This is the type of thing I'm talking about. You sound like scum trying to deflect things onto other people. I even said in that post that I was aware that having a wagon on you probably influenced your change in behavior. But I don't think that it completely explains why you're acting so drastically differentIn post 4043, The Ascended Masters wrote:"Flailing all over the place" - I've been responding to people's arguments against me, I've been pushing Nos, I've been... occasionally offering commentary outside of that? How is that flailing all over the place?In post 4029, Skrub wrote:You're erratic because you're flailing all over the place and trying way too hard to justify your vote on nosterafu. Yeah you're more active now, but the way you're talking and playing is completely different from how you were on day 1. I know that a wagon is on you now, but that doesn't explain why your posts come across as forced and desperate. I don't know why I feel like you don't believe in the nos wagon. That's just the impression that I'm getting
Yes, I'm completely different from Day 1. There's a wagon on me. Remember when you were completely different when there was a big wagon on you?Or did you forget now that the lynch looks more like me/Nos? If you think that I'm forcing a case on Nos, I'd be happy to see where you think I'm forcing it. Do you have any particular arguments that you thought were weak?
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That's just not trueIn post 4048, The Ascended Masters wrote:
Or it's a fast wagon 101.In post 4044, Skrub wrote:
Its not rocket science. One second he had no votes and nobody cared about him. The next second someone said "nos hasn't done anything so lets lynch him!" and then a shit ton of people popped out of the wood work to drop a vote and disappear. Its mislynch 101In post 4037, The Ascended Masters wrote:
I saw people vote Nosferatu. Show me why they are obvious scum.In post 4029, Skrub wrote:Go back and look at the posts where people dropped their votes on him and it becomes clear as day.
Did you know that sometimes townies vote people and wagons grow really quickly? Like the Zanos wagon?
Wagon speed doesn't actually have anything to do with alignment; there are a lot of players in this game in particular who are amendable to fast wagons and so calling a player "town" for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with what they've done this game is typically setting yourself up for failure.-
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You could bus your buddy Kraska.In post 4049, SpyreX wrote:Orrrr once again I've been looking for something that wasn't the awful two wagons to get people behind and yea that's gonna be a lurker in this day 2 shitstorm jesus-
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I completely agree you are scum.In post 4051, SpyreX wrote:Again if you pile of dull tacks actually think this is deep scum.machinations I'm clearly the scum for fucks sake-
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"So drastically different"? How am I acting so drastically different? Why does that matter?In post 4050, Skrub wrote:This is the type of thing I'm talking about. You sound like scum trying to deflect things onto other people. I even said in that post that I was aware that having a wagon on you probably influenced your change in behavior. But I don't think that it completely explains why you're acting so drastically different
If I'm acting differently than I was before, then that means... that I'm acting differently than I was before. I share the same alignment that I did yesterday. What point are you trying to make here?-
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smith started the wagon.
Nacho joined it and I thought I should pay attention since I know Nacho has a habit of being a good scum hunter when town and he often buses when he is scum. Plus with the possibility of it being mb, that means he could be scum for one team and the other team be who he is scum hunting for, so regardless of how anyone is reading Nacho, it pays to pay attention to where Nacho is voting.
Spy joins in and he is my top scum read
I look at Nos's iso and see something that reminds me a lot of Mastin's game where Nos was the Cult Leader.
I vote Nos.
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Because the top two wagons were TAM &a Skrub.In post 4057, RachMarie wrote:Nosferatu (9): mhsmith0 , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , RachMarie , Vaxkiller , Cerberus v666 , Aristophanes , Expedience , PeregrineV
smith started the wagon.
Nacho joined it and I thought I should pay attention since I know Nacho has a habit of being a good scum hunter when town and he often buses when he is scum. Plus with the possibility of it being mb, that means he could be scum for one team and the other team be who he is scum hunting for, so regardless of how anyone is reading Nacho, it pays to pay attention to where Nacho is voting.
Spy joins in and he is my top scum read
I look at Nos's iso and see something that reminds me a lot of Mastin's game where Nos was the Cult Leader.
I vote Nos.
How is that a reviving of the wagon on Nos?
People were asking for consolidation.
You revived a wagon that if people actually cared about consolidation wouldn't exist.
