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Tammy Survivor
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And just because nacho force fed you that theory that made everything make sense, it's bloody obvious you thought it up after the that were your actual theory, if that really was what it was, you wouldn't have needed it force fed to you, you'd have been able to explain in AND if it weren't personal you wouldn't have told nacho it was about who was joining the moist game, you know if it were anyone but me having fun you wouldn't have flicked.
And if it weren't that you wouldn't have jumped to the absolute first chance you had to reignite an argument with an oh I I wouldn't put it past her to fake it. FUCK. YOU.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Zachstralkita Jack of All Trades
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Tammy is 100% town, by extension Toogeloo is 100% town.
All speculation around them of "Toogeloo resisted the Creature wagon, they might be scum" is stupid. All speculation around them of "Tammy hasn't been posting enough or Tammy has only been posting when convenient" is stupid. 1) Neither player were in a particularly bad position yesterday, neither player is known for extremely high risk, high reward gambits as scum, they've been crumbing it forever, both look quite town individually, it makes absolutely no sense to suspect either of them."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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I currently have no interest in explaining why they are town because it's a royal waste of my time; all reasons for pushing them (they didn't push the Creature lynch as fervently as we did! or Tammy faked her anger about me!) are dumb."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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I currently have no interest in explaining why they are town because it's a royal waste of my time; all reasons for pushing them (they didn't push the Creature lynch as fervently as we did! or Tammy faked her anger about me!) are dumb."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.-
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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And Tammy, I think that you saying that Andrius is trying to reignite a fight with you by saying that maybe your argument with him is faked is wrong; I don't think that he's the only one getting paranoid when he really really shouldn't:
I think you're pushing back against his suspicion unreasonably and mixing "stupid" with "personal". Andy doesn't have a personal problem with you, he's just currently lost in the way to read you.In post 4099, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm really starting to doubt the mason claim
It looks like a super hardcore gambit. Esp b/c creature was constantly scumreading both of them.
Toogeloo alone is fucking lol would scumread in a heartbeat. Only thing stopping me from doubting is my Tammy townread from her convo with Andrius."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Oh, and I think that Andrius veering from "Tammy hates playing scum so much she pads her postcount with MOIST shenanigans" to "Tammy is more than capable of completely faking that emotional meltdown of scum" does show that he's approaching you weird as hell this game, but I don't think it's personal as much as it's paranoia. And if he's town, he'll listen to me and he will go through me before he reignites this stupid paranoia yet again."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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I wasn't super two-faced about Creature. The push against him was garbage, I don't think he looked scummy and I think lynching a claimed Watcher on "with me, boys!" and "OMG that one post was F O R C E D" was bad play through and through.In post 4059, Pine wrote:
Pretty sure it was Nacho. He was super two-faced about Creature.In post 4046, gerryoat wrote:One maf bussed at the end for sure. It was nacho or desperate
VOTE: Nacho
Also, *point and laugh at Toog*In post 3987, Toogeloo wrote:I don't think it's right, but it's better than a No Lynch. This has been the worst town performance on a Day 1 ever."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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And Toog, SAD? I wouldn't have bussed there as scum either. I'll happily bus if partners are playing like garbage, but if the only reason for me to bus is because there's a phantom case being pushed on him then it's not like I'll be intimidated by Pine going "bus your partner, I'll be lynching you tomorrow"."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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I mean let's be real you called the creature wagon stupid and were pushing a fucking obvious VI I don't think you have any right to criticize people who are scumhunting a million times better than you.In post 4152, Nachomamma8 wrote:Tammy is 100% town, by extension Toogeloo is 100% town.
All speculation around them of "Toogeloo resisted the Creature wagon, they might be scum" is stupid. All speculation around them of "Tammy hasn't been posting enough or Tammy has only been posting when convenient" is stupid.
Same thing with you/Tammy getting hung up over Andrius, he's recently (since like middle of day 1 onwards) been extremely pro-town and one of the people present and creating pressure where as half the playerlist is lurking bloc.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Coming down the wrong way on the Watcher lynch yesterday is leagues different than suspecting the mason pair the next day because "TOOG DIDN'T WANT TO LYNCH CREATURE!" especially when one of the mason pairs is Tammy and she's playing an extremely obvious town game.In post 4159, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I mean let's be real you called the creature wagon stupid and were pushing a fucking obvious VI I don't think you have any right to criticize people who are scumhunting a million times better than you.In post 4152, Nachomamma8 wrote:Tammy is 100% town, by extension Toogeloo is 100% town.
All speculation around them of "Toogeloo resisted the Creature wagon, they might be scum" is stupid. All speculation around them of "Tammy hasn't been posting enough or Tammy has only been posting when convenient" is stupid.
Same thing with you/Tammy getting hung up over Andrius, he's recently (since like middle of day 1 onwards) been extremely pro-town and one of the people present and creating pressure where as half the playerlist is lurking bloc."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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LOLIn post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:The push against him was garbage, I don't think he looked scummy and I think lynching a claimed Watcher on "with me, boys!" and "OMG that one post was F O R C E D" was bad play through and through.
Where do I start with this.
