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Depends, is your meat healthy? I refrain from consuming hormone-treated cattle productsRosso Carne wrote:
are you pretty?springlullaby wrote:Is it the random vote stage yet?
Vote: Rosso Carne
Mmmmh, red meat!
Well, it would also depends on what's on offer, but hey, look at you, fishing already?Simenon wrote:
If we decided it wasn't the random vote stage anymore, would you still vote?Is it the random vote stage yet?-
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Bah, dunno, seemed customary. I thought fishing meant trying to make someone say something using a pretext. But maybe I'm wrong?Simenon wrote:
So, if we decided it wasn't the point in the game where we make meaningless votes, and you didn't think anybody was scummy, you wouldn't vote?Well, it would also depends on what's on offer, but hey, look at you, fishing already?
If your vote was meaningless, why make it in the first place?
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This is not an usual game, an infected townie do not only die, they also gain the power of deciding who to get rid of next. It is best to lynch scum of course, but it isn't exactly bad to infect a vanilla townie such as myself as town will get a leverage they did not priorly have, especially given the uncertainty of the moment due to this being day 1. Seeing that I find it strange that you keep harping me on my suspicions and do not see them for what they are.somestrangeflea wrote:
So what? If you are infected, you are dead. If you actually voiced reasons for suspecting others, then we'd be able to kill them off instead of you.springlullaby wrote:SSF, at L-1 of becoming infected, and thus of gaining the final say in who to infect next, I believe it is my prerogative as a townie to voice capricious suspicions which needn't obey to more than my fancy.-
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I'm no longer at L-1 but my offer still stands. I'm okay with killing any of my three top suspects.
Something I want to point out.
The 'democracy' to 'autocracy' bit is crap, town needs to see that right now.
a) Whether we like it or not, this game is about autocracy, day one is only a brief respite.
b) Concept such as 'good tyrant' exists, having a good absolute ruler presents advantages and certainly leverage. Not wanting to make the best out of it would be dim.-
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Bah, that's flaccid leadership. Or are you under some kind of restriction? Or are you scum who didn't seriously plan to get infected?
Anyway.
I think somestrangeflea is scum.
1) Repeatedly discussing the merits of democracy is like repeating how truffles and pheasants are delicious when you are perfectly aware that you'll only be able to afford hotdogs for the rest of your life = irrelevant, unhelpful noise
2) He thinks we should hit scum (how original) yet in his post voting me, nothing is there to explain how I am scummy.
I think he has been arguing over that autocracy/democracy thing because he didn't properly think it through before aquiescing to someone else said and now have to save face. And I think he voted for me because of DGB's proposition.
Someone asked me earlier why I choose Psychocide, I choose him because he was not contributive, avoid pronouncing himself about me, and I found it strange that he didn't even ask why he was up there in my list.-
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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 266#944266somestrangeflea wrote:Question: Do we still have no idea what how the mouse actually worked? Personally, I think it was just a flavoured up "plurality deadline lynch", but meh...
Rest of your life, maybe. But yesterday, wespringlullaby wrote:Repeatedly discussing the merits of democracy is like repeating how truffles and pheasants are delicious when you are perfectly aware that you'll only be able to afford hotdogs for the rest of your life = irrelevant, unhelpful noisecouldafford truffles and pheasants. You were busy trying to convince us that just giving up and moving onto the hotdogs before we'd had a chance to take a pick of the pheasants and truffles was actually agood move.
Never did I try to convince people that contaminating a townie was a good move, simply that it wasn't a disastrous one. And the argument actually started when you stated that hotdogs had no merits whatsoever, and when I disagreed. (I hereby resolve to never use food analogies in a mafia game ever again.)
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OH MY GOD. YOU'RE RIGHT. HOW FOOLISHLY REPETITIVE OF ME TO HAVE A PRO-TOWN ATTITUDE WHICH ALL GOOD TOWNIES HAVE HAD BEFORE. CLEARLY, THE SMART MOVE HERE IS TO TAKE AN ANTI-TOWN, WHICH NO TOWNIES SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE...springlullaby wrote:He thinks we should hit scum (how original)
Uhm...
Because you say so?
Are you deliberatly sidestepping the issue?springlullaby wrote: He thinks we should hit scum (how original)yet in his post voting me, nothing is there to explain how I am scummy.
You're not scum because you 'lose the argument', but because you kept missing the point and making whitenoise, leading me to think that you just didn't think it through but still kept arguing just to save face, which is definitively scummy.ssf wrote:
You think I think I have lost this argument.springlullaby wrote:I think he has been arguing over that autocracy/democracy thing because he didn't properly think it through before aquiescing to someone else said and now have to save face.
Which makes me scum, why?
But to your credit and upon re-verification, you were actually the one to start that argument, and it was dahen who agreed with you without much substance to back his opinion- not the other way round as I remembered.
