would like to see more Gerry and Aero.

SAD town. Liking his vote-shrugging off and the testing the Hated thing even if its not something I'd do.
Desperado somewhat in the middle here. Slot will self-sort itself a Miller. The up-front claiming thing is town, but, again, miller play is so standardized its easy for scum to sneak in. As Strahdians know. Kind of waiting for him to do things unrelated to claiming at this juncture.
Pine is town. This is all heart. I mean, yeah, there's no reason for scum to not claim Hated if they're Hated, and if they're fakeclaiming it they get NOTHING since it matters little, has no established procedure, and can be tested and he dies. Town.
Sly is town. Consistency is the name of the game. I've seen you in one,

no, two

games and you're consistently town. Glad you're here, brother.
FB might actually be scum here. The claiming sock thing is concerning given I've only ever seen him claim scum as scum (DEFCON) and he's not really doing much at present.
Fro99er isn't as strong of a read as it was the first go-round, but I think he's town. Less namely because I can't remember why I shoved him in the town group so hard.
Outright saying Creature is town this early was yeah, probably a mistake. But I think I'd wind up at the same conclusion after 50 pages and having him come into his skin again. Right now, hasn't done much so probably should sit at ?? or some middle ground throwaway category that's going to see some usage here.

Gerry likely scum.
Aero likely scum.
Moving along.

SAD is super town for the conversation with Desp regarding Commuting.

Hey Toog.
Before I forget.
I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the Tammy/Nacho/Andrius slots. Since you townread Tammy from Page 1 and were voting me for REACTIONS. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

garry useless.

Creature's doing his thing. At his own pace.
Everything is fine.

Hold up. Before the flavor train leaves the station, my flavor is also an obstacle to getting the laundry done, and I'm Town. EP actually tells me to fuck myself in my role PM. So let's not rush to a conclusion here.

I am considering the utility of a mass flavorclaim here. I would like to invite discussion on the topic. I see pros and cons.

You're also Hated though.
So thus enjoy some of the many 'benefits' of Miller-itude.

and this entire site needs to get the fuck off of miller's claiming out of the gate

it's fucking dumb and boring

Yeah but would you prefer it go undone and then an investigative role gets a guilty on them. And THEN the miller goes 'Yeah oh I'm a Miller'.
You may not like this but its far superior to the alternative.

I would enjoy some words about what to expect from fro99er.
Because I'm looking at 303 going why.

You don't need to baby me. I know you went to bed. I didn't mean to be like SHES NOT HERE SHES SCUM it was a SHES NOT HERE.

What was the "wut" part for after the "She was here for pages 1-2 and is gone."

Why the interest?

Okay here were go

Desperado is town
Pine is town
Frogger is town
Aeronaut is town
Maria is town
Sly is town

Gun to head, yes.
Yes.
Gun to head, yes.
No.
Yes.
Yes would bank the game on this.

Okay here were go

Desperado is town
Pine is town
Frogger is town
Aeronaut is town
Maria is town
Sly is town

That's a lot of town reads for 14 pages. Especially when 10 of them have been trolling.

I'm more interested in your lack of reads.
You should talk about the game more.

gonna be honest, guys. i have no clue who mafia is. someone give me a good case and i'll sheep the vote

The Mikujin Tell.
Outsourcing vote.
General lack of content and/or reads.
This needs to die.

Vote: gerryoat

Call it policy lynch, call it whatever. Scum dies now.

I'm not

really

pre-empting you as a scumread I said I have you as lean scum because your early posts felt super wishy wash.

But I can get a read on you later anyway it's not like OMG TAMMY IS SCUM LYNCH HER WITH FIRE.

I don't think the word really was needed there. Like, I'm not pre-empting you as a scum read so much as I'm doing X...but I am a bit pre-empting you as a scumread.

It would have read find without the really.

This seems overly nitpicky.
Why focus on wording?

The fact Tammy was focused purely on that made me feel like she wanted to look like she was doing RVS especially knowing other people had the challenge while avoiding interacting with people.

In general, this is my concern with the mechanic.
Doesn't add value to the game besides for more dreck which we surely don't need.
But apparently people are TOUCHY about this so whatever it doesn't really matter.

and you decided to share that speculation outloud for no particular reason

when it's a 17p theme game and an experienced playerlist where we all know SKs potentially exist in the game

hmmm

Why does this matter?
Its not baseless and its not a detraction.

I have no idea how to read Maria. The affect in the posts pings, but that could just be how she types, and I got worried about that wording, but IDK.

