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If someonewerehated and hated abilities were active, they'd probably claim as soon as they entered the game :/. Plus I don't think any wagons are getting close to lynch range at this point of the game.
I really don't get your point Creature.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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sounds goodIn post 110, SpyreX wrote:Help me.lynch dreal then
VOTE: Drealwhateverthefuck
drealmerz have you played with creature before?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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He's basically always like this... and I actually think he's towntelling pretty hard.In post 125, drealmerz7 wrote:I don't think creature and I have never played a completed game together before
As town he speaks whatever is on his mind and tries to brute force the setup or game. That's what his massclaim idea and paranoia about hated feels like - Spyrex basically articulated it, he's just looking at the list of cards and trying to figure out what scum may have picked.
Titus, I'm not really seeing drealmerz town, can you explain it a bit?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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I'm not really sure how to read you specifically though, I just read you like I would read people in general. All I really see is him jumping on a LHF wagon and just awkward early-game posts which I don't townread.In post 137, Titus wrote:Read Drealmerz as if he's me with less experience.
If Creature's trying to brute force the game, why is he opposed to a selective massclaim?
Creature doesn't seem actively opposed to a selective massclaim, it's just that town has showed that we're not going to massclaim and now that there a wagon against him so I don't think he's going to try to.
Also Maria is not the kind of person who breaks under pressure lol.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Not really? If you mean approach to the game in general, the thinking-aloud thing and trying to brute force through the game is something I do too. If you mean the massclaim idea, then yes I agree that that's a bad idea but Creature never really pushed for it, he just thought about it in the open.In post 160, drealmerz7 wrote:you can understand my aversion to his approach though, yes? I generally don't like to vote very early in a game, people giving such confidence in their reads so fast and feeling comfortable enough to make a vote takes more time for me, usually - here I got immediate scumpings and at the least, voted to express how seriously I take the issue of ability/role spec
I mean getting reads takes time for me too, but I find voting in places that I feel would lead to interesting reads/places I'm not really sure about helps me get out of that position fast enough.
Also, I actually like this post.
VOTE: Kisoni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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two people is hardly a wagonIn post 165, Maxous wrote:why are we wagoning him?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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I really don't think people are gullible enough to derpclaim their picks just because someone suggested a massclaim though...In post 176, drealmerz7 wrote:
1.) I too like thinking aloud (it gets me in trouble all of the time) and talking about all contingencies (I love setup talk) - but only so far - no roles or abilities, at all - balance, mechanics, excellentIn post 166, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Not really? If you mean approach to the game in general, the thinking-aloud thing and trying to brute force through the game is something I do too. If you mean the massclaim idea, then yes I agree that that's a bad idea but Creature never really pushed for it, he just thought about it in the open.
2.) he didn't push for it, that's not what I find scummy (obviously because it's not there) - my aversion and SR comes from even suggesting the idea BECAUSE it could be a kind of a passive way to see if scum can get ANY information - someone who doesn't know better, someone who is excited that their queen is in play, even just 1 tiny thing, it could give the slightest bit of information up to scum, seemingly innocently enough, but it is something. "oh I wasn't ability-fishing I was just asking what ppl thought about mass-claiming, I didn't mean to cause 3 ppl to tell me 9 cards"
it's not like I'm reading it HARD that way, not even close, but it is on my radar as definitely possible - and not meaning to keep on about it either, I'm ready to move on, was just clarifying for you
but yeah i'm getting you now
actually if scum take a tracker to find PRs it has pro-town utility. dunno if anyone thought of this thoughDunnstral wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Titus went for ninja as town
also if there were a way to find out exactly how many cards are missing, is it better to say so after people claimed missing cards or before?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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got itIn post 223, Titus wrote:@giga, That's why I said everyone should claim how many missing cards they have, but not yet claim what they are. A structured massclaim is best but New Amsterdam and I have yet to work out details.
