In post 885, Andrius wrote: In post 792, Toogeloo wrote:Is it because Now has done jack all, because that's why I originally voted him?
I mean I don't have high expectations for Nos, but yeah, his not doing things is bad.
Also Creature but w/e I've seen him to next-to-nothing before. Attempting to be charitable here.
Well then we're at an impasse.
Look, I understand where you're coming from. You're saying you were happy. Great. I'm not arguing that.
My perception was something else. I'm not going to claim SAD and I are on the same page but he also thought you were off at one point in time.
In post 793, Tammy wrote:I know you're better that the bs your posting right now.
Uhhhhh what.
What, the reads list early on?
I usually have reads lists. I do it all the time.
Are my reads atrocious? On occasion. I successfully found zero scum in Curse of the Werewolves and p. much only found town the entire game.
I don't claim to be good at this game but you can't say I'm not transparent.
In post 793, Tammy wrote:I still think you're over correcting. And just because you were able to knock me off tilt last time I suspected you when you were scum by playing this stupid game you're playing now, it won't work this time.
You know I can't respond to this right now.
There are no games here. These are my reads and if you just say "ok great they're terrible" that's fine.
But I'm not convinced that's the case.
In post 796, Fro99er wrote:Thought that was interesting. Why is dreal the strongest townread Andy? Zach would certainly seem to disagree.
The lists aren't stratified other than by category.
If they are, I'll make it clear that's the case.
In post 794, Fro99er wrote: In post 770, Tammy wrote:The only thing I like is that people are finally realizing what I pointed out last night that nosferstu is being useless. She's scummy, but frogger asked for a minute and I'm giving that.
Thanks. I'm not sure on Nos yet but I know a town Nos when I see one...usually as the game progresses. I'm not going to say what it is, because I don't want to influence that behavior coming out or not.
This doesn't help me. At all.
I want him dead and the vague IN THE FUTURE stuff won't fly forever.
In post 797, Nachomamma8 wrote:Vote: Andrius
What bitter moisture is the taste of betrayal, Andrius. We could have had it all, but the only love you have for me is a dagger in the back.
I don't know, man.
I could write for a long time about things that probably don't matter to people here/matter anymore but that'd be a waste of my time.
This isn't some form of betrayal.
Yes, perhaps I was foolish to think I could just pick things up where I left off with people after being gone for years and more time wearing a black tie than I wanted to.
But if I were to speak honestly from the heart we'd be so far off-track with this game.
So no.
I'll mortify the heart and do what I can for you all.
I'll stay here, as long as you let me.
Tammy if I offended you then ask me to leave and I'll be gone.
In post 798, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote: In post 761, Andrius wrote: In post 758, Toogeloo wrote: Why do you feel better about Fro99er, but he was already a town read?
So let's say you're married.
I think you are.
You love your spouse?
Then they do something unexpected and you love them more.
I townread Fro99er.
He did things.
I townread him more.
In post 715, Andrius wrote:Changed my mind. Through page 23 and [Frogger, Tammy, Nacho] all better.
"Hi honey I'm home. And I changed my mind! I love you."
Your wife would slap you and think you didn't love her before.
What you said indicates you had a scumread on him before. Which is why your whole readlist reeks of fakeness. You also liked my reaction to my L-1? That happened before you posted your reads list and you still had me as scum there.
Clearly I need to write better.
"I changed my mind" implied I changed my mind from going to bed right now and decided to read a little bit more. Not I changed my mind on my read.
In post 799, Nachomamma8 wrote: In post 760, Andrius wrote:dreaemrz - Drealmerz is as drealmerz does. He'll scumread me at some point for a difference in playstyle but there's little that can be done save be masons with him.
Pine - I mean you punch me in the heart when you say I maybe scum. But I think you're town. Strong early game, gives no shits.
MariaR - We're always waiting for the next season. The producers don't want any big moves this early. Also, you remind me of AGM a bit with the (apparently) you have a preference for MAFIA and there's less engagement here. But hey, we're talking atnd its D1 so maybe we'll stick it to the producers this one eh?
SlySly - Town.
Fro99er - Town because the big three are hating on him and he doesn't give a shit. Honey badget don't care.
Toog - Wow look he's doing things. And he's joining the gif brigade. Town.
SAD - Town for reactions to wagon and potential lynching at L-1.
All of your town reads are poetry; they aren't reads.
Drealmerz is drealmerz but look at us, we are scum together!
Pine is town because he doesn't care. Frogger is town because he doesn't care. Maria prefers scum and is less engaged and thus town. Sly is town because Sly is a friend.