I don't like her at all, nothing to do with the modifier thing tho.

Reasons would be great.

thats a good idea:
VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

You literally just called him town tho.

I'd vote SAD just for saying he has like 7 TRs after 10 troll pages and maybe only 3 legit content pages. but i'll wait

Meanwhile you have 0 reads in total and 0 legit content pages.
Why do you even play this game?

OMG SOMEONE HAMMERZ

FOR THE LOLZ

You could be scum again.
Ugh.

VOTE: frogger

BRING IT ON

Fire can we do SAD and let me battle it out with Tammy later.

LOOK AT ME LINING UP LYNCHES

Then again there's a certain air of IDGAF about you that makes me think of UT.

Unvote
Vote: Fro99er

Maria's still scum she's just kind of boring

Well to be fair you've done 0 to convince other people she's scum.

This is not town frogger by the way and if it is I'm disappointed as all hell. i was like yay frogger's playing we worked together really well in mafiaception maybe that will happen again if he's town.

In mafiaception he helped the town worked together and was careful about his reads. He wasn't this lynch happy oh let's lynch someone 24 hours into the game with really lame and not solid reasoning. In fact when he was scum reading ABR, he listened to my read there and when he was discounting it was like Tammy can't listen to you anymore.

This is not that Frogger. i can't imagine a town frogger going let's lynch fast so I can see how tammy reacts let's battle tammy.

If this is what town frogger looks like now color me disappointed as shit.

But you feel more like Bees.

This feels familiar.

Fro99er is still in the leaning town category.
Nacho is town. This is town Nacho.
SAD is still strong town.

Can we L-1 and derphammer SAD. I want to see tammy's reaction to that.

ninja'd theres the L-1

DERPHAMMER PLZ

generally when i'm trying to encourage an early hammer I don't refer to it as a derphammer.
if he was trying to bait impatient town then I think he would have gone about it differently.

Right.
I think of RECK LOLHAMMERs and this ain't one.

Zack is unremarkable.

Having a hard time discerning on Toog.

Zach is super scummy btw post 617.

You'll have to elaborate, my friend.

Oh the side defense on me it was something Spiffeh (scum) did in DEFCON when I was being wagoned on Day 2 and he was halfheartedly defending the wagon saying it was bad etc.

You just have a lot to gain from it and very little to lose knowing I'll flip town. Also it's extremely similar to Spiffeh because you're not actively trying to stop the wagon just sitting there saying that you think it's bad.

This makes sense.
Though your wagon was no longer going anywhere but burning down.

Has nobody else noticed that nosferstu keeps posting and responding to the most irrelevant stuff?

(That one post to me was like the only actual game related post she's made.)

He's scum.
Like Gerry.
Nothing new here.
Will gladly lynch either of them.

Ser Arthur Dayne (7): Aeronaut, Pine, Andrius, drealmerz7, SlySly, gerryoat, Fro99er + (Firebringer) + (Toogeloo).

Sure.
Aero's likely scum.
Gerry's scum.
FB's leaning scum.
Toog's up in the air atm.

I'd totally support an Andrius wagon for great pressure, but he's V/LA, so any push there isn't going to amount to anything currently.

Great pressure didn't happen.
How disappointed are you?

Andrius don't you think I am behaving just like defcon?

Sort of.
What do you stand to gain from pointing this out?
I'm so confused.

Like, here's my issue with Toog.
There's enough voting and doing things to be busy, but the gif thing is distracting and kind of feels like a schtick for the sake of being a schtick. I don't like it.

I honestly just glazed over the last two pages. drealmerz probably at least earned himself a "No need to worry about being lynched today," pass, but I didn't really see anything rather important stick out from that ridiculous terrible back and forth.

Can you elaborate on the drealmerz thing?
Because free passes are scummy.

Vote: Gerryoat

I'm out for the night.

[Andrius]

tl;dr

TOWN
SlySly
SAD
Nachomamma

Desperado
drealmerz
Pine
Maria
Fro99er
Creature

SCUM
FB
Nosferatu
Menno/Aero
Toog
gerry



Categories are not stratified within themselves.
Town has two strata.

Wasn't that bad of a read.
Nothing really exciting happened.
I don't think I'd be surprised if any of my townreads turned out to be scum.
I don't actually think any of them are like SURPRISE-level material.
Maybe that's just because my care level is so low.

[Andrius]

You guys realize that if I honestly only claimed scum as scum that's called a trust tell, right?

The level of play here astounds me sometimes.

