~laundry~ FIN

[Andrius]

I feel like gerry has an important scum role and he claimed without pressure to avoid getting pressure in the first place. On another site where I play Mafia, as an example, a scum with a one shot assassination would often claim something super important just to ensure they live one day and get their shot off at night (there, assassins are an extra kill that can't be stopped by any means).

He's emulating stubbornness in order to avoid having to worry about fleshing out his claim since he figured he would have been fine with just a Mason sound claim to begin with and wasn't banking on actual Masons existing in the game.

I'd buy it.

[Andrius]

Plus Tammy is going to give me pointers in the Mason thread for reading Nacho if she just so happens to die before me.

I'll be honest - I expect you to die first.

I could get on board now with lynching Gerry and leashing creature to watch me.

If Gerry is town and telling the truth, all he has to do is claim. That's it.

This.

[Andrius]

Vote: Gerry

Will swing to Creature again if needed.
Tammy, join us!

[Andrius]

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

[Andrius]

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

So what makes you think he's actually going to help us out later?
He's going to continue doing his own thing and there are zero indications he will play with the town's well-being in mind.

[Andrius]

Like, if I stab out Gerry tonight no one should complain because while he may be town his projected usefulness is near 0% and I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

Unvote, Vote: Creature

[Andrius]

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

Nah, I still think the chances of him being scum hiding behind this and the bevvy of players being all HIS ATTITUDE MAKES HIM TOWN are decent. Scum lynch always preferred.

And I don't see anything that will change how he plays. Will he wake up tomorrow with a better attitude? Is someone going to target him with a GET A BETTER ATTITUDE action? No.

[Andrius]

Like, if I stab out Gerry tonight no one should complain because while he may be town his projected usefulness is near 0% and I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

Unvote, Vote: Creature

dont do that, you're better off lynching me.

THE HELL IS THIS

[Andrius]

I'm fine with being lynched, but vigging is bad. trust me

Man I said I wanted to vig you and then Zack reminded me he was alive.

[Andrius]

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

Nah, I still think the chances of him being scum hiding behind this and the bevvy of players being all HIS ATTITUDE MAKES HIM TOWN are decent.

WHO ARE ALL THESE PLAYERS

WHO ARE THEY

NAME THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER

Ser Arthur Dayne
You

Their magnitude is increased by the desperation of the close-to-deadline-ness and the missing players.

[Andrius]

SAD is generally regarded as town among town.
You're somehow townread by enough people to prevent your lynch.

[Andrius]

hey I'm not a good vig target..

I'm getting tired of hearing this.

[Andrius]

Is someone going to target him with a GET A BETTER ATTITUDE action? No.

Oh my god I died laughing.

ty bae

[Andrius]

No I'm just going to get frustrated and shoot you regardless.

[Andrius]

If andy really is a vig, we're going to have to figure out a way for him not to vig my cop check.

No I'm just going to get frustrated and shoot you regardless.

Why would you do such a not town thing?

You guys really have a hard time reading between the lines.

[Andrius]

I guess the only argument I can see about Gerry is that he has an important scum role and is just looking to buy time to live a little longer to make use of that role.

I mean, Toogeloo just did this in The Thing Mafia months ago.
So, yes, I see this argument as being significant.

[Andrius]

Do you really think he's gonna go the whole game with no claiming.

oh hell yes he's going to go the whole game with no claiming
if and when the wagon starts up again it's going to be "fuck you guys lynch me you're the worst town i've ever seen and i've seen like a thousand towns"

if he's town, which is unfortunately possible, it's because he isn't willing to admit that he fucked up and lied (horribly misread but probably just lied)
if he's scum it's because he doesn't have anything to claim because he fucked up

This is basically how I see him playing the game.

[Andrius]

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p8802274]

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

[/quote]
I think I'll be sticking with Creature for now.

[Andrius]

Frogger do you have a recent VC?
If we're going to make something happen we need to see the table.

[Andrius]

Agree with what Pine's saying - at this juncture I think there's enough people missing/staying on their vanity wagons to, collectively, prevent us from doing things.

[Andrius]

I am seriously questioning the Mason claim.

I mean, I know THE ONLY INNOCENTS ARE BODIES but that doesn't mean they're scum.

[Andrius]

Vote: Nachomamma8

I filled out the survey.
I submitted six kills last night and none of them died. This is a breadcrumb to the now two living people who will understand it.

I should also mention that I, Errantparabola, have a second passive besides for the M-word one and am likely competing against the Masons to see who can live the longest (due to the flavor).

[Andrius]

tomorrow if I'm dead

If creature town -> sly
If creature scum -> Nacho

RIP FROGGER

[Andrius]

Vote: Nachomamma8

I filled out the survey.
I submitted six kills last night and none of them died. This is a breadcrumb to the now two living people who will understand it.

I should also mention that I, Errantparabola, have a second passive besides for the M-word one and am likely competing against the Masons to see who can live the longest (due to the flavor).

What in the hell are you talking about?

I cannot explain further, but you're one for whom this was meant.

The other already understands.

[Andrius]

I'm going to try and post less because another 160 pages sounds absolutely terrible.
Definitely scum in the lurkers at deadline.
Likely scum in the people trying to secure anyone but Creature's lynch.
I'd even start suspecting Tammy/Toog in a few days if one of them isn't dead because Toog fighting the Creature wagon was stupid as crap.

I, for one, will endeavor to not be an ass, namely to Gerry.

Also, SlySly, in honor of WINE NIGHTS:

Spoiler: I tried to make SlySly go pray for his stress relief. He wasn't having any of it.

[Andrius]

Nacho can be lynched today but maria is confirmed maf

Please explain.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2): Toogeloo, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

I gotta say, the SAD wagon hop was unexpected. And I know you did the same thing in DEFCON, defending a scumbag all of D1 to get quicklynched D2, but color me concerned.
The SlySly wagon likely has scum on it.
Sly is town and Toog is a mason so unless SHENANIGANS then the Gerry wagon is clear.
Fire voting DESPERADO is stupid AND I distinctly remember he showed up and started posting everywhere on the site IMMEDIATELY after the lynch. Can we get him to post before deadline? No. Does he show up afterwards like nothing happened? Yep.

[Andrius]

I lied about my role

I am 0% surprised.

and you're now claiming role info on maria?

I would really love to hear an explanation for this.

pedit: sigh.
I will now be operating under the pretense that Gerry is just making everything up in lieu of playing the game.
He's not even voting maria.
zzz

[Andrius]

I was a little miffed you were not around at deadline, and all of a sudden you showed up almost immediately afterwards posting everywhere.
I'm not saying SCUM I'm just saying these are my observations.

