WWE Mafia - Smackdown! (Game Over - Off Television)

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Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

[Creature]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

Yeah, looks pretty interesting, but you're aligned with town.

[Creature]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

Yeah, looks pretty interesting, but you're aligned with town.

Any strategy suggestions?

First we wagon two players at random, then we see who takes which side.

[Creature]

I don't really know what to do right now.

[Creature]

Btw, this is a simulation of how it works:

Smackdown thread:
You: Yay! We lynched two scum already and we're lynching the third!
You: *gets wincon transferred to RAW thread*
RAW thread:
LyLo with 3 scum alive.

[Creature]

Yes, I know everyone's roles and alignments.

[Creature]

It'd be funny if dead scum couldn't win.

Wonder how bussing would work.

[Creature]

Who are the newbies?

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VOTE: Titus

[Creature]

Btw, I think the mod hasn't put a sample role PM yet, so we could confirm someone as town: What's your alignment flavor?

[Creature]

How finisher works btw?

[Creature]

I mean what finisher does?

[Creature]

Wait, can you talk about the other game?

[Creature]

Oh right.

[Creature]

Will focus scumhunting here, if the other thread town screws up, hopefully I am not traded.

[Creature]

So far my townreads: alban, IAI, Titus

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

and Tywin because he's hated.

[Creature]

Who else wants a free townread?

[Creature]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

[Creature]

I think he's hinting something and I think that's most likely coming from town, I don't know how else I could explain it.

[Creature]

Okay.

VOTE: Pepto

[Creature]

Spoiler: RAW

If any of you has the ability to vig the other brand, I suggest MariaR.

[Creature]

Okay then

[Creature]

lol you take 140 serious.

[Creature]

I thought he was reaction testing.

[Creature]

I don't know what alban is doing then, if he's a total newbie, then all his games was like this?

[Creature]

RAW is two pages long -_-

[Creature]

*uses fu on Gamma*

*uses STFU on Gamma*

Fuck it. That felt good.

Not opposing.

[Creature]

lol we're the blue thread.

[Creature]

Wow Tywin

He called you scum.

[Creature]

Spoiler: RAW

If I were you, I would call out Ms Columbo's RVS vote.

[Creature]

Not opposing.

[Creature]

I'm fine with Gamma dying, so it's fine.

[Creature]

Early guess:

Gamma Emerald - MariaR - Vifam/Massive

[Creature]

I may know how to prevent Gamma from dying, but not sure if he's worth saving.

[Creature]

Early guess:

Gamma Emerald - MariaR - Vifam/Massive

You never did answer what you thought of Vifam's vote on me.

I would take out MariaR and put in Pepto. Not likely the shade coming from him.

Okay, Gamma - MariaR/Pepto - Vifam

Happy?

[Creature]

Maybe Gamma - Pepto - Vifam

[Creature]

We'll wait until you're one hour away from dying then see whether we should vote the attacker or not. Fine with that?

[Creature]

I may know how to prevent Gamma from dying, but not sure if he's worth saving.

But do you SR him? I mean, by the book Mafia means it's bad to D1/N1 Vigi kill almost always. It's not a pro-town move per say, but the fallout of it may help speed up the game. I think it was a grudge kill rather than game related though, so there's not much info gained.

Grey: thoughts? What's the plan here? Do you SR Gamma or just used the ability for lols?

Yes, I scumread him. And it's not bad if it's not on town.

[Creature]

Oh nice, your sig broke the page.

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alban, IAI, Titus, Grey, Tywin, me

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We need one more.

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So far I never mislynched MariaR over fear.

[Creature]

zefiend is town, the townblock is complete.

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At least for me.

[Creature]

zefiend is town, the townblock is complete.

Slight problem...he doesn't townread you

Yeah, there'll always have someone scumreading me, I think I never got any game I wasn't scumread besides night stuff.

But whatever, they're wrong, they'll most likely be ignored, then I'll die at night and, unfortunately, everybody will forget about me.

[Creature]

zefiend is town, the townblock is complete.

Slight problem...he doesn't townread you

Yeah, there'll always have someone scumreading me, I think I never got any game I wasn't scumread besides night stuff.