Your level of play consists of calling yourself scum. ok.
Its only a trust tell if you seek to gain an advantage from it.
If its just something you do and keep to yourself for your own devices/entertainment then that's that.
Benmage's trust tell thing is clearly a trust tell.
The thing I did as scum for years upon years was more of for my own entertainment and/or consistency since I cannot recall ever outing it. I have since ceased and desisted.

Its like, can we cut the fun and games and actually get content from you? Because you're starting some lurker group that is 0% seriousness but the danger is allowing people to hide in it. Surely you realize this.

I think you're scum because of that and you have low willingness to do anything.

Gerry really isn't scum tho I'm mad u wrote 8 volumes of info just to vote a ML LMFAO

Then convince me he's not.
Because you're basically just going THIS IS A BAD IDEA without doing much.
Your involvement in the game is basically limited to trying to shut down a few select wagons that are town and little actual scumhunting.
And you interact with a select few people.
And I said I'm ok with this if its nothing more than a policy lynch.
Which it isn't.
zzz

no, it's not a superior alternative, it's a stupid lazy alternative that does absolutely nothing for the game and if that is how it "is done" then millers shouldn't even be put in games it's so fucking stupid

Ok let me rephrase the question.
Do you prefer an alternative where millers claim only if they are investigated and a cop claims a guilty result on them?

I wanted to protect andrius cause I enjoy him as a player but I can't deny he has been a scumread since his tammy interaction like 20 pages ago.

His interactions are wonky.
He doesn't know how to interact with me which isn't good sign
And he is playing this game like he is at a fourth grade reading level:

VOTE: Andrius


Sorry buddy, your great but you stink like socks

Talk about superficial reasons for scum reading someone.

If he's been scummy for 20 pages, why were you vote parked on desperado (and not even trying to push a desperado case). If you seriously thought desp was scum, why didn't you push more people to see why he's scummy?

Because he's scum and is just seeking to look like he's doing something.
This isn't his first vote on a scumread of is that goes nowhere because he knows there's no support and/or motion at all.
The SAD vote, for example.

Andruis is SK.

ok then.

Andrius how does it feel to write that many words and be wrong. lmao, i'd be embarrassed. I kinda wanna just be lynched so you feel embarrassed tomorrow

I don't care what you think.
You've clearly demonstrated an unwillingness to contribute to this game so yes, barring a replacement joining the game I am 100% ok with you being lynched since there is 0% game-related content.

Nothing about Fire's play is convincing me he has any motivation to find scum whatsoever.

Give this man a prize.

[Andrius]

Desp is scum b/c miller.

it's page 56 bro

get some new material

Congratulations, you read the first few lines of a line of reading that encompasses most of the entire game. So you just saw your name and stopped? KEEP READING

[Andrius]

...
Desp is scum b/c miller.

Desperado somewhat in the middle here. Slot will self-sort itself a Miller. The up-front claiming thing is town, but, again, miller play is so standardized its easy for scum to sneak in. As Strahdians know. Kind of waiting for him to do things unrelated to claiming at this juncture.

Gun to head, yes [Desperado is town].

Unvote
Vote: Fro99er

Maria's still scum she's just kind of boring

Well to be fair you've done 0 to convince other people she's scum.

For Desperado.
A sixty-second skim for his name.

[Andrius]

Scum is scum of either color.

[Andrius]

The Andrius Cares About what happens meter is at an all-time low.
You might be better off with someone else in this slot.

I don't have the drive to do anything major this game and, yeah, it feels like we've been playing this game for a long, long time.

[Andrius]

Vote: FB

Still want gerryoat dead. Maybe more than FB. But FB's also scum so zzz SAD is here.
Let's do something.

[Andrius]

Andrius, we need your poetic self back.

I mean.
I'm not sure what more I can give this game that hasn't already been done.
Pine's MIA.
Nacho's away.
Tammy's away.
We've got a whole brigade of lurkers.

Deadline's in five days and I get to sort this out?
FB's scum because he's not actually trying to sort this out.
Its just hey, game's stagnated, deadline's looming, let's swing an Andrius lynch since all the powers that be either scumread him or are gone.

[Andrius]

YOU WANT POETRY?

Ruin, has come to the laundromat.

You remember our venerable laundromat, disgusting yet alluring, gazing proudly from its stoic perch above the gallows.