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I made the point 5 years ago but you just want t keep asking a bunch of useless questions. The point is that I don't like how you're acting that's it. There doesn't need to be a super detailed reason behind everything that something thinks. I just don't like how you're acting. That's it. Call it a gut feeling or whatever that this is scum behaviorIn post 4056, The Ascended Masters wrote:
"So drastically different"? How am I acting so drastically different? Why does that matter?In post 4050, Skrub wrote:This is the type of thing I'm talking about. You sound like scum trying to deflect things onto other people. I even said in that post that I was aware that having a wagon on you probably influenced your change in behavior. But I don't think that it completely explains why you're acting so drastically different
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Mathblade, I'd really like you to explain how it makes sense that vifam, the gunsmith, was killed due to his investigation choice, by someone who doesn't use a gun? For bonus points, explain that connection without assuming a single scum faction has access to multiple kill flavors.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66021In post 4052, Skrub wrote:That's just not true
Look at the day 1 wagon. It was really fast. It hit scum.
There is nothing that prevents townies from voting a wagon into creation quickly. There is nothing that prevents townies from creating a scum wagon quickly. The "fast wagons are always mislynches" theory is based on scum somehow ramming through town mislynches by voting really really quickly which isn't really something that I've ever seen.-
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Mafia flag as having guns regardless of powers.In post 4061, Cerberus v666 wrote:Mathblade, I'd really like you to explain how it makes sense that vifam, the gunsmith, was killed due to his investigation choice, by someone who doesn't use a gun? For bonus points, explain that connection without assuming a single scum faction has access to multiple kill flavors.-
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I have one serious problem with this.In post 4040, MathBlade wrote:
Then the proper play is Vifam was killed for saying they'd investigate Kraska.In post 4034, DiamondSentinel wrote:
I go for the former. As far as I can tell, Drixx said that it was a poison, not an explosive. Now, this is dangerously close to the same setup spec I got into trouble with in Cyberpunk, but still, I'm willing to bet that the poison is delayed, and Vifam wasn't killed by it.In post 4031, MathBlade wrote:If poison was delayed Vifam would be alive.
Therefore Vifam was not killed by poison or poison is not delayed*
It is simple.
If Vifam's kill wasn't delayed and they know they'd show up as guilty they claimed PGO in response to the first hint of a tunnel. Town PGOs claim immediately. Read the Wiki.
This makes the MASSIVE assumption that scum are in the PT. I can't think of any characters this would fit flavor for. I don't scumread Kraska for anything that they've done, so until we find proof scum is in the PT, I say we don't lynch Kraska. Simple as that.
Now, if you scumread kraska for other reasons, then please tell me, but I haven't seen anything more worthy of a lynch than many many other people.“Why was I chosen?'
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In almost every game I've played there have been wagons that formed and went through quickly. And almost every time its a mislynch.In post 4065, The Ascended Masters wrote:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66021In post 4052, Skrub wrote:That's just not true
Look at the day 1 wagon. It was really fast. It hit scum.
There is nothing that prevents townies from voting a wagon into creation quickly. There is nothing that prevents townies from creating a scum wagon quickly. The "fast wagons are always mislynches" theory is based on scum somehow ramming through town mislynches by voting really really quickly which isn't really something that I've ever seen.-
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to be fair there was two scum factionsIn post 4065, The Ascended Masters wrote:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66021In post 4052, Skrub wrote:That's just not true
Look at the day 1 wagon. It was really fast. It hit scum.
There is nothing that prevents townies from voting a wagon into creation quickly. There is nothing that prevents townies from creating a scum wagon quickly. The "fast wagons are always mislynches" theory is based on scum somehow ramming through town mislynches by voting really really quickly which isn't really something that I've ever seen.-
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Nope. Mod confirmed that Jet would not detect the explosives/bio warefare and katanas kill flavors.In post 4068, MathBlade wrote:
Mafia flag as having guns regardless of powers.In post 4061, Cerberus v666 wrote:Mathblade, I'd really like you to explain how it makes sense that vifam, the gunsmith, was killed due to his investigation choice, by someone who doesn't use a gun? For bonus points, explain that connection without assuming a single scum faction has access to multiple kill flavors.“Why was I chosen?'
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I'm sorry MathBlade, but your theory on Kraska has too many holes in it. I can't support it at all.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
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