Royal Family Mafia - Game Over!

[Nightson]

And LuckayLuck, from what I can tell your defense amounts to "I assume he's town, for no reason other than it provides me with a starting point." Care to explain why I should give that any weight at all?

I'm going to also assume that Ether is town now.
Eventually, with enough assumptions of townies, I will be able to death star a mafia.
You may or may not buy into my methods, but it doesn't really matter to any of us unless Canuckle or Ether are in danger of being lynched. At that point in time, I will rain down divine righteous blades of fury at the mafia.

Careful, Ether is a tricksy one.

<3

1.@ Nightson:How have I been fishing? By helping to generate discussion?

It's soft fishing, where you're subtly seeing if you can get an answer that might reveal LL's role.

[IH]

IH, what are you trying to say in post 71? "Luckay, I think you're implying a power role to protect Canuckle because you're scumbuddies. Canuckle, I think you're scumbuddies with Luckay and trying to distance yourself even though Luckay's clearly doing the exact opposite. Luckay, I think you're getting ready to bus Canuckle now even though you protected him only a few posts before." I don't understand your train of thought at all; please articulate.

Sorry if the sarcasm didn't reach you from number five Ether.

Maybe I should have used a smiley face.

I'm going to also assume that Ether is town now.
Eventually, with enough assumptions of townies, I will be able to death star a mafia.
You may or may not buy into my methods, but it doesn't really matter to any of us unless Canuckle or Ether are in danger of being lynched. At that point in time, I will rain down divine righteous blades of fury at the mafia.

[faultylogic]

So what if the mafia begin to use your town tells to get on your assumption list. Then you will start watching random townie's closer than people on your assumption list, would you not?

I keep trying to express this point to you in both of the games I'm in with you. It's just not a smart way to go about hunting scum IMO.

It's soft fishing, where you're subtly seeing if you can get an answer that might reveal LL's role.

1.If he's scum I hope he does reveal his role truthfully.
2.I was actually explaining my logic to him.
3.When I posted it, I didn't think about exposing a role until it was to late.

[LuckayLuck]

I'm going to also assume that Ether is town now.
Eventually, with enough assumptions of townies, I will be able to death star a mafia.
You may or may not buy into my methods, but it doesn't really matter to any of us unless Canuckle or Ether are in danger of being lynched. At that point in time, I will rain down divine righteous blades of fury at the mafia.

[faultylogic]

So what if the mafia begin to use your town tells to get on your assumption list. Then you will start watching random townie's closer than people on your assumption list, would you not?

I keep trying to express this point to you in both of the games I'm in with you. It's just not a smart way to go about hunting scum IMO.

Don't worry IH, I do this in each game, you know this because you're in both games with me. And while it may look completely ridiculous to you, I have my methods, there is method in the madness! Roll with it for now. If it makes you feel better, just take my words to mean that "I believe Canuckle and Ether are leaning slight townie."

[Canucklehead17]

Well, everyone's methods and 'fishing' are fascinating, but we're still not really finding anyone who's scum yet.

[Fritzler]

Well, everyone's methods and 'fishing' are fascinating, but we're still not really finding anyone who's scum yet.

canucklehead is

[LuckayLuck]

Well, everyone's methods and 'fishing' are fascinating, but we're still not really finding anyone who's scum yet.

canucklehead is

Fritzler, if Canucklehead is a scum in this game, then he is a scum PRODIGY. I am 95% sure Canucklehead is townie.

[HackerHuck]

I'm not sure I understand why Ether and LuckayLuck are claiming others to be town so early in the game. There haven't been too many substantive posts and no one has yet appeared to be in danger of lynch. Where does that certainty come from and why make a case of it now? If there's some inside knowledge involved, that exposes some power roles early. It just strikes me as odd...

[LuckayLuck]

Ether, shall we be masons? 8)

[LuckayLuck]

All, I just had a revelation.
The Silent Speaker is likely to be townie.

unvote

[LuckayLuck]

wait...no...my revelation was made late at night. It's no good. It's actually completely wrong.
The Silent Speaker is actually suspicious.

Vote: The Silent Speaker

I may have just looked incredibly foolish in these 2 posts, I probably really do, but just keep in the back of your mind...method behind the madness.

[LuckayLuck]

By the way, IH is a townie in this game (not sure about the other one yet, IH ). IH, we definitely should be open masons in this game, your style will compliment mine quite nicely.

[Mariyta]

Mmk, LuckayLuck is no longer allowed to post after midnight....

[Jack]

So those guys are masons? I knew there was something weird going on.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think they are...

I think he trusted them enough to want to be masons with them, but unless they really are masons/mason recruiters, then I think it's just a figure of speech, almost.

2.@ Mariyta:I agree that fishing isn't that scummy.

3.When I posted it, I didn't think about exposing a role until it was to late.

Nu? Fishing not scummy, but you didn't realize you were fishing until you posted?

I think fishing can be scummy but I think it's probably one of those tells that catches townies...although IGMEOY.

Vote: silent speaker

cuz it's fun to do that every post.

[Ether]

Well, at least we're back up
For a couple of hours,
So of course I have a need to sing
I'm blissed out to be back
The withdrawl was painful
At some point, we

must

dethrone the King!
Still, no longer do we have to wait
Are we all okay?
Are our bearings straight?

Luckay, "singers" such as myself get a lot of requests to be masons, I'm afraid. :P There's a waiting list I'll need to check first.

Although I of course whole-heartedly agree with your second assumption, your strategy confuses me. What

are

you trying to do? Why not try to find scum based on the nature of the attacks, instead of who they're on? Or are you just looking for people you think are town for now for its own sake?