I lived the last few years in that ancient, soap-young adult infested hellhole, fattened by frivolity and a playerlist too great for its own good, and yet I began to tire of... moist-related shenanigans. Singular unsettling tales suggested the laundromat itself spawned village idiots and apathy, and encouraged even the best and brightest players to apathy and vacation. With soap and dryer sheet in hand, I bent every effort towards the pursuit of finding the moldy socks that lied near the heart of our beloved laundromat, exhausting what remained of the lifeblood of my heart. At last, in the soap-scum soaked crevices beneath the largest washing machines, I unearthed the damnable socks of antediluvian evil. Every step shook the foundations of the laundromat, some cried for my death. Some cried for help. In the end, I alone fled, despairing and wailing through the LED-infested laundromat halls. Until sanity failed me.

You remember our venerable laundromat, disgusting yet alluring, it is a festering abomination. I beg of you, return to the laundromat, claim your birthright, and deliver this game from the ravenous clutching shadows *pistol fires* *body hits the floor*, of the Dankest Socks.

[Andrius]

I would have posted

Suicide: Andrius

instead of the effects but some might say that's too close to home.

[Andrius]

Oh shit guys Firebringer is making some confirmed town softclaim.
OH no what do we do?
Clearly unvote him because he never makes jokes or shitposts.


pedit: It'd be better if I could have narrated it.

[Andrius]

I was going to say that horrible, terrible word that starts with an M against but I already said it once.

[Andrius]

Murder? That's a lovely word

I love it when you talk like that.

[Andrius]

And thank you, Andrius!! That brought a tear to my eye.

[Andrius]

Murder? That's a lovely word

I love it when you talk like that.

You won't when your the topic at hand....

Trouble yourself not with the cost of this crusade. It's noble end affords you broad tolerance in your choice of means.

[Andrius]

Isn't that game hard as fuck?

I don't think so.
It can be punishing to the unprepared, and aggravating to those with no patience, but I enjoy it. Its difficulty is part of the charm, and if you carefully plan your team, manage supplies, and think ahead, I don't think its as HELLA HARD as people make it out to be.

[Andrius]

let's swing an Andrius lynch since all the powers that be either scumread him or are gone.

I'm not down with that swing.

I mean, FB has a point.
Forecasts indicate a 0% chance of a Tammy lynch in the next five days.

[Andrius]

What game is that???

Darkest Dungeon

[Andrius]

Holy crap FB is actually mad.

[Andrius]

Andruis are you scum my man real talk.

No.
You think I would dare scumread Tammy as scum?
No, I would be all nice and not rustle the waters since she takes a while to gather steam. No matter what she says or no matter what she does that pings me or is a personal tell of mine, I'd let her just be town and play pretend all game. And then I'd kill her later in the game just as she's starting to get a move on things.

That being said, if you will not lynch gerryuselessoat and if we ACTUALLY think FB is some sort of confirmable town role, then yeah, it looks like it'll be me.

[Andrius]

and play pretend all game

For the people who seem to constantly misread my posts, this should be more like:

'And I would play pretend all game'.

[Andrius]

Man where have we seen the FB/Maria thing before it feels so... familiar.

[Andrius]

You think I would dare scumread Tammy as scum?

Hmm this is a good point.

Remind me about this

later

if I'm still around.

pedit: Is this going to be another game where I pretend to be the SK? I can do that.

[Andrius]

Ignoring you and not mentioning you for rest of games

This will last less than 48 hours.

[Andrius]

Okay I'm down to just lynch Creature at this point.

Vote: Creature

I take it you're against lynching gerryoat?
Care to explain why?

Because I'm currently against lynching Creature.

[Andrius]

I take it you're against lynching gerryoat?
Care to explain why?

Idk man I have a soft spot in my heart for people who play terribly and I always seem to think scum wouldn't act so scummy.

It might be the something special effect from defcon though...

You're giving the man a blank check.
Well if I shoot him with my Serial Killer kill tonight and he flips scum I'm calling for your lynch super hard tomorrow.

in hindsight I may have been a dick but I refuse to apologize to anyone.

Ok, see, this is probably the most honest thing he's posted in a couple pages.

[Andrius]

And by couple I mean however long the Maria/FB thing lasted.

[Andrius]

Something's definitely off.

[Andrius]

Question, Toog.
Was your reads list designed to look like mine?
Because I saw it and first thought was PARODY.

[Andrius]

This, for the record.

Day 1 Laundromat Says:

Clean Folded Laundry:

Desperado
drealmerz7
Ser Arthur Dayne
MariaR
Fro99er
Nachomamma8
Tammy

Needs to be Sorted into Whites, Darks, Colors, and Delicates:

Zachstralkita
Pine
SlySly
McMenno

Dirty, Stinky, Laundry (

Febreeze won't even help

)

Firebringer
Nosferatu
gerryoat
Creature
Andrius

[Andrius]

Forecasts indicate a 0% chance of a Tammy lynch in the next five days.