[Andrius]

I'm not expecting to argue; I'm stating the facts that people were missing at deadline and thus made it difficult to actually throw together a lynch; Toog voted someone he didn't want to and Tammy had to finally cast a vote in order for us to secure a lynch.
And yes, it was on scum so of course there will be resistance especially since Nacho was fighting the wagon AND SlySly's wagon was decently-sized before the swap.

[Andrius]

I TR Sly independent of his status as CW. Gerry as CW is much more vindicating.

This.

[Andrius]

I get a sneaking suspicion of Andy, but I'm electing to ignore it for now.

If you never talk to me about it you'll never get over it.

Seriously miller claim with a cop that dies on guilty results is super odd and questionable.

Maybe the Cop was designed to subvert the Miller?

Also apparently this game isn't role madness since creature regular goon?

Or is scumteam just super underpowered lmao

Your assumptions regarding this game are highly erratic, SAD.

[Andrius]

think we can lynch someone before hitting page 200?

CAN WE PLEASE?!

You're not even voting anyone.

Are you still scumreading Sly and I?

[Andrius]

The thing that makes me doubt on nacho being scum is that scum-nacho would've had the brains to buss earlier. And I mean MUCH earlier. Unless he just got hung up on the gerry thing and did it to pretend being busy while he thought no one was paying attention to him ignoring the larger wagons creature/sly.

You're assuming ScumNacho is caught up in the game, which REAL WORLD Nacho has clearly demonstrated he comes and goes and isn't here all the time.
Just saying.

[Andrius]

I get a sneaking suspicion of Andy, but I'm electing to ignore it for now.

If you never talk to me about it you'll never get over it.

I don't usually tolerate this kind of buddying, so I'm paranoid about it. I don't actually have any evidence against you.

Its not buddying, its me asking how are you going to resolve this besides sitting around watching me unless we talk this out?
No evidence is fine. So I'm guessing its gut?

Zack can be town I don't think two scum would've defended against my lynch. And for his defense against gerry wagon.

Go sell this crap somewhere else.

pedit: I hate to say it, SAD, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were scum. And, to be honest, I think that Tammy is more than capable of faking being mad at me as scum, especially if she's not in the thread all that much.

[Andrius]

Yeah, I was doubting the Mason claim too. I kind of got the impression that Tammy and Toog moved on Creature at the last minute because they couldn't justify not doing so.

I agree that what you're saying is potentially the case, but I think it was more begrudgingly moving to ensure a lynch.
I mean, Toog was against the Creature wagon and voted at deadline. Tammy showed up out of nowhere and voted as well.
Which makes me think that, if they are masons, she's probably more likely to be hiding out in the Mason PT than spending time in this thread.
Most of this is idle speculation, however.

Fair enough.
I won't press it further. I haven't forgotten that you were all MAYBE on me D1 too, though.

If you want to lynch Maria, you will do it without me.

[Andrius]

Spoiler:

Gerry probably doesn't have a guilty or any sort of result. After the events of D1, why is anyone taking his claims seriously?

[Andrius]

Spoiler:

Gerry probably doesn't have a guilty or any sort of result. After the events of D1, why is anyone taking his claims seriously?

maybe, wouldn't surprise me.
he is still town though.

Never said he was scum.
Only saying he's crying wolf.

[Andrius]

Unvote, Vote: Zack

Nacho demonstrates, once again, that he is on his game when he's caught up.

Also Pine you saved my bacon last night.

Spoiler:

[Andrius]

Spoiler: Tammy

words

Look. I'll keep this brief.

I believe you're town, though I know the only innocents are bodies.
You're a mason claim with 0 dead masons, which is good enough for a while.
I've lost a game to fakeclaiming masons who were even counter-claimed by actual masons.
Again, this isn't anything personal. I don't know why this is consistently the first place you jump to but w/e.
My complete thoughts are here should the worst happen.

Would you rather have me sit here and pretend everything's kosher?

And just because nacho force fed you that theory that made everything make sense, it's bloody obvious you thought it up after the that were your actual theory, if that really was what it was, you wouldn't have needed it force fed to you, you'd have been able to explain in AND if it weren't personal you wouldn't have told nacho it was about who was joining the moist game, you know if it were anyone but me having fun you wouldn't have flicked.

And if it weren't that you wouldn't have jumped to the absolute first chance you had to reignite an argument with an oh I I wouldn't put it past her to fake it. FUCK. YOU.

I don't follow the Nacho theory thing.

Not trying to reignite an argument.

I currently have no interest in explaining why they are town because it's a royal waste of my time; all reasons for pushing them (they didn't push the Creature lynch as fervently as we did! or Tammy faked her anger about me!) are dumb.

Look, brother, I agree. They're likely town.
But we both know the only innocents are bodies.

And if he's town, he'll listen to me and he will go through me before he reignites this stupid paranoia yet again.

I never planned on doing anything with it.
Its there in the incredible off-chance this is
a) some super scum gambit
b) I'm not around to fight it

The fact none of the masons died is what shocks me (don't tell me it's so scum could try to frame them I'll laugh in your face)

killing a cop over a mason seems like a no brainer to me

This.

Wait am I seriously supposed to believe some people didn't read the cop claim?

Apparently reading the game is overrated?

I believe that Firebringer is very likely to be town; his play here looks mor e like Fire Assassin in the Thing play than I've seen him play elsewhere and again don't think that he's capable of faking this as town. Maria would be an additional townread; everyone else I'd be comfortable killing.

You mean to tell me you read THE THING?

[Andrius]

Why did frogger even claim. did he even have a wagon on him

I was threatening to shoot him.

[Andrius]

You mean to tell me you read THE THING?

no, he didn't read the thing.
He is making shit up.

Let the man answer.

[Andrius]

wait. what the fuck, Andrius why did you not shoot anyone.

because he can't. its obvious andrius was faking.

Give the man a prize.

[Andrius]

I never planned on doing anything with it.
Its there in the incredible off-chance this is
a) some super scum gambit
b) I'm not around to fight it

I see a very large problem in that most people right now are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
I think that "Tammy and Toogeloo might be scum!" speculation is tilting at windmills at this point in time and I don't think that it's a productive move to make.

I don't see anyone making a move.
SAD and I have voiced concerns which are valid.
Were you in the hydra with me when Fate and RBT faked Masons as scum? Or was that Gandalf?

Yes, if someone actually advocates for the lynch of a mason today they should be censured and/or die.
But no one's making that move and I don't think scum's stupid enough to make that move especially after the Creature death D1.

[Andrius]

I don't remember playing with mcmenno though, so I don't know what to expect from him.

