Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Honestly, my death is nothing short of a Christmas present. Thank you scum!

i agree

I'm not opposed to an AA9-wagon but I would like to know why Math thinks that slot is lynchbait. Magna's votes sucked (but his replace-out felt town), milkshake was useless, and we haven't seen much of AA9 yet so it's not like we're lynching someone who's actively playing

and

looking scummy (which would be like... actual lynchbait).

Also, with the beloved claim a Spyrex lynch is out of the question for today.

UNVOTE:

Just an idea of where my head is at:

Out of the question for lynching for the majority of the game: {Drealmerz, Fishy, Vecna, -Grey-}
Will consider with a really fucking rock solid case but is otherwise a hard townread: {Davesaz, Dunnstral, Kison, Mathblade, TWIE (ehhhhh)}

everyone else is basically fair game for rope

VOTE: McMenno

^ probably my first choice, this absolutely should have been the vig target from last night

[McMenno]

I find your rocksolid townpile questionable. especially kraska need to be looked at and vifamslot just disappeared into nowhere at the end. also a reminder that effort does not indicate alignment

[drealmerz7]

giga, I know we barely know each other and this is a rather personal confession, but,

I have a small 'd', not a big one

[Kison]

Also, with the beloved claim a Spyrex lynch is out of the question for today.

Good point. Missed that it would be active today.

UNVOTE: SpyreX

[davesaz]

also a reminder that effort does not indicate alignment

The motivation behind what effort is there can be AI. Much more AI than the amount of effort.

[McMenno]

giga, I know we barely know each other and this is a rather personal confession, but,

I have a small 'd', not a big one

it's not the size that matters it's how you use it

[drealmerz7]

no doubts

and so that I don't have 2 consecutive shitposts of non-content

one of the main things I was going to do with this Day was to push and probe titus to try and get a better read

pfffff

[Fishythefish]

@Mathblade: I'm not planning to respond to your latest posts on me any further. I don't think your attacks today are remotely scummy, and I think we both have better ways to spend our time than continuing to argue over them. If you or anyone else disagrees (now or after further reading), shout and I'll answer any questions/accusations you still have.

[Fishythefish]

Would consider lynching: AA9, gerryoat, davesaz, Kison, LUV, TWIE, McMenno. Pleasantly small pool, actually.

@giga: you have dave, Kison and TWIE of those as probtown. Why?

[Fishythefish]

@Dunn: I'm guessing the answer's yes, but did you revive the two?

[Fishythefish]

Would consider lynching: AA9, gerryoat, davesaz, Kison, LUV, TWIE, McMenno. Pleasantly small pool, actually.

@giga: you have dave, Kison and TWIE of those as probtown. Why?

Answering one of these for myself: dave on Maria doesn't look very likely bussing. He definitely increased the chances of Maria's lynch substantially.

[Fishythefish]

Ditto Kison. On day 2, just after Jackel claimed Vengeful and things were up in the air, Kison pushed pretty hard on Maria. This could well have lead to a lynch.

TWIE I don't see any reason to think is town.

[davesaz]

Would consider lynching: AA9, gerryoat, davesaz, Kison, LUV, TWIE, McMenno. Pleasantly small pool, actually.

@giga: you have dave, Kison and TWIE of those as probtown. Why?

Answering one of these for myself: dave on Maria doesn't look very likely bussing. He definitely increased the chances of Maria's lynch substantially.

I'm kinda annoyed with myself that I didn't just vote her anyway despite the faulty reasons others were voting her.
I wanted that lynch to go slower so that we could get more info to read associations from, but I thought my scumread d2 was pretty good.
Titus's hard defense also gave me pause. I knew it couldn't be scum/scum defense, but WK was a possibility and Titus as scum will hang herself given sufficient rope.

McMenno's response to the day is pretty sketchy. I've had a mild scumread there the whole game. He'd be my preferred lynch from your list. Of those I suspect gerryoat and LUV the least but I'm probably wrong on one of them. Just not sure which one.

[Fishythefish]

I'm actually much more interested in Maria's day 2 than day 3. Day 3 went really fast - her lynch felt quite inevitable from near the start. Day 2 she could easily have been lynched, but wasn't - so that's where the scum were making interesting decisions.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

For Dave and Kison, you basically hit the nail on the head — Kison maybe less so because I can see him being scum hyperfocused on his own partner (Kison has basically been pushing Maria and LUV all game so..?) but town is more likely. I was hoping to see how he approaches the aftermath of the lynch and I think the outcome has been town thus far.

TWIE obviously comes more from Vifam, but the townread based on play got stale. It just never really made sense to me that scum!Vifam actually picks his cards at random or takes a card like the 8 of spades (...right? i have to check my spreadsheet later) and then lies about randomizing his cards. Town picking at random makes sense.

Agreed on the D2 Maria push being more interesting but from what I remember in my mod-ISO when making that wagon summary, it never really went that far? Dunn brought up earlier that we should look at people who voted Jackal so he can shoot Maria and I want to agree, but besides Milkshake I don't really remember any of the votes being awful (Kraska was obvtown and lead the push and I supported the Jackel-so-he-can-shoot idea...).

[davesaz]

I'm actually much more interested in Maria's day 2 than day 3. Day 3 went really fast - her lynch felt quite inevitable from near the start. Day 2 she could easily have been lynched, but wasn't - so that's where the scum were making interesting decisions.

Yes, those who fought against my push or made sketchy pushes of their own and hasn't later been shown to be town should be suspect.
Yes, I should be looking at that myself, and plan to. But RN I need to shop for dinner so I'm suggesting this lead to town in case y'all want to get started on it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I find your rocksolid townpile questionable. especially kraska need to be looked at and vifamslot just disappeared into nowhere at the end. also a reminder that effort does not indicate alignment

who said i'm scumreading you for a lack of effort

[TheWayItEnds]

Would consider lynching: AA9, gerryoat, davesaz, Kison,

LUV, TWIE, McMenno.

Pleasantly small pool, actually.

this is my exact list of preferred lunches tbh.

Plus maxous

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why not mcmenno

[TheWayItEnds]

Those 5 plus Spyrex is what jumped out during my read.

I'd have to look back and see what I liked about menno

[TheWayItEnds]

Math I don't really like. But I thought vedith was town.

Kraska I didn't like but how stupid would you have to be to claim that vig. Unless someone knows that grey is always a vi.

Luv and menno I guess I wouldn't be upset about lynching, I'd just prefer the others first.

[Dunnstral]

Unless the other card reviver chose the same thing as me they didn't revive anything

[Dunnstral]

Nah it went to where I wanted it to go so they didn't choose anything

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Nah it went to where I wanted it to go so they didn't choose anything

Can the other card reviver revive the card at the end of the day?

also idk if the 2 of hearts was the best choice now that i'm thinking about it

scum probably know who has it (especially if mcscummy is in fact scum) so??

it's probably fine though if it's who i think it is

twie's reads make sense and i basically feel the same way/can jibe with the thought process so i'm ok leaving him as a townlean

[davesaz]

Actions can occur anytime during the phase the power is active.
Do we want to give advice to the other reviver if it's active?