But whatever, they're wrong, they'll most likely be ignored, then I'll die at night and, unfortunately, everybody will forget about me.

I would feel better about this if we all townread each other.

Yeah, right. Though scum should soon kill me and problem solved.

[Creature]

Titus' posts are weird, but I agree with him.

[Creature]

I just got an amazing idea, what if we make each of us unable to vote and then pretend we can vote?

[Creature]

I just got an amazing idea, what if we make each of us unable to vote and then pretend we can vote?

That would be hilarious, but dangerous. Scum could whip out a submission move.

They need to do that in-thread, aka outing themselves. Even if they did, our vote restrictions will expire before submission deadline hits and we could vote the attacker.

[Creature]

For some reason I feel bad:
Smackdown thread: 17 pages
RAW thread: 3 pages

[Creature]

Oh right, massive is the manager.

[Creature]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Creature]

Being atheist isn't bad at all.

[Creature]

Anyone played with Wifam before?

[Creature]

We already have two scum: Gamma Emerald + MariaR

Opinions on the third?

[Creature]

I think it's most likely Pepto by PoE.

[Creature]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

[Creature]

So you're fine with Vifam?

[Creature]

Okay, we have a town!Vifam.

[Creature]

I'd rather for now assume the setup is 10v3.

[Creature]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic.

It seems you got a fine scum theater there.

[Creature]

Yeah, it's a really weird coincidence.

VOTE: MariaR

[Creature]

lol

[Creature]

Hmm, I wonder why Nero's focused to scumhunt here...

[Creature]

I think MariaR is scumreading me because I always scumread her. Though, I actually have a reason to always scumread her while she doesn't.

[Creature]

Also, when I said Gamma - Maria - Pepto team, I wasn't taking their association, just that they seemed most likely scum.

[Creature]

Yes, we're the scumteam of Creature/Titus/Tywin Lannister/Grey/zefiend/Alban/I Am Innocent

[Creature]

massive will like be the best manager ever.

[Creature]

Don't worry, him lurking is usual.

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Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

Force-replace incoming.

[Creature]

I think we're basically gonna send suspected players to the other brand as the other brand will probably do the same.

[Creature]

I don't think Vifam is scum.

Hopefully we don't lynch Vifam over MariaR or Gamma Emerald.

[Creature]

Spoiler: RAW

Banana Mint's farewell has my support.

[Creature]

I presume you think Maria is buddying Vifam?

I'm not doing associations.

[Creature]

I feel Gamma is scum trying to look a bit active so he doesn't get called out for inactivity, but he's clearly struggling to get an activity like his town!self does.

[Creature]

I just would like you to not lynch the town from Vifam/MariaR.

[Creature]

Oh right, you mean DodgeTheSaint.

Nah, he's trying too hard.

[Creature]

Is Dodge suspected because of something particular I missed or just because his posts, in general, look like trying too hard?

[Creature]

Meh, he's right, it's most likely you'll stay in the current brand than be transferred.

[Creature]

1 day, 14 hours, 36 minutes until I Am Innocent taps out, unless someone can stop it.

I'll let this go on for a while. Though, I think you should've taken his vote too, he could vote you to stop this whenever he wants.

[Creature]

CREATURE HAS TO BE SCUM......... he needs 8 vote to lynch,, get him now,,

Micro 628

No, not all loved are scum.

[Creature]

To be fair I'm loved for flavor reasons, and flavor isn't AI, so don't come with "loved and hated can't both be town together"

[Creature]

Is it stated anywhere it's Babyface vs Heel?

[Creature]

Oh nvm

[Creature]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

Btw I think this is a scumslip.

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Yeah, I oppose any wagon on you.

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Because anyone that opposes MariaR is scum, aka half the playerlist is scum.

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Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

Btw I think this is a scumslip.

I noticed this too.

Scumslip is a little strong here. It is off though. It's hyper defensive though.

By asking "why are you so sure there is 3 scum?" he's being ignorant. If you take a look at our win con, it suggests we're against only one faction.

[Creature]

Mod

Say there's only one scum left and that scum is drafted to the other brand, does the game automatically end here?