I would be 0% surprised if Menno bussed Creature.
I liked the early material but Menno has done little since then.
I think it would not be out of character to drop something like that and then leave it the rest of the day.
Especially since Creature was not certain for death until literally 3 hours from deadline.

[Andrius]

Though if Gerry comes from a homesite and has more experience than here then he is more suspicious. I was looking at him and his behavior as being snot nosed noob. If he's not, then I can see that from scum.

I found this that might help:

Subject: Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

Hello this is my first ever game on mafiascum, so please be gentle lol.

I am not new to forum maf

, though so things should be fine. It seems like I've missed a lot already. It took like an hour to find out how to find the thread on here since things are confusing. Once I finish rereading all 8 pages, I'll give my initial reads. But, from what I remember from another site i'm on, the first couple pages are mostly joke votes and such. Either way I'll post again soon.

Bold is mine.

[Andrius]

Still think he's town.

[Andrius]

Still think he's town.

He might be town, but I will hammer and gladly lynch that wagon if it ever becomes a thing and will not care. He is a detriment to town no matter his alignment.

Look, I agree with you but buy SAD's argument that he's just mad because we have a very strong culture here at MS and I think his playstyle/personality don't vibe with what we're doing.
I'm not saying he's an ass or we're holy bread or anything but there's obviously a massive clash and its not helping this at all.

That being said I did submit a kill on him last night, so no, I would not be sad if he died.
(For the unattentive reader: submitting a kill and having a kill are two very different things. I am not a six-shot-per-night vigilante.)

[Andrius]

How exactly does force-replacing work.
If PLAYER A causes PLAYERS B and C to replace out can the mod just force-replace PLAYER A to keep the other two?

[Andrius]

There is a very simply explanation for this, SAD.

Spoiler: BREADCRUMBS AHOY

We were pushing up claims on FB, who claimed PR; Gerry, who claimed PR; Sly, who claimed PR; and Creature, who claimed PR.
As Sly noted, I offered myself up as an alt wagon in the event that people did not want to lynch any of the claimed PRs to attempt to let it sort itself out.

If you still don't follow, there's a post of Sly's that spells this out beautifully.

[Andrius]

At the time, I could also name at least six people EASILY who would vote me for being scum.
Toog, Zack, Gerry, drealmerz, You, Frogger or Desp. Its been so long I can't remember which. Fire scumread me at one point, Toog could surely rally Tammy, especially given our rocky game.
Pine has been going MAYBE with regards to me all game.

[Andrius]

My confusion stemmed largely from THE THING where he did next to nothing all game and plied away at his own trade, engaging as he willed in an almost-Tammy style where he had 2 maybe three reads when we killed him for his PR. He said he was less active in larges and someone corroborated that though I can't recall if it was THE THING or

another

. He was in STRAHD as well and was killed N1. He did his little reads dance and called people scum but was overall low-impact, though maybe that's more of the clash of the personalities and less of him lurking.

pedit: Still works for me.

[Andrius]

That wasn't meant to be negative, Tammy.
You take time to build up steam, Creature felt very similar that game where he was slowly building his reads on his own schedule and then we murdered him for his role.

[Andrius]

Ok.

[Creature, Firebringer, SlySly] were all (temporarily) with me in a game that is now over.
I think Firebringer is town because his attitude of I DONT APOLOGIZE and I PLAY MY OWN GAME make good sense with what I've seen there, especially in the conversation we had after the incident in which [Creature, Fire, Myself] were force-replaced from the game. Creature was close to zero-involvement there too.

The Friendly Serial Killer schtick I used D1 after SAD called me a SK was something I used there as well.
Now that the game is over we can talk about it and I have no more secrets.

[Fire, Creature, Sly] should also know my role based on things that were said in this thread and related play.

[Andrius]

My super hawt take is that zach is scum

This is super hawt.

I'm not sure I've actually seen Creature as scum before - he was technically town in STRAHD, town in Undertale, town in The Thing, and I think that's it for games with [Creature, Andrius] in them.

Spoiler: For Sly and Pine

CLERIC PINE
CRUSADER SLYSLY
HIGHWAYMAN ANDRIUS
and HELLION UK

We cleared the first Darkest Dungeon mission with no casualties. gg mabs

pedit: what is it now, sad

[Andrius]

This ought to be good...It better be

No the revelation is Slysly is scum...

Disappointed.
I was expecting some BREAKTHROUGH or something.
But no. Just more words.

See you tomorrow.

[Andrius]

We need more emo

[Andrius]

VOTE: Zach
Highkey forgot about pines super deper role idk if he'd be like that at the start of the game is giving me slightly cold feet

This is also super hawt.
More zack votes pls.

[Andrius]

My heart is not in mafia right now.
I am here, however.

Also if the town in this town would act like frickin town, maybe we'd be able to differentiate between town and scum, but as long as town act like honorary members of the scum team or just plain anti town that's not going to be as likely. Make the scum work harder geeze.

Getting pissy because people think your scum and acting towards a scum agenda doesn't make you look town

You're trying to make a point here but I'm not getting it.
What are you trying to say?
If this isn't addressed to me then not responding is ok.

Again just have fun.

Troll post every other or something

Troll posting negatively impacts the game by artificially increasing the post count, making it harder for people to catch up and stay on top of the game.
Ten pages a day gets old real fast.

SAD.
You call yourself a prodigy and you give us #4781? I'm disappointed.
That's like, my level of play.
Get off my level.

the back where people obviously bussed

The back also consisted of TOOG and TAMMY and thus there's not much to look at there.

[Andrius]

He's my scumbro and I don't want to bus today

I translated that from scum to English for you.

This is how I read it too.

[Andrius]

And Nacho, Andy.

I haven't forgotten.

[Andrius]

Andy how dare you let me die...

Darling, I died at your side.
Nothing much that could have been done. That fight went from 100% Winnable to holy crap real quick.

SlySly and Sister Pine are rushing to avenge our unfortunate deaths though.

[Andrius]

Firebringer died but he came back from the dead.
There's hope you might get the chance as well.

And yes, I know.

[Andrius]

Spiffeh's not in this game tho.
What is this, some sort of hybrid of this game and THE THING?

[Andrius]

I see I am in a pair with Pine.
This is acceptable.

[Andrius]

This is why we lynch all the millers.

[Andrius]

Sly.
Want to have a drink with me?

[Andrius]

Well, revenge has not yet been had.
But wine has been poured.

[Andrius]

Did Firebringer loverize you or something?

Cheers indeed!

[Andrius]

Sly I don't know what Rico Suave is but I'm not ok lynching Maria rn so there's that if my opinion matters to you in this matter.