Eventually, we will get more info and fake claims become impossible.
i'm actually liking the missing cards massclaim now that i took some more time out to look into the set-up (i only skimmed the rules since i was asked to replace in at an inconvenient time irl) so we should probably hammer that out sooni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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@titus, it's something everyone can figure out and i might be wrong so i don't think there's a need to crumb it
also i thought the implication was that we'd only be claiming the amount of missing cards :/
and also, uzi, do you really think scum are going to claim to have their picks randomized? like yeah he could be lying but then i don't think he'd pick something decent like a jailkeeper, he'd probably pick negative utility that town won't pick.
(i'm missing zero cards btw)i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Scum are at a disadvantage when it comes to role-madness (at least I think), so I'd agree that it's just anti-alignment but far more likely town imo.In post 252, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Giga: I just don't buy why he didn't try. I guess it's more anti-alignment if anything but it still pings me.
this too but idk if panicking is the right wordkraska77 wrote:Like I don't get how Uzi would panic about useless details and completely ignore the bigger picture with regards to vifami no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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if he were scum, wouldn't his buddies just pick for him :/ ?
at least that's what i think. he just seems like a pointless slot to sort after he claimed to not bid because it's just such a town thing to doi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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I think the +3 comes from the fact that there are multiple ways to die in this game. Fruit vendors can basically become psuedo vigs if people with allergies claim
kraska, why is kison a better vote than uzi?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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@TitusIn post 103, Quipla wrote:DECK x 42 - DISCARD PILE x 0
and i think the trump card makes 1 more, so 43
idk so a fruit vendor doesn't accidentally kill them?drealmerz7 wrote:
can you hold my hand and tell me WTF anyone would claim to have an allergy?In post 270, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:if people with allergies claim
yeah i agree (calling maria easily pressured was ???) but you seem to also think that uzi is scummykraska77 wrote:Coz the maria vote feels odd. I can't quite put my finger in it but it does
Pedit: @giga
idk i just feel like you should be voting uzi for some reasoni no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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idk man i just learned that pgos aren't supposed to claim
also i don't think ascetics should claim in this set-up because all ascetics are doctors iirci no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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fair enough thenIn post 283, kraska77 wrote:I'm not gonna go gung ho on uzi when he seems to be a space cadet as either allignment...atleast not until I'm really positive her being scummy weird
deck has 42 cards in it at the momentkraska77 wrote:What does "deckx42" mean? Idgi.......i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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no it means the inverseIn post 288, kraska77 wrote:So.... does this mean all the trump card pool is cards that ppl have in the game rn?
and also i can confirm titus's math since i did it when i asked if i should reveal that there are 8 missing cards :/i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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23 players in the game (18 town + 5 mafia)
52 cards in a deck, times two is 104
everyone picks 3 cards, 23 * 3 is 69 so 69 cards max
43 cards are left, and we know we started with 104, so that means 61 were taken (104 - 43 = 61)
69 - 61 = 8 cards that were picked by someone in the bet but they didn't get (could be one person per card, but someone may have missed 2 cards and only have 1)
does that help?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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is this your entrance every gameIn post 303, gerryoat wrote:How the fuck do you guys talk so much. I'm gonna read now. hold on. Also I need to go out in about an hour so after that i cant participate until the am.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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The main utility of it is to make sure scum can't fakeclaim as easily if we require everyone to say how many cards they have. If scum picked something suspicious, they can't omit it from their claim and are instead forced to pick a card they didn't pick, and that can eventually flip (confirming that they didn't pick it) or be counterclaimed.In post 321, Fishythefish wrote:Is there a reason people are claiming how many cards they missed out on? I can't immediately see the point (though I also can't see any problem with it).
PEdit: Also what Titus said
still deciding how i feel about uzi in all honesty but he's not a bad votei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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why did you back off from voting kison??