[Creature]

I'll make a deal
If Creature doesn't flip scum vig shoot me

Oh right, it should give your buddies space to make more mislynches.

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I'm fine with sending Grey to the other brand if Almost Chara is townreading him. MariaR should also be "happy".

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What about ThinkBig?

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I would like someone easier to read. Nero doesn't look like one.

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Yeah, includes Kmd4390, Leonshade, Ms Columbo, DodgeTheSaint/Banana Mint (though they're looking like scum) maybe Narna, McMenno or malpascp, or even penguinos.

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oh, and ThinkBig.

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If not townread, at least read better without paranoia.

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Fine with MariaR, whose reads don't look seriously, and Gamma, whom been caught acting ignorant.

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Can't think of any other caught scum. Who's most likely the third for Gamma and MariaR?

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Gamma's town it's how town gamma plays I'd say Deal. With. It.

Nah, he's much more aggressive.

[Creature]

We'll eventually get a read on them, we don't need to draft them before sorting them.

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To clarify, I'm saying players that imo are easy to read. It doesn't mean they'll always be town (though, you'll feel it's more easy to determine whether they're town or scum).

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Alban seemed town early.

IAI's usually lurking but when he posts he does a lot.

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idk

We can't lynch them all and I felt they were town at the few posts they made.

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I was Town Loved once, I don't have to be scum.

[Creature]

Takes one more vote to be lynched. Opposite to Hated.

[Creature]

You can pick one wagon that already has votes:

Vote Count 1.08

Alban

(2/7)

- I Am Innocent, Zefiend

Gamma Emerald

(0/7)

-

I Am Innocent

(1/7)

- Tywin Lannister

Peptobislawl

(0/7)

-

Titus

(1/7)

- Vifam

-Grey-

(3/7)

- Peptobislawl, Gamma Emerald, MariaR

Zefiend

(0/7)

-

MariaR

(2/7)

- Creature, Titus

Tywin Lannister

(0/6)

-

KainTepes

(1/7)

- Alban

Vifam

(2/7)

- -Grey-, Massive

Massive

(0/7)

-

Creature

(0/8)

-

Not Voting:

KainTepes

Notes

: - (expired on 2016-12-25 10:30:00) until Gamma Emerald taps out, unless someone can stop it.
- There's a little bit of a discrepancy of KainTepes' unvote of Tywin since he didn't vote Tywin, but there was an unvote and it was in bold so it happened.

With 13 alive, it takes seven to lynch. (For most!)

[Creature]

Kain is now one of my favorite lynches.

Gamma
MariaR
Kain

[Creature]

Kain is now one of my favorite lynches.

Gamma
MariaR
Kain

Which would you lynch from these?

[Creature]

I still want my scumreads sorted someway.

[Creature]

and hopefully none of them surviving to endgame as scum.

[Creature]

Curious to see what reasoning they have on their MariaR read.

[Creature]

Spoiler: Almost Chara

MariaR is all yours. Just don't draft me then.

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Titus

Would you be okay if Almost Chara drafted MariaR?

[Creature]

At least we have a caught scum.

[Creature]

So we:

Lynch Gamma
Have Almost Chara draft MariaR
Draft someone we're townreading but RAW aren't?

[Creature]

Though, if Almost Chara is townreading MariaR, they're drafting a townread of them. If MariaR is scum, it'll actually benefit us.

[Creature]

Only if they decide to draft you there.

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Only if they decide to draft you there.

What? RAW cannot have 4 scum if I am drafted.

Current:
SD: 3 scum
RAW: 3 scum

Almost Chara drafts scum

SD: 2 scum
RAW: 4 scum

aka we have one less scum to deal with.

[Creature]

Unless the meaning of draft is create a new slot rather than steal the slot from the other game.

[Creature]

I thought it only counted Smackdown for me.

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Mod

Say town wins in Smackdown but loses in RAW, does Smackdown town wins or draws?

[Creature]

Okay, let's wait the mod clear the confusion then.

[Creature]

If our win con applies for both brands, then we could have one brand try to draft scum from the other when there's only one scum left.

