Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

[Iecerint]

Meta ftw.

[Snow_Bunny]

So, scums out there, I have this wonderful ability that turns scum into town. So, who's scum? Let me help you. It's totally free.

[Glork]

IIIIIIIII know what it means

But I'm not gonna say.

Why not?

I dun wanna.


I'm looking to see if I can clear something with the mod, then I might actually make a worthwhile post.






Also, Almaster is clearly a novice at policy pressure. If you start off by saying you're voting X for such-and-such policy (in this case, I assume it's Vaya's tendency to lurk, especially early in games), then your vote loses all meaning. There are much better ways to make people and talk than "I'm voting you because you lurk a lot."


On a completely unrelated note, I'm not scum, but I am

extremely curious

to see what would happen if Snow were to use her ability on me.


And lastly, you all suck for making me post content this early in the game.

[Fishythefish]

A note to iec - typically, third party roles investigate as innocent to cops. I know this.

What happened to RVS?

My vote was never random.

Josh gives a potentially serious reason for his vote, and then distances from it. He's keeping his options open as to whether this is a random vote. His next two posts irk me, as well. They feel very like a totally unwarranted defense of Vaya.

unvote, vote: Josh

[Vala Mal Doran]

unvote

I refuse to be a part of such an early wagon. D:

[Glork]

Unvote, Vote: Josh

I refuse NOT to be part of such an early wagon!

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote, Vote Vala

Why not participate in a wagon on the most scummiest person so far?

[Glork]

Unvote, Vote Vala

Why not participate in a wagon on the most scummiest person so far?

Why vote Vala if you think SSK is the "most scummiest" person so far?

[Glork]

And by SSK, I meant Josh.

[SocioPath]

So, scums out there, I have this wonderful ability that turns scum into town. So, who's scum? Let me help you. It's totally free.

I think Snow Bunny just claimed Cult Recruiter.

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

Lyman's coddling of Vaya is off putting. Extreme early sheltering.

[UncertainKitten]

IIIIIIIII know what it means.



But I'm not gonna say.

Is it "spirit of the game" reasons, or just "I feel like being a jerk" reasons?

How helpful Glork is!

He's burdened by proficiency.

Pome voted you because of your strange confirm. UK also had a strange confirm. I asked her if there was a reason she chose you over him. She took me a bit too literally and just said "No."

You're playing open source mafia and you can't read command line!? Ye Gods!

So, scums out there, I have this wonderful ability that turns scum into town. So, who's scum? Let me help you. It's totally free.

The sad part is, given the theme,

I could actually see this.

So...I'm basically all for scum claiming at this point to be converted by s_b

On a completely unrelated note, I'm not scum, but I am extremely curious to see what would happen if Snow were to use her ability on me.

Heh, I was actually thinking along similar lines, but would just prefer to do this the easy way.

I think Snow Bunny just claimed Cult Recruiter.

Cult recruiter that...recruits...mafia? That's...different.

Sadly,

I could see that as well

, given the theme.

/me sighs.

I...um...really don't know what to do right now. I'd rather not vote s_b, for some reason I'm not feeling the whole Lyman is defending Vaya thing, but maybe that's cause I skimmed, and I don't like policy lynches :S...

I'll reread the Josh thing and decide if it merits my vote.

[UncertainKitten]

Yeah, not seeing it. It feels like something I'd do as town if people were trying to lynch a player I hadn't played with before on policy. Hell, even if I had played with that player before I'd be leery of policy attacks. Oh hey, I am.

Eh, why not

Unvote, Vote AlmasterGM

for being lazy and not, yanno, scumhunting.

[Iecerint]

The organization of your confirm certainly made sense, but that didn't keep it from being odd. Also, whether I recognized it was irrelevant to determining why Pome did what she did.

I haven't (to my knowledge) played with about half the player list, so I can assure you that not-knowing-JL is not the basis of my vote. I also don't really understand your insinuation that town players like to lynch unfamiliar players by policy.

I think players should stop pestering Glock.