It's never easy getting scum lynched.

This is true.
I was just thinking this about gerryoat.

[Andrius]

This, for the record.

Day 1 Laundromat Says:

Clean Folded Laundry:

Desperado
drealmerz7
Ser Arthur Dayne
MariaR
Fro99er
Nachomamma8
Tammy

Needs to be Sorted into Whites, Darks, Colors, and Delicates:

Zachstralkita
Pine
SlySly
McMenno

Dirty, Stinky, Laundry (

Febreeze won't even help

)

Firebringer
Nosferatu
gerryoat
Creature
Andrius

[Andrius]

Well if I shoot him with my Serial Killer kill tonight and he flips scum I'm calling for your lynch super hard tomorrow.

I'm PR btw lol. Won't claim which.

I'm going to resist the temptation to yell at you like I did notscience in Xenogears.

sigh

WELP
FB AND GERRY ARE CLAIMING PRs
GUESS ITS BACK TO ME

[Andrius]

Is Andrius really a vig? Or no. Tbh i havent read the past 10 pages. i lied lol

No I'm the Serial Killer according to SAD.

[Andrius]

Like literally.
Stop talking about PRs.
Stop claiming before you need to.
Lynch me and end this farce because clearly nothing's going to happen outside of this group because no one gives two shits.

[Andrius]

gerry, without going too much into specifics, how exactly can one person here confirm you as town?

STOP

[Andrius]

But WHY is that necessary?

What does it matter if they're [Masons, Brothers, ICs, Friendly Neighbors]? Outing this doesn't help this at all.

[Andrius]

A) Out some masons. Cut the balls off a town and give scum some more options? Do they shoot the masons of the serial killer or other people they actually want to kill? Sure we lose 1-2 lynch options which helps but Masons' strength is being leveraged on the long-term.
B) Out some brothers. Same as above.
C) Out an IC. If they're high-profile, great. If they're not, a complete wash. GO is useless and doesn't read, how does this help us at all?
D) Out a Friendly Neighbor. Scum can RB a Friendly Neighbor. They're not confirmed until they target someone who lives. Preferably more than 1 person to confirm if they're not scum gambiting.

[Andrius]

Lynch me and end this farce because clearly nothing's going to happen outside of this group because no one gives two shits.

Tbh we need a toogeloo lynch but that boat doesn't look like it would sail.

HIT ME

Also, doesn't it sicken anyone else that people continue to soft/hard claim power and then just leave it at that? Why broach the subject, and then condemn anyone who wants to talk about it?

PEdit: It will never happen SAD, but wishes can be fishes, so keep casting your line ^_^.

Yes, there is only one BAKER and the whole PR tee hee game is non-constructive and encourages bad play because GO is literally doing nothing.

[Andrius]

A) Out some masons. Cut the balls off a town and give scum some more options? Do they shoot the masons of the serial killer or other people they actually want to kill? Sure we lose 1-2 lynch options which helps but Masons' strength is being leveraged on the long-term.
B) Out some brothers. Same as above.
C) Out an IC. If they're high-profile, great. If they're not, a complete wash. GO is useless and doesn't read, how does this help us at all?
D) Out a Friendly Neighbor. Scum can RB a Friendly Neighbor. They're not confirmed until they target someone who lives. Preferably more than 1 person to confirm if they're not scum gambiting.

In response to Toogeloo.

[Andrius]

So then, what was the point of even claiming power Andy? Why do we have now 2 people who just non-nonchalantly claim to be power roles and then expect no one in the game to talk about it?

Because he's trolling and/or useless and/or trying to entertain himself without actually playing/reading the game? Idk how do you explain the actions of a madman to sane people?

There is no value added for the town, there is entertainment value added for him.

Hell, scum could have a role that confirms that role to another player, and then make it seem like they are town for doing said action if they can convince the said person to vouch for them. There's nothing wrong with asking for at least a little more information to work with. If they don't want to expound upon their comment, they shouldn't have made it in the first place, otherwise they are just trying to look town without doing anything.

Confirmed Role =/= Confirmed Alignment.
Confirmed Alignment is STRONG and no scum is going to have that ability.

otherwise they are just trying to look town without doing anything

He's not doing anything.
That's not news to us.

[Andrius]

but w/e no one is expecting amazing play from gerryoat

This is not an excuse for poor play.
This is not an excuse for not playing the game.
This is not an excuse for PR tee hee bull.