Canuckle, if you're going to complain, please contribute while you're at it.

Then, IH, what are you figuring from points 3 and 4? Your suspicion is odd, considering that Luckay does this in other games, too, including one that you yourself are playing in.

I'm not sure I understand why Ether and LuckayLuck are claiming others to be town so early in the game.

I'm what?

[Fritzler]

Well, everyone's methods and 'fishing' are fascinating, but we're still not really finding anyone who's scum yet.

canucklehead is

Fritzler, if Canucklehead is a scum in this game, then he is a scum PRODIGY. I am 95% sure Canucklehead is townie.

that's not the only solution

:whistle:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*waits for ether to sing*

[IH]

Alright, from my little mini reread I've done I've come to some conclusions.

1)My slow little brain has finally wrapped itself around the concept of "Fishing" not meaning for comments but for a Role.
Which would explain my apparent confusion.

2)I seriously do not understand how the Silent Speaker is fishing in that way, and IMO this wagon isn't exactly well founded. Perhaps another thing I haven't brought my small brain to wrap around.

3)Ether, that was when I took fishing to mean "Fishing for comments" instead of "Fishing for roles"

Fishing for comments=Not necessarily bad
Fishing for roles=Mildly scummy

Though I do agree with STD that fishing is more likely to catch a townie who isn't thinking that scum.

4)I hadn't connected LL to doing these in both of his games. Any point I make about it connecting these two would be pure wifomm which is why I won't. I will say I still think it's a bad idea, especially based off of the comment "Eventually I'll have narrowed enough down as townie that I'll have scum"

5)Hello Pooky.

6)[quote="LuckayLuck]

Well, everyone's methods and 'fishing' are fascinating, but we're still not really finding anyone who's scum yet.

canucklehead is

Fritzler, if Canucklehead is a scum in this game, then he is a scum PRODIGY. I am 95% sure Canucklehead is townie. [/quote]

How is he a scum prodigy? Also have you played on any other site LL? I'd like to know your former experience on how you've come to this.... different style of play.

[Ether]

Not fishing.

3.@LuckayLuck:How can someone have a straight face in a game of online Mafia? Besides, your defense wasn't that great IMO, because I largely do not believe in Townie tells.
Also, it could be noted that you have been protecting Canuckle.

4.@Canuckle:Hmm, I'm not sure about you're theory. I'm wanting to think that you're trying to distance yourself from LuckayLuck.

Wait--oops. I was still thinking implied power role when I first asked about that. Viewing Luckay's crazy mystical defenses as just defenses in the end and writing off #5 as sarcastic makes sense after all.

unvote; vote: Canuckle

Any point I make about it connecting these two would be pure wifomm which is why I won't.

Hmm?

But I do agree that Luckay's strategy seems--well, I'm not certain what it actually is and how far in the game he intends to go by it, so it's hard to say. Luckay, I too would like to read a few finished games where you made such predictions.

[Cardinal Ibelly]

The Official “Abridged Yu-Gi-Oh!” Vote Count!

Ether – 4 – Bogre, Fritzler, Cogito Ergo Sum, Canucklehead17
Canucklehead17 – 3 – IH, the silent speaker, Ether
the silent speaker – 3 – Save The Dragons, VitaminR, LuckayLuck

Arafax – 1 – PookyTheMagicalBear
bird1111 – 1 – bird1111
HackerHuck – 1 – Thok
IH – 1 – Nightson
LuckayLuck – 1 – HackerHuck
Mariyta – 1 – Jack
Nightson – 1 – Mariyta
TheEyeofMordor – 1 – TheEyeofMordor
VitaminR – 1 – Twito

With

22

alive, it takes

12

to lynch... in America.

Waiting for the sun to rise in a few hours – 3 – Arafax, Maz Medias, Sotty7

Mod Note: Seven days... (oh snap!).

Actually, we will wait 5 days to see if everybody posts (to allow for those who may not know that MS is back), and for those that do not, we will promptly give them a mind crush.

[Save The Dragons]

"See, I was right! The sun did come up in a few hours!"

I didn't say

Vote: silent speaker

because I think he's fishin'.

"I wasn't going to say that!...in america..."

[IH]

The WIFOM statement was about connecting the two games and his playstyle.

[Fritzler]

*waits for ether to sing*

ooh

me too

[Thok]

The Official “Abridged Yu-Gi-Oh!” Vote Count!

Ibelly, I think I'm pregnant. And Bakura's the father!

(OK, I made that statement up. But I'm just letting people know I'm still here.)

[Canucklehead17]

Well, at least we're back up
For a couple of hours,
So of course I have a need to sing
I'm blissed out to be back
The withdrawl was painful
At some point, we

must

dethrone the King!
Still, no longer do we have to wait
Are we all okay?
Are our bearings straight?

Luckay, "singers" such as myself get a lot of requests to be masons, I'm afraid. There's a waiting list I'll need to check first.

Although I of course whole-heartedly agree with your second assumption, your strategy confuses me. What

are

you trying to do? Why not try to find scum based on the nature of the attacks, instead of who they're on? Or are you just looking for people you think are town for now for its own sake?

Canuckle, if you're going to complain, please contribute while you're at it.

Then, IH, what are you figuring from points 3 and 4? Your suspicion is odd, considering that Luckay does this in other games, too, including one that you yourself are playing in.

I'm not sure I understand why Ether and LuckayLuck are claiming others to be town so early in the game.

I'm what?

My apologies. It just seems to me that the mafia could be letting everyone "fish" themselves into oblivion.

Remember this, you'll not get a smart mafia to bite when you fish.

And of course, it's always safe to assume the mafia is smarter rather than dumb.