Drealm, don't you scumread both Sly and I?

[Andrius]

She was very cool under pressure.
And then THE PROPHET dropped a metric ton of RUBBLE on her head and she died.
And then I fought back and dropped him to 11HP.
And then he dropped rubble on my head and I died.
And that was that.

[Andrius]

I agree that FB's town.
We had an exchange after being force-replaced in Undertale, and his posting here on a few key things has reminded me of that exchange.
I'm leaning scum on nacho.
I hate to say it, brother, but I think Gerry is town, and Tammy/Toog are as well. I don't see them pulling a mason gambit fakeclaim, (especially Tammy). Toog's a bit more whimsical.
I mean, I wouldn't be SURPRISED if any of those three flipped scum, but I think they're town for our purposes.

[Andrius]

Toog's a mason.
Plain and simple.
And Toog said in the Thing PT that he's very hit/miss when it comes to scum. Either he wins games (Hypnotists) or is lynched early (The Thing).

[Andrius]

4846 was meant for drealmer.
My apologies. Beta testing and drinking wine and mafia don't mix well.

[Andrius]

Maria, we were avenged.

And after they avenged us, Firebringer and Untrod Tripod II subbed out for Pine and Stiofain and took down the little-known event boss.

[Andrius]

Tammy.
Would you like to connect sometime?
I know you have Boogeloo to chat with but if you need another connection im here.

I could lynch nacho at this juncture.

Maria, everything is not right. You died. UK died. SAD almost died. Going to have a wine night and fight off THE WOLVES tonight.

[Andrius]

Oh, hi, I didn't think you were still around.

[Andrius]

Yeah I dont mean now. Im busy for a bit

[Andrius]

Why does Nacho defend creature so hard and then bus anyway?

playing devil's advocate here: He realizes the lynch is inevitable and decides its better to be on than off.

Give this man a prize.

[Andrius]

My wagon was after yours, SAD.
IIRC

[Andrius]

My wagon was after yours, SAD.
IIRC

I thought you had one before when you were making your big EP laundry room wall?

You were definitely first.
That's all I know.

[Andrius]

Something is definitely off.

Surrounding the balance of the game.

I'm starting to think it is 5 scum.

Really?
Your assumptions are still erratic and I don't think this is too far gone.
Whimsy? Yes.

Awesome. Strahdians in the house

There's only four of us?

[Andrius]

How is a discussion on numbers going to get us anywhere?
Its not.

sigh

I want Nacho or Zack lynched today.
For reasons previously stated.

I think there's enough people without drive this game to where the scum don't HAVE to do anything.
I think it is entirely reasonable to think that scum are on the first or second halves of the wagon. It is very easy as scum to vote a buddy and let it sit there all day, especially when Creature's lynch was not a GIVEN.
Second half is easy because 1) he was a goon and 2) it was shaping up at deadline and there was no consensus approaching deadline. There were a lot of people talking but no consensus until Creature was more of less CHOSEN by the influx of votes from Mason voters.

I'm not expecting to dominate this game or drive it at all but I think this needs a push and not in the form of MORE POSTS because that doesn't solve our problems.
I am trying to decrease my overall postcount going forward.

[Andrius]

I am against lynching Sly, Maria, Pine.
I am for lynching Nacho or Zack.
I think that's all the major wagons.

Spoiler: For Ser Arthur Dayne

[Andrius]

No matter how I spell it, it is a vote towards his death.
That is all I am concerned about.

[Andrius]

Votecount 2.7

Sometimes I wear clothes of indeterminate gender for the laundrogynous look.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

SlySly

(4): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8, MariaR

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, SlySly

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(1): Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

So in the interests of not having another drawn-out day phase where we deadline lynch (though we did hit scum), can we consider consolidating on the major wagons?
I'm not pretending to have any weight or SWORD THROWING abilities; I can't drive anything through with the fire within.

At the moment we're looking at a Sly/Nacho as the major wagon with Zach as a third route. I'm ignoring the one-votes because they're not going anywhere; (Desperado will move his vote, its only a matter of time; the Desp wagon is inconsequential and drealmerz is also likely scum). Tammy has indicated a scumread on Nacho so I'm going to pretend she's voting Nacho.

If the Zach wagon isn't going to happen, I'd be happy voting Nacho.

[Andrius]

SlySly

(6): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, dreal, SAD

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Tammy,

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, SlySly, Desp

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8

Andrius

[1] - MariaR

Not Voting

(0): 0

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

[Andrius]

SlySly

(5): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, dreal

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Tammy,

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, SlySly, Desp

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8

Andrius

[1] - MariaR

Not Voting

(0): 0

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Corrected.

[Andrius]

SlySly

(5): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, dreal

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Tammy

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius, SlySly, Desp

Pine

(1): Nachomamma8

Andrius

[1] - MariaR

Not Voting

(0): 0

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Corrected.

I am terrible at this.

[Andrius]

Pine, being an ass isn't going to win you any favors.

[Andrius]

There's a reason I'm scumreading Zach, SAD.
And his reactions haven't been town IMO.

This size of a wagon does not deserve this size of a reaction.

[Andrius]

RIP Toogeloo.
Anyone want to volunteer to be my new Man-at-Arms? >_____>

[Andrius]

I'm still alive??? :O

I will fill any role you need

You and Sister Pine are about to lead a venture to kill the Final Form of the Formless Flesh.
So, yes, you're alive. For now.

[Andrius]

You're already my Occultist. You're in the picture above.

[Andrius]

Congratulations, team. No one died!

Last time I did this one half the team died.
SAD spent probably 70% of the mission Guarding Tammy. drealm and Frogger did all the heavy lifting.

[Andrius]

Tombstone is a great movie.

Also, we were visited by OUR HERO in our time of need.
For SPYREX himself delivered the killing blow to the enemy. I beat the game. All those who fell in the line of duty (Kdub, Maria, Toog, Andrius, Untrod Tripod) have been avenged.

Ruin has come to our family.

[Andrius]

THE DEPLORABLES DO NOT GIVE IN TO FEAR

[Andrius]

Oh, and as scum it's something I could see him holding in his back pocket for a long, long time; there's weird pockets of Andrius suspicion that haven't been addressed anywhere at all and when Andrius is pushed into paranoia mode he tends to make himself mislynchable (and whether or not he's aware of this isn't as important as the weird pockets thing).

Pedit: If he was worried about being killed, then 1) he shouldn't be because he's hated, 2) he wouldn't be claiming PR in additional to hated, 3) he would be more shy about the hard scumreads on players like Maria and I. I don't think that's the case.