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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^TitusIn post 250, kraska77 wrote:I got all the cards I wantedi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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can you answer the question thoughIn post 397, MariaR wrote:eh I guess that is backing off nvmi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Can you explain this a bit more? I don't really see MoI as an easy lynch.In post 412, Transcend wrote:Reads look more like "who can i get lynched the easiest?" as opposed to "who do i think is scum?".i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah that's my pointIn post 420, Transcend wrote:Moi doesn't get lynched v often
so why is max going for easy lynches if his scumreads are you and MoI?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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What made you change your mind about Vifam?
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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that doesn't really make a lynch easy thoughIn post 424, Transcend wrote:Bc moi has no content and i ain't scummy
transcend your reads aren't making sensei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yeah??In post 426, Transcend wrote:Do they ever
which is why i have no idea what to make of you thinking in an almost different dimension than i ami no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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my read on transcend (sleep didn't help)In post 430, rb wrote:what are u even sleeping on?
yeah but how am i going to sort you if i can't understand your shit lmfaoIn post 431, Transcend wrote:They make sense to me and that's all that matters.
I'm not here to appease 17 other people with my ever so grandiloquent reads
like idk i think your reads not making sense is a scumtell for you (Open 646 you were pushing on Luna for basically moonlogic, and in sonia's normal you were pushing on obvtown slots and your partner) but you're not really pinging me?
i can assure you he is :^)In post 495, rb wrote:I need vifam to shitpost more so i can be sure he's town.
he's one of my weaker townreads tbh, but mechanically he's like almost definitely town
VOTE: VedithIn post 496, rb wrote:
VOTE: VedithIn post 494, Vedith wrote:No, Trans can change his!
Flashwagon time
All aboard the Vedith train
sounds good
the rest of your post makes sense but this doesn't :/In post 328, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I didn't see a reason not to bid but I guess looking back now he may have been confused about the set-up as he thought this game was based on Yu-Gi-Oh! so he might have just said screw it.
like i'm pretty sure vifam didn't actually think this game is based on yu gi oh and the fact you brought that up just seems really weird but i'll laugh if i'm actually wrong about that
@Drealmerz, who specifically from the LUV defenders pings you the hardest?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yes actuallyIn post 538, drealmerz7 wrote:would you like that?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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what about those quotes did you find significant enough to keep in memory?In post 371, Drone wrote:The quotes are things I'd like to keep in memory, by the way.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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kison's not missing anyIn post 381, Kison wrote:I am not missing any cards.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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actually this reminds me, there are a lot of 2-vote wagons that are kind of just sitting there and i'd like to change that. i'm just not really sure where to startIn post 557, Titus wrote:There's 5 or 6 wagons
i guess anyone else who doesn't like the uzi vote should try to find some consensus. i'm still trying to poke around and find something that works for me because uzi is an uninteresting vote to me right now
i'd probably be voting for maxous if not vedith but transcend's read on him is bugging me and i feel like i should be sorting transcend first
wait rb, aren't you townreading transcend? what seems town about him to you?
also thisCreature wrote:"Lurker lynches are bad" aka Scum Hideout
Do you have all 3 of your cards? If you have missing cards don't tell us what it isVecna wrote:Hate to do this, and its rather uncharacteristic of me, but ill not be participating for another 24hours or so. Got my gf visiting this weekend so havent had time yet to read up.
Worry not, my participation is coming and then Ill convince everyone to lynch transcendi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Do you mean you like the wagonees for scum or their composition for town?In post 568, Titus wrote:I like both major wagons ftr. We should try to consolidate.
also i moved my vote from kison to vedith so there's only one major wagon now but that's semantics
@RB, can you go into your Transcend read because he's kind of a priority sort for me and I'm honestly stumped on him??i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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dave how can you setup spec people into roles without claims? like i've done what you're saying you're doing in PYP X/Y before but it can't work the same way here because the roles are far more complicated, can it...?