[Creature]

Gamma: I never wanted to post anyway.

[Creature]

Maybe KuroiXHF is the kind of mod that posts a redacted rolecard upon flip, so maybe we can see their win con.

[Creature]

Though, Titus got it and we're townreading her anyway.

[Creature]

KainTepes claims PR and if town scum would want to get rid of him (or maybe let him catch some of them red-handed?).

MariaR will most likely be drafted to RAW.

Gamma Emerald is being lynched.

Good riddance of my primary scumreads.

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I Am Innocent - Titus - -Grey- - Tywin Lannister - Vifam - Creature

massive

Alban - Peptobislawl - zefiend

Gamma Emerald - MariaR - KainTepes

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Alban - Peptobislawl - zefiend

are the null field. Sometimes I townread them but not enoughily.

massive earns his own spot for being a manager.

[Creature]

Have fun in RAW.

[Creature]

"If X flips town, Y and Z might be scum for pushing"

[Creature]

Almost Chara is strong townreading her.

[Creature]

Good, let's see if someone slipped scum's wincon.

[Creature]

At least there's something that can't be stopped by a single vote:

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Creature]

I Am Innocent - Titus - -Grey- - Tywin Lannister - Vifam - Creature

This should be a good townblock.

[Creature]

Also, if we could have Almost Chara drafting MariaR while we draft an obvtown, we could expand it.

[Creature]

Whatever, we'll see.

[Creature]

Was alban prodded?

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Notes: - Looking for a replacement for Alban.

Oh right

[Creature]

Maybe if you hadn't the reputation of being wrong about me.

[Creature]

Maybe massive could also be part of the townblock.

[Creature]

This is dumb because this could literally all be avoided with sample PMs in the OP

Still think posts like this are town.

[Creature]

but if you hate townreading someone who hasn't "contributed"

[Creature]

lol that list, must have at least two scum in it.

[Creature]

Also, watch out with the Fake Confidence.

It works like this: Someone has a fake confidence X is scum even though others are strongly townreading him, and then suddenly the townreads start to die and scum gets another free mislynch on their pool.

[Creature]

Where Maria towntold?

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Maria is most likely going to be drafted to RAW anyway, so maybe we won't have to discuss much about it.

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Yes, and there are couple others.

[Creature]

She townslipped
She is uber active rather than floating under the radar
She is usually like this as town

[Creature]

The person she most tunnels is always town, but at least she ends up attacking some scum along the tunnel (with the exception of whoever tries to defend her tunnelee).

[Creature]

The person she most tunnels is always town, but at least she ends up attacking some scum along the tunnel (with the exception of whoever tries to defend her tunnelee).

So you're townreading Vifam not based on his play, but based on me

always

being wrong.

See Wake's role madness. I only had one read wrong the entire game, and it was my first check.

No, I'm townreading Vifam based on his play, I got to that conclusion out of that.

[Creature]

The person she most tunnels is always town, but at least she ends up attacking some scum along the tunnel (with the exception of whoever tries to defend her tunnelee).

So you're townreading Vifam not based on his play, but based on me

always

being wrong.

See Wake's role madness. I only had one read wrong the entire game, and it was my first check.

No, I'm townreading Vifam based on his play, I got to that conclusion out of that.

There's nothing to townread in his play. The only thing that scumfuck did is fuck the game.

Because he didn't contribute at all? I've seen town doing the same.

[Creature]

Maybe after Gamma's scumflip and possible night results, we might get a better idea of who's scum.

[Creature]

MariaR should have been drafted.

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I'm not letting her survive to endgame as scum.

[Creature]

DiamondSentinel, MariaR, Peptobislawl, zefiend

Everybody else is town.

[Creature]

I'm not letting her survive to endgame as scum.

Atleast not the same draft I am in.

[Creature]

Okay, I'm giving DS a free pass because alban was towny, but he needs to fix his reads.

[Creature]

Maria/Pepto/zef scumteam?

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I'm townreading strongly everybody but you, Maria, Pepto and zefiend. I don't work with scumreads so much.

[Creature]

Why is Maria 100% town?