Surely if my vote were something to do with a dislike of DGB's proposition, I'd have voted for... uhm... DGB maybe?[/quote]springlullaby wrote:And I think he voted for me because of DGB's proposition.
Well, seeing that DGB's proposition was to lynch you or The Jester, if I were scum I would have tried to not appear OMGUSy.
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UltimaAvalon wrote:
Why are we ghosts?Skruffs wrote:
Player List:
- Rosso Carne
*dahen
*DragonsofSummer
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*Simenon
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Battle Magesomestrangeflea
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*UltimaAvalon
Black= Alive and Healthy
Green= Infected
Blue= Dead and Town
Red= Dead and Evil
White= A ghost! D:
Purple= ???
Someone doesn't read flavor text much...
Doesn't make sense to me though.Skruffs wrote:Shoving DrippingGoofball aside, (and cinematically into a large bag of non-dairy creamer. Poof! Everyone's a ghost!) BattleMage launches himself between the squealing DragonsOfSummer and the Contagious Phlegm. It splatters him, instead, and he immediately falls to the ground, flailing and twitching.
So now we have an antidote and a tank of non dairy creamer which turns everyone into ghosts.
I'm thinking the ghost thing is a masking ability of some sort. Could be either protown or scum. It seems that BM caused it as he was the one to push everyone into the mess.
I second request on more information about the antidote from DoS: assuming scum stole the third of the antidote from you, I would say they already know everything about it.
I'm not sure why BM would want you to reveal your partner though, and why is he asking for trust instead of explaining the reason he should do so.
DGB:springlullaby wrote:
I did no say that. Please explain why out of 3 suspects you left SSF out.DrippingGoofball wrote:My choice:
vote 1: Psychocide
vote 2: The Jester
'cuz lullaby said so.
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Interesting development. I feel kinda left out of the exciting stuff.
Questions that need to be answered:
1. What is the purpose of the vaccine. How does it work?
2. UA, during which rush to safety did you pick up the vaccine? How did you acquire it - was it from an active ability? You're not town, I suggest you opt for total honesty if you expect clemency.
Appeal to sarcasm you mean. The non dairy creamer which turned everyone into ghost thing.Battle Mage wrote:
Appeal to Authority. What yogurt thing?springlullaby wrote:Haven't changed sir, my three top suspects are BM; Psychocide and The Jester.
Want to explain the yogurt thing?
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Strange, the color status changed. Maybe it's just flavor.Skruffs wrote: Player List:
- Rosso Carne
*dahen
*DragonsofSummer
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*Psychocide
*Simenon
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Black= Alive and Healthy
Green= Infected
Blue= Dead and Town
Red= Dead and Evil
White= A ghost! D:
Purple= ???
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Because I feel like being the only one trying to play this game and figuring things out.Simenon wrote:Hi. I was town. And a townie. Like I claimed.
DGB is correct. One of TheJester and skitzer is dieing in 48 hours. Throw in springlullaby for good measure.
Please tell me why you shouldn't die.
DoS, did you get the vaccine?
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Alright I'd like to know your thoughts on the following.
First time this vaccine business was brought up:
Then UA intervenes:DragonsofSummer wrote:Does everyone agree that I should reveal my Mason buddy?
Btw BM thanks for taking the phlegm.
I will reveal more about my role right now though. I am a scientist, me and my mason partner each have 1/3 of anantidoteto the plague but a 3rd person stole the last part of it from us. We win when the threat of the virus is neutralized.
After UA's post you fall into the use of the word vaccine too.UltimaAvalon wrote: That bit about the stolenvaccineis interesting though. Do you know if you can recover it/how to recover it/what happens when you do?
UA's cardflip conform to his claim.
The mod use the word vaccine.
Thing is, antidote and vaccine are two different things. Antidote suggests a cure (revive), vaccine suggests immunity.
What do you think?
Also now that dahen and you are claimed, maybe you won't mind participating more.-
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If you have motives to suspect me, state them so I can respond. I tried to scumhunt, I tried figure out the ghost thing and the vaccine thing. I'm not apathetic and I feel like I'm the only one genuinely intrigued and amused by the happenings.
Anyway, back to the vaccine business.
Existence of the vaccine has been confirmed by UA's cardflip and the mod. Since nothing bad has happened to me yet, and since DoS and dahen seem genuinely clueless as to how to acquire the vaccine, I'm inclined to believe they don't have nefarious motives.
And since vaccine sounds like a good thing, I'm gonna try the following but you all are expressively forbidden to make fun of me if it doesn't work.
Springlullaby gives the vaccine instructions to DragonofSummer.-
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dahen, I spotted the inconsistency. That's way I asked DGB to describe what would happen if she dayvig someone. She never did properly answer that question.
I think she should dayvig The Jester now, to prove the new version of her claim, since with his last message I'm pretty sure Jester is scum.
