Newbie 1725: Innocents, Inc. [Game Over!]
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Loopdan Mafia Scum
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serrapaladin Jack of All Trades
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I would probably hammer anyone who hasn't claimed a PR D1 to avoid a no-lynch.
Flipped newb!scum generally makes it easier to identify scumbuddies. If town!thor believes you're scum, then parking his vote on you and making that case is surely pro-town play? I would like him to be more active around deadline, but VLAs are legit.
I think we should just go with Blank.Wandering but not lost-
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Loopdan Mafia Scum
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Why is it worrying? He isn't here.In post 901, Creature wrote:Yeah, Blank not voting his counterwagon is worrying.-
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serrapaladin Jack of All Trades
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?In post 904, Loopdan wrote:Then you'll probably need to convince shadow of that.Wandering but not lost-
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Harkonnen97 Mafia Scum
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I was never on Blank's wagon in the first place. I jumped off Paladin's wagon because
youjumped off of it and made it hard/nearly impossible to lynch him today.-
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Loopdan Mafia Scum
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In post 907, serrapaladin wrote:
?In post 904, Loopdan wrote:Then you'll probably need to convince shadow of that.In post 900, Loopdan wrote:Town!Blank votes Thor here to save his hide. scum!Blank stalls and hopes for no-lynch if Thor is his scum-buddy, but goes for the lynch if Thor is town.
@BlankFace-- You know you have to vote Thor, right?
And Thor pretty much has to vote Blank to set-up Shadow for the decision on who to hammer.-
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In post 901, Creature wrote:Yeah, Blank not voting his counterwagon is worrying.
Blank having real life responsibilities means he isn't going to be here every minute of the day. Driving home right now. Just tired of this "blank is lurking" bs.
For future reference, if I'm working, I either get a 15 minute window or a 45 minute window to check my phone. You shouldn't expect me post anything then.
I'll read things over when I get settled at home.
Also Loop. I do not have to vote for and huge fuckingHoSat you for the context of that post.
That post alone makes me skeptical of a Thor wagon, looking at it from scum!Loop's PoV.-
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Well yeah, you don'tIn post 910, BlankFace wrote:In post 901, Creature wrote:Yeah, Blank not voting his counterwagon is worrying.
Blank having real life responsibilities means he isn't going to be here every minute of the day. Driving home right now. Just tired of this "blank is lurking" bs.
For future reference, if I'm working, I either get a 15 minute window or a 45 minute window to check my phone. You shouldn't expect me post anything then.
I'll read things over when I get settled at home.
Also Loop. I do not have to vote for and huge fuckingHoSat you for the context of that post.
That post alone makes me skeptical of a Thor wagon, looking at it from scum!Loop's PoV.have tovote Thor, but why would town!Blank allow himself to be lynched over another player?
I'm ok with this setup. Thor and Blank are both acceptable lynches for me (although I'd prefer Thor), and I like the idea of shadow having to choose who between them to hammer. I'm not sure on his slot, so the choice and flip helps sort there, too.-
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@Blank-- Which part of the above do you disagree with?In post 900, Loopdan wrote:Town!Blank votes Thor here to save his hide. scum!Blank stalls and hopes for no-lynch if Thor is his scum-buddy, but goes for the lynch if Thor is town.-
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This.In post 914, Loopdan wrote:He doesn't look like an experienced town IC trying to solve the game.Sigh-
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Why would scum!Blank allow himself to be lynched when his lynch could make a huge impact?In post 912, Loopdan wrote:but why would town!Blank allow himself to be lynched over another player?Sigh-
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serrapaladin Jack of All Trades
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Why doesn't the association tell work the other way?In post 917, serrapaladin wrote:Thor/Blank is a possibility to consider, but the association tell only really works with a Blank scum flip.-
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@serrapal-- You only answered the last question above. What about the others?In post 899, Loopdan wrote:
"Because of who he is"? What does this mean? I know he is an active experienced player. Is there more to it than that?In post 893, serrapaladin wrote: I don't really want to explain this any more. Thor isn't someone I scumread, and because of who he is, this makes me more opposed to lynching him than others.
