Mini 1830 - Game Over

[Manuel87]

Ill say it again there is no way House is scum.
There was no reason for him to get people off me and push the lynch on Eager. It would have been easy to push anyone (besides from Grendel maybe) that voted for me the next day because noone actually had a good reason to vote for me.

@malpascp: why do you call intent after that claim? Because Bullet-proof actually makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

If I'm not scum, you pretty much have to believe Huntress is.

Do you think Bullet-proof would be that unreasonable?

[House]

Ill say it again there is no way House is scum.
There was no reason for him to get people off me and push the lynch on Eager. It would have been easy to push anyone (besides from Grendel maybe) that voted for me the next day because noone actually had a good reason to vote for me.

@malpascp: why do you call intent after that claim? Because Bullet-proof actually makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

If I'm not scum, you pretty much have to believe Huntress is.

Do you think Bullet-proof would be that unreasonable?

I think four PR's would be that unreasonable.

[House]

Square was a JoaT, which makes bulletproof even MORE unreasonable due to the utility JoaT provides.

[Manuel87]

Square was a JoaT, which makes bulletproof even MORE unreasonable due to the utility JoaT provides.

You might have a point but i still dont think 4 PRs are that unreasonable although i havent played many games yet and its also her reason to vote you.
I was actually thinking about voting her if she claims a PR after holding it back for so long but the BP seems to fit thats why i want to know why malpascp calls intent on that claim.

If its you or her i would vote her but i think we should still consider other options since we still have time.

[House]

If its you or her i would vote her but i think we should still consider other options since we still have time.

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

[CCC]

gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.

Although if they'll lynch

me

, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.

Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?

[House]

gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.

Although if they'll lynch

me

, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.

Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?

No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.

[Manuel87]

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

One is still Gamma because he is sheeping you hard right now without thinking about the case you present or asking you any questions about it.
He is just following you blindly and that he wanted to vote Huntress over Gerry is also one of the reasons why i dont want to lynch her today.

Other one is malpascp i liked his early posts but after that 2 things caught my attention.

Can't think straight right now.
Should Huntress be claiming right now?
And who thinks we should go for a House lynch if Huntress flips town?
Pedit: doesn't really matter at this point, scum would do it for survival anyways

I dont like the silly guy play asking what Huntress should do. For me it doesnt fit his play.
Why would he ask about you now before the flip and before the Nightkill? My guess is Huntress is town and he wants to know if he can set up a lynch on you tomorrow if he keeps you alive tonight.

Bulletproof townie is a joke of a claim.

Intent to hammer

Not hammering so we can discuss more before night comes.
House, you planning on using your ability?

He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.
He was sure there have to be 3 scum because 2 scum would be unbalanced until House explained 3 scum would mean 2 misslynches.
Bulletproof balances out 3 scum quite well thats why i want to know why her claim is so that he wants to hammer her right after that post.

Jesus Christ you're so dead if Huntress flips town.

He also played dumb about the lolhammer his slot did when i mentioned it.
VOTE: malpascp

I dont see why you are so fixed on Gamma being town but after looking back at malpascp and also considering the lolhammer he is my top scumread now over Gamma.

I also think there is still 2 scum remaining since i believe that both you and Huntress are town and 3 scum vs 4 PRs seems balanced.
If he flips red his partner is probably Gerry or CCC.

[Gamma Emerald]

I may have sheeped him on Gerry, but I am voting Huntress for my own reason. And I voted first!

[CCC]

@malpascp: why do you call intent after that claim? Because Bullet-proof actually makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

Bulletproof makes some sense as a Town claim, but it makes even more sense as a Scum claim.

- It doesn't have night actions (the results of which would have to be guessed)
- It doesn't give Huntress any additional information to confirm the role
- If by some miracle she doesn't get lynched today, it gives scum perfect reason to

not

nightkill her
- Especially given that it would be the

fourth

PR claim, it's unlikely to be counterclaimed

What would possibly make a better scum claim?

[House]

He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.

If he was scum he could have easily justified hammering Huntress and had my support tomorrow if he left me alive.

Look at Gerry's play dude. He DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME UNTIL I DERAILED THE GAMMA WAGON AND STARTED PUSHING HUNTRESS.

His scumclaiming is all over the place, and the association with Huntress is so glaringly obvious it hurts.

[House]

I may have sheeped him on Gerry, but I am voting Huntress for my own reason. And I voted first!