Anyway, I think town won no matter what at this point, unless there is some deus ex machina surprise game mechanic/role.
Even if we had 3 scum, it would be a draw.-
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Why would be dayvigging you be stupid if it was possible?
Since I think you are scum, dayvigging you would be the right thing to do since you wouldn't infect scum no matter what.
Also, why are you wasting your time calling me dumb?
If you think I'm dumb and town, you have nothing to gain from ridiculing me. Explaining why I'm mistaken would be more helpful. I don't see why a non-oneshot vig would be broken, according to her she is limited as she would become infected herself, and if she is town, she wouldn't want to shot haphazardly anyway.
Link to your claim please? If you mean your claim of weak scientist in 393:
1) I believe the first infection by the mouse was a deadline infection, since Rosso never reached majority.Asking confirmation by mod please
Confirmed! ~mod
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Answer to skitzer on dahen and DoS: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 201#991201
skitzer and DGB are the same to me.
Maybe skitzer being scummier because he has basically lurked the whole game without contributing useful stuff. DGB because I don't know, first she says that she is a suicidal vig (who upon vigging would cause 1) death of the present infected character 2)death of the vigged target 3) her own infection) - then she vigs someone and doesn't die, and then claims 'oops misread pm'.
DoS and dahen goes after you three, they claimed in together. See above for why I'm inclined to believe they are town.-
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Why is it impossible for only one of them to be scum?skitzer wrote:
This might be minor miswording, but why would only one claimed mason be scum? I don't think one is scum and the other would claim along with them. Either they are both scum or neither is scum.springlullaby wrote:I picked up the vaccine by pure coincidence. DoS answer this please, did you know how to pick it up?
From my perspective, if TheJester is not scum and if skitzer is not scum, thenat least one of the claimed mason is scumbecause I highly doubt there is only one scum.
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I've seen game where mason groups had a scum amongst them. In that configuration, it is only logical for the scum to claim alongside the other masons.skitzer wrote:Can you tell me how it is possible? And why the other person would claim alongside them?
I also said that I would consider this possibility only if two out of you three (Jester, skitz, DGB) non-masons cardflip town.
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Me (town) infect > scum, who infects > town, who infects> scum = everyone is Le Dead = tiedahen wrote: Please explain. I disagree. Pretend you are town and DGB and DoS are scum together. No matter who you infect in that case, I can't see how I would be able to stop them from winning.
Anyway, I'm town and this game is still running so I know scum haven't win yet. Or do you know something I don't?
DGB, who do you think I should infect in case there is only one scum?
DoS, Dahen, I'm not liking how you are both sticking together, I think if I were in your place I would admit that the chance my mason partner may be scum are not so low anymore.
One scum with a oneshot kill? I don't see how it makes sense.-
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Be nice with me or I'll infect you out of spite, there was a 'you idiot' somewhere lurking behind the words in that last post.
To answer your question, 1) I can think about a hundred theory with two scums that would make sense now and still make for a balanced game, the only limit is my imagination, or rather the mod's 2) I think it's weird of you to press for a one scum theory and point so insistently at DGB now because if you really thought your theory is the best one, then you wouldn't mind so much me potentially infecting one of you masons, because you could then infect her after I pass anyway. What do you think.
DoS, you've been in wishy-washy land all day, plus some 'don't infect me please', I'd like to get something more out of you.
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Lol, nice to see you aim to please. Right, I'll be infecting dahen in 48hours, if you have anything to say against that idea, last chance is now.dahen wrote:Sorry for not being nice, it's just that it seemed that you were just lazy and not reading my posts, and by that I felt I had wasted my time trying to explain. I was frustraded and I apologize for letting it shine through in my post.-
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Hello, been too busy to post
The dahen thing was a test, I haven't actually reached any decision yet, here is what I'm really thinking.
Confirmed poweroles:
- town martyr
- neutral survivor
- town weakling
Alive:
- day kill power - claimed oneshot vig
- 2 masons - both claimed town
- me, vanilla scientist
Conclusion: if DGB were the only scum, the game would be frigging unbalanced, and even if it was the case, me not infecting her at this point wouldn't lose the game as the next person can still do it.
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this is true, which leads me to believe that the vaccine being the key is also very probable.dahen wrote:If what you are saying here is correct, then a one-man mafia could NEVER win the game, since he/she would always be infected in the end.
Then, if DGB being the only scum scenario is unlikely and the plain tie scenario doesn't work, which scenario would work?
Here is what I think is the most likely: whoever is in possession of the vaccine is immunized against the virus. Masons can reunite the vaccine and put it to use but one of the mason is scum and holding the vaccine back.
Does me not wanting to infect DGB makes sense now?
Now here is something which has also been trotting in the back of my mind: what if there is no scum at all and that we could stop the infection from spreading simply by refusing to infect anyone? Thoughts?-
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