What do you make of Thor parking his vote on me the entire game and failing to lead town in scum-hunting? I'm genuinely interested in hearing an explanation of how his actions have been pro-town.
Also, would you hammer Thor at deadline to avoid a no-lynch?-
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serrapaladin Jack of All Trades
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If Blank is scum, not jumping on the wagon makes most sense with scum!thor. On the other hand, town!Blank may have other reasons for not immediately jumping the wagon, such as thinking thor is not necessarily scum, which scum!Blank isn't burdened by. Unfortunately there's the alternate interpretation of scum!Blank not wanting to seem scummy by immediately jumping on the next counter-wagon, which can't really be discerned any more at this point. Still, if Blank flips scum, I would be more happy to consider a thor lynch tomorrow.Wandering but not lost-
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Describe the case on him.In post 832, Harkonnen97 wrote:@Missy and Thor, why do you two disagree with a Paladin lynch?
I don't think one exists.
I would consider that a reasonable compromise - you like it, Loop hasn't touched it with a 10 foot pole. It could provide some info.In post 820, Creature wrote:
What about the BlankFace wagon?In post 813, Thor665 wrote:I actively dislike the serrapaladin wagon.
You mean like Creature?In post 815, Loopdan wrote:
Then push something other than Loopdan.In post 813, Thor665 wrote:I actively dislike the serrapaladin wagon.
Also Loopdan?
Here;s a bit of advice - if you're town, push your scum reads. Don't random push emptiness.
Depends on your purpose for declaring the hammer intent - personally I'd maybe give them 12-24 hours after their initial non-claim post.In post 850, MissTerry wrote:Question,
If someone says their intent to hammer and the person at L-1 doesn't give a claim, can you still lynch them and how long should you wait before hammering?
Not much point to not hammering them if they don't claim if you're otherwise bought into the wagon.
Says my two top scumreads...In post 915, Creature wrote:
This.In post 914, Loopdan wrote:He doesn't look like an experienced town IC trying to solve the game.
Like, basically you're both being strategic/salty because I scumread you, and trying to act like I've failed to advance cases - yet oddly neither can even apparently see the case I made on the other.
Since I'm not going to be around again prior to deadline;
Vote: Blank
Do as you shall.
I will point out that there isn't actually a case on me besides Creature and Loop's harping about how I need to "do more" somehow - while apparently not finding multiple reads, multiple town and scum cases, and commenting on basically everything in the game as "enough" I suppose.
It's BS - but I've been lynched over it before, and probably will be lynched over it again - I will mock you in post game if it happens this time too.-
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serrapaladin Jack of All Trades
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In post 914, Loopdan wrote:Town!Blank, I apologize if you feel backed into a corner. I'm sorry Creature thinks you are lurking when you are simply gainfully employed. But Thor has not helped town figure out this game at all. He doesn't look like an experienced town IC trying to solve the game.
Don't aologize. I'm not backed into a corner.In post 913, Loopdan wrote:
@Blank-- Which part of the above do you disagree with?In post 900, Loopdan wrote:Town!Blank votes Thor here to save his hide. scum!Blank stalls and hopes for no-lynch if Thor is his scum-buddy, but goes for the lynch if Thor is town.
The part that deals in absolutes. The part that paints me like shit no matter what I do. You are setting up your next mislynch as scum. Here's what you laid out:
1. I vote Thor, out of self preservation. Easy to see scum motivation for me there after the fact.
2. I, as scum "stall" and hope for a no lynch? [like what in the actual fuck? In what world is a NL EVER going to happen first of all, second of all how does a NL benefit me as scum? Prolonging the game does not help scum. That's more days to trying to fly under the radar.
3. I, as scum, vote Thor to for the mislynch.
Of those three scenarios, all three paint me as scum in the long run. All three are easy setups to push me tomorrow should Thor be lynched today and he flips town. That is the issue that I have with that post.
I also don't like being told what to do. Just look at my interactions with/ignoring Shadow Step.-
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