Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

^
Will respond to stuff later

[SirCakez]

What is the plan you're pushing now exactly? You've swapped it up a few times.

lynch you, Luna blocks GE. lynch GE -> Luna if no kill, lynch Luna if a kill happens.

This is pretty scummy, no?

not really?

in the first place, GE's read on Wisdom started out as what would be a hard bus if GE is scum, and he did it in a way that I don't think looks like distancing, in that I don't see it and think that it looks like someone coming up with what they think is a legitimate reason to take issue with their partner's play (especially when Wisdom would be the most competent scum player out of the three of them on that scum team), I see it and think that it looks like someone noticing Wisdom play way off from their usual perception of his play and then stumbling over it trying to firm up a read on him. but moving on, I have the opposite impression you seem to of this, don't really care that it was blatantly wrong - scum just do not overtly try to claim that they're reading two of their partners' posts as a mason soft, and no, it was not an excuse even though it's a misguided line of reasoning, he actually followed through on it D2 after Varsoon flipped with no hesitation at all instead of attempting to find some bullshit reason to get out of it.

even something like "oops, guess I was wrong about them softing masons, I still think Wisdom is town" would have been fine here had he been scum and when I was in a scenario where I was scum and I had faked role info that "confirmed" my partner as town, I would have done something similar if it had gone south (they were a motivator and motivated me N1 and the town vig N2 and I was attempting to claim that this made them confirmed town, I would have just said "WTF motivator was a scum role?" and argued my way out of it if she had been lynched). not the *exact* same situation, but the same principle would apply here, so...

/shrug

Now this is logic I understand re;GE, your earlier stuff about him didn't make any sense (at least to me).

One thing i dont get is...
Cakez keeps bouncing back to GE, when role wise i would be the most likely to be scum from his PoV, yet he called me something like confirmed town:

This seems super simple to me
I'm taking Luna as basically conftown now, so I want to lynch PK and if it's not him, have Luna block Pie again
Or she can block me if she so wishes to try to test around

(I still dont understand why but for the sake of argument let's say he believes that).
Don't you think scum him would be 1v1ing me right now? u.u

I'm bouncing around on GE to analyze Pie, not because I think GE is scum. I said that earlier.

Don't you think scum him would be 1v1ing me right now? u.u

I think he 1. probably can't come up with any convincing argument on your play, or 2. can't push you strategically because the current plan covers you anyway, so pushing you would just lead to the plan being executed and him losing.

if you read the nuance of his posts closely, though, he isn't pushing GE, he is pushing me - this, on the other hand, is something that he *would* do as scum because he has no real other option to get out of the plan I'm attempting to enact besides pushing pisskop, which he already tried to do yesterday without success.

Or I just think she's obvtown at this point
I am down to either you or PK. The fact PK has disappeared now that the pressure on him has gone away is a really obvious scumtell, but your plan has me baffled since it would leave PK, easily the scummiest player alive, alone.

What a shitty place to pagetop lol

[pieguyn]

if you feel really really strongly about it, I wouldn't be opposed to switching the plan around so that Luna blocks pisskop instead of GE and GE survives to the end. I don't think what you're saying about him "disappearing" is even true, though, and again he just doesn't look like scum to me.

go back and read starting from 3044. the reason scum-pisskop would continue to react the way he did there instead of accepting the plan where he wins is... ?

[pisskop]

,

[SirCakez]

if you feel really really strongly about it, I wouldn't be opposed to switching the plan around so that Luna blocks pisskop instead of GE and GE survives to the end. I don't think what you're saying about him "disappearing" is even true, though, and again he just doesn't look like scum to me.

go back and read starting from 3044. the reason scum-pisskop would continue to react the way he did there instead of accepting the plan where he wins is... ?

I would prefer that yes

I went back and looked at that post and I think the reason why scum!Pisskop wouldn't go along with that plan is because it conflicted with what he was pushing in thread at the time.

[pieguyn]

/shrug

does anyone have any objections to Cakez lynch, pisskop block, lynch or clear pisskop -> lynch Luna?

[pisskop]

le sigh.

I dont think blocking proves anything because scum cant kill

[pisskop]

But sure.

cakez is a lynch

[SirCakez]

I mean obviously I'd rather not be lynched but other then that no

[Gamma Emerald]

back

[Luna Fox]

Apparently no one has anything else to say with the obvious lack of posts.

[pisskop]

Well, we could always happily ever after.

Ive kinda always wanted to do that.

[pieguyn]

we're not happily ever after'ing.

what people need to do is either raise an objection to 3355, or we go ahead and proceed under that plan.

[SirCakez]

^
As much as it pains me to get mislynched for the 30th time (I shit you not, I did a count one day and it was over 20+ times) it's probably for the best

[Luna Fox]

i guess

Vote: Cakez

[Nahdia]

uhg.

i guess.

VOTE: sircakez

[Nahdia]

this just feels wrong

[pieguyn]

this just feels wrong

unvote:

what, specifically, is giving you reservations over it? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

[Nahdia]

idk. i just dont get what the heck is going on with this game, really. i guess we can lynch cakez. i dont see any better plan.

[pieguyn]

do you want any more time to think things over or do you think we might as well go ahead with it?

[Nahdia]

at this point i consider further thinking just overthinking so yolo

[pieguyn]

vote: Cakez (L-1)

anyway, Luna blocks pisskop tonight

[pisskop]

pie attempt to over control the game is noted i hope

VOTE: cakez

[SirCakez]

Was town, but you knew that already
Block PK tonight

[GuyInFreezer]

VC

SirCakez (4):

Luna Fox, Nahdia, pieguyn, pisskop

Not Voting:

Gamma Emerald, SirCakez

With 6 alive, 4 to lynch