[Andrius]

It would be :goodmodding: to include a Miller without a Cop.
SpyreX reviewed this game and thus, :goodmodding: is possible.

[Andrius]

wait i thought andrius was vig, he's cop?

No comment.
I don't do the TEE HEE game but I can be a SK for SAD.

[Andrius]

andrius, help me avenge birdlad pronto

ON MY WAY

[Andrius]

this happens everytime i'm town

This tells me the problem

might

not lie with all our reads being bad.
Maybe you should try playing the game.
You know, READ, hunt for scum, etc.

[Andrius]

"I claim PR" is terrible. Is that supposed to excuse your poor play? Your lack of reads?
It doesn't.

[Andrius]

If we lynch a PR day one, I am out

Don't do this.
Replace out now or buckle down with us.
We're not doing this again.

[Andrius]

you don 't just go around taking everyone to L-1, getting their claim, and lynching the first vanilla claim, FB

wtf?

Don't go exaggerating this.
This thread is already difficult enough as it is.

[Andrius]

ANYWAY

I think it would be superb if anyone who opposes a Creature lynch says why they do.

Gerry is alive?

pedit: drealmerz, I'd love your thoughts on the WHO DO WE LYNCH DILEMMA.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Gerry

lol i'm done, you guys are bad. i hope town loses

You might as well replace out.
You're (likely) playing against your win condition if town.

[Andrius]

You're (likely) playing against your win condition if town.

self-vote is scum-move pretending to be giving-up-townie

it needs to die now

It is a possibility, yes.

VOTE: Gerry

lol i'm done, you guys are bad. i hope town loses

You might as well replace out.
You're (likely) playing against your win condition if town.

wouldnt i be playing against my win con as maf too. this response is weird. like you know im town

I don't.
I want you gone if you're not going to play the game.

I still like Garry and andrius though

As town or as lynches?

[Andrius]

@Andrius as players in this game

Gerry isn't playing the game.
How do you like him?

[Andrius]

Something about gerry he gone off that molly.

And onto Blacklists everywhere.

[Andrius]

I can't even tell if Firebringer is scumreading or townreading gerry anymore and if he wants his lynch or not.

Yep.

[Andrius]

I fuck up lots, Tammy. I stood accountable immediately.

This man is town.
The townliest of men.

[Andrius]

Fire, if you don't want yourself lynch and Gerry's in your top five.
Your other option at this juncture is me.

[Andrius]

ftr its my flavor and my role that work together. which is why i'll be confirmed town to someone.

What is that? And will they be confirmed town to you?

So I was about to ask similar questions but realized that regardless of his alignment he will continue to be difficult and uncooperative so I'm just letting it go.

I mean, if people believe he'll be an asset to the town with whatever role he has, then great, he stays.

[Andrius]

Desperado is a poor substitute for the actual scum.
Creature is a poor lynch in general. SAD's defense of gerryoat is making me a little leery given twice now he's been I think he's town but then leaves enough room in the statement for a reversal later.
I'm not saying he's scum and I'm not saying townies never have bad reads but its getting to me.

I think there are enough people who scumread me or at least want me dead or wouldn't complain if I were dead to make this happen.
I don't think there are enough people here willing to lynch FB or GO.
Desp had his time and it didn't go anywhere.
Creature I don't think has the popularity at the moment.

There's also the PR tee hee game from you and GO that will likely turn some people off to their lynch.

[Andrius]

And yes I realize this is similar to Sly's so-called 'Hail Mary' attempt to derail the Jason lynch in STRAHD but these are my thoughts and they are out.

[Andrius]

Something about gerry he gone off that molly.

I mean I also agree "I claim PR tehehehe" is super dumb and just creates more confusion for the town

but w/e no one is expecting amazing play from gerryoat let's be honest here

.

I take it you're against lynching gerryoat?
Care to explain why?

Idk man I have a soft spot in my heart for people who play terribly and I always seem to think scum wouldn't act so scummy.

It might be the something special effect from defcon though...

Bolded mine.

[Andrius]

I think there are enough people who scumread me or at least want me dead or wouldn't complain if I were dead to make this happen.

Words of a VT.

Or a Vengeful. >:D

[Andrius]

I mean, I asked him if he was against lynching Gerry.
And he gave me that.
So.

Again, I'm not saying he's scum.
I'm just saying there's obvious resistance to most of the wagons currently.

[Andrius]

Five days IIRC.

I'm not opposed to lynching deadweight town - I'm asking if you/people THINK he's deadweight town.

