Mini 521 (SMSM, Ended)

[mith]

Vote Count:

6 to lynch.

Max: 3 (Adele, Fiasco, Xdaamno)
Sammich: 2 (ryan, SomeStrangeSimenon)
Fiasco: 1 (Max)
kabenon007: 1 (WaterboyWaldo)
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 (Thorned Rose)
WaterboyWaldo: 1 (kabenon007)

[Max]

For people who do not understand semi-random votes heres a small explanation, Firstly you use a reason that is not true for example claiming that they told you they were scum.

It was a random vote,

Definition of Random:

A process where the outcome is not decided by normal decisions and is instead, for example, by the roll of a dice. See Chance

[Fiasco]

That covers the "so what" question, but I'm more interested in the "how so" question: what made you think I caused the reroll?

[ryan]

It's rly awkward that ryan voted me without any explanation.

Didn't anyone notice that?

Did anyone notice it was the first day and my vote was a random one for discussion and THANK YOU for starting a little discussion about you. Why so jumpy about one vote?

[WaterboyWaldo]

A little defensive, are we?

[ryan]

A little defensive, are we?

Huh?

[Fiasco]

The lady doth protest too much / too little / too suspiciously close to the expected amount, methinks!

Anyway,

DAYKILL: POOKY

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh shit

i should read the last page first when i'm rereading.

aw dangit.

[Fiasco]

So were you scum?

[Fiasco]

If you were town, don't tell us your role, though.

[Adele]

For people who do not understand semi-random votes heres a small explanation, Firstly you use a reason that is not true for example claiming that they told you they were scum.

It was a random vote,

Definition of Random:

A process where the outcome is not decided by normal decisions and is instead, for example, by the roll of a dice. See Chance

But why share that info anyway? When it might somehow damage the town, discretion being the better part of valour and all?

and: for those of you who don't realise it, when you preface a joke with "oh guys here's a joke:", it's just a teeny bit

less funny

. To the point of being obnoxious. That's why waterboywaldo didn't say in the post when he was kidding around that he was just kidding around. Which makes this especially ironic:

Adele is confusing me.

when you vote your suspicions are right there for everyone to see, and that might bite you in the ass later when you contradict yourself out of convenience.

I don't have a problem with her FOSing somebody instead of voting them, but this is a weak argument. She's worried that her suspicions are there for everyone to see? That's what happens when you FOS somebody too. Heck, just stating your suspicions allows people to see them. This is a poor explanation for her lack of vote.

[Sammich]

Did anyone notice it was the first day and my vote was a random one for discussion and THANK YOU for starting a little discussion about you. Why so jumpy about one vote?

THEN SAY IT WAS A RANDOM VOTE.
ASDF;

[ryan]

Did anyone notice it was the first day and my vote was a random one for discussion and THANK YOU for starting a little discussion about you. Why so jumpy about one vote?

THEN SAY IT WAS A RANDOM VOTE.
ASDF;

Did I miss the portion of the program that stated this was a "GAME?" Settle down there tex

[WaterboyWaldo]

[Fiasco]

Ryan, Sammich, do you two have opinions on anything other than each other?

That's why waterboywaldo didn't say in the post when he was kidding around that he was just kidding around.

That's not the point; the point is he could have said it when people called him on the statement.

Everyone, do you think Adele's "let's all say whether we have the same role" suggestion was scummy?

[WaterboyWaldo]

the point is he could have said it when people called him on the statement.

And I did.

Everyone, do you think Adele's "let's all say whether we have the same role" suggestion was scummy?

Uh, I must have been asleep when she proposed that.

[Adele]

Everyone, do you think Adele's "let's all say whether we have the same role" suggestion was scummy?

...

this

one?

Hmm. An idea occurs, a precipitate to a mass roleclaim down the line; if everyone stated now whether their role is the same as first time around. May be useful for catching folk in lies down the line... may be unutterably stupid. Thoughts?

That one? Where I state it's an IDEA, that it might be

unutterably stupid

and ask someone smarter than I to say if it is?

Yes. You are right. We must stamp out this dangerous trend towards

discussion

.

FOS: Fiasco[/i] for, I think, misrepresenting me.

[Fiasco]

Boo hoo. "Suggestion" is not that different from "idea". I didn't even say it was scummy, just asked other people. Fact is that you proposed something that would have outed most vanillas in the game even if it didn't seem that way at first. If one or two people followed it because they couldn't see the harm, that would still have been damaging.

[Fiasco]

Or actually only about half of all vanillas, depending on setup. But still.

[WaterboyWaldo]

Hmmn...

Fiasco waited awhile to bring Adele's statement up. Possibly looking for ways to incriminate her, or maybe, upon her defense of me, Fiasco backtracked and looked for ties and found that proposal instead. I'll keep that in mind...

When Adele asked for comments on her idea, Fiasco said,

'Everyone, do you think Adele's "let's all say whether we have the same role" suggestion was scummy?'

. (BTW, points against Adele here for attempting to benefit from the mod's mistake. While this isn't necessarily scummy, it is, in my opinion, poor sportsmanship). More importantly, I noticed that Fiasco doesn't give his opinion on the idea, but asks everyone else first. It would have been less suspicious if he had said

"Does anybody ELSE think Adele's suggestion was scummy?"

, but it seems that he was leading everybody else into it and waiting for anybody else to start gunning for Adele.

While Adele may be reacting a bit overdefensively, I think she has the right to be suspicious of Fiasco. Not necessarily for misrepresentation, but rather for trying to bring suspicion onto Adele without actually accusing her of anything.

EDIT BEFORE POST:
Sure enough, Fiasco has proved my point by stating that "he didn't even say it was scummy, just asked other people". Compound this with the face that he obviously DOES think it was scummy, as he adds "Fact is that you proposed something that would have outed most vanillas in the game even if it didn't seem that way at first."

[Fiasco]

How shocking, I referred to something that happened

earlier in the game

.

I think it was a bad plan, but I'm unsure whether bringing it up was scummy. That was one of the reasons I wanted everyone's thoughts. The other was what it might say about

them

.

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

Once again, Simenon. It signed up as a dual for a reason guys- I really can't handle this game alone. :/

Fiasco's jumping around pooky I don't like; I read it as kind of awkward here.

WWW is being generally distracting.

[Fiasco]

We should aim to have someone at Claim Or Die by Wednesday, I think.

We are not making progress.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Quite Correct.
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DAYKILL: FIASCO

[Fiasco]

UNDAYKILL: POOKY

unvote, vote Pooky