^ Truth

[CCC]

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

My current thinking on this question:

If Huntress flips red (as expected) then Gerry will be my top remaining scumread.

If Huntress flips green (the unexpected outcome) then I will need to re-evaluate all my reads in the light of whoever gets nightkilled. In this situation, Gamma, House, and malpascp are all possibilities.

[House]

Gamma, props for Huntress are all yours when she flips red bro.

Sorry it took so long to come around.

[House]

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

My current thinking on this question:

If Huntress flips red (as expected) then Gerry will be my top remaining scumread.

If Huntress flips green (the unexpected outcome) then I will need to re-evaluate all my reads in the light of whoever gets nightkilled. In this situation, Gamma, House, and malpascp are all possibilities.

We gonna 1v1 if she actually flips town (as if).

[CCC]

gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.

Although if they'll lynch

me

, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.

Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?

No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.

...oh, right, if Town lynches you

first

, then we'd presumably lynch Huntress/Gerry on the following days. (In my eyes, though, Manuel is still Townier than you are; if I ignore myself, you're only the second-Towniest player in the game)

[House]

gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.

Although if they'll lynch

me

, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.

Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?

No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.

...oh, right, if Town lynches you

first

, then we'd presumably lynch Huntress/Gerry on the following days. (In my eyes, though, Manuel is still Townier than you are; if I ignore myself, you're only the second-Towniest player in the game)

Manuel is never getting lynched. He's scum!confirmed town lol.

[CCC]

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

One is still Gamma because he is sheeping you hard right now without thinking about the case you present or asking you any questions about it.
He is just following you blindly and that he wanted to vote Huntress over Gerry is also one of the reasons why i dont want to lynch her today.

Gamma voted in post 1822. House voted for Huntress in post 1845, twenty-six hours later. Gamma is not following House onto this wagon.

[CCC]

Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?

My current thinking on this question:

If Huntress flips red (as expected) then Gerry will be my top remaining scumread.

If Huntress flips green (the unexpected outcome) then I will need to re-evaluate all my reads in the light of whoever gets nightkilled. In this situation, Gamma, House, and malpascp are all possibilities.

We gonna 1v1 if she actually flips town (as if).

Yeah, that's very much the low-probability outcome at this point.

gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.

Although if they'll lynch

me

, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.

Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?

No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.

...oh, right, if Town lynches you

first

, then we'd presumably lynch Huntress/Gerry on the following days. (In my eyes, though, Manuel is still Townier than you are; if I ignore myself, you're only the second-Towniest player in the game)

Manuel is never getting lynched. He's scum!confirmed town lol.

That's why he's the Towniest player in this game, yes.

[CCC]

Something just occurred to me. Huntress is currently voting House on the basis that she doesn't believe there are four PRs, right? And she claims to have one of those PRs, while the other two (Square and Victor) are mod-confirmed and certain.

If Huntress is telling the truth, then, she knew about the four PRs since the start of the day.

So, question for Huntress - why didn't you vote House from the

start

of today? Why the wait until you were forced to claim?

[House]

^ Smart town is smart. ^

[gerryoat]

VOTE: House

Don't see the point of there being a BP and a BG. I think House is fake in the two.

Why do you say

House

is the fake one?

Because I think him and Gamma are the team. His refusal to admit Gamma's scumminess is something I don't think he'd do as town.

[gerryoat]

He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.

If he was scum he could have easily justified hammering Huntress and had my support tomorrow if he left me alive.

Look at Gerry's play dude. He DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME UNTIL I DERAILED THE GAMMA WAGON AND STARTED PUSHING HUNTRESS.

His scumclaiming is all over the place, and the association with Huntress is so glaringly obvious it hurts.

BECAUSE GAMMA IS OBVIOUS MAFIA. IF YOU CANT REALIZE THIS THEN YOU HAVE TO BE MAFIA, YOU CANNOT BE THIS BAD AS TO TOWNREAD HIM

[gerryoat]

Manuel is my only TR. I think CCC is being dumb town for not realizing that it was optimal for house to bus eager and take control of the town. He also made 0 sense as to why he would be on no one as BG. IF you line all these things up, you can see that House is mafia. Gamma being the obvious partner.

[gerryoat]

What are votes at right now, btw?

Also Huntress can you out your reads please? Do you also think House and Gamma? Or are you still fixated on House and CCC. Personally I think CCC is town and being wrong here.