[Creature]

Strong townposts because of the content or the emotions she showed?

[Creature]

lol, her content are like: "Everybody who scumreads me is scum". I saw she playing as town and she usually tries to see who's scum and who's wrong, here is pretty different.

Also, emotions aren't AI for her.

[Creature]

I think you misunderstood.

"I don't work with scumreads" means I don't really scum hunt so much, but I rather hunt for town and then I see who's left.

[Creature]

DiamondSentinel

Btw, if you think there are three scum, who else is scum besides Tywin Lannister?

[Creature]

That's not good play, because then you're more likely to find scummy town members than scum.

Or I could include players I am too paranoid to strong read and then it should be easier.

[Creature]

PEdit: Read my intro post, kiddo. I wrote down everything in there about 4 days ago. I don't remember what was in it.

Let me see:
massive - cree cree cree
Leonshade - cree cree cree
I Am Innocent - Town nvm nulltown
Peptobislawl - Oh no he posted a ultra towny post therefore he must be town
Titus - Likely town
-Grey- - Noob (but town)
zefiend - Nullest person ever
MariaR - OH MY GOD SHE'S SO TOWN I'LL QUIT MAFIA IS SHE'S SCUM!!!!
Tywin Lannister - Scum!!
Creature - Town for being horribly wrong

[Creature]

*if

[Creature]

Wished MariaR was drafted. Though, at least Titus vs Vifam is over.

[Creature]

Newbscum candidates:
MariaR - Though not newb, I don't think she makes good decisions as scum
Peptobislawl
maybe zefiend

[Creature]

Hmm, not opposing, sorry.

[Creature]

Smackdown misses you too, Vifam.

[Creature]

VOTE: MariaR

Alternative: Peptobislawl

[Creature]

I'm prob wrong in one of my townreads (it'd be good if MariaR and Peptobislawl are both scum and there's just a traitor elsewhere).

[Creature]

Okay then

VOTE: -Grey-

[Creature]

Gamma is alive?

[Creature]

Yeah, I need to die, but I need to die by scum, not by lynch.

[Creature]

If Nero is scum, we still have three other scum unless Vifam was one of them.

[Creature]

I mean't Leonshade, not Nero.

[Creature]

One of Pepto or Maria will probably die anyway, if they don't we might eventually sort them later.

[Creature]

I thought I saw someone talking about him.

[Creature]

I think he's town at the moment.

[Creature]

Maria and Pepto are masons
DS and IAI look genuinely town
Still think Titus is town
massive also looks probtown
I am town

That leaves:
Leonshade - Was drafted so can't be original scum
-Grey-
zefiend
Tywin Lannister

[Creature]

RAW

I'm not really following RAW closely, though, if I were there I'd probably put more pressure on Dodge or some other inactive slot.

[Creature]

idk, sometimes I feel like each manager should draft the scummiest player from the other draft and then we immediatelly lynch that player.

[Creature]

I don't feel like lynching a mason claim right now.

[Creature]

Okay cool, if I flip town you'll just shut up because you're so far only pushing mislynches (unless you're both scum fakeclaiming masons, then keep talking and we'll eventually have to policy lynch you).

[Creature]

Better it be a dayvig, and not a kingmaker-like lynch.

[Creature]

DiamondSentinel and Titus are all town btw.

[Creature]

And so IAI is.

[Creature]

If you try to push a mislynch on IAI, I give town total permission to lynch one of you.

[Creature]

Btw, massive is also probtown.

[Creature]

Okay, just don't be detrimental to town and maybe we won't have to lynch one of you.

Follow on:
-Grey-
Leonshade
Tywin Lannister
zefiend

Everybody else looks town.

[Creature]

You can start with zefiend.

[Creature]

I am hoping they're desperados. It'd be super helpful.

[Creature]

One conftown that lynches scum > Two not-so-conf town that mislynches

[Creature]

If you can sort one of Grey, Tywin, Leon, zefiend. You may lynch one of the masons.

The fact they have a conjoined power sort of makes them possibly scum.

[Creature]

MariaR, the scum asset.

[Creature]

Okay, lynch one of them then.