This is a very good point.

[Andrius]

Nacho, you make me want to lynch Pine.
As drastic as that seems.

[Andrius]

okay, go over why you hate this game.cause honestly i don't see a huge way in which this game is as bad as you are pretending it is.

See, I can totally see where Nacho's coming from.
We're over 200 pages on Day Two, there's a lot of frivolity going on which isn't necessarily a bad thing but there's not a lot of DRIVE to get anything done.
We went frantic at deadline yesterday. We have a lurker squad which comes and goes as it wills, contributing little to the game.

This game is definitely frustrating.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Sly
Eh I'll lynch this I guess Andy can go tomorrow

sigh

I'm almost hurt you're not more committed to me.

[Andrius]

H-hugs? W-who s needs those s-sound dumb.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Sly
Eh I'll lynch this I guess Andy can go tomorrow

sigh

I'm almost hurt you're not more committed to me.

After what happened in the thing I refuse to get emotionally attached

I guess I'll have to wait for you to roll scum and betray me in a game.
Don't that would make me want my heart back though.

[Andrius]

whats that from andrius?

Castle in the Sky

[Andrius]

I actually think Nacho and Pine and Zack are town. Or at least different shades of leaning-town. Weird :/

I'd bet one of them is scum.
Probably only one, but one.


pedit: Oh look, Zach is calling a wagon town again. What a surprise.

[Andrius]

Who's to say it's not already happening...

I don't think you're scum.
Granted, its D2, and the rationale for my read is a bit early, but I don't think that's the case here.
I have faith.

[Andrius]

You don't know when to quit.

I can quit when I die.

[Andrius]

Oh one day I want to flip scum in a playlist like this just so I can crush all your hopes and dreams smirking in my scum PT as everyone is in my pocket.

See, I think you

want

to be scum if only to attempt to crush my heart like yours was(?).

[Andrius]

I don't want to crush you Andy because I think you want me to crush you just so you think we'll be even.

I'd like to see what you'd do, as scum, with me around. I just don't see it this game.
I think you'd be trying harder to dupe me as scum (as if you're going to crush my heart you're going to want to shatter it into pieces in front of me) and manipulate me, neither of which I'm getting here.

I'm totally ok with both of us being town together though apparently I'm not worthy of being a Neighborizer or Masonizer or Seeking role or something so I can find you.
But I gotta admit, I think you being scum when I'm town would be a more interesting game for both of us.

[Andrius]

if you were lynching andrius that would be a good rebuttal but as it stands you're just sort of whispering into the wind

as you've been doing most of this game
only time you've shown life is when you're being pushed which is why most people would probably be okay with you being super dead

Accurate description of my thoughts.

[Andrius]

yeh maria is scum methinks with slysly and andrius

THAT IS ONE COOL AF SCUMTEAM SIGN ME UP BB

If only.

[Andrius]

I still feel like there's something missing nacho. :/

What's on your mind?
He feels more honest than he has been.
I mean this isn't something un-fake-able but w/e.

[Andrius]

Sly we are called STRAHDIANS or VAMPIRE HUNTERS.
It is a GLORIOUS TITLE worthy of praise.
For not all of us proved loyal, who do not deserve remembrance.
And not all of us survived, and those are ones we remember.

[Andrius]

this is starting to look multi-factional

call me when there's more than one nk

This.

moving goalposts

youve been doing that a lot this game sad

What does this mean.
Because I want to know.

[Andrius]

and he has done this several times regarding several issues

I have definitely noticed this.
Which was largely the reason I submitted a kill on him last night.

[Andrius]

Pine's still not lynched yet, Maria.

[Andrius]

I still feel like there's something missing nacho. :/

What's on your mind?
He feels more honest than he has been.
I mean this isn't something un-fake-able but w/e.

He's very good at sounding very honest when scum.

I feel the exact same way I felt in OOTS where nacho was scum. Exactly the same.

Well then that's that.
Launch the partyboat.

Vote: Nacho

[Andrius]

And how does that make you feel?

Does this affect your read on me or are you just bring critical?

I realize I'm not exactly driven right now.
That's all I'll say because any more words and people won't read them. zzz

[Andrius]

So, it happened.
I had the opportunity to bring one of three dead people back from the dead.
It was either TOOGELOO the MAN AT ARMS (who is the only MAA I have or had) or MARIA.

Spoiler:

I GAVE YOU MY HEART
AND YOU LIVED ON

When I said 'any more words' what it really means is complaining about the gamestate and I'm sure we don't need any more of that.

[Andrius]

Toogeloo was probably the smarter tactical choice, given I have zero Men-at-Arms alive, but once I saw your name show up I knew what my choice would be.

Also, this isn't pocketing or buddying. I'm not trying to get anything from posting these little things, but I'm hoping that maybe you all enjoy it a little.
Because while this game can be treacherous at times, I can still try to inject a bit of fun into the game.
In my experience, pocketing/buddying derives from trying to get something in return - buddying someone to get them to not vote you/vote with you/not kill you/crumb a result/etc.

That is not my intent.

[Andrius]

Spoiler: Not-Maria People

drealmerz had a Heart Attack, but SURVIVED miraculously.


UNTROD, however, wasn't so lucky, dying for the SECOND time.

[Andrius]

Spoiler: Here you go Andy

I'm joking about the pocket things of course

I didn't know. I'm, uh, pretty thick at times. I don't pick up subtlety well. Despite being The Baker. ^^;

[Andrius]

I really do enjoy those things they make me smile!

Then its all worth it.

I changed my avi to be more light hearted

This new one is definitely more light-hearted, but the whole white dress thing is rather sudden.

I think Pine is scum at the moment

I could buy this.

you could very well be scum to me all bias aside I haven't seen much that makes me tr you and with as much as you've posted that's worrying

I mean, I'm glad you're recognizing the bias.
I could definitely be doing more. I'm not sure how while still being both charitable and productive.
My heart isn't really with the game at times, though you still hold it.

I feel like if I was ever really scum with Andy we'd be act so fast cause our interactions would be awk af

I'd enjoy the opportunity, no matter how badly we play.
The Scum PT would definitely be a show for the interested reader.

[Andrius]

Nacho's words on Pine ring true for me.
I haven't forgotten Pine's long-standing paranoia of my slot that's not a scumread but is just paranoia. My silence is mainly due to the fact that I'll likely still be here to confront it whenever he decides to weaponized this because I'm thinking its more scum-motivated than not.

I ALSO wouldn't be surprised if Nacho's pushing Pine, as buddies, knowing that Nacho won't make it to endgame due to the wagons on him, Tammy and myself scumreading him, and his overall profile as a player. And his disinterest. I could see this as a bid to attempt to save Pine by his own death.

