In post 592, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 590, -Grey- wrote: In post 589, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 588, -Grey- wrote:So, Gamma is voting me for voting Naomi over a slip, but completely ignoring 2F who is not only sheeping my push but advancing with it after Gamma stated in thread that he doesn't believe it's a slip.
Town Gamma would have picked up on 2F continuing to push what he considers a non-slip and voted him.
Possible Gamma/2F team. (I read 2F as possible scum for other reasons)
VOTE: Gamma
I acknowledged his vote and stated why I don't SR it when I voted you.
And it's full of shit because he continued pushing her for the slip after you whined about it not being one and I hadn't even been posting.
You're dodging him and voting me even though he's the one actively pushing.
His vote comes from the fact she knew about encryptors from another game.
Good point, I'd forgotten that. TF argues this point later himself and it's well-taken. I think if TF were Naomi's scumbuddy he'd probably do this in a lower-effort way.
In post 600, TwoFace wrote: In post 291, TwoFace wrote: In post 236, Asphodel wrote:I know you're still reading through, but when you're done I'd appreciate an explanation of why you think 110 reads TvT, especially how it makes Grey look town.
Why are you worried about how it makes grey look?
Aspho, you never answered my question
I knew I'd forgotten something in my earlier posts! I was interested in why Naomi thought Ircher looked town because he was my top scumread and at the time she was pretty neutral for me. I thought I'd learn something about that. Then I realized--how was she getting that Grey was town from one of Ircher's posts? That confused me more than the Ircher townread.
In post 666, Naomi-Tan wrote:Well I tried..
For those of you who have been reading my posts directed at Two face with confusion; Two face is the type of player that falls heavily to confirm bais. once TF gets an idea in their heads its hard to get it out. So I been asking probing questions knowing they are town as I know me and Gray are town to try and get them to firstly decide that Red!Me and Red!Gray do not exist on the same team no matter what and then to get them to understand that we are both green.
I failed to do so. But thats fine. I'm sure TF will eventually shift his perceptions on his own. This is also why I been ignoring Greys comments. I feel it would of distracted two face from my attempt.
TF identified that about himself in post 48.
In post 671, Ircher wrote: In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:Fine. I REALLY WANTED to get a hard townread out of this, but since no one knows proper play I have to be the IC of this game.
I am an Ascetic Enabler. I was hoping Ascetics would come forward and claim so I could have townreads to start with. The proper play with the Ascetic modifier is to claim in your first post or so. However, no one seems to get that, so I decided to go hamfisted and link to the last game I played with an Ascetic. STILL no one got it, mostly because no one bothered to read it. So I now have to fucking depants before I can use my role info to find town.
Either scum are ascetic or kry has an ascetic.
There are plenty of people who hadn't seen Gamma's posts. I know if I'd been an ascetic I wouldn't have known what to do with it. I doubt a lot of other people with either fewer completed games or less activity in this game would've known what to do either.
In post 700, Alisae wrote: In post 697, Asphodel wrote:Why do you think this vote without conviction is more red than other votes without conviction that have happened this game?
Have you expressed this sentiment (voting w/o conviction is scummy) in any previous games?
First question I don't really understand what your asking. If you're asking me why I think it's scummy, I think that all votes when they are casted matter and quite frankly say "I think this person is scummy" unless it's RVS, then it's to apply pressure. We're also way out of RVS now.
Gin was probably trying to see how I would respond under pressure.
But I think that's something that moreso applies later within the day.
Also I when I voted All Alone I believed that they are scum and I still kinda do.
As for the 2nd question, I don't understand how I'm supposed to answer this.
Q1: That's fair. I was asking why you were thinking GnT's vote was scummier than some of the other votes which seemed more like pressure votes. At the time I had some of Grey's posts in my mind, but I can see putting more weight in later posts when we're further out of RVS.
Q2: Basically I'm asking if there are any other games in which you had become suspicious of someone for voting without conviction.
In post 701, Alisae wrote:Also @Asphodel, don't talk about my ongoing games please. I think that's against site rules, is it not?
I don't think I said anything out of line in regards to those. If I understand correctly I'm not allowed to speculate about your alignment in those games or discuss what's happened, but I think all I did was mention that you were currently in two other games.