Tammy, I give you SEEKING MASON. Maybe they're a PAIR OF SOCKS who have to find each other. If they find each other, they confirm each other and become town.

I mean sure he could be misunderstanding/overselling his role.

[Andrius]

It was more about the other posts with the bold.
But oh well.

[Andrius]

I don't know what EXACTLY what he's referring to, likely to S_S, but its more of the negative statement with the disclaimer.
I think _____, but ______.

[Andrius]

Again, its probably nothing.
SAD is still a townread.

[Andrius]

Greater than 0%.
Thus, it is a possibility.

[Andrius]

SAD's input doesn't affect my Gerry read.
I am conflicted a to whether he will be an asset to the town.
I believe that this could be scum. The only thing holding me back is and has been his claim.
And the fact that he does not seem to care what anyone thinks.

[Andrius]

I understand your SR there.

Actually, the Persivul comparison kind of makes sense for Desp. Like, his recent posting the past few days makes me think he's town. I feel Persivul was more consistent over time though.

[Andrius]

Ok. Point taken.

[Andrius]

tl;dr

TOWN
SlySly
SAD
Nachomamma

Desperado
drealmerz
Pine
Maria
Fro99er
Creature

SCUM
FB
Nosferatu
Menno/Aero
Toog
gerry



Categories are not stratified within themselves.
Town has two strata.

[Andrius]

TOWN
SlySly
SAD
Nacho

drealmerz
Pine
Maria

Creature
Fro99er
Desperado

SCUM
Menno/Aero
Gerry

Nosferatu
Toog
FB


I believe, in my heart, that FB's town. The past days before today said otherwise. I'm struggling with this one. Gerry is a toss-up where he could be scum and this could be some big tee hee bull parade to throw us off and/or someone screaming at him in the Mafia PT to do something. Because his counterwagons are Fire and I. Hrm.

Blocs are divided by strata. Menno has done little to change my read on Aero's slot. No/Low-impact slot. Toog is a lower strata because of something I can't remember before this bottle of wine. Nosferatu's been catching up and been looking great.

Fro99er, I can't recall why he's voting me. I mean, I don't really care, but he's bottom strata and doesn't seem to be driving anything and more of just the Xth vote on a wagon type deal.

Desperado also had that moment earlier where I was like "yeah you're calling for someone's head but you're doing little about it and you've jumped onto/off of my wagon a number of times, so its like are you actually trying to pressure people or not?

Creature's in low-town as nothing big's really going on.

[Andrius]

Alot's happened today and I'm making sure my pegs are in order in case I wind up swinging today.

[Andrius]

OH
ZACK.
That's who I'm forgetting.

Uh.
Zack is in the lower SCUM bracket.
Doing nothing, afaik has no/few scumreads though he's voting with me b/c Fire asked him to. Low-impact, done a bit to deflect off some of the major wagons to come along. Its like he's playing a game within a game and that game's players consist of [Nos, Maria, Zack, Fire, Gerry].

[Andrius]

Maria whyyyyy

[Andrius]

I honestly thought you were working up to a vote on me.
I mean, I'm happy you're not. Don't get me wrong.

[Andrius]

I'll take it.
I'm glad you're here and am sorry we might be parting so soon.

[Andrius]

My heart says FB is town.
My head said FB is scum. Before a few drinks.

I don't see a case for Creature being scum besides for activity, and Creature has been known to be lost in larges.

[Andrius]

Did I say sorry?
Ok.
I'm sad we might be parting so soon.

[Andrius]

Aka you've put in a lot of work/wall posts and you're gonna bring more content in you're null I'll vote you I guess if need be but I'd strongly pref not

Out of curiosity, how does a Null read on me work?
If you care to share your thought process ofc.
I've had a few glasses so I'm more than willing to chat.

[Andrius]

No one supports a desp wagon so this is a compromise wagon i don't see a reason to tr creature so we don't lose much

I don't really see a reason to SR Creature besides activity though.

[Andrius]

SLYSLY NINJA
WHOA

PINE IS CLERIC DONT LYNCH THAT
CREATURE MAY COME AROUND

pedit: YESSSSSSSS

[Andrius]

But you don't TR me.

[Andrius]

I don't think Gerry is a traitor. I hadn't considered that but why be THIS open about it?
It comes down to utility for me.
Will he be a team player or won't he?

[Andrius]

I'm bias not voting you.

I know. And I appreciate the vote of confidence.
To say I were unbiased about you would be a lie.

[Andrius]

So let me ask this. Am I really in your townreads or am I bias in your townreads

Let me go look at my list again.
Which tier you're in matters.