I don't like how SAD does some things but I really don't think this is scum-driven. Which is a tad frustrating but whatever.

Maybe I'll make a reads list.

pedit:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHATS WITH THE WINK
THERE'D BE WALLS OF GIFS
I think I'd be less surprised with a white/black dress or something that shows the duality you're trying to paint here. The whole stuttering/I WILL KILL YOU thing.

[Andrius]

I would never kill anyone y-you think I'm able to do such a cruel thing?

Actually killing people and threatening to kill people/ having a threatening personality are not the same.

[Andrius]

As for Maria I can't say the whole acting innocent gimmick makes her townie at all

That's not why she's town.
Despite my scumread on Nacho, he was right, you're only really concerned about the game as it pertains to wagons you're attempting to derail (namely your own). Calling people on your wagon dumb is pointless.

[Andrius]

THE WOLVES ARE AT THE DOOR

[Andrius]

VOTE: Zach
You know I love it when the fire dances in your eyes.

[Andrius]

THE WOLVES ARE AT THE DOOR

The unstoppable team of [Tammy, Fro99er, Ser Arthur, drealmerz7] once again destroyed a boss without taking a single loss.
Or anyone going insane.
gg

[Andrius]

VOTE: Nacho
Back to where I was before I got excited we might finally have a Zach wagon.
Still willing to help kill either of them.

[Andrius]

Andy Join the Zach wagon or I'll show you just how mean I can get.

I think this was the first time you've ever asked me to do something.

[Andrius]

And it was fake!
How tragic

Doesn't bother me none.

Although if I knew it was so easy to bend you to my will and do as I say I would've done so sooner

Now hold on there princess. I have always been ok with lynching Zach - its not like you got me to vote SLY or something.
I mean, yes, I answered your call.
But its not like you got me to vote a townread of mine.

[Andrius]

Is that a challenge?

If you want it to be!

[Andrius]

It feels like Mc Fire and Dreal are just coasting by tbh I hardly remember there here at times

My thing is, this isn't unexpected, its not alignment indicative, and its annoying, but there's little that can be done about it.
drealmerz is now a lean scumread.
FB is kinda floating along as a lean townread.
Menno could go either way. He's easytown for the Creature deal; I can see him bussing Creature and living off that cred for days though. Especially with a ton of other lynchables and his normal low-activity style.

[Andrius]

It's NAI yes but it's concerning we could have scum in those 3 and we wouldn't even know cause we aren't doing anything about it.

Exactly.
So I'm basically in this apathetic funk where I feel like the best way to address it, since there are other wagons, is to shoot/stab them overnight.

[Andrius]

My lynch preferences are: [Nacho, Zach, drealmerz]
I will not vote on a [Gerry, Sly, Maria] wagon, should those crop up/gain movement/etc.

I'm not really sure what needs to be done here but someone needs to wear the cape.

[Andrius]

+[Pine]
I knew I was forgetting someone.

[Andrius]

The Miller claim is really my only good reason for lynching Desperado.
Before the Cop claim, I was getting to the point where I thought of one [Desp, Frog] was scum, but then Frog claimed Cop and I was leaning him as scum.
Idk, Desperado seems like one of the only people really trying at times even if no one (read: you) hears him.

[Andrius]

I hear you.
I'm not saying its alignment indicative, I'm saying that he's one of the few people here and *trying* so lynching him only contributes to a worse game.
Like, if I had to purge half the game he'd still be here because he:
1) posts
2) posts game-related content

[Andrius]

The Miller claim is really my only good reason for lynching Desperado.
Before the Cop claim, I was getting to the point where I thought of one [Desp, Frog] was scum, but then Frog claimed Cop and I was leaning him as scum.
Idk, Desperado seems like one of the only people really trying at times even if no one (read: you) hears him.

reminder that he claimed weak cop

you know, the only role that can actually confirm a miller

I forgot about that.
Doesn't change my mind at all.
You're still more likely town at this point so no fretting required.

[Andrius]

Spoiler: Mistakes were made

[Andrius]

Well, you said you wouldn't post for a few days, which was nice, and then you came back.
And you want to lynch Nacho which is ok.
And you don't want to lynch Zach which isn't ok.
You're still a townlean because of a few things that occurred earlier.

Spoiler: Unless you meant this

You died, you came back from the dead.
You were CURIOUS for the longest time which really messed up the team and put you into some terrible situations. You have never been on a team with Pine or Sly since I don't need double-healers. You also don't hang out with the DOG POUND (aka Tammy's Dogs).

I don't trust you on a team with the squishies because Occultists, in general, are unreliable healers. You generally hang out with tankier people like SPY or TOOG or UT who can generally take a few hits.

...This makes me want to run a F62 version too.

[Andrius]

shot*

I thought it had something to do with giving a shit.
I thought you were being funny.

[Andrius]

if fro99er had investigated me he would have returned a not town result but lived, confirming my role

Since this is exactly why I'm having problem with your role and frogger's.

What's the point of putting a miller (the sole purpose being to deceive a cop) if it's not doing what the role is meant to do, since the cop can actually confirm it?

Because its :goodmodding: and has SPYREX written ALL OVER IT to have a Cop that can clear a Miller and a Miller who doesn't realize the Cop can clear him.

[Andrius]

I mean.
Maybe its some SECRET AGENDA to get scum to stop fakeclaiming Miller by creating a Cop who can actually clear a Miller.
Maybe Desp is fakeclaiming scum.

What do you think is more likely?

Also, SAD, you ignored my question earlier.

Also Andrius is yesmanning way too much.

And how does that make you feel?

Does this affect your read on me or are you just bring critical?

I realize I'm not exactly driven right now.
That's all I'll say because any more words and people won't read them. zzz

[Andrius]

shot*

I thought it had something to do with giving a shit.
I thought you were being funny.

I'm not a funny person.

Oh stop.
I've enjoyed playing this game with you.

[Andrius]

I hate to break it to you Pine but I gave my heart to Maria.
We're both town this game and I'm trying my best to make her happy after I broke her heart in THE THING.
And you might be a dirty sock.

[Andrius]

I will gladly pour myself a glass though if we want to chat about the game and party.

[Andrius]

I will gladly pour myself a glass though if we want to chat about the game and party.

How late do they sell wine? I'll join you.

Safeway's open pretty late.
I've already got one though.

[Andrius]

Gerry's town.
Menno's likely town. Namely because I can see him bussing Creature D1 no complaints nope none at all. I mean he left behind BIRD LADY so clearly he's not above letting a comrade die.