like i know you can read people sometimes and say "oh this person is probably a doctor" because i do that but is it really applicable in this setup?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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but this set-up is totally different because there's two of each card, so it's actually plausible that scum deliberately picked identical draft numbers... like i'm pretty low in the draft and i'm surprised to have gotten the cards i did.In post 590, davesaz wrote:Pedit: No, there's a thing with the numbers which sorts sets of people into (1 scum in this set). I've never seen more than one. It's only a rough way to pigeonhole because sometimes there are zero.
every time a PYP set-up runs this discussion is brought up and I've never seen it actually be helpful (when i did it i ended up being needlessly paranoid of a townread of mine because i read into them wrong), and now that there's less of a mechanical disadvantage to intentionally botching the draft it's just more confusing. like what if the scumteam has people in it who are willing to fuck with that (like i could totally see dunnstral doing that)? Without like a single flip it's just guesswork that COULD be useful, but it's just easier to scumhunt...
like i'd like to know who you suspect based on this speculation though because if that person is actually scummy then by all means i'll shut up about this, but??
wait really that just makes this interaction weirderrb wrote:i find it rly weird that youd hate on my style when youve seen me firsthand violate entire scumteams in 2 separate games now. Im more thinky than the thinkiest thinkeri no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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kraska how are you townreading Maria, Vedith, and Max? Those are the only reads of yours that aren't computing with meIn post 939, kraska77 wrote:Oh I missed dreal's missing card claim
Okay so.........
Wanna know how rb can possibly have him as scum after claiming to bid on a card like that?
also idg why people suddenly flew shit at kraska for having townreads, i basically have the same ones as her :/
i'd probably join you on transcend but his wagon's kind of sketchy besides like you and maybe vecna from what i remember tbhi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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my dilemma is that the uzi wagon is mostly townreads, but I don't think Uzi is that scummy
while transcend is suspicious but his wagon is too :/
creature how do you feel about McMennoi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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vedith maybe we can be friends just this onceIn post 947, Vedith wrote:
Go vote somewhere else, Giga.In post 945, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:oh hey
VOTE: McMenno
kraska transcend isn't happening bc i said so
Not with me!i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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kison's the only scummy person on that wagon though :/In post 954, Creature wrote:tbh I wouldn't mind nuking the LUV wagon composition.
unless you mean moving the first four people to a better wagon, then I'm all for thati no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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No clue, but I'd rather vote with Vedith than McMenno, Maria, and Maxous and who else besides kraska who voted for Transcend ://In post 957, davesaz wrote:What's Vedith doing that's town?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Spoiler:
VOTE: Vedith
@rb, Vedith > Maria wagon all the way because at least I can read Maria later in the game when she actually attempts to do shit.
kraska drealmerz and creature should sheep.
don't really care for the other wagons options either (jackel is ok i guess but i'm not feeling it)
mcmenno is still scum ftr
@Titus, don't you think you're giving McMenno a townread a bit too easily? Yeah, him not claiming to have a repeat card when the massclaim is screwed up is pro-town but it's not like lying in a semi-open set-up that's solvable is a smart move for scum anyway when town puts this much diligence into stopping fakeclaims. plus if he had lied he could have been counterclaimed which needlessly puts scum into a 1v1. dunno i want your perspective on this a bit more
i can't explain my read on him quite yet so i'm OK voting elsewhere but i just... want this to be known for the futurei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i take the time to make quality, game advancing shitposts.In post 1209, rb wrote:Wow that picturei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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hey rb, creature, vifam, kraska, titus, fishy, dave, and drealmerz
and i guess anyone else that's town
we need to powertown the fuck out of scum, and since giving reads is now a thing everyone's doing this is what i'm at (townreads are ordered, everything else isn't):
Spoiler: Giggles's Reads <3
at the moment i think Vedith is the best vote, so if you townread him and are one of the names in large print i'd like to know why and who your alternative is. i would rather focus on a lynch that hits a scummy player with set-up information that supports their scumminess rather than vice versa so keep that in mind.
