Mini 980 - Trader Mafia (Game Over)

[Nobody Special]

@Jack: I have made my determination.

@Mod: Will players' money amounts be public?

[zoraster]

@Mod: Will players' money amounts be public?

No.

[SaintKerrigan]

Okay, for the newer guys out there, I just want to make one thing clear:

Both mafia groups can daytalk. This gives each group an

infinitely

greater ability to coordinate their actions during the day and can lead to some insane strategies. Look up the recently-ended Mini 975 if you want an example of this. In other words: be extra, extra vigilant.

With that out of the way, let's get down to business...

[Zajnet]

Okay, for the newer guys out there, I just want to make one thing clear:

Both mafia groups can daytalk. This gives each group an

infinitely

greater ability to coordinate their actions during the day and can lead to some insane strategies. Look up the recently-ended Mini 975 if you want an example of this. In other words: be extra, extra vigilant.

With that out of the way, let's get down to business...

I'm just glad that this will be somewhat mitigated by the fact that only 2 people can coordinate with each other, so you'll never get all 4 scum wagoning the same person intentionally.

[Andrius]

SaintKerrigan's creepy avatar aside,

Why are you twisting Fish's words, Jack?
Seen in post 14 and 18.
If its for the lulz then I understand. lol

[Jack]

zoraster's creepy avatar aside,

Why are you twisting Zajnets's words, Jack?

Post restriction

[Fishythefish]

On Jack's name changing:

Originally, I made a point against him - and I still think what he said is a scumtell. He implicitly replied with the rather poor defense "shouldn't you also suspect Andrius?" by changing the name in my post. I pointed out that Andrius hadn't done the same thing, and now he's trying to make a joke out of it.

[Andrius]

@ Jack: I'm completely confused. This isn't a post restriction game. /confused

@ Fish: I can call you Fish right? Yeah, I definitely think its scummy, though he could just be screwing with us just because.

[VasudeVa]

/in. Nice to see some familiar faces here(Andrius, Jack and NS).

Is that post restriction thing serious? I can't really tell.

[Andrius]

I'll try not to get you lynched VV, at least not on D1.
Jack... maybe. lol

[VasudeVa]

Getting lynched D1 adversely affects my self-esteem.

[zoraster]

There has been some confusion over how an e-bay bidding scheme works, so let me illustrate with an example:

Ability MB: $20
Person A: Bids up to $50
Current bid becomes: $20 and the 24 hour clock begins
Person B: Bids up to $40
Current bid becomes: $41 to Person A
Person C: Bids up to $100
Current bid becomes: $51 to Person C
24 hours runs out, the ability is sold for $51 to Person C.

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Next, there will be some incentive to wait to the last minute to bid. I discourage that as current bids may well not be up-to-date as I am but a volunteer and cannot update 30 times a day. Instead, enter your highest price you're willing to pay.

you MAY reduce your highest bid so long as it is higher than the current bid. But again, keep in mind that current bids may not be up-to-date and you may not be allowed, so don't count on it too much.

[Andrius]

Getting lynched D1 adversely affects my self-esteem.

Awwwww. Me too. /except when I'm lynched but not really lynched.

[farside22]

Hey I'm back from my trip but a bit busy right now. I hope to have something tonight but most likely won't be able to concentrate till tomorrow.

[zoraster]

The game will start in about 2.5 hours (00:00 EDT). At this point, you may vote and place bids by PM.

Day 1 Vote Count

Nobody Special ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
Zang (
Jack ( 0 )
SaintKerrigan ( 0 )
Zajnet ( 0 )
NavyCherub ( 0 )
VasudeVa ( 0 )
Andrius ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 0 )
Steam-Powered Shovel ( 0 )
flashstorm ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 12 ) Nobody Special farside22 Zang Jack SaintKerrigan Zajnet NavyCherub VasudeVa Andrius Fishythefish Steam-Powered Shovel flashstorm
Total Votes ( 12 )
Deadline: June 14th at 23:00 EDT
With 12 able to vote, 7 needed to lynch.

Marketplace

To place a bid, PM Zoraster with the highest price you would be willing to pay.