But anyway you have the experience to prob know that more than half of what you're saying is complete bs are you just scum going for bad play hoping we'd write it off as you tunneling or something?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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Wait you seriously don't see how scummy creature was?In post 4160, Nachomamma8 wrote:Coming down the wrong way on the Watcher lynch yesterday is leagues different than suspecting the mason pair the next day because "TOOG DIDN'T WANT TO LYNCH CREATURE!" especially when one of the mason pairs is Tammy and she's playing an extremely obvious town game.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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Off gameplay than his usual towngame + flailing super hard under wagon pressure + his wagon kept being detailed with different wagons instead of being super easy mislynch for scum to pile on if town + highly suspicious watcher claimvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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In post 19, Desperado wrote:@ Andrius I will show as "not town" in reports that would otherwise show town
This makes Desperado more likely to be town; he has basically a 50-50 for whether results come up as "Not Town" or "Mafia" unless he did mod meta research for a Miller claim which is already veering into conspiracy theory territory.In post 4001, Errantparabola wrote:Once per Night Phase, you can choose someone to target. You will discover whether or not that person is aligned with the Town. If you target someone who is not aligned with the Town, you will die.
I will also point out that this role has on a whole decent synergy with the Weak Cop role and that it's an interesting enough role on its own; Miller is free to try to draw a nightkill and be extremely town D1, commute and know that a cop won't be able to target him, then D2 claim Miller One-Shot Commuter. I find miller to be a pretty odd fakeclaim to give to scum in general.In post 190, Desperado wrote:Miller 1-shot Commuter
His early Fro99er scumread made sense:
He started the push on him for telling Tammy (who he was hard scumreading at the time) that she's 1/3 in reading him, which is fine enough, and calling him out for discrediting SAD with the "I used to do this when I was a noob" was also a fair point.
I obviously think that his early Andrius push made sense, it was made for some of the same reasons that my early push on Andrius was made, and I think that his tunnelfests on Sly and Gerry in particular looked town as hell; don't really agree with the Sly one but I'd be interested in seeing why people think that they're just faked."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Trying to get written off as tunneling, yeah.In post 4161, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
LOLIn post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:The push against him was garbage, I don't think he looked scummy and I think lynching a claimed Watcher on "with me, boys!" and "OMG that one post was F O R C E D" was bad play through and through.
Where do I start with this.
But anyway you have the experience to prob know that more than half of what you're saying is complete bs are you just scum going for bad play hoping we'd write it off as you tunneling or something?
Is it working?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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I don't remember Creature looking SUPER TOWN early game except one game way back when he was new, so not significant to me.In post 4163, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Off gameplay than his usual towngame + flailing super hard under wagon pressure + his wagon kept being detailed with different wagons instead of being super easy mislynch for scum to pile on if town + highly suspicious watcher claim
I don't care about flailing, stupid tell.
I don't care about what other wagons did; most wagonomics assume that scum can magically create wagons to defend their partners and typically raise wagons out of nothing to defend useless partners so nope still not a great case.
And "highly suspicious watcher claim"? What was highly suspicious about it?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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SlySly's reaction to pressure has looked extraordinarily town:
In post 2384, SlySly wrote:
Are you serious?In post 2363, Andrius wrote:I am of the opinion that Sly's making this all up but people apparently believe that crap..
Vote me.In post 2404, SlySly wrote:
If I was going to fake claim, it sure wouldn't be double voter.In post 2392, Andrius wrote:The only thing I don't buy is the claim. I think someone who gets a double-vote after two days is incredibly weak.
When I'm town, integrity means everything. As you know, I'll forego my own personal wincon to fight with the town.
Don't think that Sly as scum goes so brutally for the guilt trip here when Andrius says that he might be faking his claim but is still reading him as town; it's possible that it's something he just feels strongly about and would push back on as either alignment but I don't think that it would unfold quite this way if he were scum (in particular, don't think he talks about that last post as scum).In post 2411, SlySly wrote:
I'm not gone far. Andrius calling bs on my claims has me all out of sorts.In post 2403, Pine wrote:Andrius and Sly. Back on Creature."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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MariaR Alternatively,
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I'm in dif on Nacho unless scum saw frogs weak cop claim and killed him nacho is scum but it's always gonna be something in the back of our heads
VOTE: Nacho
Better get it over with nowI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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so unless scum saw that frogger claimed cop, i'm scum?In post 4168, MariaR wrote:unless scum saw frogs weak cop claim and killed him"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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MariaR Alternatively,
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Yes. Ther fact there is no second night kill gives me cold feet thoughIn post 4169, Nachomamma8 wrote:
so unless scum saw that frogger claimed cop, i'm scum?In post 4168, MariaR wrote:unless scum saw frogs weak cop claim and killed him
VOTE: Pine
I guess I can always lynch pine before I go after a toss upI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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The fact none of the masons died is what shocks me (don't tell me it's so scum could try to frame them I'll laugh in your face)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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killing a cop over a mason seems like a no brainer to meIn post 4172, MariaR wrote:The fact none of the masons died is what shocks me (don't tell me it's so scum could try to frame them I'll laugh in your face)"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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