i'm not too thrilled about the card rig and it's p r o b a b l y from scum (doc disabler, ninja, shit-ton of fruit allergies (and a fruit vendor with jacks!!), and beloved aren't worth opening up a neighborhood until we know who's in that neighborhood so), so i'd be down with autolynching anyone with a 4 of clubs too btw
if two people have the four of clubs, should the one who wasn't able to get their rig through claim? it's not really a hard guilty but it would help POE whoever rigged the deck (although going by just that could suck because derptown could have rigged the deck wrong, not that lynching someone who can't use their role right is a terrible idea)
also i don't even know where in this game i left off so
fishy basically said everything else i wanted to about the setup, although i disagree that spades isn't that bad during the night (it's worse!)i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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no need to be sorryIn post 1809, Fishythefish wrote:Why is Vedith scummy - and what is that set-up information that supports that? Sorry if I'm being blind.
at this point my definition of a scumread is "not a townread" so really in a smaller game vedith would probably be a nullread here but
i don't really like vedith's play this game because of his obvious lack of scumhunting (or townhunting or just gamesolving, but that's basically tablewide) and more importantly his dynamic with Rb feels off from his side.
obviously a lot of people can be pegged into the category of "not scumhunting", but Vedith is on the more active side and yet he's useless. most of his ISO is just throwing shit at Rb (who's trying to get town to get its act together and is really obviously town) and shitposting. like yeah maria is shitposting too but it feels somewhat more... genuine? i guess is the right way to put it. vedith just reads emptily, and curbing town efforts to work together before it really starts is ultimately pro-scum. plus his vote on mcmenno feels like a bus tbh
he's also a candidate for picking the governor card and scum probably got to one if it was picked so quickly into the draft
with uzi, he just reads to me as incredibly awkward but from what i've seen from him on this site it's definitely a personality thing and the description of him being the D1 mislynch in a large game is really apt (i can't exactly talk about it just yet but i really really agree here). meta-ing him would probably be wise
hi vedith~ <3Vedith wrote:
"I'll vote Vedith, tell me why"In post 1809, Fishythefish wrote:I'd be very OK with a Vedith lynch. I don't townread him, and his wagon looks on the townie side. I'm currently happier with the Uzi wagon - I see nothing townie about him, and several fairly small but decent points that make him scummy.
Why is Vedith scummy - and what is that set-up information that supports that? Sorry if I'm being blind.
god the giggle emoticon (or the vedith emoticon as i've caught myself calling it in my head once) is really fucking creepy when you look at it up close
vedith is scum for using , add that to the casei no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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lmao i'd totally be acting like that as scum tooIn post 1818, Maxous wrote:Vedith is a high draft pick and is acting unreasonably cocky about not getting lynched.
put 2+2 together pls
in role-madness that's naii no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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tbh i'd be for thisIn post 1821, Fishythefish wrote:I think I'd like the governors to claim. Hidden governors are a terrible idea - at least if they are in the open we can lynch the hell out them if they use the ability. Stealth vigging of them is FBM. The hidden bulletproof stopping a kill is waaaay less important than a possible missed lynch.
Anyone see a reason not to demand these claims on pain of lynch?
they force a no-lynch instead of a lynch on anyone iirc. (the anyone part for sure, i only think it ends the day)MariaR wrote:can govs ot the lynch off only themselves or anyone
Max, how does Town benefit from having the governors not claim?i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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yes i know i just forgot because i only have one window open and don't like using tabsIn post 1828, Fishythefish wrote:It does end the day (source: the rules)
sometimes i wonder if the rest of the table has read the rules though.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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fishy read 1371
i missed it bc i dont read a lot of what goes on day one but it's a fair point, we could just be giving scum royalty vig/stealth vig targets. and based on my last pyp experience vigs are basically the most important thing for scum to take
sorry vecna :/i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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