Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Fro99er]

Frogger instead of positing ridiculous theories why don't you check out Musical Mafia and see if you notice any differences with beeboy's play here

Because you will

I posted that theory before your beeboy post. Of course I'm going to check out beeboy, that's why I fucking asked.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not sure what to make of PV. It feels like there vote should be elsewhere.

I'm listening.

I don't know, just seems like you scum read A&N, Titus head, and Maria head more.

A&N- They are playing and interacting and coming up with stuff, I just don't find it all that powerful or persuasive, personally. And I've flagged some behavior that will mean more later in the game.

DEO- Very ambivalent on Math overall, wary of Titus play in general. At some point that will do something that will trip me one way or another, but it hasn't happened yet.

Sondam- Similar to A&N when it comes to how I perceive them. They are doing stuff, but seem to overreact to others reactions to them.

I get hydra dissonance exists, but it is a scum tactic to hide behind when shifting reads and making opportunistic changes to play. To that end, I scrutinize hydras harder on most things, and don't give them the same benefit of the doubt I might a single player.

So what makes beeboy scummier than those 3?

[Creature]

VOTE: beeboy

[Creature]

Who Yuri is?

[Spiffeh]

I'd vote A&N but I was waiting on Nero before I actually continued with that.

I cannot emphasize this enough, never have I seen town!beeboy not contribute a vote to a wagon of their scum reads because he was "waiting" on someone else?

His Musical Mafia ISO is littered with calling wagons on his scum reads (namely Friendless Seniors)

This really does not look like his town game.

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.09

beeboy (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature

Yuri (3):

Fro99er, Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO

NoticeMeSenpai (2):

Vecna, Elbirn

Akane and Nebby (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

beeboy

The DEO (1):

Sondam

Creature (1):

Nero Cain

Fro99er (1):

Leonshade

Not Voting (6):

Drixx, Julius Caesar, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage, Akane and Nebby

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Spiffeh]

I'd vote A&N but I was waiting on Nero before I actually continued with that.

MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE

[Spiffeh]

That quote shouldn't be there but I guess it isn't entirely out of place

[Sondam]

The DEO and Creature are two mafs imo. Haven't asked Maria of her opinion yet on why i think so (on creature).

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Did not know there was a Julius Caesar in this game lol

~Gerry

[Spiffeh]

The wagon that fell apart when as soon as frog!town stopped pushing it.
2 sheeping scum minimum on that wagon

Oh you mean your wagon of 5 people?

Who are those sheeping scum?

[Fro99er]

I think it's an unreliable way to get a read. Taking someone's word on someone else's meta isn't something I'm willing to do.

Spiffeh, you want me to take your word on beeboy's meta?

[Nahdia]

Caesar Wills It replaces Julius Caesar. Still the same heads, just a different name.

[Fro99er]

I think it's an unreliable way to get a read. Taking someone's word on someone else's meta isn't something I'm willing to do.

Spiffeh, you want me to take your word on beeboy's meta?

(I mean, because I looked it over and see what you mean, but I want to needle you on this)

[Creature]

Okay, Maxous can be town for now.

[Spiffeh]

@Max I see you are scum reading A&N

I feel they are transparently town

Can you elaborate more on that read?

[Creature]

The DEO and Creature are two mafs imo. Haven't asked Maria of her opinion yet on why i think so (on creature).

~Gerry

Are there scum not pushing you?

[Spiffeh]

I think it's an unreliable way to get a read. Taking someone's word on someone else's meta isn't something I'm willing to do.

Spiffeh, you want me to take your word on beeboy's meta?

No actually I gave you a concrete example and asked you to look at it yourself so in no way was I expecting anyone to just take my word for it

[Akane and Nebby]

Also why do you scumread Elbrin and Drixx?
-Nebby

pedit: I just wanna hear what they have to say! Gawd.

Mkay thanks for talkin to me
-Nebby

Bad tone. And wanted to talk about the scumread on them, but there's no followup. Just 'thanks for talking to me'.

I'm excited!

and naaaaah, I don't care about the omgus. It's cute that you decided to target my weakest point tho.
What I do care about is you originally calling The DEO's a contradiction then calling it a slip. Because THAT is a contradiction. (Refering to 891 and 899)

-Nebby

More bad tone, trying to brush off the scumread. Not going to get into the differing definitions of slip and contradiction.

I'm literally in a convo with you rn about an issue, why are all your questions like this

Oh I thought you had OTHER concerns that actually involved you reading my ISO instead of misreping and discreditting all of my questions.

-Nebby

Is concerned with how I might be viewing their ISO. Expects me, their scumread, to apparently have a lot of good points relating to their ISO. Like they expect there to be something there, and are ignoring that we are currently in talks about an issue I have with their slot.

Yo. Is this all you got? Because it's embarrassing.
Consider this a declaration of war, as I will work on my push on you when I get home
VOTE: Yuri

-Nebby

[Fro99er]

I think it's an unreliable way to get a read. Taking someone's word on someone else's meta isn't something I'm willing to do.

Spiffeh, you want me to take your word on beeboy's meta?

No actually I gave you a concrete example and asked you to look at it yourself so in no way was I expecting anyone to just take my word for it

Right, but Vecna gave a concrete example regarding Uzi too.

[Spiffeh]

Dude, it's noise tunneling. I invented it years ago.

I get you disagree but it doesn't help town in the slightest.

The point is to solve the game, not shade randomly and never resolve anything.

I don't think it makes Maria scum

[Creature]

Fro99er can be town too.

[Creature]

Btw, why is Drixx town?

[Akane and Nebby]

People in this game need to be more willing to wagon people

VOTE: beeboy

Let's start one here

I'd join ya. But I got bigger fish to fry.

-Nebby

[PeregrineV]

Not sure what to make of PV. It feels like there vote should be elsewhere.

I'm listening.

I don't know, just seems like you scum read A&N, Titus head, and Maria head more.

A&N- They are playing and interacting and coming up with stuff, I just don't find it all that powerful or persuasive, personally. And I've flagged some behavior that will mean more later in the game.

DEO- Very ambivalent on Math overall, wary of Titus play in general. At some point that will do something that will trip me one way or another, but it hasn't happened yet.

Sondam- Similar to A&N when it comes to how I perceive them. They are doing stuff, but seem to overreact to others reactions to them.

I get hydra dissonance exists, but it is a scum tactic to hide behind when shifting reads and making opportunistic changes to play. To that end, I scrutinize hydras harder on most things, and don't give them the same benefit of the doubt I might a single player.

So what makes beeboy scummier than those 3?

1. Crappy resolution logic
2. Bad vote on you
3. Lack of engagment

On the plus side, I liked 1132- it shows effort to sort Creature (sort of).

On the more negative, I checked 1317, and I see Spiffeh's point.