[UncertainKitten]

I haven't (to my knowledge) played with about half the player list, so I can assure you that not-knowing-JL is not the basis of my vote. I also don't really understand your insinuation that town players like to lynch unfamiliar players by policy.

Oh, I'm saying that John is defending someone he hasn't played with before from a policy lynch. Something I've been known to do as town. So I don't see it as a scumtell like everyone else does.

I wasn't saying that town likes to lynch unfamiliar players by policy, what I meant was that if I'm not familiar with a player, and someone else is, and is pushing their lynch on policy, I'm not likely to be happy with that.

[Iecerint]

Oh, I see. That makes sense.

I'm actually not concerned by his "defense" of Vaya. I wouldn't want to lynch Vaya for that reason, either. I am more concerned about his vote for Glock, the context of said vote, and his attempt to pass it off as random.

[AlmasterGM]

Eh, why not

Unvote, Vote AlmasterGM

for being lazy and not, yanno, scumhunting.

LOL.

[Iecerint]

A note to iec - typically, third party roles investigate as innocent to cops. I know this.

Ya, but given that you have claimed Miller and have 3rd party-ish flavor, it's impossible that you are checks-innocent-3rd. Or at least rather unlikely.

[UncertainKitten]

I'm actually not concerned by his "defense" of Vaya. I wouldn't want to lynch Vaya for that reason, either. I am more concerned about his vote for Glock, the context of said vote, and his attempt to pass it off as random.

I noticed that, but it also doesn't concern me. It felt like a "mostly RVS with a hint of serious'd" vote was meant to be conveyed, and done decently.

LOL.

Well, I never said it was a particularly GOOD vote ^-^;

[Josh Lyman]

A note to iec - typically, third party roles investigate as innocent to cops. I know this.

Ya, but given that you have claimed Miller and have 3rd party-ish flavor, it's impossible that you are checks-innocent-3rd. Or at least rather unlikely.

Might I remind you this is a bastard game. NOTHING is impossible, and I

can't

won't say anymore about that right now.


Okay, yes, it WAS a random vote; none of the "reasons" I gave are real reasons. Back off, guys, it's just a game..... okay?

unvote

[UncertainKitten]

Unvote, Vote Josh

NOW, we get to problematic things. Why are you so worried about just a couple votes? You weren't really close to being strung up.

I don't see any reason you should have unvoted.

[Josh Lyman]

Unvote, Vote Josh

NOW, we get to problematic things. Why are you so worried about just a couple votes? You weren't really close to being strung up.

I don't see any reason you should have unvoted.

I unvoted because it was a random vote, and apparently the RVS stage is over.

[UncertainKitten]

I unvoted because it was a random vote, and apparently the RVS stage is over.

And you had no one else to vote? Why change your vote to nothing if there's no reason to change really? RVS doesn't have a clearly defined "over".

What it looks like to ME is backtracking after being called out on something, to be honest.

[Josh Lyman]

I unvoted because it was a random vote, and apparently the RVS stage is over.

And you had no one else to vote? Why change your vote to nothing if there's no reason to change really? RVS doesn't have a clearly defined "over".

What it looks like to ME is backtracking after being called out on something, to be honest.

I have no one sticking so far out on my radar that I'm willing to vote for them. Yet.

Are you always this aggressive this early? Especially over something so insignificant as an unvote of an admitted random vote?

[UncertainKitten]

I have no one sticking so far out on my radar that I'm willing to vote for them. Yet.

Are you always this aggressive this early? Especially over something so insignificant as an unvote of an admitted random vote?

Generally. I mean, generally a backtrack like that is big enough to get things moving. Admittedly, I don't have any data either way whether the backtrack is a scumtell. It's just that I'd think that scum would be more worried about appeasing the town and unvoting a random vote they were called out on as opposed to just being like "Ok, sorry, it was a random vote. I don't have anywhere else to put my vote at this time though"

But, I mean, you can meta me. You just have to look more for forbiddanlight to find completed games though.

[Josh Lyman]

So, if I remove my *random* vote (which has no weight anyway, by definition), but I don't place it anywhere else, is this better or worse than if I hadn't ever placed a random vote in the first place?