[Andrius]

Sly can we chat?

What do you think of [Nacho, Desp]?
Because I'm second-guessing myself a bit and don't like it.

[Andrius]

Same, re: Desp.

I know.
And then I started thinking about why Nacho busses Creature and commits suicide as scum.
That would actually be moonbeams.
Like, some things are NAI for him. Defusing the Tammy/Andrius was just a NACHO AS A PERSON move so I don't see that either way.

I'm having trouble because his heart isn't here but he's also not pretending it is.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Tammy, Fro99er

, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2):

Toogeloo

, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

So I look at this. Bolded is dead town or MASONS.

There's got to be scum off the main wagon not doing anything unless we're thinking that THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM bussed Creature which would be ballsy since that's 3-4 people chilling on THE wagon.
Literally everyone on your (Sly) wagon could be scum except Maria.
drealmerz is doing some low-impact crap here that's basically opposite of everything I know him for - even if he disagrees ONLY on game theory or is scumreading me despite THE WORLD saying no (Strahd) he's going to be screaming his lungs out regardless. I think he has a decent chance to be scum.
Zach is a scumread for everything I've said before.
Nos is another low-impact says a few good things and disappears.

Toog is a mason. You're town.

Fire is leaning town but I would be 0% surprised if he were scum. I've basically based this entire read on his attitude. The I DONT APOLOGIZE was basically what he said to me when we were talking about being force-replaced and I was like "yeah no I was an ass" and he was like I DONT APOLOGIZE. So I think he's likely town.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

We have three people on you both times.

[Andrius]

i'd be looking at the people who weren't on sly yesterday

So:

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

-Nos
-Zach
-drealmerz
-Toog for mason

LEAVES:
SAD
FB

[Andrius]

Yeah but didn't he send SAD something last night?
IIRC SAD claimed receipt of something.

Which really means nothing at the moment but whatever.
Like I think he's town but he's done so little.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Desperado

Dayne like my gift?

VOTE: Desperado

Dayne like my gift?

I didn't get anything :/

Was I blocked?

LOL nvm

EP gave it to me now firebringer.

[Andrius]

I am ok lynching drealmerz.
He's scumreading me and not screaming for my death.
This goes against everything I know about him.

Nos had a few good posts I liked but that's like drops of water in a pail of blood.

[Andrius]

VOTE: drealemrz
I'm sure this won't be the only vote I throw tonight.

To arms?

[Andrius]

The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

Vote Count 2.11

Randomidget -[2] Secret Agent Jin, Creature,

Creature - [8] The Underachievers, Randommidget, Dunnstral, Realeo, Hermie,

Pine

, BulbaFenix, Blawb,

Not Voting - [4] curiouskarmadog, Froot Loop, Camn, hiplop,

Mod Notes - Only votes for Creature or Randomidget will be counted.
Deadline has been extended due to the holidays, 3 days have been added to clock. No prods will go out during next few days. Have a wonderful Turkey Day.
cursiouskarmadog is V/LA till 27th
Realeo is V/LA till 27th

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 To Lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-12-01 20:00:00)!

[Andrius]

The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

Vote Count 2.11

Randomidget -[2] Secret Agent Jin, Creature,

Creature - [8] The Underachievers, Randommidget, Dunnstral, Realeo, Hermie,

Pine

, BulbaFenix, Blawb,

Not Voting - [4] curiouskarmadog, Froot Loop, Camn, hiplop,

Mod Notes - Only votes for Creature or Randomidget will be counted.
Deadline has been extended due to the holidays, 3 days have been added to clock. No prods will go out during next few days. Have a wonderful Turkey Day.
cursiouskarmadog is V/LA till 27th
Realeo is V/LA till 27th

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 To Lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-12-01 20:00:00)!

Yeah uh ignore me.
Reading the game was overrated and then there was this 1v1 thing and Pine voted the other guy first.

My b.
I just knew Creature and Pine were scum in HUNGER GAMES and had to go look.

[Andrius]

nah, dreal wagon is horseshit

Don't worry, even though drealmz is scum and I'd be more than happy to support his lynch, if I vote him, Andrius and Pine will both jump ship to Nacho.

Sly don't be like that.

[Andrius]

i'd be looking at the people who weren't on sly yesterday

So:

SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita

-Nos
-Zach
-drealmerz
-Toog for mason

LEAVES:
SAD
FB

?

I mean I was literally pushing Sly almost as hard as Creature (even though the latter was a stronger scumread but I could've checked him with my super duper ability) and was on Sly till like before the lynch. So using the fact I wasn't on him yesterday and on him today as I had ~just~ gained a scumread on him today is misrep af my man.

I was just looking at the VCs.
I didn't factor in any spoken words since you've been pretty chatty on almost every perspective.

Also you're still ignoring me.
What is your read on me?

[Andrius]

I don't speak 3spooky5me.

In English? Maybe? If that's not too much to ask of you.

[Andrius]

Yeah, Pine, I didn't read the words.
I just looked at votecounts.

[Andrius]

Close. I find Nacho/Drealmerz/{Maria or Nos} more likely.

Nos.

Maria as scum would be ELATED this game because she's scum and I'm town.
This is ULTIMATE REVENGE BREAK ANDY'S HEART game.

But its not.

[Andrius]

make a fucking case

Guilty result is more than sufficient.
Goodbye, dreal.

[Andrius]

VOTE: Nachomamma8

Also, happy Valentine's Day, gang.
Sorry I can't give you what you want for Valentine's Day, Maria. Not my fault you didn't roll scum.


pedit: dreal, you betrayed the Strahdian and got SLY killed.
I am pretty mad.

[Andrius]

D1/early D2 I had Maria, but she's looking more confused and gamesolve-y lately

Like, this works.
But I prefer my heart-based read.
Because that woman wants to crush my heart into a million pieces and this isn't that game.

[Andrius]

Firebringer ignoring on valentines day

Firebringer are you a JOAT?

Firebringer ignoring on valentines day

Firebringer are you a JOAT?

yes

happy valentines day buddy.

CAAAAAAN
YOU FEEEEEEL
THE LOOOOOOOOOVE
TONIIIIIIIIIGHT

Because I know EP hates it when I keep using this.

[Andrius]

VOTE: drealmerz7
Scum whining he's caught for the wrong reasons.

Also hi everyone.
I missed you over the four days of night we've had and 1 hour of day.
And now we're going to steamroll another scumbag and have another long time without you all.

<3,

-Andy

[Andrius]

Ok that's a bit of a stretch.
I didn't miss everyone.
Only some of you.
You know who you are.