[Andrius]

Ok so you're second tier town.
Yeah I read you as town.
I bumped you up a tier for bias.
Like, drealmerz and I have a completed game together

and then some

so I have a stronger grasp on him than you. Also there's no bias involved.

I townread you because I really don't see a general scum-motivation to anything you've done so far. Sure, you're not playing like Tammy or SAD or Fire or Sly, but I think you're town. You don't necessarily care what other people will think and are able to fight off people like Fire who come around.

I bumped you a tier because of bias. Because I'd be sad to see you go and, frankly, would be more surprised if you were scum than the Tier III Townies.

[Andrius]

My heart says FB is town.
My head said FB is scum. Before a few drinks.

If you only read me for my little scoff with M. Please ignore that. That is not indicative of my alignment at all.

As in if thats only reason you townread me, id prefer a scum read. Kthx

Its not.
I can quote your post in particular

but that's all I can do.

You should know what I mean.

[Andrius]

Let's get civilized about this.

*chink*

[Andrius]

You know what.

Let's have a toast for SlySly.
Because he is a MAB. You never played League with us, Sly, but you are a Mab. You rush to aid a brother in need and are an all-around classy guy who I would love to have a beer with someday. Absolutely a pleasure to play mafia with.

<3

[Andrius]

If we lynch a PR day one, I am out

Don't do this.
Replace out now or buckle down with us.
We're not doing this again.

you don 't just go around taking everyone to L-1, getting their claim, and lynching the first vanilla claim, FB

wtf?

Don't go exaggerating this.
This thread is already difficult enough as it is.

in hindsight I may have been a dick but I refuse to apologize to anyone.

All of this.

[Andrius]

what u drinking andrius?

I have a bottle of wine.

*chink*

The feeling's mutual. I'll have to look into this League you speak of.

I mean, I don't play it anymore.
But that isn't important. You are a true mab, brother.

[Andrius]

2014 Sauvignon Blanc from Napa Valley here.

2013 Yellow Tail. Shiraz. I don't normally drink wine but this was a gift.

[Andrius]

I am so happy I can never drink...

I'm sorry you can't.

[Andrius]

I don't drink fancy stuff, I drink myself to the brink of death.
Then I wake up the next morning realizing i fail and try again another time.

I've been told I should have died a few Thanksgivings ago.
That and other death-related experiences have changed me.

[Andrius]

what if you hold it normal but extend your pinkie out, thats fancy/cultured right?

Wine Snob 101.

[Andrius]

I did not mean to bully.
I was merely saying that's How to be a Wine Snob 101. Extend the pinky finger outwards away from the glass.

[Andrius]

you hammered me

Only if you're hated.

I'm sure someone could fix this if they wanted.

[Andrius]

CAAAAAAN YOU FEEEEL
THE LOOOOOOVE
TONIIIIIIIIIGHT

[Andrius]

Can't sing for you voice clips are frowned upon for some reason.

[Andrius]

Gifs and soap operas?
Yep.

[Andrius]

late nite at the laundromat, good times. we need a group picture to instagram.

I don't Instagram bro.
I just GIF.

im really town tho guys. when u see my role and flavor you'll see why i claimed

Hence why I am torn on lynching you.

[Andrius]

we need a group picture to instagram.

[Andrius]

TEAM STRAHD 2017

[Andrius]

I think my finest thing so far was the Darkest Dungeon Intro parody on pg. 63.

[Andrius]

thats why i think you're maf sly. you're more worried about a claim than reading me

You've been only concerned with your own claim and not with being readable for other people.

[Andrius]

This is so how this game is supposed to be. We've been spamming, yet still playing and it's all readable in seconds.

Not even spam.
I'm ErrantParabola, remember, and I was at a club last weekend.
It is very in character of me to drink wine.

[Andrius]

I think my finest thing so far was the Darkest Dungeon Intro parody on pg. 63.

Your finest is yet to come.

They say that the best blaze burns brightest, when circumstances are at their worst.

[Andrius]

i don't think errant parabola is one to frequent clubs tbh.

I didn't think so either.

[Andrius]

Man I'm drinking, playing mafia with some good people, and watching people play D&D at 1am.
Life could surely be worse.

[Andrius]

I'm here, I'm here. This game has my top priority in the morning.

PINE
JUST WHEN THIS EVENING COULDNT GET BETTER
<333

[Andrius]

honestly drinking alone has always been told to me as sad

Its not. Being with friends or MABs, in whatever medium, still counts.