1 Nightkill x 2

- This ability will give its owner two night shots. (max: one per night)
MB: 10 CB: 41 Deadline: 00:10 EDT 6/1

2 Investigation Immunity

- This ability will make its owner appear to be innocent to Cops.
MB: 20 CB: 0 Deadline:

3 Body Armor x 1

- This ability will allow its owner to take one night shot without dying.
MB: 20 CB: 0 Deadline:

4 Pick Pocket

- This ability will allow its owner to steal 25% of the cash his or her target possesses each night.
MB: 50 CB: 0 Deadline:

5 Cop x 2

- This two-shot ability will allow its owner to investigate a player (max: one per night). That player will come up as either innocent or guilty.
MB: 50 CB: 0 Deadline:

6 Double Voter

- This will cause a player's vote to count for two votes. (Not separable).
MB: 20 CB: 0 Deadline:

7 Doctor x 2

- This two-shot ability will allow a player to select another player to protect against a night kill the following night. (max: one per night)
MB: 10 CB: 0 Deadline:

Current bids may not be up-to-date. Current Bids and Deadlines will only be kept up-to-date by edit until the next vote count is posted.

Please be patient with me. This game requires an absurd amount of organization (vote counts, bids, loans, actions, etc.).

AS A RULE, IF YOU DO NOT RECEIVE A CONFIRMATION PM FROM ME (e.g. "got it") BUT I HAVE READ IT, YOU MAY PM ME AGAIN.

I promise I won't bite, but there is about a zero percent chance I will not at some point miss a PM or two.

[Zajnet]

The game will start in about 2.5 hours (00:00 EDT). At this point, you may vote and place bids by PM.

Yay!

Let's do this!

[farside22]

I have one question. How the heck does anyone in this game make money. What I see is town makes $20. every game day but spends money to get abilities. You can get a loan but that just puts you in debt. When someone is about to be lynched you spend 100 minimum. From what I can tell crunching the numbers unless you spend absolutely nothing trying to make 1000 by the end of the game is close to impossible.

[zoraster]

I have one question. How the heck does anyone in this game make money. What I see is town makes $20. every game day but spends money to get abilities. You can get a loan but that just puts you in debt. When someone is about to be lynched you spend 100 minimum. From what I can tell crunching the numbers unless you spend absolutely nothing trying to make 1000 by the end of the game is close to impossible.

It might well be impossible. But I'd rather impossible than easy in the case of an instant win condition that throws off the balance of the game.

To start, there is exactly $1300 in the game. Depending on how much debt people go into, this number may go down (with debt) or up (with wages).

I may consider reducing the amount an estate goes for, but this brings up the obvious problem of scum having an easier way of determining what is in a scum's estate. Stay tuned.

[zoraster]

The Game Is Now On

A question arose: You do not get a wage on this first day. So town currently has 100 dollars each, and mafia has 125.

[NavyCherub]

Since we can't unvote, is anyone against a FoS count to replace normal vote counts?

[farside22]

Since we can't unvote, is anyone against a FoS count to replace normal vote counts?

No objection. This will work well and I don't mind keeping a count of fos's if people want.

[Zajnet]

Since we can't unvote, is anyone against a FoS count to replace normal vote counts?

No objection. This will work well and I don't mind keeping a count of fos's if people want.

No objection here either. Thanks for offering farside

[Andrius]

Wait, guys.

Does Zor seriously mean that we can only cast one vote per DP?

I always thought "no unvoting" was that it is unnecesary to unvote.
I thought it went like this:
Vote: XXX
*no unvote*
Vote: YYY.

@ Zoraster: So, do we really only get one vote per DP?

[zoraster]

No. You can change your vote as often as you want. You just can't unvote in the sense of going back to "not voting."

[Andrius]

Ok. Thought so.

RVS lives!

Hmm... Nobody Special has a plain avatar, NavyCherub's is Brock (or is it?) and farside doesn't have one. Tough choice.

Vote: Nobody Special

Because your avatar is pure purple, in clear imitation of Zoraster. And since you're nobody special, no one will miss you (besides any scum buddies you may or may not have).