[Andrius]

ALSO HEY
ITS MY SCUMDAY
WE'RE GOING TO LYNCH SCUMDREALMERZ
SECOND BEST SCUMDAY PRESENT OF THE DAY

pedit: We're not lynching Maria.

[Andrius]

You're asking

me

to lynch

Maria

.
After some scumbags lynched

Sly

.

Yeah he's still probably scum we should lynch that too after the confirmed scum drealmerz via tracker result from SAD and his overall scummy play.
But that's not important because that can be argued while the tracker result can't zzz.

[Andrius]

Ok well I have to go now.
I imagine he'll be swinging by the time I get back in a few hours.

Take care.
Vote drealmerz.
For

MOTHER RUSSIA

the laundromat.

[Andrius]

why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly

I tracked you to Tammy last night.

Why is dreal not dead after this?

[Andrius]

Andrius isn't mafia.

Though I'm back to my theory Andrius is SK and tried to shoot me yesterday...

I am apparently the worst SK ever.
Because only one death a night.
Or, you know, Im town.
Like Sly knew. And Fire can also probably piece together my role if he tries.

[Andrius]

Maria likely isn't mafia.

I could have told you that.

[Andrius]

why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly

I tracked you to Tammy last night.

Why is dreal not dead after this?

SAD
WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS

[Andrius]

Hmm like I have a scumread on dreamz.

But I don't think he's aligned with the flipped people.

Maybe he's the SK...

Role PMs somewhat confirm single-ball.

[Andrius]

The Laundry Basket

Hi.
You are

THE LAUNDRY BASKET

THAT ABANDONED ME TO THE FUCKING DOGS WHEN I NEEDED IT MOST

.
You are an

Encryptor

.

Alignment:

You are aligned with the Mafia. You win when mafia compose a majority of the players (or when nothing can prevent this), and there is

at least one member of mafia alive

.

This is Literally All Your Fault:

You are the cause of this conspiracy! While you are alive,

the mafia team

will be able to talk during the Day Phase.

Nachomamma8, the

Mafia Encryptor

, has been lynched D3.

Night begins immediately.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-16 14:52:00)

EP is a :goodmod: and these statements do not leave room open for MULTIPLE mafias.
There is no SOCK Mafia or SHIRT Mafia.

[Andrius]

Also wanted to repost this for Firebringer because I saw it last night and want to remind him of his obligations:

by the end of this game, mark my words.
you will be drowning in dirty laundry andrius.
all over your profile image.

[Andrius]

No evidence of a SK.
Singleball all but confirmed via Role PMs.
We likely have some sort of town killing power. Thankfully.

[Andrius]

why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly

I tracked you to Tammy last night.

Why is dreal not dead after this?

SAD
WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS

Reposting on new page because I want answers even if SAD is ignoring me on some trumped-up speculation that I'm a Serial Killer.

[Andrius]

It was a fake claim, obv

Drealmerz reacted prett badly to it though, as he continues to react badly to my drive on him

I am so disappointed.


I want Gerry dead for fakeclaiming, I want drealmerz dead for every reaction of his this game and his constant calling scumreads but putting no pressure on them.
I want SAD dead because despite EVERYTHING I still think he could be scum with Creature and Nacho and it concerns me.

[Andrius]

drealmerz has been calling me scum all game, for example.
He's made zero effort to push a wagon on me. Instead he pushed Sly, who flipped town, and doesn't re-evaluate his reads.
So now he's on Gerry which, assuming they're not buddies, is going to be an easy lynch to push through and then spend all of D5 calling me scum (again) and not doing anything about it.

Coasting.
STRAHD and THING he screams over his scumreads.
Hell he engaged Tammy late D2 (or was it D3 I can't remember) into a screaming match that put THE FIRE in Tammy and I was super impressed with how easily he got her to fight.

He is doing 0% fighting.
0% solving.
0% pushing his scumread on me.
After screaming for my blood the other two games I've been in with him.

[Andrius]

You know I watched the first episode of that and didn't really care for it.
The best part was when the blonde girl played the trumpet song from CASTLE IN THE SKY.
Which is a Joe Hisaishi product and therefore amazing.

[Andrius]

Probably because I like the brunette better in the 20~ minutes I watched the show and the main is obv going to fall for the blonde.

[Andrius]

I suppose instead of all the WORDS in #5782 I could simply have said FITE ME but w/e.

[Andrius]

I like the brunette better

[Andrius]

Let's not fight over this.
Thank you though, for the gif.

The blonde kind of reminds me of Luna Lovegood without the good things.
Makes me wish Espeonage were still around.

[Andrius]

I'm sorry.
I literally said lets not fight over this

and then turned around and said something mean.

[Andrius]

I am not going to lynch you anywhere near today

I don't want him in LyLo.
Period.
If you can solve this problem without lynching him sometime then great.

[Andrius]

I agree with Fire.

This page 237 better be the best page in the game again.

[Andrius]

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

Or y'know you could just join the drealmerz wagon where we already have people.

[Andrius]

But really tho if we just lynch the sly wagon one by one the game will end I'm pretty sure

Or y'know you could just join the drealmerz wagon where we already have people.

Should have quoted the VOTE as well since that's really what I was going for.
Nos and drealmer were both on the wagon; trying to get you to move over here where there are more ppl.

[Andrius]

1. Desperado
2. drealmerz7
3. Zachstralkita
4. Pine
5. Ser Arthur Dayne
6. MariaR
7. Firebringer
10. Nosferatu
11. McMenno
13. gerryoat
17. Andrius
Maria
Desp

Pine
SAD
FB

Menno

Gerry
Nos
Zach
drealmerz

[Andrius]

it's not even "majority bias", it's "a vocal, bullheaded few"

I mean, what do you want?

For us to all be playing like you?

You'd realize nothing would ever get done then right?

Agree with this.

[Andrius]

I want SAD dead because despite EVERYTHING I still think he could be scum with Creature and Nacho and it concerns me.

Maria
Desp

Pine
SAD
FB

Menno

Gerry
Nos
Zach
drealmerz

What happened?

Well, I still think you're town.
You've been a townread since D1.
Doesn't mean I don't want you dead for my own sanity - I agreed with Desperado's goal posting thing from earlier - you seem to take a lot of stances on things.

I can't be mafia, apparently, but you're sitting on a SK platform for me when there's zero evidence of a SK. Let alone I've been joking about being a SK from D1 (and thus claimed my role D1).

Maybe you're just trying to be flexible and pull the TRAP CARD stunt or something. Maybe you're playing this close to your chest. But I don't appreciate the flexibility/leniency/more appropriate word here.

[Andrius]

I do not have the words to describe my apprehension with you this game.