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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 646, Loopdan wrote:
In post 644, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 630, Loopdan wrote:
What is the purpose of leaving this here? It's a game where Thor is scum.
Mostly just because it's my most recent game with Thor. I'm not really getting the same vibe from thor here, though.
Tell me more.
If you have the time, compare thor/my interaction around day 3 with how he's interacting with you here.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:34 am

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Besides scumreading Missy, do you have other reads Paladin?
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:55 am

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In post 640, Creature wrote:
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Are you town reading lucca261/serrapaladin (not considering relations)?
Not enough info to really make a call there in my opinion. If you obligated me to, I'd say town, but wouldn't want to have to justify the read.

You didn't answer my question about Lucca's meta - intentional dodge or did you just forget/miss it?
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:56 am

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In post 627, Loopdan wrote:So you have no defense against my allegation that you've misconstrued my posts on this topic?
Other than the one I stated - no.
Because there isn't any misrepping.
In post 627, Loopdan wrote:I already answered your attempt to throw this back at me in post 393. I'm not writing a wall to defend the diversity of my reads on you. Anybody following the game can see I have been open to the possibility of town!Thor. I don't think the same can be said for your consideration of town!Loopdan. You can try another angle of attack on 390, but ultimately that's what this comes down to.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:23 am

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In post 651, Harkonnen97 wrote:Besides scumreading Missy, do you have other reads Paladin?
Yes.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:32 am

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In post 654, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 651, Harkonnen97 wrote:Besides scumreading Missy, do you have other reads Paladin?
Yes.
And those would be?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:10 am

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Pretty sure you can infer my position on about half the game if you give it a try. Those that I haven't mentioned yet are less interesting to me atm.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:21 am

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I don't know if everyone is like you in non-newbie games Paladin, and if I am being too pushy with asking people to lay out their reads, but I don't like your latest post. What's the problem with showing what's your stance on everything?

I understood that you are townreading Loop, not scumreading Thor and scumreading Missy. Did I miss anything?
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:32 am

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I get that, and people have different opinions on how complete to be about given information. Mine is that if everyone gives a full ranking in the early game, scum know exactly whom to kill, and generally how to position themselves relative to others. I don't think PoE on townreads works well early in the game.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:00 am

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What you are saying makes sense. But I am paranoid about something else - how would the two scumpartners read each other early on? Townreading and scumreading themselves both carry risks, while nullreading each other - or even better - not reading each other at all is really safe. It doesn't let us make any associations when one of them flips. I hope that you are understanding my reasoning for suspecting Shadow because of that. And for the exact same reason, I am also suspecting you.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:01 am

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In post 642, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 578, Harkonnen97 wrote:If there aren't enough supporters for a Shadow lynch I'm moving to Thor.
I much prefer Shadow to Thor, but I'm still hoping for a LoopDan.
In post 584, Loopdan wrote:Just to be clear on my position: Lucca flaking out is not what I find scummy. What I found scummy were his early interactions in the part of the game when he was actively posting that looks different from his other (town) game, where he was engaged and analytical.
Which of his 10 posts were disengaged and lacking analysis up until the Sunday where he stopped and later got replaced for inactivity?
In post 587, Creature wrote:And then Loopdan came with meta.
Serious question: You can make a meta-case based on one other game?
Dafuq what ?
When did you start scum reading me ?

Penguin and MT scum team.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:03 am

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In post 659, Harkonnen97 wrote:What you are saying makes sense. But I am paranoid about something else - how would the two scumpartners read each other early on? Townreading and scumreading themselves both carry risks, while nullreading each other - or even better - not reading each other at all is really safe. It doesn't let us make any associations when one of them flips. I hope that you are understanding my reasoning for suspecting Shadow because of that. And for the exact same reason, I am also suspecting you.
Let me tell you something, this game doesn't revolve around you.
You don't tell us what optimal town play is.
You're a noob, behave like one xD
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:05 am

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In post 655, BlankFace wrote:
In post 654, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 651, Harkonnen97 wrote:Besides scumreading Missy, do you have other reads Paladin?
Yes.
And those would be?
Can you be useful and vote MT ffs
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:11 am

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In post 660, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 642, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 578, Harkonnen97 wrote:If there aren't enough supporters for a Shadow lynch I'm moving to Thor.
I much prefer Shadow to Thor, but I'm still hoping for a LoopDan.
In post 584, Loopdan wrote:Just to be clear on my position: Lucca flaking out is not what I find scummy. What I found scummy were his early interactions in the part of the game when he was actively posting that looks different from his other (town) game, where he was engaged and analytical.
Which of his 10 posts were disengaged and lacking analysis up until the Sunday where he stopped and later got replaced for inactivity?
In post 587, Creature wrote:And then Loopdan came with meta.
Serious question: You can make a meta-case based on one other game?
Dafuq what ?
When did you start scum reading me ?

Penguin and MT scum team.
I don't...you're null to me right now, but I much prefer you to Thor. That's exactly what I said. And, I much prefer LoopDan over you, hence why my vote is still on him.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:16 am

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No, it seems you would rather keep Loop alive for future mislynches and lynch me today.

If you think Loop is scum why aren't you convincing others to vote for him?

And what are your thoughts on my case on MT?
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:29 am

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Don't ignore my questions Penguin.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:30 am

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You really don't have opinion on the me vs Thor and serra?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:32 am

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@ Serrapaladin, if you find MT scummy, why aren't you voting them?
It's not long before deadline and you NEED TO VOTE MT NOW.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:33 am

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In post 666, Creature wrote:You really don't have opinion on the me vs Thor and serra?
You and Thor can be t v t.
I'm null on paladin for now.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:36 am

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Penguin has been totally coasting in this game without any pressure whatsoever.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:38 am

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In post 664, Shadow_step wrote:No, it seems you would rather keep Loop alive for future mislynches and lynch me today.
That really doesn't make sense...but ok.
In post 664, Shadow_step wrote:And what are your thoughts on my case on MT?
I think the only truly valid point was 2. in post http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8129755. The other three are believably newbtown behaviors from my pov. Your points after that are just hard tunneling and stating people need to vote MT. So...yeah. She's a lean town for me, but not a strong one.

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Guess you're going to tunnel me next.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:43 am

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Oh ffs, are you seriously going to call every scummy thing newb town then we can make no fucking case on anyone.

Why isn't loop newb town then? Why is he scum ?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:48 am

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lol
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:48 am

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serrapaladin + Thor665, with PenguinPower as a substitute?
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:49 am

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Town: BlackFace, Harkoonnen97, Loodan, MissTerry
Null/town: Shadow_step
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Scumleans: serrapaladin, Thor665
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