The ADMIRAL ANDRIUS persona is not just amusing pictures; there's supposed to be an actual drive to solve the game and holy shit is it hilariously absent; I'm just sad that Tammy made it here before I did.
See this is just opinions.
I have my reads, which are my opinions.
You might think I'm bullshitting but that doesn't change what I think.
Tammy might be all happy to walk into the game but I was like whoa hang on there's something off here.
Doesn't mean she's not happy.
Like, you can call my reads wrong. That's ok.
But don't sit here and undermine everything I'm doing.
In post 799, Nachomamma8 wrote:Pine is town because he doesn't care. Frogger is town because he doesn't care. Maria prefers scum and is less engaged and thus town. Sly is town because Sly is a friend.
Look I'm not expecting you to be all GIVE THIS MAN PROFESSOR MAFIA.
I play in my own mixture of reads with a few specific tells I've picked up from being here long enough.
I don't know how to engage with you here because you're shutting down this entire conversation with NO ITS ALL BULLSHIT YOUR READS ARE POETRY.
Do you disagree with my reads? Or is it how I am presenting them? Do you think Pine is scum? Do you think Fro99er is scum? Do you think Maria is scum? Do you think Sly is scum?
Or are you just taking issue with my tone or presentation or something?
Because just going LOL POETRY is bull.
In post 800, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also if we're wagoning people for lurking and/or not contributing to the game I feel creature is better at least there are people who can vouch for Nos for being like this everything I have ever read about and or seen of creature he's an extremely engaged player.
Trust me I an noticing Creature.
I have some experience with him.
In post 802, Nachomamma8 wrote: In post 760, Andrius wrote:nacho - Nacholove I could write you an essay. All I want is for you to be here and do the reads and either lead or be part of the TOWNBLOC that you know will happen because you and I are here and this is how we roll. I want to see you interact with people and be human but I'm not getting the Nacholove vibes. And you know I can read you correctly. (And yes, I realize that the most recent game we've played was WEREWOLVES with PINE. I forgot about that one.)
Andylove what the hell is this?
"You aren't being human and you know I can read you, by the way we haven't played together in three years"???
What part of my opening said "not human" to you? Why do you talk about being confident in reading me now when you weren't confident in reading me when we were actually playing together?
I know better than to assume people don't change after years.
I would be lying if I said I hadn't.
Its like, I pretend that I can just pick up relationships after awhile with no change because certain people don't care about what happens in the rainy days, so to speak.
My words to you are an odd mixture of HI LETS PICK THIS UP AGAIN and OK WELL MAYBE YOU DONT or well maybe we just never had a strong relationship to begin with.
I would say more but the best example of this is somewhat
on-going
so I can't.
I mean.
You're here now, interacting with me.
So I guess I got what I wanted, eh?
My gut on you is usually right.
That newbie, both Xeno games we townread each other instantly but then allowed ourselves to doubt in the long-term, twice leading to my lynch in order to guarantee the win.
Its the paranoia that usually kills us. Well, me. You outlived me every time.
Maybe I should stop bringing in myself from outside the game into the game.
Maybe I should just wear the mask.
In post 805, Nachomamma8 wrote:
And sorry, I've already heard this song and am not particularly interested in yet another rendition; play me something different.
You don't like my reads? ok
You don't like my tone? ok
You don't like my delivery? ok
What do you want from me?
In post 827, Toogeloo wrote: In post 821, Firebringer wrote:Yeah....andy was acting odd around Tammy.
Like really odd.
Like the conversation didn't feel normal in anyway.
Like a pre-pubescent teenager around his really hot Spanish teacher?
I don't get what you're alluding to.
In post 840, gerryoat wrote:i just can't get into this game. I need a flip to get reads, but i usually suck day 1 anyway. Why are people voting Andrious
Do you have any reads?
Any at all?
In post 854, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote: In post 840, gerryoat wrote:i just can't get into this game. I need a flip to get reads, but i usually suck day 1 anyway. Why are people voting Andrious
You should replace out it's not too late for someone to catch up your playstyle annoys the shit out of me the "sit there and wait for people to do stuff while I do nothing can we just get a flip any flip I'm bad day 1 I can't get into this game".
Agree with this sentiment.
What you said is far more charitable than what I might have said.
In post 869, MariaR wrote:Slay and Dream are question marks for me as I don't understand how you can read them
Meta.
And me thinking I know them well enough.
Granted, I probably don't.
But I think I do well enough.
Not done yet.
